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Quote from: jakdanyel on May 12, 2023, 05:21:59 PM

Rafael Leao's absence due to adductor problems in the first leg was really bad for Milan indeed. Because he is like their most card in their hand now. However Milan still should have stayed sharper than that in defense of course. Conceding 2 goals in the first 10 minutes just made the match turn into a nightmare for Milan. They couldn't even react to those goals with some answers later on.

Leao's condition is still doubtful but I hope he can recover and get ready for the second leg. Milan will really need all their attacking power in that match. There is no home-away situation of course so Milan still have a big chance to revert the current look. But they need to work really hard for that as of now because Inter wouldn't lose their advantage easily.

Milan will face a difficult match in the second leg. they might be able to work their way up to win, but qualifying would require tremendous effort. the achievable possibility is to equalize the current aggregate. and then gambling continues with which team can take advantage of the opportunities in extra rounds. or maybe it will be determined from a penalty kick.

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Quote from: sokani on May 12, 2023, 05:14:22 PM

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It's A Milan Derby, remember?

They share the same pitch, so anything can still happen in the second leg.

They managed to beat Napoli 4 goals in a Seria A match not so long ago and then followed up and eliminated them in the UEFA Champion's League after both legs. What makes you think the no sharp strikers can pull out another surprise in the second Leg?

I will wait till the final whistle to be sure AC Milan are out or not.

Like you said anything can happen in the second leg, if 4 - 0 scoreline can be overturned so why can't 2 - 0 scoreline can't be overturned. AC Milan would be disappointed by their performance that they couldn't score atleast a goal and the will be giving their all in the second leg. I don't think inter Milan would be carried away by their 2-0 win either and I see them making it to the finals.

The 2 goals can be overturned but it is not with the squad that played this midweek. The team needs to be more determined and it their hit left winger Leo will be available, it will be possible that they can overturn the result because only that guy has the ability to push the defence of the opponent. Giroud was lost in the match because Leo was not in the match it was Origi who later came in late time that made some good efforts that wanted to change the game.

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Quote from: alastantiger on May 12, 2023, 11:51:16 AM

Lemme state first that from my analysis of both teams, it will be difficult for Manchester City to win the League. And in the second leg against Real Madrid, they are going to lose. Real Madrid matches up well against them. They will be making history like they do. If they lose, their morale will be affected even their hopes of the winning the Premier League may be dashed. But then again, I do not want to overanalyze because it is a game of football and anything can happen.

I think Manchester City chances are more wide open in the second leg later because they will host the second leg, indeed Real Madrid this season they are stronger when playing away from home like they did to Chelsea and Liverpool. However, this seems to have been anticipated by Manchester City in facing Real Madrid in the decisive match. This season Manchester city hopes they can maximize the best possible opportunities in the second leg later because they have a pretty strong squad this season. Haaland should be able to make a big contribution in the second leg later because he seemed quite difficult to find his best form in the first leg.

Regarding experience, of course Real Madrid has everything, but they will also be under pressure in the second leg later because Manchester City will put out all their energy to win in the second leg.

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Rafael Leao's absence due to adductor problems in the first leg was really bad for Milan indeed. Because he is like their most card in their hand now. However Milan still should have stayed sharper than that in defense of course. Conceding 2 goals in the first 10 minutes just made the match turn into a nightmare for Milan. They couldn't even react to those goals with some answers later on.

Leao's condition is still doubtful but I hope he can recover and get ready for the second leg. Milan will really need all their attacking power in that match. There is no home-away situation of course so Milan still have a big chance to revert the current look. But they need to work really hard for that as of now because Inter wouldn't lose their advantage easily.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on May 12, 2023, 04:58:27 PM

It's A Milan Derby, remember?

They share the same pitch, so anything can still happen in the second leg.

They managed to beat Napoli 4 goals in a Seria A match not so long ago and then followed up and eliminated them in the UEFA Champion's League after both legs. What makes you think the no sharp strikers can pull out another surprise in the second Leg?

