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Quote from: CLS63 on September 30, 2024, 04:05:27 PM

It really makes me uncomfortable that Fenerbahçe are performing this badly. We are still able to win somehow but we all remember how we lost in the derby match against Galatasaray as well. Sad

This can't go on forever like this. I also don't like Szymanski at all this season. He is the complete opposite of his last season performance. While he is out of form, I also don't understand why Mourinho doesn't cut him from the starting eleven. He doesn't deserve it.

He had shown a similar performance to Pelkas in previous years and was removed from the team. If a transfer is made in place of Szymanski, he too could be removed from the team. Fenerbahçe does not have a physicality that suits its structure. A player who is physically weak loses the ball quickly in one-on-one duels. This leaves Fenerbahçe vulnerable to counterattacks. That is why I think a transfer to that area is necessary. He is playing particularly badly this year, and he was good again last year but this year, no.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 30, 2024, 03:02:10 PM

I really have not much to say about that unbearable draw against Kasımpaşa. Sad

Just how can you screw up that much? Even though while you were 3-0 ahead first... Okan Buruk was responsible for it. If he was better with the substitutions then we wouldn't lose 2 points in a silly way. We are still the leader though but we have lost a quite nice point advantage.

Fenerbahçe didn't look good despite winning by 2-0. If they don't improve this game I don't see them in the title race until the end.

And lastly, Beşiktaş are really impressive. I watched the game today and especially Immobile had a great day. Besides Gedson is also incredible thanks to van Bronckhorst.

Yeah I think okan buruk was the one responsible for losing 2 point at home against kasimpasa, I personally think he should have stick the formation he has been using since the beginning of season, when I saw Victor Osimehn and Icardi Starting at the same time I knew there was going to be a problem, not because they can't play together but they won't have a powerful substitute and that was exactly what happened, immediately after the first half Osimehn was substituted and for sure there was relief in the kasimpasa defense because the pressing was not there anymore, they played comfortably from the back and that was how there where able to get 3 goals in the second half.

I'm not saying Icardi and Osimehn can't play together but even if you play them together you don't need to sub any of them so early because with the two of them on the pitch the opposition defense will be restless and that will put Galatasary in control just the way it happened in the match against kasimpasa in the first half. I hope okan buruk have take note of this mistake and let hope It doesn't happen again.

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It really makes me uncomfortable that Fenerbahçe are performing this badly. We are still able to win somehow but we all remember how we lost in the derby match against Galatasaray as well. Sad

This can't go on forever like this. I also don't like Szymanski at all this season. He is the complete opposite of his last season performance. While he is out of form, I also don't understand why Mourinho doesn't cut him from the starting eleven. He doesn't deserve it.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on September 30, 2024, 03:02:10 PM

I really have not much to say about that unbearable draw against Kasımpaşa. Sad

Just how can you screw up that much? Even though while you were 3-0 ahead first... Okan Buruk was responsible for it. If he was better with the substitutions then we wouldn't lose 2 points in a silly way. We are still the leader though but we have lost a quite nice point advantage.

Kasımpaşa kept fighting even when it looked like they had already lost the game. Coach Sami Uğurlu encouraged his boys to keep attacking. I can't categorically state the substitute that led to the disorganization of Fenerbahce. Victor Osimhen was removed because of a suspected injury, and I assume that it would have been different if he had played till the end of the match. Osimhen is an aggressive player who puts defenders under pressure. Kasımpaşa wouldn't have attacked the host so much if the Nigerian was around.

Okan Buruk has been impressive since last season. A single loss shouldn't be the basis to attack him. After all, even the celebrated Carlo Ancelotti gave out a three-goal lead in a Champions League finals. Ancelotti's AC Milan was beaten by Liverpool after a three-goal lead..

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on September 30, 2024, 06:34:04 AM

Szymanski played well at the beginning of last season. But after that he was never the same again. I don't think he has the skills to be the main character. Fenerbahçe fans expect goals and assists from him every game. But he is not the main character. There are players with good defensive qualities in Fenerbahçe's midfield. Ismail, Fred and Amrabat have very good defensive qualities. But I can't say the same for the players with good creative qualities. In recent years in Fenerbahçe we have seen mediocre players like Szymanski, Zahjc and Pelkas. Maybe Kostic will solve this problem.

Also it's hard to shine when there are other players who are much better. Fred is much better, Amrabat is much better, Maximin is a showman, and Tadic may look worse now, but normally he is a great player as we all know, also there is Dezko up front, with now their new transfer, all of which look much better than Szymanski, and that would cause some issues for a player to do what they want.

When you have that many great players around you, then you pass, and they do something with the game, that is why it's hard for many young players to show themselves, and only a very few superstar potential ones end up playing better. This will be very hard for him to be any good, it will be very hard for him and will not help him grow at all. I think he should stay happy the way he is, sure missing that goal was terrible but not like he would miss it normally, that was unlucky and I think it will do fine later on and just keep trying to do what he should be doing within the system.

