Twitch introduces restrictions on gambling-related links - deadline 17 Aug

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Although they will get a hard time to get rid of those existing users who streams gambling but for sure they will reach to zero gambling contents if they impose this rules more strictly.

Also yeah they can move to different places but since twitch is a big platform for sure other owners of social media sites will impose the same banning to if they are been bothered by the government and ask them to stop those rampant gambling activities on each platform they are in.

Everything could really be changed up and there would be alterations if its needed and as long there would be complaints or something non ethical then its normal that they would really be that
kind of action which I don't see any problems.

If these influencers do find out that they've been restricted then they would just find another way as possible as they could. Twitch is indeed a big platform but to
know that there are still several options to take on.

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Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on August 27, 2021, 09:07:32 AM

Quote from: seleme on August 26, 2021, 05:45:26 PM

That is why Twitch prevents underage groups from watching them and some countries are banned Twitch for exactly this reason. It is not about giveaways, the online casinos need fresh money flow which is easy to get with some help from favorite streamers.

The only restriction for gambling related content is if that content is sponsored and streamer are sharing link promotion or refferal codes which can invite new players to gamble because of this streamer promotion link. not because of what you said. CMIIW seems like in twitch right now. its okay to sharing gambling experience as entertainment for viewers but its not okay if the purpose of that video is for promoting such bonus link . ref link.

how big is twitch compare to youtube that did not took out the casino promotion videos of streamers?

there is no way twitch or youtube can stop streamers sharing videos.with reflinks of casinos. those streamers get paid through it, if they disallow these theyd just be moving to a new video sharing sites. this is why there is the need for decentralized social media sites.

while twitch have the rights to do so, streamers can also influence users to stay away from them. myspace ended this way.

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Quote from: seleme on August 26, 2021, 05:45:26 PM

That is why Twitch prevents underage groups from watching them and some countries are banned Twitch for exactly this reason. It is not about giveaways, the online casinos need fresh money flow which is easy to get with some help from favorite streamers.

The only restriction for gambling related content is if that content is sponsored and streamer are sharing link promotion or refferal codes which can invite new players to gamble because of this streamer promotion link. not because of what you said. CMIIW seems like in twitch right now. its okay to sharing gambling experience as entertainment for viewers but its not okay if the purpose of that video is for promoting such bonus link . ref link.

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Quote from: semobo on August 27, 2021, 04:29:23 AM

Quote from: molsewid on August 26, 2021, 11:27:23 PM

That's why I think Twitch introducing restrictions to the streamers on the gambling related links is a big help for the streamer to become aware of the content they would going to put on their livestream. For sure Twitch will not going to release any such restrictions if there is no consequences associated to a violator of their restrictions. I bet that Twitch made a great decision by introducing restrictions on gambling related links because you are right mate today kids were coincidentally open a live stream without being notice that they are watching a gambling related topics.

This is not going to save anyone since they don't have any restriction to the content creation they just restricted creators from using gambling links in their contents but still they can visualise everything even they can dictate the referral code and ask them to enters it manually.

Yeah, that's right.

Our mate misunderstood it. Those links can't be attached or posted anymore with those streams but the streamers can still show that they're gambling through twitch.

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Quote from: molsewid on August 26, 2021, 11:27:23 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 23, 2021, 11:31:52 PM

So what Twitch does can impact the kids by not watching the wrong ads while watching the streams. But suppose streamers still upload their video containing gambling activity, and the kids watch by coincidentally. In that case, Twitch can not do anything because they can not filter all the videos on their server. Maybe Twitch will figure out the other way so all videos containing gambling or other material that is not for kids can be blocked or even banned.

That's why I think Twitch introducing restrictions to the streamers on the gambling related links is a big help for the streamer to become aware of the content they would going to put on their livestream. For sure Twitch will not going to release any such restrictions if there is no consequences associated to a violator of their restrictions. I bet that Twitch made a great decision by introducing restrictions on gambling related links because you are right mate today kids were coincidentally open a live stream without being notice that they are watching a gambling related topics.

