Twitch introduces restrictions on gambling-related links - deadline 17 Aug - page 4.

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Quote from: jaberwock on August 19, 2021, 12:48:01 PM

Another thing that baffles me is how is twitch gonna differentiate between gambling links and normal links? I mean the streamer can always come and give shortened links to the audience.

That is what I thought. Twitch isn't the first platform to ban referral links and as far as I know this approach isn't efficient. A good example of that is facebook which didn't succeed in doing so, as people just mask their links through third party sites and keep promoting any kinds of services, investments, activities, even the most shady ones without any difficult at all.
There are a lot of content on these platforms that it's nearly to impossible to track everything and remove what they consider inappropriate. In fact I think nothing is going to change in twitch platform. Gambling will keep being advertised anyway.

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With the internet being more and more accessible to minor audiences, this is but a band-aid solution that twitch had offered its subscribers to ensure that no child is exposed to gambling at the earlier years of their life. Sadly, this will not only hurt the economy of twitch streamers who mostly rely on sponsorships to earn money, apart from subscribers and donations which don't always come by especially if you are a budding streamer. Then again I do hope that Twitch doesn't stop here since there will be more problems arising from this in the future if left unattended.

Quote from: dothebeats on August 19, 2021, 12:05:53 PM

A lot of popular streamers have voiced their opinions on this, and I think it’s good overall given that a lot of audiences watching on the platform are teenagers that might have access to mommy and daddy’s card. A lot of these people look up to these huge streamers, and will do whatever they are doing in order to mimic their ‘greatness’ for a tiny bit.

Or perhaps Twitch can just ask for KYC in order to block or screen underage viewers from mature content, though that wouldn’t work in the long run too. A lot would surely protest on KYCs and Twitch’s viewer count would significantly drop.

This is the best move right now. Gambling promotions can, perhaps, stay in YouTube for the meantime.

I saw a similar situation from this with Ricegum's subscribers. Apparently Ricegum had a CSGO skins lotto sponsor that had offered something to his subs too if they were to deposit money and play games. Sadly the site turned out to be a scam and Ricegum, along with the fraudulent company ran away with the money. He even went so far as to drop fake Amazon gift codes as a form of apology to his viewers which is a bit of a dick move if I do say so myself.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on August 17, 2021, 03:39:00 AM

only questionable gambling sites ? if it is then this can do good more than bad to the crypto gambling community but the restriction only applies to the gambling site that has those three games namely slots , roulete and dice ? but why .
it does mean that questionable gambling sites that have games that are not in the list can still continue ? oh no .

If you actually analyze the whole situation, I feel this move from twitch is more targeted towards crypto casinos than anything else. The most common games played at crypto casinos are - Slots, Dice and Roulette/Crash and they have specifically named Dice, which was quite strange.

Another thing that baffles me is how is twitch gonna differentiate between gambling links and normal links? I mean the streamer can always come and give shortened links to the audience.

There was no reason for twitch to ban or do anything but they have suddenly taken such a big step while not really putting much emphasis on what forced them to make such a move.

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Quote from: avikz on August 19, 2021, 12:12:15 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on August 19, 2021, 12:05:53 PM

A lot of popular streamers have voiced their opinions on this, and I think it’s good overall given that a lot of audiences watching on the platform are teenagers that might have access to mommy and daddy’s card. A lot of these people look up to these huge streamers, and will do whatever they are doing in order to mimic their ‘greatness’ for a tiny bit.

Or perhaps Twitch can just ask for KYC in order to block or screen underage viewers from mature content, though that wouldn’t work in the long run too. A lot would surely protest on KYCs and Twitch’s viewer count would significantly drop.

This is the best move right now. Gambling promotions can, perhaps, stay in YouTube for the meantime.

I understand that! But the policy doesn't help to curb teenage gamblers here! Streamers are prohibited from sharing links of the gambling websites. But they are not banned from streaming at all. Gambling related contents can be perfectly streamed on Twitch. So I am not sure how this new policy may remove problem gambling from teenagers!

