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Quote from: hyudien on June 07, 2023, 08:46:51 AM

Of course, Haaland and Ronaldo cannot be compared at the moment, but such a performance of Haaland at this age caused him to be compared with Ronaldo. There is still no such good striker in the Premier league. At his age, Ronaldo hadn't scored this many goals in the Premier League. He has an excellent career now, but if he doesn't suffer a serious injury, it could be one for Haaland.

No doubt with Haaland performance in this season and success made new record become top scorer by scoring 36 goals in Primer League, but can't comparison his achivement with Cristiano Ronaldo have won 5 UEFA Champion League tittle with two difference teams. Lets waiting with final match result how possibility for Haaland success get first Champion League tittle or not before talking more about what achievement from Haaland and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Comparing something that is not suitable to be compared. Haaland and Ronaldo are so different that even I think you are quite ridiculous when you say 2 people with the status that cannot be compared in any way. The difference in era and age of the two is also very far. Haaland has just started his career in football and still can't match Ronaldo's record when it comes to winning trophies.
So there's nothing to compare the two. If you really want to compare Haaland, you have to take players at least with current playing status and at the same era as Vini Jr, Mbappe, Neymar, Rashford, and Osimhen, then that would make quite a lot of sense.

Ronaldo has proven his capacity in football, he is one of the legends who will always be remembered for all time. Haaland is also good but at the moment it's difficult to compare him to CR7. The Manchester City striker still has a long way to go to prove that by chasing various titles at his club or individual level.

Haaland and Ronaldo are of course players from different generations, I also think that it is not right to be able to compare the greatness of the two. Not only with Ronaldo, Haaland also doesn't deserve to be compared to other legendary players.

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No doubt with Haaland performance in this season and success made new record become top scorer by scoring 36 goals in Primer League, but can't comparison his achivement with Cristiano Ronaldo have won 5 UEFA Champion League tittle with two difference teams. Lets waiting with final match result how possibility for Haaland success get first Champion League tittle or not before talking more about what achievement from Haaland and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Comparing something that is not suitable to be compared. Haaland and Ronaldo are so different that even I think you are quite ridiculous when you say 2 people with the status that cannot be compared in any way. The difference in era and age of the two is also very far. Haaland has just started his career in football and still can't match Ronaldo's record when it comes to winning trophies.
So there's nothing to compare the two. If you really want to compare Haaland, you have to take players at least with current playing status and at the same era as Vini Jr, Mbappe, Neymar, Rashford, and Osimhen, then that would make quite a lot of sense.

It's too far to compare the two, and why does it have to be Haaland vs Ronaldo as the comparison, while there are players who are the same age as Haaland and that doesn't really match, especially since this comparison is too different.

Haaland is currently only 22 years old wait for him to be 30 years old and what trophies he will win then will be a very fair comparison but just starting at an easy age then comparing then it doesn't make sense I will believe your words.

When Haaland is paired with Mbappe, who is relatively close in age, I believe and will not decide now as a great player, they are just starting their careers and are now at their onfire age.

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Of course, Haaland and Ronaldo cannot be compared at the moment, but such a performance of Haaland at this age caused him to be compared with Ronaldo. There is still no such good striker in the Premier league. At his age, Ronaldo hadn't scored this many goals in the Premier League. He has an excellent career now, but if he doesn't suffer a serious injury, it could be one for Haaland.

No doubt with Haaland performance in this season and success made new record become top scorer by scoring 36 goals in Primer League, but can't comparison his achivement with Cristiano Ronaldo have won 5 UEFA Champion League tittle with two difference teams. Lets waiting with final match result how possibility for Haaland success get first Champion League tittle or not before talking more about what achievement from Haaland and Cristiano Ronaldo.

