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Quote from: Saisher on December 05, 2022, 11:00:17 AM

They could have an announcement thread here but if they kept ignoring the accusations and the accusations are valid that makes them a casino to avoid, and if they are going to address issues about the complaints it should be satisfactorily whoever side it will be, there are a lot of casinos that are guilty of manipulating their investigations when presenting to the community, the gambling community is wise enough to avoid these kinds of casinos.

Community arent blind not to make out those impressions whether it would be proven out or not.Most of crypto based casinos does really have that ANN thread on this place on which people could easily make out some complaints and feedbacks or even suggestion which the entire community would be able to read up and specially into those visitors who had been looking for information in regarding a site.
Its really that somewhat impossible that we cant really see any information here on this forum and its impossible for a certain company on not to touch up this place.
This community is really that highly reactive when it comes scam and complaints which it is really that sensible on reading up on this place every now and then.

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Quote from: beerlover on December 05, 2022, 09:12:02 AM

I think this is crypto and in the crypto world if you have the chance to wager on a place that has not just an ANN topic here, but also someone who works here as well, that would be a lot better. Most big places have people here, stake has symphonized, sportsbet.io has Steve, and many other places have a staff member that replies and that is good.

That makes sense. I have seen many services here with dead topics which means they got chance to introduce their service on bitcointalk but got no time to keep their topic alive. So, choosing a casino with active representative definitely lead to better experience for endusers.

Quote from: beerlover on December 05, 2022, 09:12:02 AM

why would I pick them when I could simply just focus on the ones that have people here and if I ever face a problem I would just be writing here to the ANN topic and get a response? Or pm that person and get a response again? Just the ticket number would be enough in most cases.

Yeah, when you face problem with a services, a quick resolution means a lot for the case of mental stress; most people here may not able to get that but I have experienced that and that might be the reason I agree with you.

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They could have an announcement thread here but if they kept ignoring the accusations and the accusations are valid that makes them a casino to avoid, and if they are going to address issues about the complaints it should be satisfactorily whoever side it will be, there are a lot of casinos that are guilty of manipulating their investigations when presenting to the community, the gambling community is wise enough to avoid these kinds of casinos.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

If you talk about online crypto casinos, indeed lately online casinos have mushroomed and developed rapidly, they are easy to get on social media and elsewhere, almost everything on average moves from retail, entertainment, online games, maybe you could say that online casinos are a haven for solid gambling addicts, at the moment.

For me personally to make a choice and stay away from online casinos whether they are here or outside, I think there are many factors that I need to consider and I have to avoid them.
For example:
I will avoid if.
• For online crypto casino, which performs bad and careless service for its customers.
• I would avoid, if the online casino has limited games and the casino offers bonuses that are beyond common sense and terrible.
• The next thing I need to anticipate and avoid is if online casinos are unsafe and unlicensed and at the end of the review about them.

Maybe, that's what I can consider avoiding and betting on online crypto casinos, be it in this forum or out here.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

Besides the absence of an Online Presence/Community, deception and manipulation are also one of the reasons and there are a lot of casinos that opened announcements here and are guilty of manipulation and deception one of which is faking a license, associating with known scam casinos and denying it, and ignoring legit questions and not open to suggestion from the community like getting a copper account.
We want to help these new casinos but they should show sincerity that they come here clean and open to suggestions and criticism.

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I think that the online community will matter when it comes to the a big community that already formed like BTT. The online casino will not try to have a problem with a member and try to fix the issue caused by it can destroy the reputation. Remember that if most of casinos in here were also using cryptocurrency. it can be said that those casinos were also getting so many members from here and then when those casinos make a mistake that destroy their reputation and none will not use those casinos anymore.
The community will matter once it has grown to be a big community. That will make casino think for twice before try to scamming its users. That's pretty much the same like 1xbit as a scam casino with so many problems that never be solved.
Mostly of members marked 1xbit as a scam exchange site that must be avoided.

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I have said several times on other threads and I will say it again here that before jumping and playing in a crypto casino it is always better to read the Gambling section and the ANN threads of different casinos.When you see that a certain ANN thread has only positive vibes in it and 0 complaints that is a big indication that you can go and play without worrying to much about if the casino will pay you or not and you can be sure in 99.99% of the cases that casino is not going to scam you.The longer the ANN thread in pages the better.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 04, 2022, 07:55:25 PM

I don't think that we should avoid already a site that has no ANN thread. You can't apply that argument to fiat online casinos where in the first place, there's no discussion place about them or we will see them at other forums with gambling sections.

A reputable gambling site, either a fiat casino or a crypto casino surely has great reviews if we did research when we consider using them.