This new policy will just bring down the affiliate income of the streamers to zero and that's it! Pretty stupid step it seems!

Banning the streamer will reduce the income for their platform so they are not going to do it unless government pushes them to do it and this is just to show that they are not encouraging teenagers so everyone please come to our platform is the motto behind such new policies.

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Quote from: dothebeats on August 19, 2021, 12:05:53 PM

A lot of popular streamers have voiced their opinions on this, and I think it’s good overall given that a lot of audiences watching on the platform are teenagers that might have access to mommy and daddy’s card. A lot of these people look up to these huge streamers, and will do whatever they are doing in order to mimic their ‘greatness’ for a tiny bit.

Or perhaps Twitch can just ask for KYC in order to block or screen underage viewers from mature content, though that wouldn’t work in the long run too. A lot would surely protest on KYCs and Twitch’s viewer count would significantly drop.

This is the best move right now. Gambling promotions can, perhaps, stay in YouTube for the meantime.

I understand that! But the policy doesn't help to curb teenage gamblers here! Streamers are prohibited from sharing links of the gambling websites. But they are not banned from streaming at all. Gambling related contents can be perfectly streamed on Twitch. So I am not sure how this new policy may remove problem gambling from teenagers!

This new policy will just bring down the affiliate income of the streamers to zero and that's it! Pretty stupid step it seems!

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A lot of popular streamers have voiced their opinions on this, and I think it’s good overall given that a lot of audiences watching on the platform are teenagers that might have access to mommy and daddy’s card. A lot of these people look up to these huge streamers, and will do whatever they are doing in order to mimic their ‘greatness’ for a tiny bit.

Or perhaps Twitch can just ask for KYC in order to block or screen underage viewers from mature content, though that wouldn’t work in the long run too. A lot would surely protest on KYCs and Twitch’s viewer count would significantly drop.

This is the best move right now. Gambling promotions can, perhaps, stay in YouTube for the meantime.

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Quote from: Obito on August 19, 2021, 09:00:52 AM

Quote from: imstillthebest on August 17, 2021, 03:39:00 AM

only questionable gambling sites ? if it is then this can do good more than bad to the crypto gambling community but the restriction only applies to the gambling site that has those three games namely slots , roulete and dice ? but why .
it does mean that questionable gambling sites that have games that are not in the list can still continue ? oh no .

Totally, but the problem is that the content creators that they are sponsoring will be affected albeit it could be a temporary and I think that most of them are definitely small time so it's going to hit hard for those people to have their sponsors removed from them, hopefully Twitch can find a way to make things right for this one.

There might be some adjustments but i do see that they wont really be taking back decisions in regards to this.They would really imposing restrictions on things which they do saw that it could really affect their service
integrity.

If there would be some complaints about gambling related links or something like that then its just normal that even any platform will really be making appropriate action.

Its up to theirs if they would really be reverting it back or would really stick out into it and there would be those who got mainly affected.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 19, 2021, 09:54:56 AM

On the one hand, it is good that Twitch cares about its users and tries to protect them from inappropriate content and fraud, but on the other hand, this total concern has led to the fact that streamers are afraid to say the "forbidden" word and are generally very limited in their actions. All of this reminds me of censorship. I don’t understand why adults cannot set the limits of what is acceptable for themselves and Twitch intervenes here?
As for the new rules, I do not think that they will affect the gaming industry - traffic from Twitch to gaming sites is negligible.

Totally agree. I think it's not just for my kids but for others too, just like I said once in this thread.
Twitch as defined was a live streaming gaming platform and not for gambling platform. Perhaps they could find a way to make another website to separate it and still give chance to people who want to share their experiences live while they are gambling.

I am not against both but they have recently become one of the popular platforms ever since the gaming industry starts to explode and most of their viewers are teens. At that age, they don't like their smartphones being checked by their parents anymore.
Who will stop them? I think Twitch being this responsible is a good sign.