This is not going to save anyone since they don't have any restriction to the content creation they just restricted creators from using gambling links in their contents but still they can visualise everything even they can dictate the referral code and ask them to enters it manually.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 23, 2021, 11:31:52 PM

So what Twitch does can impact the kids by not watching the wrong ads while watching the streams. But suppose streamers still upload their video containing gambling activity, and the kids watch by coincidentally. In that case, Twitch can not do anything because they can not filter all the videos on their server. Maybe Twitch will figure out the other way so all videos containing gambling or other material that is not for kids can be blocked or even banned.

That's why I think Twitch introducing restrictions to the streamers on the gambling related links is a big help for the streamer to become aware of the content they would going to put on their livestream. For sure Twitch will not going to release any such restrictions if there is no consequences associated to a violator of their restrictions. I bet that Twitch made a great decision by introducing restrictions on gambling related links because you are right mate today kids were coincidentally open a live stream without being notice that they are watching a gambling related topics.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on August 23, 2021, 11:31:52 PM

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Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 01:52:51 AM

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

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"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

I think this is a good idea, I have no problems with people that decide to gamble and do so responsibly but a lot of kids watch those streams and it is simply not correct that there are so many ads related to gambling as this tend to normalize the activity in the minds of the kids and they could begin to gamble at an inappropriate age, and that is not something that anyone wants, so I see with good eyes something like this, but it is unfortunate people have to be forced to do this and they simply did not restrained themselves from doing so from the beginning.

So what Twitch does can impact the kids by not watching the wrong ads while watching the streams. But suppose streamers still upload their video containing gambling activity, and the kids watch by coincidentally. In that case, Twitch can not do anything because they can not filter all the videos on their server. Maybe Twitch will figure out the other way so all videos containing gambling or other material that is not for kids can be blocked or even banned.

I am not an expert on the topic but it should be easy to do so, any content that has something to do with gambling should be only available for those that are adults and the content must be tagged as such, obviously this is going to put some restrictions on the streamers but this is natural as this is something that already happens with any other advertising, so I do not see anything wrong with this as kids should not gamble or be exposed to ads directly recommending the activity.

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Quote from: ene1980 on August 23, 2021, 07:18:28 PM

Quote from: seleme on August 23, 2021, 05:30:20 PM

The fake money streamers will not be able to directly "force" the new users to register under their referral code, Romania has banned Twitch due to the gambling section(AFAIK).

I am not a Twitch user, but i am trying to understand things here, what do you mean by fake money stream. From what i understand Twitch is a streaming platform for gaming fans to have an interaction and the other interaction i know is the Stake used to conduct giveaway in Twitch.

Quote from: seleme on August 23, 2021, 05:30:20 PM

Spinning thousands on slots with fake money is the easiest part, I have never seen Roshtein has withdrawn a cent during the stream. The sponsored money can mislead the innocent new gamblers and they will keep chasing their loss until the bust. I support this decision of Twitch, even suggest age verification for the gambling/slots section for viewers.

I have no idea what you are talking about here, are you talking about specific streamers ?
If anyone is gambling and if they are well above 18 then you are not misleading, it is the individual conviction to risk money to win more. I understand that some are just dumb enough not to understand what they are doing and want to blame others for their faults. I do not like restrictions in any form in any platform unless and until there is a massive spam attack.

Roshtein, TrainwrecksTv, ClassyBeef, and more streamers just use a fake demo account for entertainment, average Joe will repeat the same tactics or game style on the real balance after watching the fake show. That is why Twitch prevents underage groups from watching them and some countries are banned Twitch for exactly this reason. It is not about giveaways, the online casinos need fresh money flow which is easy to get with some help from favorite streamers.

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Quote from: shield132 on August 25, 2021, 03:34:01 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2021, 03:12:46 PM

Those gambling streams are pretty ridiculous. The streamers are usually open about the fact they’re being paid to gamble with house money and nobody should be so reckless with their own money. Still, you know there’s kids out there bankrupting their families trying to win big so they can be the next big twitch streamer. I guess it’s a better use of money then donating to the girls licking microphones on twitch.

It really depends on the target audience. Usually, the ones who try to be globally popular always aim to be as open and trustworthy as possible and don't hide a lot of facts but there are streamers who focus on local audience and they hide the fact that they are promoted by casinos and try to act like their gambling and win/lose reactions are real. Also, again, usually these streamers win when they have huge bankroll and it makes people think that small capital isn't enough for win and people deposit more and more money with the logic behind it that they'll have a higher chance/rate of win.

