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Quote from: Fatunad on December 16, 2022, 06:58:24 PM

People do only make out some search after that they had been scammed and this is where they do learn up their lessons which is really just too absurd because they could really be able to avoid those things if they
had just able to make search first before taking any actions.

And that's pretty much how scammers take money off of others. They're rather vulnerable and are ignorant of how the internet can answer most questions if you look up properly, and can pretty easily let you off from being scamed.

Quote from: wxa7115 on December 20, 2022, 10:56:28 PM

It depends on the negative review, when the review is quite emotional without any evidence I tend to disregard the negative review as I just assume the gambler lost money and it is simply salty about it.

However if the negative review is articulated and it is very precise on describing what is wrong with the casino then I give it way more weight, and quite honestly just one of those reviews can be more than enough for me to not gamble at that casino, because as we know in this market once your coins are no longer in your wallet it is impossible to get recover them, unless the other person is willing to send you those coins back, something unlikely if you happen to be gambling at a scam casino.

It actually depends even if the review was precise, I'd rather look for proof or guarantees that said complaints were actually understandable. Negative reviews that hate on a casino due to say, UI, slow website, and other tech-ish stuff like that, I usually ignore (but I still don't look at them preferably) and do not really consider it as a scam site. I'd only ever consider a review as "negative" if the casino was a legit scam, otherwise, I'd see it as a simple review.

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Quote from: safari88 on December 18, 2022, 04:27:44 PM

The meaning of lighting up and trusting may well have a large definition. When is a site a scam site? There are often situations where players have violated the terms and conditions and that way problems arise with the gambling site. However, this does not always seem right to me, because casinos are still within their rights to take measures when the general terms and conditions are violated. There is not really 1 type of casino that you should avoid. Using a gambling license also has little value. You will have to look at the reputation and rely on the findings of other players to see what their experiences are like.

When you are making up search and tumble upon with some negative feedbacks or words then it would really be needing up with that verification first whether its a legit one or just simply those fellas are just trying
out to redirect the issue since they had made out some violation.This is where personal judgement would take place and into consideration.Not all issues and complaints cant be considered to be legit
this is why personal verifications is a must but if the entire community does share up with the same feedback then it would be common sense that it is really something
that confirmed or been proven out which it doesnt really need that to look further.

It depends on the negative review, when the review is quite emotional without any evidence I tend to disregard the negative review as I just assume the gambler lost money and it is simply salty about it.

However if the negative review is articulated and it is very precise on describing what is wrong with the casino then I give it way more weight, and quite honestly just one of those reviews can be more than enough for me to not gamble at that casino, because as we know in this market once your coins are no longer in your wallet it is impossible to get recover them, unless the other person is willing to send you those coins back, something unlikely if you happen to be gambling at a scam casino.

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Quote from: safari88 on December 18, 2022, 04:27:44 PM

The meaning of lighting up and trusting may well have a large definition. When is a site a scam site? There are often situations where players have violated the terms and conditions and that way problems arise with the gambling site. However, this does not always seem right to me, because casinos are still within their rights to take measures when the general terms and conditions are violated. There is not really 1 type of casino that you should avoid. Using a gambling license also has little value. You will have to look at the reputation and rely on the findings of other players to see what their experiences are like.

When you are making up search and tumble upon with some negative feedbacks or words then it would really be needing up with that verification first whether its a legit one or just simply those fellas are just trying
out to redirect the issue since they had made out some violation.This is where personal judgement would take place and into consideration.Not all issues and complaints cant be considered to be legit
this is why personal verifications is a must but if the entire community does share up with the same feedback then it would be common sense that it is really something
that confirmed or been proven out which it doesnt really need that to look further.

In my opinion - excess of everything is bad be it gambling or the power one should have balanced approach for everything
And one should not waste much amount to the casinos - because it goes quickly and never comes back

On the time you do make out deposits on a gambling site then consider those amounts to be lost already and other relatable to risk which you should really be anticipating for it to happen.
Its true that everything which is too much would be that bad and it is really that needing to have that balance.Our own will would tell us which is bad and which is right.
You cant really be that dumb on not to notice which is really that bad and which is good.We do have this forum where lots of users could able to
tell if we are dealing with a legit or bad site.

