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Quote from: Cling18 on December 04, 2022, 09:34:10 AM

That's the importance of choosing a casino with an ANN thread because you will be able to have your queries answered. It is important that we'll always make sure that a casino has its community because we could always check on the latest updates and happenings through it.
A casino with a dead or no existing community is definitely a manipulated casino or more likely scam which we have to get rid of.

Having a community here in the forum can be a big factor on choosing a casinos because usually, if you are here in the forum many will analyze if that site is legit or not and by this you can know if you are going to play with the site or just choose the old one. If there’s no community to talk with, then it will be hard to share some thoughts and experiences about that site, which I think is more risky to play.

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Well i really like your point because this is a major issues with some casino's that is not fully recognized here and i believe many have encountered lots of issues due to aforementioned problems. What i don't want to see about casino's or gambling sites are delay to process payment and also avoid does casino's that do not asked for kyc at when deposit but during withdrawal they frustrate you with kyc.
In my opinion i think any casino site that would possibly request for kyc at time of withdrawal they should also request for kyc at time deposit so that after verification before depositing funds and not the other way round.

I think with this strategies, complain for late kyc verification would like reduced and make a better good names, lets say during withdrawal bettors won't be asked to further run a kyc before taking their funds.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on December 04, 2022, 10:56:28 AM

I think the other way around. I don't think of casinos to avoid, I think of casinos to bet from, which are not many, as I don't need 27 casinos. With the ones that have a good reputation on the forum I have plenty to choose from and as far as I remember I have only gambled in 5 or 6 over the years, never having a problem with any of them.

Yeah it's because they have established their names already, but it all starts here in our community.

We've seen casinos boom in the pandemic, like in 2020 wherein there are a lot of them being born and it all began here and then they move forward to our social media platform to promote. And so once they have gain their reputation, and then maintain it for a long time, then new gamblers will try to play with them to experience the same. And so they became a niche because of that and so I we don't need any other platform. Yeah probably 5-6 will do for now. Of course we can try new casinos, but still up to us to take that risk or not.

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Quote from: joeperry on December 04, 2022, 01:12:43 AM

I would like to avoid casinos that was using the same script as the other scam projects from before. Lately I've seen some new gambling sites that was using the same website script which I don't really trust and even though they have a community here in the forum it doesn't mean that they don't have the chance to scam you.

It is reasonable to avoid them since there is a possibility that the same people are behind these casinos. But in a more logical manner, I do not think that we should jump to conclusion that these new sites that bought the same script are scammers. As they say, a person cannot be guilty of a crime unless proven. So judging these newly created casinos as scams because they have the same script is somehow moot.

Quote from: joeperry on December 04, 2022, 01:12:43 AM

I would consider to avoid gambling site that has no previous reputation, no active support or community, no active promotions and probably have some open scam accusations for my own safety.

I think I would do the same, it is logical to avoid casinos that have a shady background and most of all have unsolved scam accusations.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 01:44:08 PM

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This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

The points you raise OP in this thread a valid. The community serves as a form of check against some illegalities. A casino company that has a community would do everything possible not the tarnish its image because it would discredit the company in the community. But most times some new casinos might not have a massive presence in some communities but they might have integrity. It takes sometime to establish a casino in a community and most renowned casino firms started building their companies gradually before they became well-known. But this doesn't dispute the fact that there are some casino firms that don't have an active community but they are doing a good job in the gambling sector.

I highly agree, it isn't good to tag any cryptocurrency gambling platform as a scam if they don't have the stuff @OP is looking for. This casino has its own way of marketing itself and besides, if an issue arises, only the casino can solve it so that is probably one of the reasons why not all crypto casino gambling company does not pay attention much on the online community presence in other platforms because they already have a presence online via their customer support.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 01:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...

Like for example, if a casino have a community on bitcointalk, and you are a user of that casino, at any time you have an issue with that casino and the customer support is not helping, bringing such issue to their community on bitcointalk will force the casino to find solution(s) immediately so that they don't lose their other customers in the case where they are the ones at fault..

But a casino without any kind of community anyway, if as a user, you encounter any problems and the customer refuse to help you, you are absolutely helpless, and complaining on forums where the casino is not even known won't help because it does not affect the casino on their business, they probably won't see your complaints, neither would their other customers do, so certainly, they won't answer and their other customers also don't know what is going on.. So it is best to avoid such casinos in my best opinion..