You can actually determine if the money used is sponsored one or really came to their pockets but most of the time they are sponsored to make it more look interesting and a bit effective in terms of marketing.
Its true that it would really be having on that targetted audience because we know that there are different types of people with different interest might really get hooked up,once they do able to see that someones
gambling with bigger bets or something like that.@Ognasty, i wasnt aware of those girls on twitch licking out microphones. lol

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2021, 03:12:46 PM

Those gambling streams are pretty ridiculous. The streamers are usually open about the fact they’re being paid to gamble with house money and nobody should be so reckless with their own money. Still, you know there’s kids out there bankrupting their families trying to win big so they can be the next big twitch streamer. I guess it’s a better use of money then donating to the girls licking microphones on twitch.

It really depends on the target audience. Usually, the ones who try to be globally popular always aim to be as open and trustworthy as possible and don't hide a lot of facts but there are streamers who focus on local audience and they hide the fact that they are promoted by casinos and try to act like their gambling and win/lose reactions are real. Also, again, usually these streamers win when they have huge bankroll and it makes people think that small capital isn't enough for win and people deposit more and more money with the logic behind it that they'll have a higher chance/rate of win.

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Those gambling streams are pretty ridiculous. The streamers are usually open about the fact they’re being paid to gamble with house money and nobody should be so reckless with their own money. Still, you know there’s kids out there bankrupting their families trying to win big so they can be the next big twitch streamer. I guess it’s a better use of money then donating to the girls licking microphones on twitch.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on August 24, 2021, 07:46:29 PM

Quote from: AicecreaME on August 24, 2021, 09:01:39 AM

Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 01:52:51 AM

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

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"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

It won't have any negative impact I guess since they just prohibited sharing links or referral links regarding about gambling. However, social media influencers could still promote it without dropping any link on their content or channel. It is enough already by mentioning it in their video and have a separate social media app for promotions like discord to discuss about it. There are so many ways to promote such things, so overall, gambling sites could still make money like usual without being bother by it.

Lots of diversions indeed if they really wanted too unless if there would be some sort of rewards in regards about violations that had been committed out by a specific influencer which would really be completely stop but as mentioned it is really hard to get rid of it completely.

They could really mention it out and redirect into other places which doesn't impose any bans and that's the power of social media. Dropping off links might be prohibited but using up verbal would
really still counts.

Although they will get a hard time to get rid of those existing users who streams gambling but for sure they will reach to zero gambling contents if they impose this rules more strictly.

Also yeah they can move to different places but since twitch is a big platform for sure other owners of social media sites will impose the same banning to if they are been bothered by the government and ask them to stop those rampant gambling activities on each platform they are in.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 24, 2021, 09:01:39 AM

Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 01:52:51 AM

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

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"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

It won't have any negative impact I guess since they just prohibited sharing links or referral links regarding about gambling. However, social media influencers could still promote it without dropping any link on their content or channel. It is enough already by mentioning it in their video and have a separate social media app for promotions like discord to discuss about it. There are so many ways to promote such things, so overall, gambling sites could still make money like usual without being bother by it.

Lots of diversions indeed if they really wanted too unless if there would be some sort of rewards in regards about violations that had been committed out by a specific influencer which would really be completely stop but as mentioned it is really hard to get rid of it completely.

They could really mention it out and redirect into other places which doesn't impose any bans and that's the power of social media. Dropping off links might be prohibited but using up verbal would
really still counts.

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Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 01:52:51 AM

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

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"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

It won't have any negative impact I guess since they just prohibited sharing links or referral links regarding about gambling. However, social media influencers could still promote it without dropping any link on their content or channel. It is enough already by mentioning it in their video and have a separate social media app for promotions like discord to discuss about it. There are so many ways to promote such things, so overall, gambling sites could still make money like usual without being bother by it.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 23, 2021, 05:24:11 PM

Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 01:52:51 AM

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

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"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

I think this is a good idea, I have no problems with people that decide to gamble and do so responsibly but a lot of kids watch those streams and it is simply not correct that there are so many ads related to gambling as this tend to normalize the activity in the minds of the kids and they could begin to gamble at an inappropriate age, and that is not something that anyone wants, so I see with good eyes something like this, but it is unfortunate people have to be forced to do this and they simply did not restrained themselves from doing so from the beginning.