I will wait till the final whistle to be sure AC Milan are out or not.

Like you said anything can happen in the second leg, if 4 - 0 scoreline can be overturned so why can't 2 - 0 scoreline can't be overturned. AC Milan would be disappointed by their performance that they couldn't score atleast a goal and the will be giving their all in the second leg. I don't think inter Milan would be carried away by their 2-0 win either and I see them making it to the finals.

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Quote from: nurilham on May 12, 2023, 04:44:05 PM

It is very difficult to score 2 goals, AC Milan has no sharp strikers and Inter Milan defenders perform very well lately. If we consider the stats of the previous match, AC Milan players only got 2 shoot on target which means it is hard to penetrate to Inter defense zone. It will be harder if Inter Milan scores a fast goal in the next match, aggregate 3-0 will make AC Milan players frustrated. I assume Inter Milan is safe to qualify for the final,

It's A Milan Derby, remember?

They share the same pitch, so anything can still happen in the second leg.

They managed to beat Napoli 4 goals in a Seria A match not so long ago and then followed up and eliminated them in the UEFA Champion's League after both legs. What makes you think the no sharp strikers can pull out another surprise in the second Leg?

I will wait till the final whistle to be sure AC Milan are out or not.

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Quote from: baeva on May 12, 2023, 04:21:11 PM

Even if he comes back, Milan needs to score at least two and not concede, and that's just for the match to go into extra time. In general it will be difficult for both sides, Inter can adopt defensive tactics and not let Milan score, they can even afford to lose with a difference of one goal, in fact they are safe

It is very difficult to score 2 goals, AC Milan has no sharp strikers and Inter Milan defenders perform very well lately. If we consider the stats of the previous match, AC Milan players only got 2 shoot on target which means it is hard to penetrate to Inter defense zone. It will be harder if Inter Milan scores a fast goal in the next match, aggregate 3-0 will make AC Milan players frustrated. I assume Inter Milan is safe to qualify for the final, they only need to wait for Man City or Real Madrid as their opponent in the final round.

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Manchester City's defense is fine, they have good midfielders, and they also have good strikers. Every single one of those players is quality and can threaten anyone they play against including Real Madrid, so I think your opinion of Manchester City's defeat is unfounded.

Having Manchester City being able to Hold down Real Madrid on a 1:1 draw in their home ground Santiago Bernabeu, it's something to consider that City is indeed the better side, And this has given city a little bit of advantage over Madrid come 2nd game. In a generally point of view when compared the both teams strength this season, Manchester City is a better side and a complete team than Madrid. Manchester City will dominate in their second leg match because, When it comes to controlling the midfield , City does the job very well than Madrid.

I won't call it Manchester City holding Real Madrid in that game but I think because of the recent performance of both teams, Real Madrid was lucky enough because they didn't lose the first leg against Manchester City, because the Manchester City we see in this season is strong enough to beat any team easily even Real Madrid.

Real Madrid isn't appearing like they are weak against Manchester City. Even in the first leg they were formidable. If you discover the kind of energy that Vinicius Junior put into game you will understand that only him is able to change any game. He is a beast and has the spirit of the Champions League.
With the strong Real Madrid defence and how Rudiger was able to hold Haaland down shows that those guys are all prepared for the Champions League and with the experience of Modric and Tony in the midfield is an added advantage.

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Quote from: Franctoshi on May 12, 2023, 03:57:37 PM

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Manchester City's defense is fine, they have good midfielders, and they also have good strikers. Every single one of those players is quality and can threaten anyone they play against including Real Madrid, so I think your opinion of Manchester City's defeat is unfounded.

Having Manchester City being able to Hold down Real Madrid on a 1:1 draw in their home ground Santiago Bernabeu, it's something to consider that City is indeed the better side, And this has given city a little bit of advantage over Madrid come 2nd game. In a generally point of view when compared the both teams strength this season, Manchester City is a better side and a complete team than Madrid. Manchester City will dominate in their second leg match because, When it comes to controlling the midfield , City does the job very well than Madrid.