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

There are a few different techniques that casinos and sportbooks can use which are pretty poor practice from the customer aspect. Sometimes you'll find that customers can deposit very easily, without submitting things like KYC documentation to "activate" the account but when you want to withdraw they ask for such things, have hidden transaction fees or take excessive amounts of time to process a withdrawal. All of these can be incredibly frustrating for a customer but only become apparent after the customer has won (sometimes big). It's good to take a blend of reviews from different sources but also with some skeptisism, because if you just look at reviews from places outside of Bitcointalk you can often only find people who have lost money and naturally want to attack the site even if it was all legitimate.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 01:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

The points you raise OP in this thread a valid. The community serves as a form of check against some illegalities. A casino company that has a community would do everything possible not the tarnish its image because it would discredit the company in the community. But most times some new casinos might not have a massive presence in some communities but they might have integrity. It takes sometime to establish a casino in a community and most renowned casino firms started building their companies gradually before they became well-known. But this doesn't dispute the fact that there are some casino firms that don't have an active community but they are doing a good job in the gambling sector.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on December 04, 2022, 10:56:28 AM

I think the other way around. I don't think of casinos to avoid, I think of casinos to bet from, which are not many, as I don't need 27 casinos. With the ones that have a good reputation on the forum I have plenty to choose from and as far as I remember I have only gambled in 5 or 6 over the years, never having a problem with any of them.

It's great if you've never had a problem with any of the casinos you've used.
But we know that some people often experience it because they are wrong in choosing the casino or violate the casino's rules.
We try to avoid casinos that are obscure or have a bad reputation because we don't want to get into trouble with those casinos.
And if there are still people who have lost money at the casino, maybe they are not looking to find the right casino for them.
If they can find one, they won't have any problems and won't move to another casino either.

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Quote from: Cling18 on December 04, 2022, 09:34:10 AM

That's the importance of choosing a casino with an ANN thread because you will be able to have your queries answered. It is important that we'll always make sure that a casino has its community because we could always check on the latest updates and happenings through it.
A casino with a dead or no existing community is definitely a manipulated casino or more likely scam which we have to get rid of.

There are still casinos that is pretty inactive in this forum but I believe not a scam at all. I'm playing on bustabit if I want to play crash game and they haven't failed me once in terms of service. I trusted them because I'm playing on that casino for a long time now and it is my first choice if I want to play crash game. Generalizing a scam casino is pretty harsh but I think you have a point given that I myself will also not play on a casino that has no ANN thread here. Having an ANN thread is an advantage for both player and the casino, I don't see why other casino won't do their own ANN thread here especially that it is FREE.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on December 04, 2022, 10:56:28 AM

I think the other way around. I don't think of casinos to avoid, I think of casinos to bet from, which are not many, as I don't need 27 casinos. With the ones that have a good reputation on the forum I have plenty to choose from and as far as I remember I have only gambled in 5 or 6 over the years, never having a problem with any of them.

You are definitely not wrong, but this is you, how about others out there that enjoy trying out multiple casinos?
I am just like you, and even more loyal than you in terms of number of casinos we've gambled on over the years, you've gambled on 5 or 6, meanwhile I have gambled only 3 over the years, and they are namely..
Freebitco
Owl.games
Stake.com
Ive never had any issues with any of this casinos, but me knowing that there are alot of gamblers that take great pleasure in jumping from one casino to another is the reason I created this topic, also serving as an advice to incoming/new gamblers.

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Most of the gambling are trusted one now, people loss their money only by the less knowledge toward the game. In the gambling people should learn the game and with the knowledge they can earn from gambling. You should check the gambling company owners and their support towards the issue. And you should check the people background. You need to check whether you had get into the correct gambling site. Because winning is different from get the cash out from the websites. We know real colours of gambling at the time of withdrawal of funds. Such type of check by the gambling sites should be avoided.

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I think the other way around. I don't think of casinos to avoid, I think of casinos to bet from, which are not many, as I don't need 27 casinos. With the ones that have a good reputation on the forum I have plenty to choose from and as far as I remember I have only gambled in 5 or 6 over the years, never having a problem with any of them.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 01:44:08 PM

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...

I think this only applies to new gambling platforms, as they tend to start with a high trust rating on most review sites which they've likely paid in the first place. However, even if they have a great community on the forum, some of them tend to scam people later on. It's best to check everything first on new gambling platforms before even gambling there.

However, old casinos that have great reputations on different and legitimate review sites can be trusted even if they don't have a community here on the forum. Usually, review sites also factor in customer service and how responsive they are. If in any case, customer service won't be able to provide a general answer on your query, you can try and contact them via email so someone higher can answer it for you.

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That's the importance of choosing a casino with an ANN thread because you will be able to have your queries answered. It is important that we'll always make sure that a casino has its community because we could always check on the latest updates and happenings through it.
A casino with a dead or no existing community is definitely a manipulated casino or more likely scam which we have to get rid of.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 01:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community

From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...

Like for example, if a casino have a community on bitcointalk, and you are a user of that casino, at any time you have an issue with that casino and the customer support is not helping, bringing such issue to their community on bitcointalk will force the casino to find solution(s) immediately so that they don't lose their other customers in the case where they are the ones at fault..