As long as every review we will encounter about that site that has no ANN thread, we should be good to go. But if not sure, then stick with those reputable gambling sites here that have an ANN thread.

But at least if the casino has an ANN, we can discuss it with them about the casino and if we have questions, we can ask them directly. This is equivalent to having customer support always ready 24/7 to help customers. But that also depends on the representatives of each casino because there are casino representatives who can quickly provide answers from members and there are those who need time.

A well-known gambling site will develop if it can accept aspirations through criticism, suggestions, and so on because that's the nature of building their site to be even better. But if the casino site doesn't have an ANN and its customer support isn't quick to respond to questions from its members, where else should we ask our questions?

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 04, 2022, 07:55:25 PM

I don't think that we should avoid already a site that has no ANN thread. You can't apply that argument to fiat online casinos where in the first place, there's no discussion place about them or we will see them at other forums with gambling sections.

A reputable gambling site, either a fiat casino or a crypto casino surely has great reviews if we did research when we consider using them.

As long as every review we will encounter about that site that has no ANN thread, we should be good to go. But if not sure, then stick with those reputable gambling sites here that have an ANN thread.

I think this is crypto and in the crypto world if you have the chance to wager on a place that has not just an ANN topic here, but also someone who works here as well, that would be a lot better. Most big places have people here, stake has symphonized, sportsbet.io has Steve, and many other places have a staff member that replies and that is good.

I am not saying that all others are bad, they might be good too, but why would I pick them when I could simply just focus on the ones that have people here and if I ever face a problem I would just be writing here to the ANN topic and get a response? Or pm that person and get a response again? Just the ticket number would be enough in most cases.

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Quote from: Bitinity on December 04, 2022, 02:00:51 AM

We cant generalize that all Online Casinos without online presence/community are likely scam. If you use it as a standardization, how about 1xbit? This bookie has active representative in this forum, they are promoting themselves through signature campaign as well but in fact they are well known scammers. On the other side, there are also some casinos with no longer active presence in this forum such as Bitsler and Chips, but they are still reliable enough. Casino's presence/community is not a guarantee that they will not turn into scam. There are many other things to consider when it comes to which casinos to avoid.

I think OP is right if a casino has an announcement here then surely they will have their representative's account, so If they scam any forum member, then we can give negative trusts so that other members know that casino is not safe for depositing funds and playing.

Yes, It is true that 1xbit ANN is active here and they have sig campaign too, but that does not mean any of our members will dare to play there, since we all know they are scammers. And if any one deposits there he risking his funds.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

Its good for a casino to have an online presence here on Bitcoin and on other platforms, they open themselves to criticism and are willing to address every issue of every player, but it should be when they are not satisfied with how the support addresses their issue, not all concern should be posted here or in other platforms, there are a lot of advantages for casinos and the community as well, casinos are running on the trust of the gambling community and having a presence here and addressing all concern will give them the trust of the community.

Only casinos that want to have more players and establish their reputation are willing to set up a community here and so it's very important for new casinos to include in their goal or roadmap to have an official announcement here its good marketing and advertisement and establishing its reputation, many casinos only have Bitcointalk and they are doing great

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I don't think that we should avoid already a site that has no ANN thread. You can't apply that argument to fiat online casinos where in the first place, there's no discussion place about them or we will see them at other forums with gambling sections.

A reputable gambling site, either a fiat casino or a crypto casino surely has great reviews if we did research when we consider using them.

As long as every review we will encounter about that site that has no ANN thread, we should be good to go. But if not sure, then stick with those reputable gambling sites here that have an ANN thread.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 04, 2022, 12:34:51 PM

You are definitely not wrong, but this is you, how about others out there that enjoy trying out multiple casinos?
I am just like you, and even more loyal than you in terms of number of casinos we've gambled on over the years, you've gambled on 5 or 6, meanwhile I have gambled only 3 over the years, and they are namely..
Freebitco
Owl.games
Stake.com
Ive never had any issues with any of this casinos, but me knowing that there are alot of gamblers that take great pleasure in jumping from one casino to another is the reason I created this topic, also serving as an advice to incoming/new gamblers.

In my understanding, people who try multiple casinos, are only curious about the new casinos. They may be interested in the prizes/bonuses during the promotion period at the casinos. So, they won't stay a long time there.

Commonly, we only gamble constantly in a few casinos, maybe 1-3 casinos. The reason to choose the casinos should be the same as you, it is because the casinos are the most reputable or trusted casinos in this forum. If there are bad issues in the casinos, everyone simply avoids them, especially if the issues are proven. No matter how good the casino's rating is, people won't be interested anymore if they have bad issues.

Yep. New gamblers probably don't really understand this, especially if they are not a part of this forum or just join this forum. I appreciate your effort to remind everyone about this.