I won't call it Manchester City holding Real Madrid in that game but I think because of the recent performance of both teams, Real Madrid was lucky enough because they didn't lose the first leg against Manchester City, because the Manchester City we see in this season is strong enough to beat any team easily even Real Madrid.

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In fact, what we saw yesterday makes it clear that it seems that Milan is clearly not ready for the finals, that is, if they somehow make it to the finals (which I highly doubt), they will definitely lose it. They have serious problems in defense, or Inter has a very well built attack, because in the first half, almost every attack by Inter ended with a shot. Not always those shots were on target, but they were.

Inter Milan already have one leg in the CL final, i knew if Rafael Leao doesn't play it would be difficult for AC Milan to create chances, and that was what happened, the Portuguese superstar is so important for AC Milan, and i hope he will be fit for the return leg next week. Having said that, it is going to be a pretty difficult mountain for AC Milan to climb, to come back from two goals down means they have to be impeccable (and that's something i've not seen from them this season), i think it is Inter that would go through, chances are pretty high that they'd even win the second leg as well.

Even if he comes back, Milan needs to score at least two and not concede, and that's just for the match to go into extra time. In general it will be difficult for both sides, Inter can adopt defensive tactics and not let Milan score, they can even afford to lose with a difference of one goal, in fact they are safe

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Quote from: alastantiger on May 12, 2023, 11:51:16 AM

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After the draw in the first leg, I no longer have strong faith in Manchester City to qualify for the final. But yes, even so I still admit that Manchester City still has a chance to qualify, but at this moment I predict Manchester City will not have a big chance to beat Real Madrid.

Lemme state first that from my analysis of both teams, it will be difficult for Manchester City to win the League. And in the second leg against Real Madrid, they are going to lose. Real Madrid matches up well against them. They will be making history like they do. If they lose, their morale will be affected even their hopes of the winning the Premier League may be dashed. But then again, I do not want to overanalyze because it is a game of football and anything can happen.

I know I don't like Manchester City, but I don't like how they have been criticized unfairly in the Champions League. In the second leg, Manchester City and Real Madrid won't go easy on their selfies, and while I'm sure Gadiola is already planning some things, I'm confident that Manchester City and Real Madrid will face off to determine who will win the competition. Furthermore, because Manchester City competes in two significant divisions, Arsenal will benefit as they appear to be losing concentration in the Premier League. i really want Arsenal to win the premier league.

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Quote from: lalabotax on May 12, 2023, 03:45:57 PM

With this condition, Man City should have more advantages. They can take advantage of this opportunity to further pressure Real Madrid, moreover, the euphoria will be quite different. But again, this is not guaranteed. Because we know that Real Madrid is also a big club that is very experienced in the UCL. So, this will be the highly anticipated and unpredictable semi final match determination. Maybe this will be more exciting than the final later. Both have the same chance of winning, especially with the 1-1 draw in the first leg yesterday.

In theory, Man City has the advantage for Leg 2 because they will play at home. But since Real Madrid always has a winning mentality and never gives up to win the match, playing away isn't a big problem for them. I assume, playing away even makes them more motivated, they can surprise Man City at their home. 1-1 is not a bad aggregate for Real Madrid, no team that leads the aggregate yet. So, Real Madrid still has a high spirit to win the next match and qualify for the final round. Real Madrid is 100% focused on UCL, they don't care about the chance of winning the La Liga trophy anymore.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on May 12, 2023, 12:17:45 PM

Manchester City's defense is fine, they have good midfielders, and they also have good strikers. Every single one of those players is quality and can threaten anyone they play against including Real Madrid, so I think your opinion of Manchester City's defeat is unfounded.