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Quote from: safari88 on December 18, 2022, 04:27:44 PM

The meaning of lighting up and trusting may well have a large definition. When is a site a scam site? There are often situations where players have violated the terms and conditions and that way problems arise with the gambling site. However, this does not always seem right to me, because casinos are still within their rights to take measures when the general terms and conditions are violated. There is not really 1 type of casino that you should avoid. Using a gambling license also has little value. You will have to look at the reputation and rely on the findings of other players to see what their experiences are like.

When you are making up search and tumble upon with some negative feedbacks or words then it would really be needing up with that verification first whether its a legit one or just simply those fellas are just trying
out to redirect the issue since they had made out some violation.This is where personal judgement would take place and into consideration.Not all issues and complaints cant be considered to be legit
this is why personal verifications is a must but if the entire community does share up with the same feedback then it would be common sense that it is really something
that confirmed or been proven out which it doesnt really need that to look further.

In my opinion - excess of everything is bad be it gambling or the power one should have balanced approach for everything
And one should not waste much amount to the casinos - because it goes quickly and never comes back

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...

Like for example, if a casino have a community on bitcointalk, and you are a user of that casino, at any time you have an issue with that casino and the customer support is not helping, bringing such issue to their community on bitcointalk will force the casino to find solution(s) immediately so that they don't lose their other customers in the case where they are the ones at fault..

But a casino without any kind of community anyway, if as a user, you encounter any problems and the customer refuse to help you, you are absolutely helpless, and complaining on forums where the casino is not even known won't help because it does not affect the casino on their business, they probably won't see your complaints, neither would their other customers do, so certainly, they won't answer and their other customers also don't know what is going on.. So it is best to avoid such casinos in my best opinion..

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

It seems like a natural evolution that a casino or sportbook would grow a presence online as they try to attract their customer base. One of the best ways to grow customers in this lucrative and highly competitive business is to make sure your name sits among all the other casinos on places like this or review sites. The only way to do that is by making connections, keeping customers engaged on this type of community and dealing with situations where a customer feels aggravated. If you were to ignore places like this, leaving complaints in the public forum unhandled, then it gives an impression that your site is not trustworthy which is a major part of getting customers to deposit in the first place.

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The meaning of lighting up and trusting may well have a large definition. When is a site a scam site? There are often situations where players have violated the terms and conditions and that way problems arise with the gambling site. However, this does not always seem right to me, because casinos are still within their rights to take measures when the general terms and conditions are violated. There is not really 1 type of casino that you should avoid. Using a gambling license also has little value. You will have to look at the reputation and rely on the findings of other players to see what their experiences are like.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 16, 2022, 06:30:48 PM

Quote from: Slow death on December 10, 2022, 11:32:50 AM

well, about this community issue, in parts you are right, when a new casino doesn't have a community it starts to selectively scam and that makes it very difficult for people to find out early to avoid using the casino, and unfortunately there are many casinos all over the internet that has no community and they pay certain sites that have added casinos to get referrals, and these sites write good things about these scam casinos, unfortunately most people don't do research on other sites to see how reliable X casino is or not , people just rush to create an account at the first casino they find

People get only scammed sometimes because of their poor habit on making a research first before they start gambling. I know that gamblers are all for profits and that's the reality, but if they will rush to play games at an unreputable casinos, its like they're in suicidal. So maybe considering a good community might be the first step to predict that this casino is legit and has no records of scamming.

To be honest, i don't have many problems with the casino i play often. here in our forum. it is very easy to track down casinos that already have a good reputation. some of them even become one of the leading casinos. So, if there are still people who are victims of casino scams. it was their own fault, because they didn't try to find out in advance whether the casino they were going to play at had a good reputation or not. at least, by just browsing in this section of the forum. we can find casinos that are absolutely to be avoided, especially casinos that have a red record.