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I really have not much to say about that unbearable draw against Kasımpaşa. Sad

Just how can you screw up that much? Even though while you were 3-0 ahead first... Okan Buruk was responsible for it. If he was better with the substitutions then we wouldn't lose 2 points in a silly way. We are still the leader though but we have lost a quite nice point advantage.

Fenerbahçe didn't look good despite winning by 2-0. If they don't improve this game I don't see them in the title race until the end.

And lastly, Beşiktaş are really impressive. I watched the game today and especially Immobile had a great day. Besides Gedson is also incredible thanks to van Bronckhorst.

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I think this season besiktas is one of the most underrated team in the Turkish league, people are barely giving them attention but to be honest they are in a very good foam. They beat keyserispor today 3-0 and they are tied with Jose morinho's fenerbahce with the same point and with one match less and 3 point behind Galatasary and with a match in hand. Besiktas are playing a good football not just winning but their kind of play is full of theat and can cause you so much problems, well I really can't wait to see them play against their fellow title contenders.

The first half ended in a goalsess draw and I was already thinking besiktas is going to drop point but the second half was full of constant attack and they ended up scoring three goals in the second half, take it or leave it besiktas are one of the most dangerous team in the Turkish league right now and they are up for challenging for this title.

It good to see the Turkish league been challenging this season, it been long the league have been this tight and I can say the sesosn is going to be a long and turf season.

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Quote from: Salahmu on September 29, 2024, 07:02:29 AM

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We should have won the match in which Osimhen scored his first goal. Wow, Kasımpaşa was such a tough team, they pushed hard. I have to give them credit, they fought well. Our unbeaten streak has ended. Look at the team that ended it, Kasımpaşa. Kasımpaşa did what Fenerbahçe couldn't do this week. Anyway, this point loss won't affect Galatasaray much.

This performance of Kasımpaşa we had expected it from the match between Fenerbahçe against Galatasaray but they could not even perform anything compare to Kasımpaşa, so actually I saw how happy Kasımpaşa fans was yesterday because before the match based on the previous results of Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe they were thinking that conceiving 2:0 at the end of the match will be very easy but look how the match resulted.

It was a disappointing match for Galatasaray because they were leading with 3:0 on the first half so they shouldn't have stood that low in letting Kasımpaşa to equalise the whole goals, however Galatasaray is very lucky that the draw did not affect them in anyway on the table because of the level of point they currently have against others.

Yes, that's what I wanted to say, Galatasaray is in a good place in the scoreboard. Although the Kasımpaşa match was disappointing, there's nothing to be done. I think Galatasaray players didn't expect Kasımpaşa to make such a comeback after they had gained the upper hand, so they were playing comfortably and that's what happened.

It's what it is. Now it's time to concentrate on the upcoming matches, we need to put the negativities aside because that match is over now.

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Yesterday in the Turkish Super Lig game between Antalyaspor vs Fenerbahce, Jose Mourinho was shown a yellow card after he dropped a laptop in front of the match camera to show that there was a mistake by the match officials. The Portuguese manager is known to be dramatic on the touchline and always wants to make headlines and I think he's brought his antics to the Turkish Super Lig. Was it necessary for the match referee to show him a yellow card for that act or not I want to hear from y'all.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 29, 2024, 04:50:45 PM

There is an absolute need for 3 points against Kayserispor. There may be rotation and so on, but this shouldn't lead to a loss of points. They need to forget the defeat against Ajax. There was both a defeat and a bad game. These fans can accept defeat but not a bad game with no spirit.
Turkish players need to take some responsibility now. Salih, Mustafa, Semih should contribute to the score. If everything depends on Gedson, Immobile and Silva, there will be no success. Especially defensive players should also contribute on offense. I don't think Kayserispor will close down too much, Beşiktaş will find the scoring positions they want. They should make good use of them and come back from this away match with 3 points.

I am sure we will see the effects of the Ajax match. The players will play more timidly than usual, I do not think we will watch a Beşiktaş that can attack very well.
Kayserispor is one of the worst teams in the league. Beşiktaş needs to start the match quickly and get a multi-goal victory. If they can do this, they will continue to be in a good position in the league and play better in the next European match

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 30, 2024, 06:11:58 AM

Szymanski was horrible in this game. He couldn't score even while the goal was wide open. Actually this isn't his first time playing this badly either.

https://www.flashscore.com/player/szymanski-sebastian/QFdaT1Qr/

Compared to his previous season performance, he has had near zero contribution so far. But Mourinho insists on having him in the starting lineup. I don't understand the reason why. Huh

He can actually try Tadic as trequartista instead of Szymanski for a couple of times to see the difference. I think a start like this can help Fenerbahçe improve their goal productivity more.

