UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 243.

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Quote from: zuzie on April 13, 2023, 01:38:14 PM

Basically, this result was quite surprising, even one week before the quarter-final match, the two Milan and Napoli teams already had a trial match in the League and the result is that Milan came out winner. And yesterday Milan win again from Napoli, even though it was only a narrow win but this will be even more exciting because the 2nd match will take place at home to Napoli
I still can't believe that Napoli lost to Milan in this important match, but that's a reality that must be accepted

Napoli was very favored at first. but when the news came that Osimhen had not recovered from his injury and could not play in the first leg of the quarter-finals yesterday, I felt that Napoli's defeat was not too surprising. because well, even in Serie A, Napoli lost to Milan when Napoli played without Osimhen. I hope that in the second leg Osimhen has recovered and can play for Napoli.

but I was more surprised by the results of Benfica vs Inter Milan. Benfica has been clearly favored for a long time. but it seems that Inter Milan was able to win quite convincingly in the first leg.

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Well this finally really happened because indeed bringing Napoli without Osimhen seems to be very difficult now.
On the other hand for the second half they also have to lose Anguissa in midfield which is clearly going to be another burden for them.

Without Osimhen, Napoli lost half of their attacking power and Kravatskhelia lost his most favorite team-mate. Napoli tried to find an equalizer but Maignan again saved AC Milan and they again won over Napoli just within a few days.

With this win at home and a big win at Naples days ago in Serie A, AC Milan will move to Naples for a second leg with very strong confidence that they will have a first semi final in Champions League after about one decade. Napoli in their side, must pray themselves that Osimhen will be ready for that match. As they will need their best striker to find a win at home and keep up their hope to be one of four clubs in semi finals.

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There is nothing wrong with Napoli's game because they do it as usual, it's just that the difference in this match is that they still need a finisher who is hungry for goals and when Osimhen is not in the squad, they lose a frightening finisher in attack who makes their attacks and opportunities wasted.

Maignan brought AC Milan to a win with his excellent saves and he will be one of biggest hopes of AC Milan at Naples.

Napoli's gotta put in some serious grind if they wanna strut into the semis. No doubt, Milan's defense is a tough nut to crack, but I'm vibin' with Napoli's power to rally. They gotta keep their eyes on the prize and not stress too much about Milan.

Hold up, though, let's flip the script and get critical for a sec. Is it really just about missing Osimhen, or are we dealing with some deeper drama? And how can Napoli level up to squash these probs and elevate their play? These are the kinda mind-benders we oughta tackle if we're lookin' to cheer our squads to the top.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on April 13, 2023, 08:24:25 AM

Now what to say about Chelsea? because of the fact that they really can't be relied on as a team this season. I'm not surprised by this result, because from the start Chelsea was not favored and it was only hope for them to make a surprise in the match. An aggregate of 2 goals is difficult for them in the second leg later. But like what they did with Borussia Dortmund, so I still give them a bit of hope.

Chelsea's 2 goals loss to Real Madrid will now make Chelsea seat up in the premier league since they have felt hesitant to win matches in the premier league and have only been hoping to perform better in championship league matches by reaching the quarterfinals. Now they don't have a lot of hope in their champions league encounter against Real Madrid because they can't effectively score two goals against Real Madrid in the return leg without Real Madrid also scoring a goal at least before the game is through.

Before you start giving Chelsea hope. Don't forget that Real Madrid is not Borussia Dortmund. They can't do the same mistake they did to lose to Chelsea

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I expected Real Madrid to beat Chelsea even before the game because Chelsea have not been in good form before the game and it is no shocking display for Real Madrid judging from how well they have been performing in the Champions league in the past years, Chelsea were indeed lucky to have conceded just two goals in the match.

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But still Chelsea can't improve their game that doesn't change at all, so I think Chelsea will still be eliminated later because I doubt how Chelsea's game is still not impressive in any match.

They've certainly had a difficult time since Tuchel's sacking and with Potter not bringing any better and also with Lampard I've had to say this is a little skeptical on my part so Chelsea just need a change of management.

A lot of things have changed at Chelsea since Todd Boehly acquired Chelsea from Roman Abramovich.
Chelsea is a strong team that has made many achievements, but they will not be as great as before if they are not wise in management. Of course I agree that a good coach is the most important thing to support a good team performance, but with Graham Potter and Lampard Chelsea will not be fine.

Luis Enrique and Julian Nagelsmann should be one of the good candidates for a long term Chelsea coach, but I would probably agree if Chelsea were coached by Luis Enrique. But let's see who will be the next Chelsea coach, both great and prestigious.