Comparing something that is not suitable to be compared. Haaland and Ronaldo are so different that even I think you are quite ridiculous when you say 2 people with the status that cannot be compared in any way. The difference in era and age of the two is also very far. Haaland has just started his career in football and still can't match Ronaldo's record when it comes to winning trophies.
So there's nothing to compare the two. If you really want to compare Haaland, you have to take players at least with current playing status and at the same era as Vini Jr, Mbappe, Neymar, Rashford, and Osimhen, then that would make quite a lot of sense.

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Of course, Haaland and Ronaldo cannot be compared at the moment, but such a performance of Haaland at this age caused him to be compared with Ronaldo. There is still no such good striker in the Premier league. At his age, Ronaldo hadn't scored this many goals in the Premier League. He has an excellent career now, but if he doesn't suffer a serious injury, it could be one for Haaland.

No doubt with Haaland performance in this season and success made new record become top scorer by scoring 36 goals in Primer League, but can't comparison his achivement with Cristiano Ronaldo have won 5 UEFA Champion League tittle with two difference teams. Lets waiting with final match result how possibility for Haaland success get first Champion League tittle or not before talking more about what achievement from Haaland and Cristiano Ronaldo.

But I sure with Haaland has consistent performance and scoring goals on every games has chance for him stopping with Ronaldo achievement, due still on young age any possibilities or achievement from Haland and waiting right time for Haaland how to get more trophies than Ronaldo or Messi at the future.

The starting position of these two players has also shown a difference, Erling Haaland was a pure striker from the start of his career, while Cristiano Ronaldo started his career as a winger, from there we have also started to find very significant differences. I personally don't agree if anyone compares players, whoever it is, because for me all players have their own strengths and weaknesses. But what I want to emphasize here is whether Halaand is able to maintain his game like Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi, because I often see players who lose their touch, even though they played very well before.

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I believe that any comparison bade between Messi and Ronaldo and other players is prone to falling short of many things. De Bruyne is a totally different type of player whereas a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make sense at some point. But Messi is a category of its own. He has midfielder qualities as much as he has striker qualities and free kick qualities and assisting qualities. Ronaldo was a goal machine, but he never contributed to the game besides the result. He wasn't someone who also tried to pass the ball perfectly in order to make other players score. De Bruyne isn't the typical goal scorer, but is able to score important ones and probably one of the best conductors the game has seen. Haaland will need to confirm his performances for several years, but he is on a great way to stand up to a lot of comparisons.

I don’t think a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make any sense. At least not now nor in the nearest future. Ronaldo is a goal scorer. You mentioned he never contributed to the game besides the results. If I may remind you, the result is majorly what matters and how the game is played is irrelevant if the game is ultimately won and Ronaldo helped win a lot of games during his prime.
Admittedly, Ronaldo loves putting himself out there and trying to score goals(and he does score goals) because goals are what matters in a football game. I think there should not be a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland just yet as Ronaldo has had a fulfilling and amazing career and Haaland is just starting out.

Haaland has been performing well recently but cristiano ronaldo has been performing a bit worse recently so we can't call Haaland a better player than cristiano ronaldo. Ronaldo was a shining star from the beginning of his career until he joined Manchester United. Maybe he's having a bit of a bad time at the end of his career, but that's not why emerging players have surpassed or will surpass Ronaldo. The records that Cristiano Ronaldo has achieved at the club level and at the national level are still a dream for Haaland. With recent performances, it cannot be considered that Haaland has surpassed the likes of Messi and Ronaldo.

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Quote from: bitgolden on June 06, 2023, 04:33:21 PM

Of course, Haaland and Ronaldo cannot be compared at the moment, but such a performance of Haaland at this age caused him to be compared with Ronaldo. There is still no such good striker in the Premier league. At his age, Ronaldo hadn't scored this many goals in the Premier League. He has an excellent career now, but if he doesn't suffer a serious injury, it could be one for Haaland.

No doubt with Haaland performance in this season and success made new record become top scorer by scoring 36 goals in Primer League, but can't comparison his achivement with Cristiano Ronaldo have won 5 UEFA Champion League tittle with two difference teams. Lets waiting with final match result how possibility for Haaland success get first Champion League tittle or not before talking more about what achievement from Haaland and Cristiano Ronaldo.