To be honest, I don't play in many casinos, only one or two casinos. even so, until now I have never experienced the slightest problem, be it a fast deposit or withdrawal. So, guess we should be grateful, that we have a community and can help when we have a little problem with one of the casinos.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 16, 2022, 06:30:48 PM

Quote from: Slow death on December 10, 2022, 11:32:50 AM

well, about this community issue, in parts you are right, when a new casino doesn't have a community it starts to selectively scam and that makes it very difficult for people to find out early to avoid using the casino, and unfortunately there are many casinos all over the internet that has no community and they pay certain sites that have added casinos to get referrals, and these sites write good things about these scam casinos, unfortunately most people don't do research on other sites to see how reliable X casino is or not , people just rush to create an account at the first casino they find

People get only scammed sometimes because of their poor habit on making a research first before they start gambling. I know that gamblers are all for profits and that's the reality, but if they will rush to play games at an unreputable casinos, its like they're in suicidal. So maybe considering a good community might be the first step to predict that this casino is legit and has no records of scamming.

People do only make out some search after that they had been scammed and this is where they do learn up their lessons which is really just too absurd because they could really be able to avoid those things if they
had just able to make search first before taking any actions.This is really a very common behavior of people on which they do take out actions without having that researching first on things.
If they are really just that minding off on how to deal up with things, then making out some research first isnt really that a bad idea.You would really be that
able to avoid and learn up things before and save yourself into those problems.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 10, 2022, 11:32:50 AM

well, about this community issue, in parts you are right, when a new casino doesn't have a community it starts to selectively scam and that makes it very difficult for people to find out early to avoid using the casino, and unfortunately there are many casinos all over the internet that has no community and they pay certain sites that have added casinos to get referrals, and these sites write good things about these scam casinos, unfortunately most people don't do research on other sites to see how reliable X casino is or not , people just rush to create an account at the first casino they find

People get only scammed sometimes because of their poor habit on making a research first before they start gambling. I know that gamblers are all for profits and that's the reality, but if they will rush to play games at an unreputable casinos, its like they're in suicidal. So maybe considering a good community might be the first step to predict that this casino is legit and has no records of scamming.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on December 15, 2022, 08:51:04 AM

Quote from: Taskford on December 09, 2022, 08:00:35 AM

We better check if the people in their community is real because there are certain technology where they can fake those people keep bumping their thread or even continue to discuss something on their channels they can even pay people to do that. Also we should check how they perform and how many cases has been solve by them or if there are pending one because from this we can really figure out how those casino acts towards providing good service to their community. Also we can see if we need to avoid them since having numerous accusation is red flag already to us.

The question is dude, do you have any idea how to know if their community is fake or legit? because nowadays, what you say may be true, but if we don't have evidence, we can ignore it.

They should also have an official channel on Telegram, Twitter, and other social media platforms so that the community knows where to look for them just in case there is a concerning issue that needs to be fixed.

Creating social media platforms arent really that hard which it wont really be that a solid indication if we do speak about legitimacy of a certain platform on which you would really be that relying on it or thinking
off that it would be a solid indication that a certain site is legit.Everything could really be faked from social media accounts to feedbacks or something like that.As a human being then it would really be that impossible
that you wont really be able to determine or differentiate out on whats fake and whats real.Although there are some circumstances which it is really that hard to determine
and this is why this forum is really that relevant or really that helpful if we do speak about real time feedbacks and words towards a certain site.

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Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on December 16, 2022, 04:58:28 PM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating,

Yes, you are totally right on this very statement of yours given above, because in most cases those might be paid reviews by the casino or it's representative to mere individuals so as to attract potential gamblers into patronizing their casino, haven't read lovely rating on websites such as "Trustpilot" and "Scamadvicer.com". And another casino to avoid is one who promises to offer huge first time deposit bonuses, and a casino without an active signature campaign here currently now on the forum. Because if a casino can't afford to run a signature campaign on the forum, how sure are you they will be able to pay you if you luckily happens to win huge profit?

