Twitch introduces restrictions on gambling-related links - deadline 17 Aug - page 3.

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Today I heard another piece of news on a similar topic: OnlyFans plans to exclude adult content from its platform due to scandals related to child pornography. To be honest, I do not see any logic in this - the one who broke the law should be held accountable, but why interfere in the relations of adults who comply with the law on the basis of this? This is all very similar to censorship under the pretext of "care".

I agree but all this censorship on social networks and anywhere else on internet is good for us, because it leads to the rise of decentralized and uncensored solutions in more and more areas and the rise of cryptocurrencies accordingly.

Yes, such actions create a great demand for changes and alternative ways of exchanging information, but it seems to me that in fact, in order to fight corporations, it will be necessary to make our own Internet. Otherwise, you will simply be banned and that's it. As happened, for example, with the technology of torrents - as I heard the very fact of using torrents in Western countries attracts attention and the provider sends a warning that you will be banned if you continue to use them.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on August 20, 2021, 06:55:28 PM

This is the situation in social media nowadays. Everyone is like free to post as long as they are abiding the rules of the social media platform.
As they can easily post what they want across several platforms, it is now up to their followers how they will approach such post.
This is now on the follower's discretion as the streamer can't control what their follower will do after viewing his link.
Their main aim is to attract their followers to follow his link, so whatever circumstances may occur, they are not held liable to it.

I guess such ads can be considered somewhat self controlled in such a case. Since the main function of Facebook isn’t streaming, it appears to be more of a side effect due to extreme popularity, which can bring profit to streamers. As a result, people are much more likely to be annoyed by such advertisements as gambling and will more likely send complaints about such profiles.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 19, 2021, 03:05:07 PM

One things to say about these

*Streamer with fake/sponsor money is panicked! ~XD BTW, welcome to twitch when they restricted some of the content but the content for simp with almost half naked girls still can be available ~XD.

Roshtein with sponsor money play just got banned because of these. Grin

That guy has been playing with a million dollars every stream and it will be interesting how he manages those funds now that the referral link sharing is banned. The guy is rude and bans anyone who questions his funds on stream, just a rubbish streamer. I once watched him when someone shared his link in a group and I was like, seriously, how does this guy has such a huge viewer base.

I am always in favor of restrictions which will make a system better by making abusers in back foot. This way, I hope for betterment in twitch experiences in coming days by cleaning up all possible abuses.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 20, 2021, 09:31:02 PM

It won't have much of an effect. The links are only there so the streamer can make a few extra dollars. The casino is still getting the publicity they paid for. The name of the casino will still be mentioned in the stream so people will still know where they need to go.

There are also some simple workarounds like linking to your twitter and then promoting your affiliate link on there.

I am sure big streamer would be paid only for using the name of the casino. Small-time streamers may not get benefits as affiliate links cannot be used but still, there are other ways to use such affiliate links. You only need the video and post it on different social media platforms that support affiliate links.

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This will have no effect on gambling as the websites will restrict links to very different links from their competitors online resources. Good casino sites mention everything in the name of their casino new sites provide false information for scams this creates an increased burden on vision which allows long term use. All dashboards and sections of online resources are understandable even for beginners and information about the organization, terms of use and other data are at the bottom of the page so as not to be distracted the main page of the site contains a list of all sports.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on August 20, 2021, 06:55:28 PM

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Quote from: boyptc on August 15, 2021, 02:26:19 AM

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

Twitch is still the most popular though, and now some streamers will have to work hard to get that audience again on other platforms.

Also, YouTube can turn out less effective (for the gambling industry), because it is possible to adjust ads there to avoid gambling and alcohol advertising.

And Facebook has strict rules, gambling-related ads are only allowed under given permission.

On Facebook.

I see that the streamers are free to put link and banners on their lives. That's why I think even if there's no permission and they're just streaming on their own, not having the contract through facebook gaming.

They can continue as much as they want.

This is the situation in social media nowadays. Everyone is like free to post as long as they are abiding the rules of the social media platform.
As they can easily post what they want across several platforms, it is now up to their followers how they will approach such post.
This is now on the follower's discretion as the streamer can't control what their follower will do after viewing his link.
Their main aim is to attract their followers to follow his link, so whatever circumstances may occur, they are not held liable to it.

They just give view and exposure to the affiliated links and keep doing their thing.

Other than that, it's all dependent to the viewers if they're going to look at those links or just ignore it and watch those streamers that are entertaining them.

