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Haaland is a complete striker.  he is far above jesus right now. In the first season of haaaland in EPL and he was able making a new record and he was also winning two trophies almost three if UCL will able to be won by manchester city.
I don't even see how jesus was comparable to the haaland. The gap in the top scorer board of EPL was very far.

Haaland has become one  of best striker in the world. it's now in the same level as benzema and lewandowski or even better than those world class strikers.
Haaland scored many goals till now but he is a very young striker and at his age, he can improve himself more. If Haaland stays in Manchester City and works with Pep Guardiola a few season, he will be sharpened more by Pep. Through Pep's career, Pep helped to enlighten many players to change their career entirely.

Working with Pep will help Haaland to have better sensitivity with tactics and can play with different roles. If he succeeds to upgrade himself, Haaland will become a more dangerous striker in coming years.

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that's why manchester city was not willing to have haaland release clause caused by it's a very important asset for the future of manchester city.
Haaland's dream to play in the various league in his life.

His journey is still very long way to go.
His career is only at early years and his success makes us think that Haaland is like a 30 years old player but he is younger than that. I am not sure that Haaland will be ready to stay in Manchester City and end his career with them. Maybe Haaland will be another Ibrahimovic and will move around top clubs.
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Gabriel Jesus is an important striker, yes I admit, but I don't see any striker in the world right now who will play like Haaland. He is also very young and not everyone can achieve such a good physical condition at this age. His father must be proud of him as a former Manchester City resident. I don't think any active striker in the world can compare with him right now, not only Gabriel Jesus.

Haaland is a complete striker.  he is far above jesus right now. In the first season of haaaland in EPL and he was able making a new record and he was also winning two trophies almost three if UCL will able to be won by manchester city.
I don't even see how jesus was comparable to the haaland. The gap in the top scorer board of EPL was very far.

Haaland has become one  of best striker in the world. it's now in the same level as benzema and lewandowski or even better than those world class strikers.

that's why manchester city was not willing to have haaland release clause caused by it's a very important asset for the future of manchester city.
Haaland's dream to play in the various league in his life.

His journey is still very long way to go.
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I believe that any comparison bade between Messi and Ronaldo and other players is prone to falling short of many things. De Bruyne is a totally different type of player whereas a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make sense at some point. But Messi is a category of its own. He has midfielder qualities as much as he has striker qualities and free kick qualities and assisting qualities. Ronaldo was a goal machine, but he never contributed to the game besides the result. He wasn't someone who also tried to pass the ball perfectly in order to make other players score. De Bruyne isn't the typical goal scorer, but is able to score important ones and probably one of the best conductors the game has seen. Haaland will need to confirm his performances for several years, but he is on a great way to stand up to a lot of comparisons.

I don’t think a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make any sense. At least not now nor in the nearest future. Ronaldo is a goal scorer. You mentioned he never contributed to the game besides the results. If I may remind you, the result is majorly what matters and how the game is played is irrelevant if the game is ultimately won and Ronaldo helped win a lot of games during his prime.
Admittedly, Ronaldo loves putting himself out there and trying to score goals(and he does score goals) because goals are what matters in a football game. I think there should not be a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland  just yet as Ronaldo has had a fulfilling and amazing career and Haaland is just starting out.
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Haaland has just no match at this age among the actively playing strikers in Europe. You don't see very young strikers showing this much consistency with scoring goals at a very young age often. I must admit that Haaland wasn't effective at all against Real Madrid in both legs. I mean he had chances to score of course but wasted all of them.

But every star player has bad or unlucky times. Despite his inadequate effort Manchester City still destroyed Real Madrid on aggregate. This is a proof of how strong Manchester City are as a team.

However this time I'm hopeful about Haaland to become much more effective. This is his first Champions League finale in his career and undoubtedly he would be keen on showing his finishing skills completely.
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Manchester City have the storyline to currently intimidate any other team regardless of any old record they have. Their players are very good and very confident in their abilities. The coach is also very good and knows the exact players that every game needs. They have a better chance and unstoppable in the Champions League final. If the Manchester City players don't get overconfident that winning Inter Milan is already a job done then they can actually do the job. But if overconfidence gets in, they can make mistakes that would hurt them.