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On the one hand, it is good that Twitch cares about its users and tries to protect them from inappropriate content and fraud, but on the other hand, this total concern has led to the fact that streamers are afraid to say the "forbidden" word and are generally very limited in their actions. All of this reminds me of censorship. I don’t understand why adults cannot set the limits of what is acceptable for themselves and Twitch intervenes here?
As for the new rules, I do not think that they will affect the gaming industry - traffic from Twitch to gaming sites is negligible.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on August 17, 2021, 03:39:00 AM

only questionable gambling sites ? if it is then this can do good more than bad to the crypto gambling community but the restriction only applies to the gambling site that has those three games namely slots , roulete and dice ? but why .
it does mean that questionable gambling sites that have games that are not in the list can still continue ? oh no .

Totally, but the problem is that the content creators that they are sponsoring will be affected albeit it could be a temporary and I think that most of them are definitely small time so it's going to hit hard for those people to have their sponsors removed from them, hopefully Twitch can find a way to make things right for this one.

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Quote from: Cacingkemi on August 15, 2021, 10:42:11 AM

It's good that they do have restrictions but I think it's much better if they filtered out real and fake gambling sites, but I think it's really hard work to spot which sites are fake or not since some legitimate gambling sites can turn into scam and there's no way we can predict or to know that.

that might be the problem. they don't filter which ones are legit or not. but generalizes everything. Their idea of protecting their users from fake casinos and online scams is very good. but there must be a way other than completely banning streamers from sharing their ref links. but it seems that very few gambling streamers have complained about this policy, they can still exist on Twitch and get other benefits from streaming.

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Quote from: iv4n on August 13, 2021, 02:47:26 AM

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Well, it's not the crypto gambling that may affected but related twitch gambling streaming may tend to decrease because these streamers may find another platform to stream it live. These streamers will still have time to remind their viewers where and when they'll transition.

Moreover, I think this isn't will be the issue with the links it might be more than that, maybe they'll restrict streaming gambling in the future and this is just the pre-announcement for that.

Too many kids are watching these streams, mostly sponsored by casinos! And it's insane how they play with high stakes, buying bonus rounds with thousands of dollars, and winning with the last money, usually some insane win! Twitch will just follow regulations if they wish to continue working!
I think the same, gambling streamers will find a new platform! It will be interesting to see what will they choose... I am not sure is there some alternative for them at the moment!?

It seems to be one fair reason for that suspension of gambling links sharing because children are more prone to have mental instability with all such things at an early age and they can spend enough funds in undisclosed manner from parents cards as we have seen many cases of the same.To protect to exposure to such gambling things at an early age will protect them in future.But if we talk about streamers they will surely find some other platforms for their business as they are not going to stop until they stop getting sponsored bank rolls.So just let it be.

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 16, 2021, 09:39:44 AM

Do you think youtube will also do the same?

Twitch is still not a popular place for regular users of internet and this action I think is for them to protect their users because the scams promoted in their platform will affect the growth of users. This perhaps makes it neccesary to do for the marketing of Twitch. Right now they don't want to be associated with scams.

Every platforms doesnt really like to be associated with scams and they would really be making appropriate actions with that which i could consider to be a normal act to be done by a company.
They would be needing to restrict into something which they do saw that could really affect their overall reputation or popularity.If some Twitch users could see this to be a disadvantage then
they could always have the option to find another place to do so because Twitch isnt the only place you do such thing but expect that there would be some restrictive rules and regulations
on other platforms as well.

It's hard now to maintain or find some reputable players on any gambling platform. They want this platform to have a lot of accomplishments and a good reputation so that players can use it. Having gambling advertising has a significant impact on them because they do not want any reports of scam activities, thus they have deleted them to prevent future difficulties. Same goes with the other platforms, they will remove it if there's a lot of reports and activities about it.

There are plenty more on youtube streamers promoting scam casino and even new tokens but they are not removing. The problem with such act is that these streamers are popular that could also protest to spread bad reputation to twitch.