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About the second leg later, I don't know what will happen even though playing on their own sometimes doesn't imply they will win, even if you say a draw is good enough, I myself still can't say it's good.

Chelsea's chances of qualifying for the semi-finals are very slim, but the decision must be made within 90 minutes. Lampard is still struggling to find solutions in striker of Chelsea in his last 2 matches, but I think he will make some changes up striker in the second leg.

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I was pretty irritated reading the comments of the head coach of Napoli, how can he say they're a better side without Victor Oshime?! Oshime has been the best of the best this season for Napoli, definitely he's absence has already been felteand witnessed.
Ac Milan has got work to do at the Diego Maradona Stadium next week, when they had th chance they should have made it two to three goals at home.

I don't even think Frank Lampard is in charge of that selection yesterday, it's Todd Boehly doing all that underground. Abrahimovich selling Chelsea has got to be one of the wrongs that need be righted.

Are you a Napoli fan, my friend? You seem to be quite emotional. I'm curious because, in the last five matches between Napoli and Milan, Milan has won three, even with Osimhen playing in those matches. While Osimhen may be a strong player and currently leading the Serie A, it doesn't necessarily mean that the Manager's statement was incorrect, every team should strive for independence and not rely too heavily on any one player, when the dependent team loses that player, it can become a probelm and even with Osimhen present, Napoli could still have lost yesterday because Milan is an experienced team.

Basically, this result was quite surprising, even one week before the quarter-final match, the two Milan and Napoli teams already had a trial match in the League and the result is that Milan came out winner. And yesterday Milan win again from Napoli, even though it was only a narrow win but this will be even more exciting because the 2nd match will take place at home to Napoli
I still can't believe that Napoli lost to Milan in this important match, but that's a reality that must be accepted

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Real Madrid managed to win the match with a score of 2-0 and that was enough for them to look into the second leg later and now the possibility for Real Madrid to step into the semifinals of the Champions League this season is quite large.
after seeing the Real Madrid vs Chelsea match in the first leg I think it is very possible for Real Madrid to be able to win again in the second leg, there really is a very significant difference in team quality between these two teams, apart from the winning results Real Madrid were only able to win 2 goals, but I think Chelsea don't have the proper quality to be able to match Real Madrid's game.

Chelsea's appearance in that match was really disappointing, Lampard had so much trouble dealing with Ancelotti's strategy and Chelsea also had weaknesses in attack, where several opportunities that should have been goals were wasted. The red card received by Ben Chilwell also had an influence on the stability of the match, where Chelsea players found it increasingly difficult to keep up with Real Madrid.

I also highlighted Real Madrid's performance in that match, where Ancelotti's men did not play as usual. If you pay attention, Real Madrid should have won more than 2-0 with Chelsea's not-so-good performance. Chelsea's chances will now be much more difficult when playing the second leg even though they are playing at home.

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From the start, Chelsea really wasn't favored in this match, Chelsea this season is in pretty bad performance with all the problems that this team is currently facing and they have just changed coaches.
of course against a team like Real Madrid it will be very difficult for them, this defeat is very reasonable in my opinion and Real Madrid is now almost certain to qualify for the semifinals.

Right, we all know that. so, it is only natural that Madrid can win easily when they host the match against Chelsea. actually, Chelsea had a good chance in the early minutes, unfortunately they were not able to use it properly. well, now we have seen that what Lampard did, did not have a positive impact. in fact, I would prefer to say that Chelsea were better under Bruno Saltor. it's just that their problem lies with the front-line players. as we know, that Chelsea's forward players are not able to give their best game. in particular, Kai Havertz. well, what can you say, that Chelsea are now under the tutelage of Frank Lampard. The question is, can they turn things around when playing at home. it seems, highly doubtful.

Quote from: barisbilgili on April 13, 2023, 12:27:15 PM

I am actually interested in the AC Milan vs Napoli match, which is quite an interesting match I think and the two teams have almost the same quality.
and losing 1 goal for Napoli is not a difficult thing to be able to turn things around in the second leg later.

For this fight, according to my predictions and expectations. that AC Milan, won the match over Napoli. because, from my point of view, Napoli is too dependent on one star. yes, without Osimhen, they struggle to score goals. in the second leg later, Napoli has the potential to turn things around. it's just that if Osimhen is still injured it will be a loss for them.