But I sure with Haaland has consistent performance and scoring goals on every games has chance for him stopping with Ronaldo achievement, due still on young age any possibilities or achievement from Haland and waiting right time for Haaland how to get more trophies than Ronaldo or Messi at the future.

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Quote from: Polkeins on June 06, 2023, 01:43:17 PM

You could say that Manchester City has two of the top talents of their decades in the lineup. If Messi and Ronaldo were the main star players born in the 80's, now De Bruyne as one of the main stars of the current era is a player born in the 90's and Haaland, a mega-talent and prodigy born in the 2000's and a player of a different school of fcu.
Maybe Haaland is basically a future star for decades, like Messi and Ronaldo.

It is very fortunate that Guardiola was able to set up their game so that De Bruyne perfectly assists Haaland and constructs the whole game of the team, and Haaland at the tip of the attack realizes all the chances in the penalty area.
Although Guardiola was initially skeptical about Haaland's arrival, now we can see that he is using his potential to the fullest.

In general, Inter will have to make a miracle and hope for luck, because City's squad seems much stronger.

I think it is obvious that City has some very talented players, probably top names, there is no denying that but no one in the world has dominated as much as Ronaldo and Messi did, they were the kings of football when they played, nobody else is that good and I doubt would be that good for a long time as well.

Haaland is a very powerful guy with a great instinct but he doesn't play with the ball as well as Ronaldo and Messi did, his scoring is great at the last line, but I wouldn't expect him to get the ball at the midfield, dribble around 5 guys, and then score, or De Bruyne to score like that neither, way too slow for that. I think they have the current two of the best players, but the current two is not as good as the old two.

I partly agree with you that during the heyday of Messi and Ronaldo from 2010-2020 they were unmatched. The soccer they showed was not just at a different level, it was like from another planet, especially Messi, who could walk on the field for most of the match and then solve the outcome of the match in 2-3 moves.
But in Messi's case he was assisted by perhaps the best midfielders in the world at the time - Xavi and Iniesta, what these three did on the field will go down in history not only in Barcelona, and when Neymar began to play at his peak, it seemed impossible to oppose Barcelona.

Ronaldo is a more mundane player and has created himself through tremendous work, a real workaholic.

However, Haaland is still a young man of 22 who is just reaching his peak and if he doesn't slow down, he will probably be the highest scoring striker in history. De Bruyne of course is not as productive, but more creative and versatile, but the age difference of 9 years gives him the experience that Haaland does not yet have and they complement each other perfectly.

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Quote from: hd49728 on June 07, 2023, 04:50:54 AM

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If anyone is looking for who to compare with Haaland, the person can choose Salah. Even at that Haaland needs to be as this wonder by next season before we could start such a comparison between him and Salah.
As long as the world of football is concerned, the only person worthy to be compared with Ronaldo is Messi, apart from that no more.
Those two guys are in the league of their own and are not compared outside their two.

Why comparing Haaland with Salah?

Salah has a nickname like an Egyptian Messi and it says all. You can compare Salah with Messi but not with Haaland. If you want to find a player who can compare with Haaland, you can consider Ibrahimovic, Cristiano Ronaldo or Lewandowski. They are strikers and striker is a position of Haaland in recent years.

If you need a player who is young and talented enough to compare with Haaland, you can consider Mbappe. People are discussing about another long dual race between Haaland and Mbappe like what happened with Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in the last decade.

It is not right to compare Haaland to Salah but it is right to compare Salah to Messi.
This is laughable the way you think about the comparison, so it is right to compare Leo with 7 balloon d'or with Salah with 0 Ballon d'or.
Messi and Ronaldo is only comparable to each other and not to any other footballer.
We can compare Haaland to Mbappe and that is right and anything beyond that will be an error.