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It won't have much of an effect. The links are only there so the streamer can make a few extra dollars. The casino is still getting the publicity they paid for. The name of the casino will still be mentioned in the stream so people will still know where they need to go.

There are also some simple workarounds like linking to your twitter and then promoting your affiliate link on there.

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Quote from: boyptc on August 20, 2021, 06:10:04 PM

Quote from: just_Alice on August 19, 2021, 05:06:06 PM

Quote from: boyptc on August 15, 2021, 02:26:19 AM

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

Twitch is still the most popular though, and now some streamers will have to work hard to get that audience again on other platforms.

Also, YouTube can turn out less effective (for the gambling industry), because it is possible to adjust ads there to avoid gambling and alcohol advertising.

And Facebook has strict rules, gambling-related ads are only allowed under given permission.

On Facebook.

I see that the streamers are free to put link and banners on their lives. That's why I think even if there's no permission and they're just streaming on their own, not having the contract through facebook gaming.

They can continue as much as they want.

This is the situation in social media nowadays. Everyone is like free to post as long as they are abiding the rules of the social media platform.
As they can easily post what they want across several platforms, it is now up to their followers how they will approach such post.
This is now on the follower's discretion as the streamer can't control what their follower will do after viewing his link.
Their main aim is to attract their followers to follow his link, so whatever circumstances may occur, they are not held liable to it.

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Quote from: just_Alice on August 19, 2021, 05:06:06 PM

Quote from: boyptc on August 15, 2021, 02:26:19 AM

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

Twitch is still the most popular though, and now some streamers will have to work hard to get that audience again on other platforms.

Also, YouTube can turn out less effective (for the gambling industry), because it is possible to adjust ads there to avoid gambling and alcohol advertising.

And Facebook has strict rules, gambling-related ads are only allowed under given permission.

On Facebook.

I see that the streamers are free to put link and banners on their lives. That's why I think even if there's no permission and they're just streaming on their own, not having the contract through facebook gaming.

They can continue as much as they want.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 19, 2021, 04:04:32 PM

Today I heard another piece of news on a similar topic: OnlyFans plans to exclude adult content from its platform due to scandals related to child pornography. To be honest, I do not see any logic in this - the one who broke the law should be held accountable, but why interfere in the relations of adults who comply with the law on the basis of this? This is all very similar to censorship under the pretext of "care".

I agree but all this censorship on social networks and anywhere else on internet is good for us, because it leads to the rise of decentralized and uncensored solutions in more and more areas and the rise of cryptocurrencies accordingly.

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I saw gambling on a big Twitch stream just today, I barely noticed any difference from this rule really. People still know where to go to gamble if they want to or just watch, thats the freedom that should be afforded anyone in a normal democracy.
The idea of censorship removing all harm in the world is such nonsense on every subject in every sector of the economy it doesnt help to treat people like they have no ability to discern a reasonable direction without government. Just crossing the road is the bigger risk vs almost any other problem people over think, instead of banning find a better way to help people with good advice is a way smarter idea.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 19, 2021, 04:04:32 PM

Today I heard another piece of news on a similar topic: OnlyFans plans to exclude adult content from its platform due to scandals related to child pornography. To be honest, I do not see any logic in this - the one who broke the law should be held accountable, but why interfere in the relations of adults who comply with the law on the basis of this? This is all very similar to censorship under the pretext of "care".

The logic is similar to how people want crypto to be banned because it is being used for illegal activities in some places. People don't realize that a gun can be used for murder while also for protecting someone and banning it won't change anything. Streamers using fake money should have been banned and similarly, for only fans (never used it only heard of it), the streamers doing things wrongly should have been punished but instead, we are banning the whole thing.

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Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 12:52:51 AM

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

I think the ban was warranted given how some streamers were using illegal and fake balance to trick viewers. There is no way these streamers are always coming up with a $100k balance and losing it for fun while shouting after they win. Banning affiliate links isn't going to solve the problem totally though because they can still stream with these illegal balances and nothing is done about them.

I would have much preferred for Twitch to ban the gambling streams completely actually. There are countless other platforms for gambling streams and not sure why twitch wants to still keep it despite facing so much heat and pressure from European countries to ban it.

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Quote from: timerland on August 19, 2021, 05:11:14 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on August 19, 2021, 03:05:07 PM

One things to say about these

*Streamer with fake/sponsor money is panicked! ~XD BTW, welcome to twitch when they restricted some of the content but the content for simp with almost half naked girls still can be available ~XD.

Roshtein with sponsor money play just got banned because of these. Grin

Yeah definitely...