So what Twitch does can impact the kids by not watching the wrong ads while watching the streams. But suppose streamers still upload their video containing gambling activity, and the kids watch by coincidentally. In that case, Twitch can not do anything because they can not filter all the videos on their server. Maybe Twitch will figure out the other way so all videos containing gambling or other material that is not for kids can be blocked or even banned.

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Quote from: seleme on August 23, 2021, 05:30:20 PM

The fake money streamers will not be able to directly "force" the new users to register under their referral code, Romania has banned Twitch due to the gambling section(AFAIK).

I am not a Twitch user, but i am trying to understand things here, what do you mean by fake money stream. From what i understand Twitch is a streaming platform for gaming fans to have an interaction and the other interaction i know is the Stake used to conduct giveaway in Twitch.

Quote from: seleme on August 23, 2021, 05:30:20 PM

Spinning thousands on slots with fake money is the easiest part, I have never seen Roshtein has withdrawn a cent during the stream. The sponsored money can mislead the innocent new gamblers and they will keep chasing their loss until the bust. I support this decision of Twitch, even suggest age verification for the gambling/slots section for viewers.

I have no idea what you are talking about here, are you talking about specific streamers ?
If anyone is gambling and if they are well above 18 then you are not misleading, it is the individual conviction to risk money to win more. I understand that some are just dumb enough not to understand what they are doing and want to blame others for their faults. I do not like restrictions in any form in any platform unless and until there is a massive spam attack.

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The fake money streamers will not be able to directly "force" the new users to register under their referral code, Romania has banned Twitch due to the gambling section(AFAIK). Spinning thousands on slots with fake money is the easiest part, I have never seen Roshtein has withdrawn a cent during the stream. The sponsored money can mislead the innocent new gamblers and they will keep chasing their loss until the bust. I support this decision of Twitch, even suggest age verification for the gambling/slots section for viewers.

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Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 01:52:51 AM

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

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"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

I think this is a good idea, I have no problems with people that decide to gamble and do so responsibly but a lot of kids watch those streams and it is simply not correct that there are so many ads related to gambling as this tend to normalize the activity in the minds of the kids and they could begin to gamble at an inappropriate age, and that is not something that anyone wants, so I see with good eyes something like this, but it is unfortunate people have to be forced to do this and they simply did not restrained themselves from doing so from the beginning.

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I heard about this news on the Blog https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/news/twitch-bans-affiliate-links-for-gambling/ at the time and like the comments made in the OP, they coincide in some points in others they do not.

I think we all want the gambling niche to stay away from cheaters and we all agree on that, it cannot be made to believe that gambling is an easy way to make money.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on August 23, 2021, 12:54:09 AM

Quote from: uneng on August 22, 2021, 05:57:57 PM

I just think Twitch doesn't know or doesn't have how to solve this issue, so in order please their users, they simply introduced an useless restriction that isn't going to stop streamers to promote gambling in the platform, but that at same time will be useful to show their public they care for it are trying to solve this.

They have done the right thing they want a safe and clean environment and they want to be different from other streaming sites and Youtube is one of them, I have seen a lot of porn sites and gambling stream channels on Youtube, and they want parents to put them on their list as one of the safe streaming sites online, putting warning and restrictions will not work, because can easily enter by clinking agree on the warning.

But this restriction is unlikely to work for real. Streamers can just use a middleman site to promote their referral links. Instead of directly linking their public to the casino site, they can send people to a neutral site where there will be a referral link to the casino. I know it because facebook also doesn't allow diverse referral links related to crypto currency, but it's still possible to advertise those links this way I mentioned.

The solution for this is simple and shouldn't involve any restrictions. People just need to get educated about not trusting streamers/youtubers. Their content isn't very different from traditional media entertainment industry. There are a lot of fake elements in propagandas and programs we have been watching since many years ago and it's not different with modern videos we see nowadays on the internet.

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