If there was to be a mistake, I don't think it'll come from the players, it'll be the fault of Pep Guardiola with his overthinking mentality. He might just decide not to play Kevin De Bruyne or Haaland at the finals. He tried something similar in the last champion league finals which he played against Chelsea and lost and I won't be surprised if he tries it again. Manchester city players are very professional and it's hard to pinpoint a time they made a mistake. I understand they're humans but those players are built different. They understand what's at stake as they have the chances to equal their rival bragging right of winning the treble.

The players will have that in mind while playing the finals against Inter Milan. Inter Milan has nothing to lose as them getting to the finals is already an outstanding season for them because if they were told at the start of the champions league season that they'll be playing the finals against the best team in the world at the moment, they won't have believed but it's happening. I can't just wait for the finals to be played, I know both clubs won't disappoint as they will give us a proper show.
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I believe that any comparison bade between Messi and Ronaldo and other players is prone to falling short of many things. De Bruyne is a totally different type of player whereas a comparison between Ronaldo and Haaland could make sense at some point. But Messi is a category of its own. He has midfielder qualities as much as he has striker qualities and free kick qualities and assisting qualities. Ronaldo was a goal machine, but he never contributed to the game besides the result. He wasn't someone who also tried to pass the ball perfectly in order to make other players score. De Bruyne isn't the typical goal scorer, but is able to score important ones and probably one of the best conductors the game has seen. Haaland will need to confirm his performances for several years, but he is on a great way to stand up to a lot of comparisons.

Comparing Erling Haaland to Cristiano Ronaldo? WT actual Fvck? Lol. You've got to be kiddin. Ronaldo has been consistent for the past fifteen good years you know right, the mistake done was returning to Manchester United. Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are on another level I don't compare players with em no more. Erling Haaland might have a good start in the Premier League, but how far can he actually go?

Kevin De Brunye is a special player, irrespective of the fact that he plays for our noisy neighbors, I still support him and a fan of the belgian international. I'm pleased to see him close to achieving the champions league, I really do hope they end up winning.
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This information will never be confirmed - after all, if UEFA is caught on something like that, then UEFA itself will be fucked up. This is a clear violation of the principles of free competition and any such attempt will be punishable. But UEFA officials are so stupid that I nevertheless have some hope that they will fall for this. It would be a good blow to UEFA and perhaps the Super League project would get a second wind.

"There is irrefutable evidence that UEFA threatened Juve with throwing it out of Europe for three years"

According to AS here, translated with google.

https://as.com/futbol/internacional/hay-pruebas-irrefutables-de-que-la-uefa-amenazo-a-la-juve-con-echarla-de-europa-tres-anos-n/



Source; https://as.com/futbol/internacional/hay-pruebas-irrefutables-de-que-la-uefa-amenazo-a-la-juve-con-echarla-de-europa-tres-anos-n/

As I said 2 months ago, even EUFA members said the punishment they got in Serie A was to because to exclude them from the Champions League.


As far as I know the penalty for withdrawing from the Superleague project is huge and I don't know how Juventus will be able to solve it, but it is obvious that they decided to cheat and not fulfill their obligations.


Cheat what exactly? Don't follow the propaganda.
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The final is only a few days away now, I'm quite impatient what Haaland will do in the future because it is certain that with his current condition, the markings from the Inter players will obviously be troublesome for him and of course this can be a very good test for his condition to be better again and again.
City have so many players who can score and can decide the outcome of the match, so it will not be enough for Inter just to play well with Haaland, because they have De Bruyne, Gundogan, Silva and each of them is equally dangerous. In my opinion, City is now in optimal shape, I don’t want to say that Inter is a weak team and City can easily beat them in the final, but I still think that Inter will not have many chances.
Inter is not such a simple team since they have reached the final. This is football, even though Manchester City seems to be the big favorite of all. It should not be forgotten that they lost to Chelsea in the final a few years ago. They played as big favorites back then, but lost. When it comes to UCL, anything can happen.
Inter Milan has a defense that is known to be very sturdy. And also have a quick counter attack strategy if they use a defensive strategy. But in this final match, I think both teams will make the same strategy, namely using an attack strategy. which is certain these two teams will try to score the first goal in the game. But I also feel that Man City will score their first goal in the final. but I expect more than one goal in the final.