But a casino without any kind of community anyway, if as a user, you encounter any problems and the customer refuse to help you, you are absolutely helpless, and complaining on forums where the casino is not even known won't help because it does not affect the casino on their business, they probably won't see your complaints, neither would their other customers do, so certainly, they won't answer and their other customers also don't know what is going on.. So it is best to avoid such casinos in my best opinion..

This is just one out of many types of online casinos to avoid, so let's make the discussion long, what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

I tend to face this, the other way around. I usually do not use shady or new casino websites and prefer to use the most-rated ones. If you use a casino that is out there long enough it means that this is a trusted casino. So, to take matters simply, a player should always use known casinos and avoid chasing crazy offers from shady casinos.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 01:44:08 PM

what other types of online casinos do you think gamblers should avoid? You never can tell, your advice might help someone in a short of long way.

For small gamblers like me, I recommend avoiding casinos that charge high amount of miner fees for every withdrawal request. I know it's a bit obvious but there are still some casinos that try to overcharge withdrawal fees when most of the time the recommended amount is less than $1.

Quote from: piebeyb on December 04, 2022, 06:45:25 AM

if their casino supports crypto payments they should be required to be registered on this forum make ANN promote casinos on this forum and also actively create campaigns on this forum because basically it is to ensure that casino sites are really clean and not fraud, I'm more interested in casino sites that have ANN here and many active users of this forum also make long discussion in their ANN thread, it is more trusted than any other casino site promoting out there

They're free to create a thread but it doesn't have to be a requirement because a lot of gambling sites are probably not aware of the forum and there are several ANN threads that slowly became inactive like Bitsler for example.

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I avoid such casinos like the plague. If they can't be bothered to establish their online presence, why should I even go out my own way to figure out what they have to offer. I ain't one to fck around and find out, I'll just go to online casinos which established themselves in the field and are known across the industry. That will save me a lot of frustration, anxiety, and regret should this obscure casino turned out to be a scam.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on December 04, 2022, 05:14:48 AM

Well, they do not need an Online presence... for us to hold them accountable. We can use social media/forums/websites to our advantage to spam accusations against them, if there are solid evidence that they are a scam site. Wink

There are several casino review sites, where we can burn them ... and forums like this gives us a voice. (Scam accusation section) ==> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

The Online presence just leaves a "foot print" for us to follow, if we want to track them and eventually want to take it to court. Wink

Taking them to court are for those who have an enormous amount in the casino. The rest that has few can only say so much in the scam thread.
But all casinos reputable or not may topple and eventually scam especially if they are not marketing thier casino to build a bigger community.

FTX although its not a casino that has a big community full of well-known people. They turn out to be insolvent and scam.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 01:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community
From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...
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Having community is important with every possible online service that involves money. I don't use any service that doesn't have some sort of place for users to chat freely. That helps me determine that it's legit very fast. Also one good sign is having few negative comments with admin replying to them, among of hundreds positive comments from active users. That shows that they won't be trying to get rid of bad press but want to serve all of their users.

Most of the business today really needs community, mostly in those casinos. Unlike before, their customer service is enough. Now they need to have a bitcointalk thread, social media pages, and a group where users can freely say anything they want and also follow up on the tickets or issues that you've raised. Casinos or other online businesses that involve users who need to deposit money need to have a community, not just for support issues but also so that new users are aware of the problem and become more cautious..

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on December 03, 2022, 01:44:08 PM

Online Casinos Without Online Presence/Community
From my observations, I think online casinos without online presence or community of users are likely to scam any user and get away with it easily, and it doesn't matter if they have a high trust rating, this is because when they refuse to process your withdrawal and the customer support is not responding or not helping, the user in reality have no place to complain that will force the casino to pay him of lose a great number of their users if not all...
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Having community is important with every possible online service that involves money. I don't use any service that doesn't have some sort of place for users to chat freely. That helps me determine that it's legit very fast. Also one good sign is having few negative comments with admin replying to them, among of hundreds positive comments from active users. That shows that they won't be trying to get rid of bad press but want to serve all of their users.

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Quote from: piebeyb on December 04, 2022, 06:45:25 AM

if their casino supports crypto payments they should be required to be registered on this forum make ANN promote casinos on this forum and also actively create campaigns on this forum because basically it is to ensure that casino sites are really clean and not fraud, I'm more interested in casino sites that have ANN here and many active users of this forum also make long discussion in their ANN thread, it is more trusted than any other casino site promoting out there

1XBIT has an active ANN and a marketing campaign to promote their casino. I bet they also have a customer support system for their loyal users just like what the OP is asking. Does that ensure they are really clean and not fraudulent? Does that make them more trustworthy than crypto casinos with inactive ANN or without any presence here?

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