I don't think we can have any exact information about the situation of Victor Osimhen in Napoli for the next game they are going to face AC Milan, I thought he can be ready for the second leg because he even had the chance to play for the first leg against AC Milan but if Osimhen does not play for his team another time against Ac Milan I can say Ac Milan was really lucky because they are playing against Napoli while they don't have their most effective player.

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Even though Chelsea lost, but I can still appreciate Chelsea because Chelsea managed to only lose by 2-0, even though Chelsea also played with only 10 players from the 59th minute. So yes, even though Chelsea lost, but I can't say that it was a bad result too, because considering the situation and conditions experienced by Chelsea at this moment too.

So, it would be pretty good if Chelsea didn't concede more goals but yes, after all Chelsea have no chance of beating Real Madrid in this moment. So, when Chelsea can keep Real Madrid from not scoring too many goals, then I think that's enough for Chelsea.

But still Chelsea can't improve their game that doesn't change at all, so I think Chelsea will still be eliminated later because I doubt how Chelsea's game is still not impressive in any match.

They've certainly had a difficult time since Tuchel's sacking and with Potter not bringing any better and also with Lampard I've had to say this is a little skeptical on my part so Chelsea just need a change of management.

About the second leg later, I don't know what will happen even though playing on their own sometimes doesn't imply they will win, even if you say a draw is good enough, I myself still can't say it's good.

By the way, I'm not saying a draw for Chelsea, but I mean Chelsea held back enough to not lose by a higher score. Because, losing 2-0, for me it's still a good result for Chelsea when the team's situation is chaotic, so it's not about a draw. Also, I have already said that there is no chance for Chelsea in the Champions League, because the quality of Chelsea at the moment is very destroyed.

So yes, of course Chelsea will be eliminated anyway, because Lampard is not a solution to get Chelsea back up. But apart from Chelsea, at least for the first leg of this quarter-final I was only surprised by Benfica and also Napoli, because both of them lost and couldn't get a goal back. Of course, that was an result that shouldn't have happened. But yes, in football anything can happen, but not about Chelsea. Cheesy

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Quote from: barisbilgili on April 13, 2023, 12:27:15 PM

From the start, Chelsea really wasn't favored in this match, Chelsea this season is in pretty bad performance with all the problems that this team is currently facing and they have just changed coaches.
of course against a team like Real Madrid it will be very difficult for them, this defeat is very reasonable in my opinion and Real Madrid is now almost certain to qualify for the semifinals.

Right, we all know that. so, it is only natural that Madrid can win easily when they host the match against Chelsea. actually, Chelsea had a good chance in the early minutes, unfortunately they were not able to use it properly. well, now we have seen that what Lampard did, did not have a positive impact. in fact, I would prefer to say that Chelsea were better under Bruno Saltor. it's just that their problem lies with the front-line players. as we know, that Chelsea's forward players are not able to give their best game. in particular, Kai Havertz. well, what can you say, that Chelsea are now under the tutelage of Frank Lampard. The question is, can they turn things around when playing at home. it seems, highly doubtful.

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I am actually interested in the AC Milan vs Napoli match, which is quite an interesting match I think and the two teams have almost the same quality.
and losing 1 goal for Napoli is not a difficult thing to be able to turn things around in the second leg later.

For this fight, according to my predictions and expectations. that AC Milan, won the match over Napoli. because, from my point of view, Napoli is too dependent on one star. yes, without Osimhen, they struggle to score goals. in the second leg later, Napoli has the potential to turn things around. it's just that if Osimhen is still injured it will be a loss for them.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on April 13, 2023, 12:34:23 PM

Napoli will do a great match next Tuesday, it was really unlucky yesterday evening, also without any attacker he has made more attempt than Milan. I really hope that Osimhen will recover to play and finally beat Milan. At

the end Results of yesterday evening wasn't so correct, Napoli deserved at least 1 goal (Maignan has made many miracles Grin

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Napoli did their best in the first leg even though they lost by 1 goal but that was good enough for them especially after Napoli played with 10 men in the last 15 minutes before the game ended.
with this result it is very possible for Napoli to turn things around during the second leg later which will be played at Napoli's stable.

if you look at this match, indeed Napoli was a little unlucky after the opportunities they created failed to become goals and I think the factor of Osimhen's absence was very influential and I also hope for the same thing that he can return in the second leg later.

even though I'm not a fan of Napoli but I expect a lot from the Napoli team this season, I think they deserve more for the fantastic season they've been through, compared to AC Milan they deserve more to qualify for the semifinals and I'm very optimistic they will be able to reverse situation in the second leg later.