It's just that if we make a comparison of overall strength then of course we will see a result that Man City is far superior. It's just that Inter Milan has even made many surprises in the Champions League this season. because Inter Milan is not even included in the team that is favored to enter the final in the Champions League this season. And precisely the teams that are favored and have the potential to be in the race for the title this season are Bayern, Man City, Real Madrid, PSG, Napoli and Benfica. But now surprisingly it is Inter Milan who are now in the final and will face Man City.

Football is always difficult to predict and the outcome of this UCL Final will definitely be very difficult for us to predict.
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At first I thought like you. But it turned out that I was wrong, Gabriel Jesus is not as good as Haaland, so Man City's strength increased many times after Haaland came. Haaland became a striker who needed a lot of players to stop him. This is because he is bigger and stronger. Unlike Jesus, he is good but not as good as Haaland. Haaland was able to attract many players to stop his movement. So Haaland opens up a lot of space for a second striker or midfielder to make a goal-bound shot from outside the box. It worked during the FA Cup final.


I still think Manchester city doesn’t depend wholly on the abilities of Haaland as a striker to score goals. No doubt, Haaland is a very talented striker and Manchester City’s strength may have increased a bit with him on the squad. He’s a big and energetic striker who’s also moves quickly and opens up beautifully for passes or crosses from other teammates to score goals.
I wouldn’t say Gabriel Jesus is not as good as Haaland. Gabriel Jesus is a more experienced player than Haaland. Haaland has his youthful energy as well as his height and build and he uses all that to the best of his ability.

I think Gabriel Jesus and Haaland really cannot be compared, because I think these two players have very different body shapes and playing styles. So yes, even though it could be argued that Haaland is replacing Gabriel Jesus at Manchester City, but I don't think so. Because after all, when Haaland was still playing at Dortmund it was actually clear that Haaland had very strong characteristics and this was very different from Gabriel Jesus. So yes, after all Manchester City managed to have Haaland because having Haaland in the Manchester City squad, of course, made Manchester City's performance better and always promised good results.

Well, body shape doesn't really count that much and we have some very good examples for that when we talk about great players. But Jesus isn't anywhere nearly as dangerous as Haaland. This is a numbers question and nothing else. When somebody scores over 40 goals per season for a team and the other striker scores und 20 goals per season, the striker with 40 goals is better in that season and if he outcompetes the other player for a longer period of time, he is the better player in general. I would find it right if Haaland gets some more time to prove himself.

Gabriel Jesus is an important striker, yes I admit, but I don't see any striker in the world right now who will play like Haaland. He is also very young and not everyone can achieve such a good physical condition at this age. His father must be proud of him as a former Manchester City resident. I don't think any active striker in the world can compare with him right now, not only Gabriel Jesus.
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You could say that Manchester City has two of the top talents of their decades in the lineup. If Messi and Ronaldo were the main star players born in the 80's, now De Bruyne as one of the main stars of the current era is a player born in the 90's and Haaland, a mega-talent and prodigy born in the 2000's and a player of a different school of fcu.
Maybe Haaland is basically a future star for decades, like Messi and Ronaldo.

It is very fortunate that Guardiola was able to set up their game so that De Bruyne perfectly assists Haaland and constructs the whole game of the team, and Haaland at the tip of the attack realizes all the chances in the penalty area.
Although Guardiola was initially skeptical about Haaland's arrival, now we can see that he is using his potential to the fullest.

In general, Inter will have to make a miracle and hope for luck, because City's squad seems much stronger. 
I think it is obvious that City has some very talented players, probably top names, there is no denying that but no one in the world has dominated as much as Ronaldo and Messi did, they were the kings of football when they played, nobody else is that good and I doubt would be that good for a long time as well.

Haaland is a very powerful guy with a great instinct but he doesn't play with the ball as well as Ronaldo and Messi did, his scoring is great at the last line, but I wouldn't expect him to get the ball at the midfield, dribble around 5 guys, and then score, or De Bruyne to score like that neither, way too slow for that. I think they have the current two of the best players, but the current two is not as good as the old two.
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Super league = dead league

There's nothing to expect from ESL anymore. It will be only the match between barcelona and real madrid anytime. that's the reality.

My main concern is about how juventus will be paying the exit clause. perez will not be happy with it. ESL was definitedly a dead project.  Cheesy

This news has become trending on twitter. There have been many funny reactions from many people about this news.