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Quote from: harizen on December 04, 2022, 07:22:36 PM

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

Establishing an official announcement thread here in the biggest crypto forum is really a good thing for a crypto-gambling site. It will be a good reference for users that want to try a certain gambling site and real-user reviews are far better than a review site's reviews.

However, it doesn't mean that if there's no ANN thread here, we can assume right away that these sites will likely to turned scams.

It will now depend on users' choice of how they will improve their DYOR when choosing a gambling site to play with.

yes, some reputable casinos out there don't have their ANN threads in the forum. some started as fiat-based so they already got their loyal patrons, and they only integrated crypto payment later on. so it is understandable that some of them don't find promoting in this forum as advantage. it is always on the player himself who needs to do his due diligence before depositing to the site. at least do a brief background check if they have existing complaints or issues.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

Establishing an official announcement thread here in the biggest crypto forum is really a good thing for a crypto-gambling site. It will be a good reference for users that want to try a certain gambling site and real-user reviews are far better than a review site's reviews.

However, it doesn't mean that if there's no ANN thread here, we can assume right away that these sites will likely to turned scams.

It will now depend on users' choice of how they will improve their DYOR when choosing a gambling site to play with.

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My friend has been recently scammed on crypto casino because of unhashed server seed difference. I helped him to open scam accusation on forum but there was no casino representative to answer accusation questions. It is better to play on popular crypto casino of forum, why should user go to choose X casino if there are more than 20 proven legit casino advertised on forum?..

Is good to have a good casino website where people are gambling and gamble, not a situation whereby gamblers have decides on playing gamble to a site that gives bonus, and i believe that its bonus that always make people to think of gambling because gambling suppossed to follow a protocol or lane whereby people know very well and when you play you make very well.

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My friend has been recently scammed on crypto casino because of unhashed server seed difference. I helped him to open scam accusation on forum but there was no casino representative to answer accusation questions. It is better to play on popular crypto casino of forum, why should user go to choose X casino if there are more than 20 proven legit casino advertised on forum?..

Good point.
Gambling sites with a discussion thread either here on this forum or outsides like Reddit or other names are easy to reach than those who just rely on their customer support. Most of the time, they are just recorded and it sucks to be in that position talking to a robot knowing anytime they can cut the line or just say "please try again later". Way different than a text form of service, some members could help with the query (just like what we are doing here) if they know the solution or support can answer anytime.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...

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I agree with you, and in fact I believe the opposite is also very valid...

A reliable casino will always want to show its presence in the community, generate rapport with users, publicize its products, create promotions, answer questions and mediate conflicts before they become bigger, anyway.

A site that hides from the community is because it is afraid of something or because it needs to hide to protect itself from attacks.
In fact, I don't think there is any big, reputable casino that doesn't have an active presence in the user community, either here on the forum, on telegram or on some other social network like facebook.

Anyway... I agree with you, every trusted site needs to have a presence in the community, if it doesn't, it's good that users don't deposit much trust or even money in it, it can be dangerous.

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Quote from: crzy on December 04, 2022, 04:52:36 PM

Quote from: Cling18 on December 04, 2022, 10:34:10 AM

That's the importance of choosing a casino with an ANN thread because you will be able to have your queries answered. It is important that we'll always make sure that a casino has its community because we could always check on the latest updates and happenings through it.
A casino with a dead or no existing community is definitely a manipulated casino or more likely scam which we have to get rid of.

Having a community here in the forum can be a big factor on choosing a casinos because usually, if you are here in the forum many will analyze if that site is legit or not and by this you can know if you are going to play with the site or just choose the old one. If there’s no community to talk with, then it will be hard to share some thoughts and experiences about that site, which I think is more risky to play.

A casinos without community is just like a ghost casinos which you can’t find any details about it and the risk is more about getting scammed since you can’t even know if the site is legit or not. Having a good community tells a lot so if you are going to choose a casino, make sure that they have a good community and they are very active on that community. Every casinos should have this, or else that’s a red flag and better to avoid it.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 02:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...

[...]

I agree with you, and in fact I believe the opposite is also very valid...

A reliable casino will always want to show its presence in the community, generate rapport with users, publicize its products, create promotions, answer questions and mediate conflicts before they become bigger, anyway.

A site that hides from the community is because it is afraid of something or because it needs to hide to protect itself from attacks.
In fact, I don't think there is any big, reputable casino that doesn't have an active presence in the user community, either here on the forum, on telegram or on some other social network like facebook.

Anyway... I agree with you, every trusted site needs to have a presence in the community, if it doesn't, it's good that users don't deposit much trust or even money in it, it can be dangerous.

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