Szymanski played well at the beginning of last season. But after that he was never the same again. I don't think he has the skills to be the main character. Fenerbahçe fans expect goals and assists from him every game. But he is not the main character. There are players with good defensive qualities in Fenerbahçe's midfield. Ismail, Fred and Amrabat have very good defensive qualities. But I can't say the same for the players with good creative qualities. In recent years in Fenerbahçe we have seen mediocre players like Szymanski, Zahjc and Pelkas. Maybe Kostic will solve this problem.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 29, 2024, 04:50:45 PM

There is an absolute need for 3 points against Kayserispor. There may be rotation and so on, but this shouldn't lead to a loss of points. They need to forget the defeat against Ajax. There was both a defeat and a bad game. These fans can accept defeat but not a bad game with no spirit.
Turkish players need to take some responsibility now. Salih, Mustafa, Semih should contribute to the score. If everything depends on Gedson, Immobile and Silva, there will be no success. Especially defensive players should also contribute on offense. I don't think Kayserispor will close down too much, Beşiktaş will find the scoring positions they want. They should make good use of them and come back from this away match with 3 points.

I have research this team and found it useless to predict and bet on it. Because after watching the matches played by this team recently, it was found that in the first 10 matches, there is not a single match in which they got a win. Every match is either a draw or a loss. And in this match too they were defeat by 3 goals and while none of their players have scored a goal. How can you call the game good when you are not win any matches or even if you win some matches then it is still there. I was not inspired by his hard work.
Rather, they should think that we are play in a league and get it to win, but they don't think or care. If none of the players will work hard then no one will succeed. If even a couple of players play well, it creates some problems in the game and goals are scored as soon as they get the chance. But the goal is to work hard and try to win the match. If every match is to lose and draw, then their aim is neither to win nor to lose. If they do, it's a good chance but let see how long they improve themselves.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 30, 2024, 06:11:58 AM

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Today Fenerbahçe's game was unsatisfying, but they got the 3 points and that's the important thing. As the European cups continue we see rotations. Fenerbahçe is taking advantage of their large squad. After Fred came on in the second half, Fenerbahçe were more comfortable on offense. He also made the assist. Tadic's goal came in the 63rd minute. Until that moment Fenerbahçe struggled. Antalyaspor were ready for a draw, but they couldn't do anything when they were down. Offensively, Antalyaspor is as different from last season as summer and winter. They have no offense this season. Without players like Jehezkel and Buksa, Antalyaspor's offense came to a standstill. They can't get many points with this game.

Szymanski was horrible in this game. He couldn't score even while the goal was wide open. Actually this isn't his first time playing this badly either.

https://www.flashscore.com/player/szymanski-sebastian/QFdaT1Qr/

Compared to his previous season performance, he has had near zero contribution so far. But Mourinho insists on having him in the starting lineup. I don't understand the reason why. Huh

He can actually try Tadic as trequartista instead of Szymanski for a couple of times to see the difference. I think a start like this can help Fenerbahçe improve their goal productivity more.

Szymanski is quite stagnant compared to last year. Maybe Mourinho is planning to sell him by excluding him from the team. Fenerbahçe needs a player in his position. Because he is not contributing enough to Fenerbahçe. He is playing very mediocre this year. He is missing too many opportunities and the Polish player is helping a lot from his performance last year. Last year all Fenerbahçe fans loved his game but this year he is being criticized a lot.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 29, 2024, 01:15:26 PM

Today Fenerbahçe's game was unsatisfying, but they got the 3 points and that's the important thing. As the European cups continue we see rotations. Fenerbahçe is taking advantage of their large squad. After Fred came on in the second half, Fenerbahçe were more comfortable on offense. He also made the assist. Tadic's goal came in the 63rd minute. Until that moment Fenerbahçe struggled. Antalyaspor were ready for a draw, but they couldn't do anything when they were down. Offensively, Antalyaspor is as different from last season as summer and winter. They have no offense this season. Without players like Jehezkel and Buksa, Antalyaspor's offense came to a standstill. They can't get many points with this game.

Szymanski was horrible in this game. He couldn't score even while the goal was wide open. Actually this isn't his first time playing this badly either.

https://www.flashscore.com/player/szymanski-sebastian/QFdaT1Qr/

Compared to his previous season performance, he has had near zero contribution so far. But Mourinho insists on having him in the starting lineup. I don't understand the reason why. Huh

He can actually try Tadic as trequartista instead of Szymanski for a couple of times to see the difference. I think a start like this can help Fenerbahçe improve their goal productivity more.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on September 29, 2024, 09:55:52 AM

Here I will blame completely coach Buruk because they needed to be stick with their best combination and strategy which they were having in first half, but they completely change this and allow Kasimpasa for having more aggressive which they have done and score two goals which give them 1 important point as well fans were delighted with brace from Victor Osimhen, but this draw gives them big shock then having first goals from the Osimhen.