Having Manchester City being able to Hold down Real Madrid on a 1:1 draw in their home ground Santiago Bernabeu, it's something to consider that City is indeed the better side, And this has given city a little bit of advantage over Madrid come 2nd game. In a generally point of view when compared the both teams strength this season, Manchester City is a better side and a complete team than Madrid. Manchester City will dominate in their second leg match because, When it comes to controlling the midfield , City does the job very well than Madrid.

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After the draw in the first leg, I no longer have strong faith in Manchester City to qualify for the final. But yes, even so I still admit that Manchester City still has a chance to qualify, but at this moment I predict Manchester City will not have a big chance to beat Real Madrid.

Lemme state first that from my analysis of both teams, it will be difficult for Manchester City to win the League. And in the second leg against Real Madrid, they are going to lose. Real Madrid matches up well against them. They will be making history like they do. If they lose, their morale will be affected even their hopes of the winning the Premier League may be dashed. But then again, I do not want to overanalyze because it is a game of football and anything can happen.

No, in my opinion Manchester City also deserves to win the Champions League even though Real Madrid has a lot of experience but look at the performance of Manchester City players who are very strong who are able to maintain the score in the first leg and in the English league Manchester City has very good achievements so that the chances of winning in the match the final champion is very big.

Madrid's defense, which does not let Haaland breathe and makes a great area defense, deserves a separate congratulations. Also, it is absolutely ridiculous that Camavinga gave this performance at this age. A player who matures football so early is very valuable. He played in the midfield, became his backbone, scored goals from far away, threw a long ball into the exact spot, he has fine wrist movements and fine dribbles. Due to the lack of team in the last matches, he played left-back, neither in offense nor in defense, he never fails, even better than Mendy. This has been a really great football player and this kid is going to be even better. He knows football very well. From Vini's great performance, De Bruyne-Courtois shootout, Carvajal-Grealish rivalry, Camavinga's great defensive performance it was a great match. Although City has the advantage in Etihad, they are against Real Madrid. It will not be easy.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on May 12, 2023, 03:34:42 PM

With the home advantage, it would be interesting to see what Manchester City could come up with and surely, they've got something prepared to win this round.

With this condition, Man City should have more advantages. They can take advantage of this opportunity to further pressure Real Madrid, moreover, the euphoria will be quite different. But again, this is not guaranteed. Because we know that Real Madrid is also a big club that is very experienced in the UCL. So, this will be the highly anticipated and unpredictable semi final match determination. Maybe this will be more exciting than the final later. Both have the same chance of winning, especially with the 1-1 draw in the first leg yesterday.

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Quote from: sana54210 on May 12, 2023, 03:19:10 PM

I think when you are talking about the team that has more UCL titles than anyone else and double the amount of closest team to them, do not require "even great coach Pep" at the front of it. Everyone in the world respects them that is true and Real could be great at UCL even on their worst season.

That how dangerous Real Madrid is in the UCL. You could always find them coming up with an incredible performance even with them playing very badly in there local league.
At the time, they seem to be at disadvantage haven't drawn there first leg with Manchester City and worth a goal it was for De Bruyne. Almost the same distance as was the Vini Jnr goal and with a lit of power as well. That tells the recognition of the history shared between these two as just a year ago, they @Manchester City got eliminated by Real Madrid in what one could have said to be there best chance.

With the home advantage, it would be interesting to see what Manchester City could come up with and surely, they've got something prepared to win this round.

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Quote from: rendravolt on May 12, 2023, 05:00:45 AM

Even the coach Pep Guardiola has great respect for Real Madrid because he knows that his opponent is not an arbitrary team and always has a history in this highest European competition. We can see in the first leg when Manchester City had an away match against Real Madrid, there Pep Guardiola did not replace a single player in the second half, even though it was already seen that several of his players were already experiencing fatigue, but Pep Guardiola still forced his players to survive until the match was over. It was so clear that Pep Guardiola was very wary of what Real Madrid would do if he changed any of his players and he didn't want that to happen, luckily they held on to a draw.

