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legendary
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August 03, 2011, 12:39:33 PM
#35
(5) Still waiting for them to ask me to pay X BTC to get a UABB certified logo on my site, and then telling people that you should only trust sites with official UABB certification.
Did you think accreditation was free? Accreditation will cost you 2BTC for the first year, and 1BTC to renew every year after that. Consumers and non accredited business members needn't pay anything of course. This barely covers our cost to take the time to investigate into the businesses if you think about it though.

Any way you could figure out how to charge consumers for this instead? Maybe give the basic rating for free, but charge for details, or provide a sufficiently cheap subscription service with unlimited rating look-ups a month?

This will remove the perception of collusion between you and businesses you accredit, and will provide incentive on you to make sure you give customers good information, since any sort of fraudulent accreditation will hurt your bottom line, and customers knowing it may trust you more.
member
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August 03, 2011, 12:37:28 PM
#34


(5) Still waiting for them to ask me to pay X BTC to get a UABB certified logo on my site, and then telling people that you should only trust sites with official UABB certification.
Did you think accreditation was free? Accreditation will cost you 2BTC for the first year, and 1BTC to renew every year after that. Consumers and non accredited business members needn't pay anything of course. This barely covers our cost to take the time to investigate into the businesses if you think about it though.




My objection wasn't the idea of charging of 'accreditation'.  It was the possibility of charging for this, and then disparaging anyone who refused to pay, in effect creating an internet protection racket.

Please note I threw this out as a hypothetical, I"m not actually accusing you of having an evil master plan.

With his policy of public investigations I wouldn't rule out a protection racket at all.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
August 03, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
#33
@Matthew N. Wright
you are fucking annoying! and your posts are spam, they are all over the forum, and i don't even care about reading them anymore.
please if you really want something good to the community, STOP SPAM THE FORUM!

Point taken. Annoyance agreed. Sincerist apologies. It was a completely ill-thought out move on my part that I almost instantly regretted (I'm a spontaneous person and that is why I have such a good imagination for building things, but it REALLY screws me over sometimes too).

I am not at war with anyone here, I am at war with myself to become who I need to be, in order to be useful.

When more people start lending a hand in the forum to help change each other instead of pushing them away, more people like me with actual talents to make things will come in. Until then, I'd say I've done an outstanding job of showing my passion for Bitcoin by even STILL being on this forum at this point Cheesy



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When more people start lending a hand in the forum to help change each other instead of pushing them away...

Hence, this poll/thread. Isn't it past your bedtime?
kgo
hero member
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August 03, 2011, 12:27:48 PM
#32


(5) Still waiting for them to ask me to pay X BTC to get a UABB certified logo on my site, and then telling people that you should only trust sites with official UABB certification.
Did you think accreditation was free? Accreditation will cost you 2BTC for the first year, and 1BTC to renew every year after that. Consumers and non accredited business members needn't pay anything of course. This barely covers our cost to take the time to investigate into the businesses if you think about it though.




My objection wasn't the idea of charging of 'accreditation'.  It was the possibility of charging for this, and then disparaging anyone who refused to pay, in effect creating an internet protection racket.

Please note I threw this out as a hypothetical, I"m not actually accusing you of having an evil master plan.
legendary
Activity: 1918
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
August 03, 2011, 12:25:10 PM
#31
@Matthew N. Wright
you are fucking annoying! and your posts are spam, they are all over the forum, and i don't even care about reading them anymore.
please if you really want something good to the community, STOP SPAM THE FORUM!

I'm going to reserve any further comments toward kokjo on this thread unless they're more constructive. Thank you, again, for your input, kokjo.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
August 03, 2011, 12:19:47 PM
#30
Let me start this post by saying I am by no means passing judgement on him or his intent...

I would find it deeply and darkly amusing if the UABB guy and the MyBitCoin guy were one in the same.

Surely Mr. MBC would be keeping a low profile, but if he really had balls of steel, 'spearheading an investigation' into the crime and collecting all of the available data about it could be all kinds of useful.
I had this same thought when I saw the 20 or so posts to every mybitcoin thread on the forum...  Keep your friends close and your enemies closer right? As the person responsible, obtaining as much information about what happened as possible would be a great risk mitigation strategy...  Sort of like playing a game of poker where everyone else's cards are printed on both sides and yours are not.

Again, not passing judgement, just making a statement in regards to the quote above...

Thank you kindly, Intervex Digital, for this post. In regards to keeping your friends close (purposely excluding the second part of that cliché), the other night I spent over an hour trying to find a connection between two Bitcoin start-ups when I read this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.418710 I didn't find one but, if I had, I was prepared to go on a 1AM diatribe, outlining what I discovered.

As far as your poker analogy, when played correctly you don't need to see the other players cards to win--you know what they have. On the flip side of the (bit)coin, you don't even need to look at your cards. The reason: Poker is not a card game played with people--it's a people game played with cards. I play poker!

Thank you, again, for your fair input.
legendary
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August 03, 2011, 12:06:28 PM
#29
If he stops spamming the forums and insulting people I might give him an ear. Smiley

This. I don't need to read about it in 5,235.098 places.

I voted Holding back judgement at this time.

Did you know that a woman has 413.069 erogenous zones located over her entire body? With that said, I'm sorry for starting, yet another, thread on UABB. I just feel that this is a potential great service and would hate to see it go to the wayside. Down the road, I envision it as the utmost service available to the Bitcoin community at large.