If twitch will do this manually they they hire people to check each, it wouldn't affect everyone including the influencers who are providing legitimate reviews.

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only questionable gambling sites ? if it is then this can do good more than bad to the crypto gambling community but the restriction only applies to the gambling site that has those three games namely slots , roulete and dice ? but why .
it does mean that questionable gambling sites that have games that are not in the list can still continue ? oh no .

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Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 01:52:51 AM

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

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"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

I would say that this news is mostly bad for the big streamers because online casinos offened them a huge amount of money if they regularly play on their casinos during streams and then afterwards post Youtube videos with compilations of their biggest winnings while gambling. There was a leak a few weeks ago which showed that the pretty big streamer adin ross was offered more than 1 M $ by different online casinos if he uses their site on stream for a month. So big streamers will probably lose their biggest source of income.
I don't think that the casinos will suffer from that ban, because gambling was always popular and will probably always be.

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I see this as a simple business model, that is, as gambling and betting houses are so popular today, and they handle a large amount of money for advertising, if now we start to see what these regulations are intentionally doing, to later demand that they accept only and exclusively so that they pay and can have their advertising on the Twitch platform, this is very simple, I think that after a month or more, they will have that option so that they can acquire the benefit.

The same will happen on YouTube and all the social networks that see who handle a large amount of demand, this for me is simple, it is a business model.

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Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 01:52:51 AM

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

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"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

Does anyone know if Eddie from Stake will continue his live streams on Twitch with his giveaway codes? It's sad for gamblers because I think those kind of streams were really interesting to discover games and to learn how to play with them.

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Quote from: boyptc on August 15, 2021, 03:26:19 AM

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

All social media nowadays almost show live gambling and of course not only on YouTube, Facebook, even now on TikTok they deliberately do live streaming, it has the impact of aggression on gambling bringing in some new players because they watch from various videos that are shared.

That's true.

And as I've said, there are other platforms and those includes what you've said. Although in some platforms, there are more kids that will that content.

It's the worry that might get in through that content.

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Quote from: milewilda on August 16, 2021, 03:54:21 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on August 16, 2021, 09:39:44 AM

Do you think youtube will also do the same?

Twitch is still not a popular place for regular users of internet and this action I think is for them to protect their users because the scams promoted in their platform will affect the growth of users. This perhaps makes it neccesary to do for the marketing of Twitch. Right now they don't want to be associated with scams.

Every platforms doesnt really like to be associated with scams and they would really be making appropriate actions with that which i could consider to be a normal act to be done by a company.
They would be needing to restrict into something which they do saw that could really affect their overall reputation or popularity.If some Twitch users could see this to be a disadvantage then
they could always have the option to find another place to do so because Twitch isnt the only place you do such thing but expect that there would be some restrictive rules and regulations
on other platforms as well.

It's hard now to maintain or find some reputable players on any gambling platform. They want this platform to have a lot of accomplishments and a good reputation so that players can use it. Having gambling advertising has a significant impact on them because they do not want any reports of scam activities, thus they have deleted them to prevent future difficulties. Same goes with the other platforms, they will remove it if there's a lot of reports and activities about it.

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Quote from: bittraffic on August 16, 2021, 09:39:44 AM

Do you think youtube will also do the same?

Twitch is still not a popular place for regular users of internet and this action I think is for them to protect their users because the scams promoted in their platform will affect the growth of users. This perhaps makes it neccesary to do for the marketing of Twitch. Right now they don't want to be associated with scams.

Every platforms doesnt really like to be associated with scams and they would really be making appropriate actions with that which i could consider to be a normal act to be done by a company.
They would be needing to restrict into something which they do saw that could really affect their overall reputation or popularity.If some Twitch users could see this to be a disadvantage then
they could always have the option to find another place to do so because Twitch isnt the only place you do such thing but expect that there would be some restrictive rules and regulations
on other platforms as well.

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