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Quote from: hahay on April 13, 2023, 11:27:07 AM

Even though Chelsea lost, but I can still appreciate Chelsea because Chelsea managed to only lose by 2-0, even though Chelsea also played with only 10 players from the 59th minute. So yes, even though Chelsea lost, but I can't say that it was a bad result too, because considering the situation and conditions experienced by Chelsea at this moment too.

So, it would be pretty good if Chelsea didn't concede more goals but yes, after all Chelsea have no chance of beating Real Madrid in this moment. So, when Chelsea can keep Real Madrid from not scoring too many goals, then I think that's enough for Chelsea.

But still Chelsea can't improve their game that doesn't change at all, so I think Chelsea will still be eliminated later because I doubt how Chelsea's game is still not impressive in any match.

They've certainly had a difficult time since Tuchel's sacking and with Potter not bringing any better and also with Lampard I've had to say this is a little skeptical on my part so Chelsea just need a change of management.

About the second leg later, I don't know what will happen even though playing on their own sometimes doesn't imply they will win, even if you say a draw is good enough, I myself still can't say it's good.

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Quote from: yayayo on April 13, 2023, 12:34:02 PM

In most games, the cards seem to be shuffled, especially in Tuesday's games. Inter Milan and Manchester City are both 99% sure of the semi-finals. Real Madrid could still have a hard time. Chelsea didn't play great but had huge chances to score a goal. Then you see that Chelsea does not have a real striker like Real Madrid does. Real Madrid didn't play very well either, but I think they will play better next week. I am curious how Napoli will recover from the 1-0 defeat in Milan. That is already the 2nd defeat against AC Milan in a few weeks. What does that do to the confidence of this team?

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Indeed, sometimes the cards are dealt with a twist of fate, particularly in games like Tuesday's. Inter Milan and Manchester City may be 99% locked for semi-finals, but football's unpredictability keeps us guessing. Real Madrid may face a challenge, but with their stellar squad, I foresee a strong comeback next week.

As for Chelsea, sure, they lack a powerhouse striker like Real Madrid's, but they're still a force to be reckoned with. Their near-scoring opportunities prove they've got potential. And who knows, they might just shock us all and emerge victorious.

Regarding Napoli, recovering from a loss is brutal, especially when it's déjà vu against the same team. But I believe in their ability to rebound and reclaim their mojo. It boils down to their mindset and the next steps they take.

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Real Madrid managed to win the match with a score of 2-0 and that was enough for them to look into the second leg later and now the possibility for Real Madrid to step into the semifinals of the Champions League this season is quite large.
after seeing the Real Madrid vs Chelsea match in the first leg I think it is very possible for Real Madrid to be able to win again in the second leg, there really is a very significant difference in team quality between these two teams, apart from the winning results Real Madrid were only able to win 2 goals, but I think Chelsea don't have the proper quality to be able to match Real Madrid's game.

From the start, Chelsea really wasn't favored in this match, Chelsea this season is in pretty bad performance with all the problems that this team is currently facing and they have just changed coaches.
of course against a team like Real Madrid it will be very difficult for them, this defeat is very reasonable in my opinion and Real Madrid is now almost certain to qualify for the semifinals.

I am actually interested in the AC Milan vs Napoli match, which is quite an interesting match I think and the two teams have almost the same quality.
and losing 1 goal for Napoli is not a difficult thing to be able to turn things around in the second leg later.

Napoli will do a great match next Tuesday, it was really unlucky yesterday evening, also without any attacker he has made more attempt than Milan. I really hope that Osimhen will recover to play and finally beat Milan. At

the end Results of yesterday evening wasn't so correct, Napoli deserved at least 1 goal (Maignan has made many miracles Grin

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In most games, the cards seem to be shuffled, especially in Tuesday's games. Inter Milan and Manchester City are both 99% sure of the semi-finals. Real Madrid could still have a hard time. Chelsea didn't play great but had huge chances to score a goal. Then you see that Chelsea does not have a real striker like Real Madrid does. Real Madrid didn't play very well either, but I think they will play better next week. I am curious how Napoli will recover from the 1-0 defeat in Milan. That is already the 2nd defeat against AC Milan in a few weeks. What does that do to the confidence of this team?

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Now, Chelsea's chances of advancing to the semifinals are already small despite the 2nd leg at Stamford Bridge.

Chelsea actually played not too bad.
Take a look when Kante managed to snatch the ball from Modric's feet, Kante didn't hold the ball for long and immediately passed it to Joao Felix who was free-standing, but Felix hesitated to shoot when he was in a one-on-one position with Courtuis.
Not long after, Chelsea immediately conceded through Benzema's feet in the 21st minute using Vinicius' pass.