There can be some exemption on this as there are some gambling platforms that don't have any relation or community to this forum but offers great services on the platform and even the gambling review platform provides great ratings to these. Some review websites might be low quality as they accept payment to review platform but there are review sites out there that can be trusted by anyone.

Also, Promotion and Bonuses that are too great, especially for first-time gamblers are pretty common and have no relation to whether the gambling platform can be trusted or not.

In regard to casinos that have a thread here but does not offer a signature campaign doesn't mean that they cannot be trusted, it just means that signature promotion on the forum did not provide the great result on their advertisement as signature campaigns are often effective only in the long run.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating,

Yes, you are totally right on this very statement of yours given above, because in most cases those might be paid reviews by the casino or it's representative to mere individuals so as to attract potential gamblers into patronizing their casino, haven't read lovely rating on websites such as "Trustpilot" and "Scamadvicer.com". And another casino to avoid is one who promises to offer huge first time deposit bonuses, and a casino without an active signature campaign here currently now on the forum. Because if a casino can't afford to run a signature campaign on the forum, how sure are you they will be able to pay you if you luckily happens to win huge profit?

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Quote from: Taskford on December 09, 2022, 08:00:35 AM

We better check if the people in their community is real because there are certain technology where they can fake those people keep bumping their thread or even continue to discuss something on their channels they can even pay people to do that. Also we should check how they perform and how many cases has been solve by them or if there are pending one because from this we can really figure out how those casino acts towards providing good service to their community. Also we can see if we need to avoid them since having numerous accusation is red flag already to us.

The question is dude, do you have any idea how to know if their community is fake or legit? because nowadays, what you say may be true, but if we don't have evidence, we can ignore it.

They should also have an official channel on Telegram, Twitter, and other social media platforms so that the community knows where to look for them just in case there is a concerning issue that needs to be fixed.

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A casino has to be flourished in all aspects to gain popularity. As the casino business continues to thrive, many scammers create new trap along with good casinos. But to get rid of all these various traps some things need to be well analyzed. I will say like others that this forum helps keep a gambler safe from those scam sites. There are ANN threads open for each site where a gambler can get support for any need. Moreover, a new gambler can easily select a casino site by looking at reviews from it. The best thing is that scam sites cannot promote in this platform. Moreover, giving utmost importance to a gambler's withdrawals, deposits and promotions etc. And in these cases when no solution is found after getting any error then those gambling or casino sites should be avoided.

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Quote from: boyptc on December 11, 2022, 04:44:36 PM

I'd say those that have a poor support even if they have a strong presence online. I'd rather have the one that has no community and no strong online presence but by just staying on their site, you're getting all the help when needed.

That's what we want when we're playing in a casino and that's to be appreciated by the casino itself and by giving us the service through its own channels.

Slow customer support can without a doubt be a problem, especially if the support is also not of the best quality and you need to spend days to resolve an issue that in other casinos may take minutes.

And while I can understand that new or small casinos may not be able to afford such a high quality customer support, I have had some similar experiences with casinos which were very popular, and to me this is very discouraging to the point that if possible I would try to avoid gambling on that casino in the future.

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Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on December 08, 2022, 05:31:21 PM

It's pretty obvious that we have alot of casinos without online presence here on BTT, but does that make peeps reject an offer to bet on their platform? The answer is NO!
People don't really care about it.. afterall, organizing a campaign on the forum is just an AFTERTHOUGHT and the whole project needs funds ; so an excuse (to anyone who might Wanna hear) would be that it incures extra expenditures -- after spending alot already on a customer care Bot? Or hiring a representative to attain to any complaints? That'll be too much. Most gamblers don't even consider that as a preference anyways.

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Well, I believe that won’t be necessary at all especially if we are already in a trusted and reputable casino, but for those who have just come out in the market and are still attracting new players, a good online thread will help them gain interested players since they can bargain there their bonuses and promotions and anyone that will be interested will be given chances to inquire first of the requirements to avail those games.

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Quote from: uneng on December 11, 2022, 01:43:16 PM

The problem with random reviews is that you don't know the history of those people, for how long they have been active on this niche, if they are legit gamblers or members of the casino itself or even haters from a rival company.