I think this is actually a positive development. There is way too much misinformation and misleading advertising being spread around due to these Twitch partners that are getting sponsor money. It's simply not fair given that they can cherrypick wins into a compilation video with their virtually infinite bankroll.

I'm all for consumer empowerment in this regard. They should actually extend the criteria to ban anyone who is playing with sponsored money that has to be returned when the session finishes.

of course, they will create content that may deceive the audience. and we will never know the actual truth about the bankroll and winnings. they can show clips they want and remove the scenes which are not favourable for the site. this is really a very good initiative from twitch, at least lessen the scenario of getting screwed owed to the positive endorsement of these streamers. some supporters are blindly following their idols that's why sometimes it is already too late when they realised they were deceived by the endorsement.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 19, 2021, 03:05:07 PM

One things to say about these

*Streamer with fake/sponsor money is panicked! ~XD BTW, welcome to twitch when they restricted some of the content but the content for simp with almost half naked girls still can be available ~XD.

Roshtein with sponsor money play just got banned because of these. Grin

Yeah definitely...

I think this is actually a positive development. There is way too much misinformation and misleading advertising being spread around due to these Twitch partners that are getting sponsor money. It's simply not fair given that they can cherrypick wins into a compilation video with their virtually infinite bankroll.

I'm all for consumer empowerment in this regard. They should actually extend the criteria to ban anyone who is playing with sponsored money that has to be returned when the session finishes.

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Quote from: boyptc on August 15, 2021, 02:26:19 AM

I don't see any other impact on crypto gambling with that restriction. Content creators can simply stream on other platforms like Facebook and YT and they're going to post those links and referrals there.

Well, these streamers will find a way to at least still give that exposure to their sponsors through their videos if they have a deal with them.

Twitch is still the most popular though, and now some streamers will have to work hard to get that audience again on other platforms.

Also, YouTube can turn out less effective (for the gambling industry), because it is possible to adjust ads there to avoid gambling and alcohol advertising.

And Facebook has strict rules, gambling-related ads are only allowed under given permission.

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Today I heard another piece of news on a similar topic: OnlyFans plans to exclude adult content from its platform due to scandals related to child pornography. To be honest, I do not see any logic in this - the one who broke the law should be held accountable, but why interfere in the relations of adults who comply with the law on the basis of this? This is all very similar to censorship under the pretext of "care".

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One things to say about these

*Streamer with fake/sponsor money is panicked! ~XD BTW, welcome to twitch when they restricted some of the content but the content for simp with almost half naked girls still can be available ~XD.

Roshtein with sponsor money play just got banned because of these. Grin

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Quote from: uneng on August 19, 2021, 02:29:33 PM

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Another thing that baffles me is how is twitch gonna differentiate between gambling links and normal links? I mean the streamer can always come and give shortened links to the audience.

That is what I thought. Twitch isn't the first platform to ban referral links and as far as I know this approach isn't efficient. A good example of that is facebook which didn't succeed in doing so, as people just mask their links through third party sites and keep promoting any kinds of services, investments, activities, even the most shady ones without any difficult at all.
There are a lot of content on these platforms that it's nearly to impossible to track everything and remove what they consider inappropriate. In fact I think nothing is going to change in twitch platform. Gambling will keep being advertised anyway.

I'm not sure about that, the amount of available content on twitch has nothing to do with what you can find on Facebook, and Twitch is very efficient to spot and ban any non-compliant content. You will still maybe find some gambling links in chat rooms but I don't think any streamer will still be able to share this kind of link unfortunately.

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Quote from: avikz on August 13, 2021, 12:52:51 AM

The latest creator update from Twitch says,

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"To prevent harm and scams created by questionable gambling services that sponsor content on Twitch, we will prohibit sharing links and/or referral codes to sites that offer slots, roulette, or dice games,”

Now streamers have time till 17th August to remove any such contents from their videos.

News ref: https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/twitch-introduces-restrictions-on-gambling-related-links

Do you foresee any Impact on crypto gambling?

It is crazy that twitch allowed it to go on for so long - you know that a regulator or lawyer has contacted them in order for them for a financial settlement when you start to see stories like this. They want to to "get ahead of the problem" and pretend to be the pioneer in banning it. In reality they just get to cut out a source of advertising competition within their pages and force these gambling type adverts to look more legitimate so they can take over that revenue stream. Gambling is a very lucrative niche within the advertising industry so it is unlikely to be removed from twitch in all forms. I remember a few years ago there was a big regulator smack down on counterstrike gambling sites with sites shut down and huge fines, so maybe they expect something else similar is going to happen to them.

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