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Quote from: giammangiato on June 07, 2023, 04:08:56 AM

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I don’t think a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make any sense. At least not now nor in the nearest future. Ronaldo is a goal scorer. You mentioned he never contributed to the game besides the results. If I may remind you, the result is majorly what matters and how the game is played is irrelevant if the game is ultimately won and Ronaldo helped win a lot of games during his prime.
Admittedly, Ronaldo loves putting himself out there and trying to score goals(and he does score goals) because goals are what matters in a football game. I think there should not be a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland just yet as Ronaldo has had a fulfilling and amazing career and Haaland is just starting out.

I agree, it doesn't make much sense to compare
they are totally different players
Ronaldo is a goal-scoring player, he also trains himself with free-kicks
So just two different philosophies and roles

Why will one belittle Ronaldo by comparing him to Halaad,is it because Halaad has managed to reach UCL finals or what. The two players don't have comparison in all aspect. It is just like you are comparing Messi with Sallah. Ronaldo despite that he is in Saudi has achieved and contributed a lot to the various leagues and clubs with he has played for. He has won world best several times and he is the most expensive player currently.

What has Halaad achieved,please we need to understand the quality and experience every player has before comparing them to one another. The world don't know Halaad yet but the world knows Ronaldo as a legend in football. Can Halaad move to Saudi and give his club the attention that Ronaldo gave to El-Naasri, never. Ronaldo should be compare with Messi,I don't even think that Halaad can be compared with Mbappe,who is the upcoming super legend.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on June 06, 2023, 05:54:36 PM

I don’t think a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make any sense. At least not now nor in the nearest future. Ronaldo is a goal scorer. You mentioned he never contributed to the game besides the results. If I may remind you, the result is majorly what matters and how the game is played is irrelevant if the game is ultimately won and Ronaldo helped win a lot of games during his prime.
Admittedly, Ronaldo loves putting himself out there and trying to score goals(and he does score goals) because goals are what matters in a football game. I think there should not be a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland just yet as Ronaldo has had a fulfilling and amazing career and Haaland is just starting out.

I agree, it doesn't make much sense to compare
they are totally different players
Ronaldo is a goal-scoring player, he also trains himself with free-kicks
So just two different philosophies and roles

Correct, Ronaldo is a football star, he is considered a fighting machine to break into the opponent's goal and when compared to Haaland, the two are very different.
Ronaldo always gives quite a lot of goals in every league played by his team and winning is the most important thing for Ronaldo, that's why he looks for opportunities more often and shoots to get a goal so his team can win.
Real Madrid, for example, when Ronaldo was still there, he managed to bring Madrid to have several championships and he was one of the core players used by Madrid in every game they would play.

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Quote from: Bananington on June 05, 2023, 07:02:34 PM

Manchester City have the storyline to currently intimidate any other team regardless of any old record they have. Their players are very good and very confident in their abilities. The coach is also very good and knows the exact players that every game needs. They have a better chance and unstoppable in the Champions League final. If the Manchester City players don't get overconfident that winning Inter Milan is already a job done then they can actually do the job. But if overconfidence gets in, they can make mistakes that would hurt them.

If there was to be a mistake, I don't think it'll come from the players, it'll be the fault of Pep Guardiola with his overthinking mentality. He might just decide not to play Kevin De Bruyne or Haaland at the finals. He tried something similar in the last champion league finals which he played against Chelsea and lost and I won't be surprised if he tries it again. Manchester city players are very professional and it's hard to pinpoint a time they made a mistake. I understand they're humans but those players are built different. They understand what's at stake as they have the chances to equal their rival bragging right of winning the treble.

The players will have that in mind while playing the finals against Inter Milan. Inter Milan has nothing to lose as them getting to the finals is already an outstanding season for them because if they were told at the start of the champions league season that they'll be playing the finals against the best team in the world at the moment, they won't have believed but it's happening. I can't just wait for the finals to be played, I know both clubs won't disappoint as they will give us a proper show.