In that case, I think we should already know what's the best thing to do. Even with no active ANN thread here, we shouldn't be supposed to fall on a random gambling site that easily because we have all the common sense to determine if we are risking money on a considered good site or not. With lots of site checkers today, it's quite easy nowadays to determine if a site is trustworthy or not. Fiat online casinos don't have ANN thread but I do play on several fiat online casinos and I'm not worried about being scammed because I do the proper research before depositing money on those. So far, so good.

Obviously, if you end up not finding many reviews on a certain site, why should you use them? Skip and find another.

This response of mine is just in case a user doesn't know everything about the ANN thread since mostly and of course, only crypto-gambling sites are being discussed here but the subject should be generalized and also includes online fiat casino.

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I'd say those that have a poor support even if they have a strong presence online. I'd rather have the one that has no community and no strong online presence but by just staying on their site, you're getting all the help when needed.

That's what we want when we're playing in a casino and that's to be appreciated by the casino itself and by giving us the service through its own channels.

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Quote from: serjent05 on December 11, 2022, 03:20:45 PM

Quote from: redsun114 on December 10, 2022, 06:24:01 AM

And, not all casinos that are rated high were automatically mean legit because ratings can also be faked out easily. The only way for us to confirm if the casino is truly legit or not it is by playing with them using some amounts which we can afford to lose easily. A legit high rated casino must have a gaming license. If we have a concern, I think it's possible to report them in their license issuer. Also I heard that a licensed casino can be reported in askgamblers.com

We don't actually need to spend money to check if the casino is legit. We just need to look for a legit review platform that does not modify the players' feedback. There are lots of platforms like this on the internet so gathering information if a casino is legitimate or not can be verified through this kind of platform

Agree with this and indeed, instead of spending money, it is better to look for official reviews first, apart from minimizing the loss of our money, we also don't have to bother coming to their site.
Currently there are many sources that can be used as a reference especially with some reviews there and maybe here is also a good place to find it because at bitcointalk too I think we already know about some reviews that can actually be trusted in this regard.
Even though everything can't be done like that, especially for newbies, things like this are a good thing to minimize spending on gambling and at least our time isn't wasted.

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Quote from: serjent05 on December 11, 2022, 03:20:45 PM

Quote from: redsun114 on December 10, 2022, 06:24:01 AM

There must be an online casino that doesn't have a community but it doesn't mean that all of them are a scam. Maybe they are not just a fan of those. They created an online casino for the sole purpose of earning a money. Nothing else.

Online casino has a community but they just don't create a forum or an extra site for these community to discuss the casino. It is reasonable because it is just an extra expenses and needs extra man power to moderate that outside the casino community platform when they have the chat room on the site.

Quote from: redsun114 on December 10, 2022, 06:24:01 AM

And, not all casinos that are rated high were automatically mean legit because ratings can also be faked out easily. The only way for us to confirm if the casino is truly legit or not it is by playing with them using some amounts which we can afford to lose easily. A legit high rated casino must have a gaming license. If we have a concern, I think it's possible to report them in their license issuer. Also I heard that a licensed casino can be reported in askgamblers.com

We don't actually need to spend money to check if the casino is legit. We just need to look for a legit review platform that does not modify the players' feedback. There are lots of platforms like this on the internet so gathering information if a casino is legitimate or not can be verified through this kind of platform

A quick search over the internet will give us a lot of results, and those results are for us to validate such claims.
Check the source of the feedback, because at first glance, you will have the notion if it is authentic or not.
If you can't determine its legitimacy, check for other reviews or feedbacks, if there are a lot of negative reviews, doubt the site already.
You can always verify the claim if you will also try the site, but use small amount of bankroll to test the site.
Fortunately, on this forum, there are couple of good review sites regarding casinos, and you can check them out below-

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gamblingbrocom-honest-crypto-casino-reviews-tested-with-real-deposits-5335097 - Gamblingbro.com
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btcgosu-your-trusted-guide-to-the-best-bitcoin-casinos-5262141 - btcgosu.com

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