We shouldn't be in a hurry to lodge a blame on the coach just yet without having to know what transpired behind the dressing room after they were leading 3:1 in the first 45 minutes. According to Victor Osimhen (speaking to the press) he was feeling some discomfort with his body system (probably from injury) which he had to disclose to the coach. So I believe that was what led to the changes in the second 45 minutes which left Osimhen on the bench reducing Galatasaray's attacking pressure which Kasımpasa had to leverage on to get a comeback.

It was just a catastrophic day for the Turkish giant Galatasaray. Every good coach will want to save his best player from sustaining a severe injury not to affect their chances in the title race, and that's what Buruk did. At least it's just their 7th game of the season with many more games ahead. Moreover, Galatasaray still hold their top position in the Turkish league table.

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Quote from: Slow death on September 28, 2024, 05:07:43 PM

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This was a bet that on paper I was seeing as a very easy win. I will not bet on Galatasaray for a while. If Fenerbahce wins in the next game, then they will reduce the points they have compared to Galatasaray, they will be only 3 points behind Galatasaray

Galatasaray did indeed rain down on Kasımpasa with barrage of attacks in the first half and gave result of 3 goal to be able to excel in this match, but after that there were some mistakes that occurred so that Kasimpasa had the opportunity to be able to catch up on the goal deficit and the saddest thing was they got the opportunity for penalty kick.
For the next match Galatasaray will play in the Europa League against Rigas FS and I still sure that Galatasaray will be able to get win, this could be good match for betting and I think you can't miss this opportunity.

In the Turkish Super League itself Fenerbahce against Antalyaspor and this is an away match for Fenerbahce, in the end, Fenerbahce was still the team that was able to win and they got 3 full points to catch up and reduce the points difference.

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There is an absolute need for 3 points against Kayserispor. There may be rotation and so on, but this shouldn't lead to a loss of points. They need to forget the defeat against Ajax. There was both a defeat and a bad game. These fans can accept defeat but not a bad game with no spirit.
Turkish players need to take some responsibility now. Salih, Mustafa, Semih should contribute to the score. If everything depends on Gedson, Immobile and Silva, there will be no success. Especially defensive players should also contribute on offense. I don't think Kayserispor will close down too much, Beşiktaş will find the scoring positions they want. They should make good use of them and come back from this away match with 3 points.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on September 29, 2024, 01:15:26 PM

Today Fenerbahçe's game was unsatisfying, but they got the 3 points and that's the important thing. As the European cups continue we see rotations. Fenerbahçe is taking advantage of their large squad. After Fred came on in the second half, Fenerbahçe were more comfortable on offense. He also made the assist. Tadic's goal came in the 63rd minute. Until that moment Fenerbahçe struggled. Antalyaspor were ready for a draw, but they couldn't do anything when they were down. Offensively, Antalyaspor is as different from last season as summer and winter. They have no offense this season. Without players like Jehezkel and Buksa, Antalyaspor's offense came to a standstill. They can't get many points with this game.

It's normal to see a team coached by Jose Mourinho not to play exciting football but still get a win at the end of the game. He's been doing over the years with his in the major leagues in Europe so I'm not surprised that he's adopted same style at Fenerbahce. A 2:0 win at Antalyaspor isn't a bad result for Fenerbahce of you ask me and I think Jose Mourinho will be happy with the result his boys were able to give give him

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It was a very important 3 points for Fenerbahçe. It reduced the point difference with Galatasaray to 3.
The referee made wrong decisions. Unfortunately, our country's referees are very bad.

Trabzonspor got its first win in the league. It beat Konyaspor 3-2.

Eyüpspor beat Gziantep FK 3-2 and increased its points to 12.
I think Eyüpspor is one of the teams that plays well in the Süper League.

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Quote from: MK-74 on September 29, 2024, 07:57:48 AM

Today is the Antalyaspor - Fenerbahçe match.
Antalyaspor had a bad start to the league, the team's current coach is one of Fenerbahçe's legends, Alex de Souza.
Fenerbahçe may have a hard time in this match but I think they will get 3 points, at worst they can get 1 point.
It is very important for Fenerbahce to get 3 points in a week when Galatasaray lost points.

Fenerbahçe managed to earn 3 points. It is great that Fenerbahçe did not lose points when Galatasaray drew, I am glad that the points difference between the two teams has decreased. The closer the points are to each other, the higher the excitement will be.

Samsunspor also started this season very well. They scored 4 goals in the match against Göztepe, their offensive style of play is not bad at all. Let's see what they do in the coming weeks

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