I agree, although many consider Pep Guardiola to be the best coach in the world, the fact that he won the last Champions League a long time ago with Messi and with the best generation of Barcelona in history should also be taken into account.
It is a much greater success to win the Champions League with a weaker team, which is not a favorite.
After Barcelona, Pep was unable to win the Champions League again in the last 12 years, neither with Bayern nor with Manchester City.
He received unlimited money from the owner of Manchester City to bring the best players in the world to the club, but for 7 years he has not managed to win the Champions League with the best team and club in the world. It's a big failure for me.
In some key Champions League matches, against Chelsea or Tottenham for example, he simply played too cautiously and missed the chance to win.
In the match against Inter in the final, we will see if Pep has learned something from his previous mistakes.

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Quote from: Docnaster on June 07, 2023, 04:44:36 AM

If anyone is looking for who to compare with Haaland, the person can choose Salah. Even at that Haaland needs to be as this wonder by next season before we could start such a comparison between him and Salah.
As long as the world of football is concerned, the only person worthy to be compared with Ronaldo is Messi, apart from that no more.
Those two guys are in the league of their own and are not compared outside their two.

Why comparing Haaland with Salah?

Salah has a nickname like an Egyptian Messi and it says all. You can compare Salah with Messi but not with Haaland. If you want to find a player who can compare with Haaland, you can consider Ibrahimovic, Cristiano Ronaldo or Lewandowski. They are strikers and striker is a position of Haaland in recent years.

If you need a player who is young and talented enough to compare with Haaland, you can consider Mbappe. People are discussing about another long dual race between Haaland and Mbappe like what happened with Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in the last decade.

Quote from: X-ray on June 06, 2023, 07:52:28 PM

Haaland has become one of best striker in the world. it's now in the same level as benzema and lewandowski or even better than those world class strikers.

Haaland has very good stats for his career and at his age, Messi, Ronaldo, Benzema, Lewandowski don't have good stats like Haaland. He has potential to become a better striker than all those players when he finishes his career.

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Quote from: giammangiato on June 07, 2023, 04:08:56 AM

I don’t think a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make any sense. At least not now nor in the nearest future. Ronaldo is a goal scorer. You mentioned he never contributed to the game besides the results. If I may remind you, the result is majorly what matters and how the game is played is irrelevant if the game is ultimately won and Ronaldo helped win a lot of games during his prime.
Admittedly, Ronaldo loves putting himself out there and trying to score goals(and he does score goals) because goals are what matters in a football game. I think there should not be a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland just yet as Ronaldo has had a fulfilling and amazing career and Haaland is just starting out.

I agree, it doesn't make much sense to compare
they are totally different players
Ronaldo is a goal-scoring player, he also trains himself with free-kicks
So just two different philosophies and roles

If anyone is looking for who to compare with Haaland, the person can choose Salah. Even at that Haaland needs to be as this wonder by next season before we could start such a comparison between him and Salah.
As long as the world of football is concerned, the only person worthy to be compared with Ronaldo is Messi, apart from that no more.
Those two guys are in the league of their own and are not compared outside their two.

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Quote from: shogun47 on June 06, 2023, 11:16:59 PM

I don’t think a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make any sense. At least not now nor in the nearest future. Ronaldo is a goal scorer. You mentioned he never contributed to the game besides the results. If I may remind you, the result is majorly what matters and how the game is played is irrelevant if the game is ultimately won and Ronaldo helped win a lot of games during his prime.
Admittedly, Ronaldo loves putting himself out there and trying to score goals(and he does score goals) because goals are what matters in a football game. I think there should not be a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland just yet as Ronaldo has had a fulfilling and amazing career and Haaland is just starting out.