The second leg will be a proving ground for these two teams, but Manchester City is still the favorite to qualify for the final round, while Real Madrid, as usual, is not the favourite. I think Real Madrid will still qualify for the final even if it is an away game because they don't differentiate anywhere, as long as they have 90 minutes they will do everything to win.

I think when you are talking about the team that has more UCL titles than anyone else and double the amount of closest team to them, do not require "even great coach Pep" at the front of it. Everyone in the world respects them that is true and Real could be great at UCL even on their worst season.

But it is true that City will have an advantage at home game, they got a 1-1 tie at Madrid, so it's all come down to Manchester, we are going to see a game where they are going to be aware of what Real stored for them. Rudiger defended Haaland very tightly, but that comes with a cost, if you keep doing that then as soon as Haaland moves out of the way for his teammates, Rudiger must too, that leaves the defense one man down, it's easy change that they could do, and even did for the goal they had.

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Milan seems to have failed to condition the player's mentality. Within fifteen minutes they were two goals behind. Milan started nervously so their defense was quite poor. That was evident after two goals Milan seemed to realise and no goals were made. In addition, there are indeed some Inter players who do perform well. Alessandro Bastoni is on full display making it difficult for Milan to make goals, even Bastoni often helps the attack. Calhanoglu, Mkhitaryan and Dzeko also performed well, they became players that I consider to be playing well. But the opportunity for Milan has not been exhausted, there is still a second leg. They should have learned from the first leg.

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Man City - Real Madrid got everything open with a simple 1-1

Manchester City in this case remain the favorites to be able to step both their feet into the final, this is because they will act as hosts in the decisive match of the second leg later. But on the other hand Real Madrid is a club that cannot be underestimated even though this is their home match, because we know their history in the second leg match, in the first leg they lost, but when playing in the second leg they seem to want to show that they are the masters of the Champions League with the surprise surprise they did. It's not easy to predict this game, even though we know now many people choose Manchester City.

I personally would also favor Manchester City in the second leg of the Champions League semi-final against Real Madrid. But even so, I'm also not really sure about the superiority of Manchester City, which will host the second leg later. Because Real Madrid does have a different mentality from other teams. They will literally fight to the last second. Even last season Manchester City had to swallow a very bitter defeat because Real Madrid managed to turn things around in the last minutes in the second leg of last season's semi-finals.

But I really hope that at least for this season I want to see Manchester City finally able to stand in the final round and lift the trophy for the first time. Because there have been too many hard struggles for them to run aground in the middle of the road. This season even I see Manchester City have a better level of play than last season.

That is still quite reasonable and acceptable because indeed, seeing from the conditions, it is certain that Manchester City will become the favorites again, especially in this case they will be playing at home now.
On the other hand, their home matches for the Champions League are still well maintained because when they are at the Etihad they always win and this can be seen in the few matches they have played, especially in the Champions League.
But as you said, Mental clearly has an effect here and of course Madrid can still be hoped for even though considering the current conditions it is clear that it is still a little more difficult for Madrid.

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After the draw in the first leg, I no longer have strong faith in Manchester City to qualify for the final. But yes, even so I still admit that Manchester City still has a chance to qualify, but at this moment I predict Manchester City will not have a big chance to beat Real Madrid.

Lemme state first that from my analysis of both teams, it will be difficult for Manchester City to win the League. And in the second leg against Real Madrid, they are going to lose. Real Madrid matches up well against them. They will be making history like they do. If they lose, their morale will be affected even their hopes of the winning the Premier League may be dashed. But then again, I do not want to overanalyze because it is a game of football and anything can happen.

No, in my opinion Manchester City also deserves to win the Champions League even though Real Madrid has a lot of experience but look at the performance of Manchester City players who are very strong who are able to maintain the score in the first leg and in the English league Manchester City has very good achievements so that the chances of winning in the match the final champion is very big.

Last time the experience decided this duel. Man City dominated last year at home and looked like Real Madrid cant turn it around and out of nowhere they won the match. So Man City needs to be cautious of those counter-attacks from Real Madrid that are really deadly.

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