I think Chelsea's problem lies in attack. Evidenced by the statistics on the number of shoots against Real Madrid.
After Chilwell received a red card penalty, they were clearly having trouble managing the game.

Kante played really good for me in this match and gaved a boost to Chelsea but it wasnt enough. Chelsea has only chance to win something is in champions league and they are too far now. With how bad they are playing i dont see them even drawing the match against Real Madrid.

I would say yes because throughout the match it was true when compared to Real Madrid.
When someone asks where Chelsea's shortcomings are against Real Madrid, especially in terms of the players they have, the answer is that the players in the line-up are all great players, even if the quality is the same for both teams.

Regarding Kante, he is indeed a player who looks different from other players. He's a hard worker, a fighter and he's constantly running to find space to make things easier for the other players. Even though he just returned to the squad after a long injury.

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Real Madrid managed to win the match with a score of 2-0 and that was enough for them to look into the second leg later and now the possibility for Real Madrid to step into the semifinals of the Champions League this season is quite large.
after seeing the Real Madrid vs Chelsea match in the first leg I think it is very possible for Real Madrid to be able to win again in the second leg, there really is a very significant difference in team quality between these two teams, apart from the winning results Real Madrid were only able to win 2 goals, but I think Chelsea don't have the proper quality to be able to match Real Madrid's game.

From the start, Chelsea really wasn't favored in this match, Chelsea this season is in pretty bad performance with all the problems that this team is currently facing and they have just changed coaches.
of course against a team like Real Madrid it will be very difficult for them, this defeat is very reasonable in my opinion and Real Madrid is now almost certain to qualify for the semifinals.

I am actually interested in the AC Milan vs Napoli match, which is quite an interesting match I think and the two teams have almost the same quality.
and losing 1 goal for Napoli is not a difficult thing to be able to turn things around in the second leg later.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on April 13, 2023, 09:08:32 AM

I was pretty irritated reading the comments of the head coach of Napoli, how can he say they're a better side without Victor Oshime?! Oshime has been the best of the best this season for Napoli, definitely he's absence has already been felteand witnessed.
Ac Milan has got work to do at the Diego Maradona Stadium next week, when they had th chance they should have made it two to three goals at home.

I don't even think Frank Lampard is in charge of that selection yesterday, it's Todd Boehly doing all that underground. Abrahimovich selling Chelsea has got to be one of the wrongs that need be righted.

Are you a Napoli fan, my friend? You seem to be quite emotional. I'm curious because, in the last five matches between Napoli and Milan, Milan has won three, even with Osimhen playing in those matches. While Osimhen may be a strong player and currently leading the Serie A, it doesn't necessarily mean that the Manager's statement was incorrect, every team should strive for independence and not rely too heavily on any one player, when the dependent team loses that player, it can become a probelm and even with Osimhen present, Napoli could still have lost yesterday because Milan is an experienced team.

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Lampard has given his best for Chelsea's players, I don't know what all these bad things are, for sure Lampard has to be tougher on his players.

Lampard even seems clueless how to put this team together, they lack goal scorers, in their game against Real Madrid, Haverts could have been in the starting and not Sterling.

Lampard is definitely doing his best with the club but to be fair what he said is right. There is a trouble with confidence in the team, the team played so bad that I have talked about this before, they do not think that they are as good as they are. They think they are worse, but in reality if they played like they are amazing players which they are, then they would have been doing a lot better which would be a lot better.

I personally hope that Lampard could change that, it's not a tactical issue, it's not anything else, it's a psychological issue and I feel like that would happen when you show the players how great they could be, just prove them that they are great and the team will end up playing a lot better for sure.

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Quote from: Asiska02 on April 13, 2023, 09:18:16 AM

Chelsea gave it their all in the match, but it wasn't enough to earn them a victory over Real Madrid. When playing against a team like Madrid, you don't want them to get too comfortable with the ball and have a lot of possession; if they do, they can easily break through your defense and win..

Chelsea will try their best to do a come back in the second leg of the game but that won’t be easy for them even though they’ll be playing in Stamford Bridge in the second leg. Most champions league games by Madrid in the knockout stage does not necessarily give them disadvantage even when they play outside their stadium. They could still get a win at Stamford Bridge again.

Now Chelsea's victory in the return game is estimated at about 35%, but as you understand, just winning will not be enough. To survive and go into extra time, Chelsea need to win by two goals. Overall, Chelsea's chances are clearly low:

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