I agree, it doesn't make much sense to compare
they are totally different players
Ronaldo is a goal-scoring player, he also trains himself with free-kicks
So just two different philosophies and roles

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on June 06, 2023, 05:44:22 PM

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I believe that any comparison bade between Messi and Ronaldo and other players is prone to falling short of many things. De Bruyne is a totally different type of player whereas a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make sense at some point. But Messi is a category of its own. He has midfielder qualities as much as he has striker qualities and free kick qualities and assisting qualities. Ronaldo was a goal machine, but he never contributed to the game besides the result. He wasn't someone who also tried to pass the ball perfectly in order to make other players score. De Bruyne isn't the typical goal scorer, but is able to score important ones and probably one of the best conductors the game has seen. Haaland will need to confirm his performances for several years, but he is on a great way to stand up to a lot of comparisons.

Comparing Erling Haaland to Cristiano Ronaldo? WT actual Fvck? Lol. You've got to be kiddin. Ronaldo has been consistent for the past fifteen good years you know right, the mistake done was returning to Manchester United. Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are on another level I don't compare players with em no more. Erling Haaland might have a good start in the Premier League, but how far can he actually go?

Kevin De Brunye is a special player, irrespective of the fact that he plays for our noisy neighbors, I still support him and a fan of the belgian international. I'm pleased to see him close to achieving the champions league, I really do hope they end up winning.

I think you have severe issues correctly reading what somebody wrote and catching the tone within that post. I was first referring to player types and it would make more sense at some point to compare Haaland to Ronaldo than to Messi and even that comparison between Haaland and Ronaldo is a bit difficult because Ronaldo was still a winger, but with strong striking tendencies. He was often found in the centre as well. Messi is a different player type because he often came from the depth of the field.

Again, you should try to either look or up or understand what "at some point" means. Five years from now, maybe ten years from now. If Haaland keeps producing those numbers, even you won't get around comparing him to Ronaldo. If Haaland doesn't, then that is what it is.

@shogun47, you're just confusing yourself. with your statements you're a die heat Messi fans and you don't want to accept Reality. you are placing Messi on another level than pairing Haaland to A GOAT.
is not new, Ronaldo has been compared to every players at every levels. Ronaldo is a special player, his first season in Manchester united he played as a midfielder. you guys will never accept that Ronaldo is better than Messi, at 34, he dominated the Italian league, something Messi could not do with stars players in Psg.

haaland is just a good number 9, he can't dribble, he can't make 10 complete passes in a game. at his age Ronaldo had won several awards. don't ever compare Goat with baby boy

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I believe that any comparison bade between Messi and Ronaldo and other players is prone to falling short of many things. De Bruyne is a totally different type of player whereas a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make sense at some point. But Messi is a category of its own. He has midfielder qualities as much as he has striker qualities and free kick qualities and assisting qualities. Ronaldo was a goal machine, but he never contributed to the game besides the result. He wasn't someone who also tried to pass the ball perfectly in order to make other players score. De Bruyne isn't the typical goal scorer, but is able to score important ones and probably one of the best conductors the game has seen. Haaland will need to confirm his performances for several years, but he is on a great way to stand up to a lot of comparisons.

Comparing Erling Haaland to Cristiano Ronaldo? WT actual Fvck? Lol. You've got to be kiddin. Ronaldo has been consistent for the past fifteen good years you know right, the mistake done was returning to Manchester United. Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are on another level I don't compare players with em no more. Erling Haaland might have a good start in the Premier League, but how far can he actually go?

Kevin De Brunye is a special player, irrespective of the fact that he plays for our noisy neighbors, I still support him and a fan of the belgian international. I'm pleased to see him close to achieving the champions league, I really do hope they end up winning.

I think you have severe issues correctly reading what somebody wrote and catching the tone within that post. I was first referring to player types and it would make more sense at some point to compare Haaland to Ronaldo than to Messi and even that comparison between Haaland and Ronaldo is a bit difficult because Ronaldo was still a winger, but with strong striking tendencies. He was often found in the centre as well. Messi is a different player type because he often came from the depth of the field.

Again, you should try to either look or up or understand what "at some point" means. Five years from now, maybe ten years from now. If Haaland keeps producing those numbers, even you won't get around comparing him to Ronaldo. If Haaland doesn't, then that is what it is.

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