Thank you for taking the time to express your opinion and by voting that you're holding back judgement at this time. I will easily reverse my position if I discovered that Matthew at UABB is not what he's out to be--an asset to Bitcoin.
legendary
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August 03, 2011, 11:55:23 AM
#28
Doesn't scam involve stealing money from someone? Did they ever ask for any money? I don't get it. They never did anything.. How can you classify them as fraud, scam, heroes, whatever?

Very good point, but what I can ascertain is that some in this community have a concern that Matthew at UABB may use any personal information gleaned for nefarious purposes. Valid? I'm not sure. That thought sometimes passes through my head each time I hand my Visa card over the counter at the local 7-11.



Thank you kingly for your insight, nmat.
legendary
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August 03, 2011, 11:47:34 AM
#27
member
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August 03, 2011, 11:40:41 AM
#26
I'm beginning to think that whoever wants to see Bitcoin fail - his easiest strategy might probably not be buying gazillions of GPUs but to just sow the seeds of discord within the community Sad

Just saying...

I have a feeling that GPU buying thing was something close to the Russian check cashing scam when the sender ends up footing the bill. 20,000 gpus my foot...
kgo
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August 03, 2011, 11:40:20 AM
#25
I don't think it's a scam, but:

(1) Yes, too many posts that are there just to get the name out.

(2) It appears to be a one-man operation, which is fine, but he acts like it's a multinational conglomerate with 100's of agents working on his behalf.

(3) The photo might be real, but for some reason it looks like a stock photo you'd get from one of those sites that also has customer service people with headsets, and that woman sitting indian-style in front of her laptop with her arms in the air.  If it is a real photo, it seems a bit off to get a professional photo for the forums.  If it's not, that seems suspicious, since it's not clearly an avatar.

(4) For all the talk and even glancing at the website, I still have no idea how exactly they intend to operate or how they expect to protect consumers.

(5) Still waiting for them to ask me to pay X BTC to get a UABB certified logo on my site, and then telling people that you should only trust sites with official UABB certification.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
August 03, 2011, 11:39:05 AM
#24
UABB is spam! the guy behind it may have good intentions.
but he is annoying!

Thank you kindly for your opinion, kokjo. I'll assume you voted that UABB is spam.

You hear that, Matthew? Quite coming across as so annoying. Let's see if he listens, kokjo. Thank you, again, for your comments.
sr. member
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August 03, 2011, 11:38:11 AM
#23
member
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August 03, 2011, 11:37:18 AM
#22
Doesn't scam involve stealing money from someone? Did they ever ask for any money? I don't get it. They never did anything.. How can you classify them as fraud, scam, heroes, whatever?
He did, not on wis website in his individual postings on this forum. That gives the idea of "Hey, I need money, but not right now because I have it. I'll tell when I do later on". That gives people the idea that he might really be ligit when all it really is just a way to get his talon's into his mark better.

Take a look at the description of a "Cluster B Narcissist". It seems to fit him to a T. Once these people take root in something its almost impossible to get rid of them. Best to nip them in the bud.

Symptoms:

Grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
Preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
Believes that they are "special" and unique and can only be understoody by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
Requires excessive admiration.
Has a sense of entitlement i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with their expectations.
Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve their own needs.
Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of them.
Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.
Treatment Considerations:
legendary
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Revolutionizing Brokerage of Personal Data
August 03, 2011, 11:37:12 AM
#21
I'm beginning to think that whoever wants to see Bitcoin fail - his easiest strategy might probably not be buying gazillions of GPUs but to just sow the seeds of discord within the community Sad

Just saying...
legendary
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August 03, 2011, 11:35:08 AM
#20
Thank you kindly for this insightful post, BitcoinPorn. I'll assume you voted.

Going with "?, for I'm holding back judgement at this time." for now Smiley

I look forward to your yea or nay in the future. Thank you kindly for voting.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
August 03, 2011, 11:33:25 AM
#19
I would find it deeply and darkly amusing if the UABB guy and the MyBitCoin guy were one in the same.

Surely Mr. MBC would be keeping a low profile, but if he really had balls of steel, 'spearheading an investigation' into the crime and collecting all of the available data about it could be all kinds of useful.

That's thinkin' outside the Bitcoin mining rig. That could easily be a justifiable concern. Therefore, due diligence is also warranted when it comes to a new start-up, especially when Bitcoin is concerned. Please offer any proof found to this community and, I for one, will jump on your bandwagon to help expose the fraud.

Thank you kindly for taking the time to comment and hope you voted.
legendary
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August 03, 2011, 11:31:06 AM
#18
@Matthew N. Wright
you are fucking annoying! and your posts are spam, they are all over the forum, and i don't even care about reading them anymore.
please if you really want something good to the community, STOP SPAM THE FORUM!
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
August 03, 2011, 11:30:43 AM
#17
Let me start this post by saying I am by no means passing judgement on him or his intent...

I would find it deeply and darkly amusing if the UABB guy and the MyBitCoin guy were one in the same.

Surely Mr. MBC would be keeping a low profile, but if he really had balls of steel, 'spearheading an investigation' into the crime and collecting all of the available data about it could be all kinds of useful.
I had this same thought when I saw the 20 or so posts to every mybitcoin thread on the forum...  Keep your friends close and your enemies closer right? As the person responsible, obtaining as much information about what happened as possible would be a great risk mitigation strategy...  Sort of like playing a game of poker where everyone else's cards are printed on both sides and yours are not.

Again, not passing judgement, just making a statement in regards to the quote above...
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 502
August 03, 2011, 11:27:42 AM
#16
Doesn't scam involve stealing money from someone? Did they ever ask for any money? I don't get it. They never did anything.. How can you classify them as fraud, scam, heroes, whatever?
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