As far as I know the penalty for withdrawing from the Superleague project is huge and I don't know how Juventus will be able to solve it, but it is obvious that they decided to cheat and not fulfill their obligations.
I would not be in a hurry to bury the Super League, soon the Saudis will buy out the coolest players from Europe and other top clubs will beg Real and Barcelona to continue the project  Grin and they can sell the audience a top product for top money but not competitions like the Conference League or unimaginably interesting confrontations between teams from basements of national championships.
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The final is only a few days away now, I'm quite impatient what Haaland will do in the future because it is certain that with his current condition, the markings from the Inter players will obviously be troublesome for him and of course this can be a very good test for his condition to be better again and again.
City have so many players who can score and can decide the outcome of the match, so it will not be enough for Inter just to play well with Haaland, because they have De Bruyne, Gundogan, Silva and each of them is equally dangerous. In my opinion, City is now in optimal shape, I don’t want to say that Inter is a weak team and City can easily beat them in the final, but I still think that Inter will not have many chances.
Inter is not such a simple team since they have reached the final. This is football, even though Manchester City seems to be the big favorite of all. It should not be forgotten that they lost to Chelsea in the final a few years ago. They played as big favorites back then, but lost. When it comes to UCL, anything can happen.
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The final is only a few days away now, I'm quite impatient what Haaland will do in the future because it is certain that with his current condition, the markings from the Inter players will obviously be troublesome for him and of course this can be a very good test for his condition to be better again and again.
City have so many players who can score and can decide the outcome of the match, so it will not be enough for Inter just to play well with Haaland, because they have De Bruyne, Gundogan, Silva and each of them is equally dangerous. In my opinion, City is now in optimal shape, I don’t want to say that Inter is a weak team and City can easily beat them in the final, but I still think that Inter will not have many chances.
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At first I thought like you. But it turned out that I was wrong, Gabriel Jesus is not as good as Haaland, so Man City's strength increased many times after Haaland came. Haaland became a striker who needed a lot of players to stop him. This is because he is bigger and stronger. Unlike Jesus, he is good but not as good as Haaland. Haaland was able to attract many players to stop his movement. So Haaland opens up a lot of space for a second striker or midfielder to make a goal-bound shot from outside the box. It worked during the FA Cup final.


I still think Manchester city doesn’t depend wholly on the abilities of Haaland as a striker to score goals. No doubt, Haaland is a very talented striker and Manchester City’s strength may have increased a bit with him on the squad. He’s a big and energetic striker who’s also moves quickly and opens up beautifully for passes or crosses from other teammates to score goals.
I wouldn’t say Gabriel Jesus is not as good as Haaland. Gabriel Jesus is a more experienced player than Haaland. Haaland has his youthful energy as well as his height and build and he uses all that to the best of his ability.

I think Gabriel Jesus and Haaland really cannot be compared, because I think these two players have very different body shapes and playing styles. So yes, even though it could be argued that Haaland is replacing Gabriel Jesus at Manchester City, but I don't think so. Because after all, when Haaland was still playing at Dortmund it was actually clear that Haaland had very strong characteristics and this was very different from Gabriel Jesus. So yes, after all Manchester City managed to have Haaland because having Haaland in the Manchester City squad, of course, made Manchester City's performance better and always promised good results.

Well, body shape doesn't really count that much and we have some very good examples for that when we talk about great players. But Jesus isn't anywhere nearly as dangerous as Haaland. This is a numbers question and nothing else. When somebody scores over 40 goals per season for a team and the other striker scores und 20 goals per season, the striker with 40 goals is better in that season and if he outcompetes the other player for a longer period of time, he is the better player in general. I would find it right if Haaland gets some more time to prove himself.
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I still think Manchester city doesn’t depend wholly on the abilities of Haaland as a striker to score goals.
Of course you're right, and so far this season it's been noted that at least 12 different players have scored in the Champions League including Haaland. The team's current top scorer is Haaland with 12 goals from 10 matches, then Mahrez, Alvarez and Bernardo Silva each scored 3 goals.

Actually it is also not without reason.
Haaland is a potential young player, on the other hand he is the spearhead of Manchester City so it is quite natural that Haaland is used as a foundation for scoring goals and he has managed to do his job well so far.
Now, Haaland can be said to be phenomenal because even though his name is already very visible in Dortmund, at Manchester City, with the excellent support of his colleagues, Haaland is even more frightening and Manchester City is not wrong to pin their hopes on this young player.

The final is only a few days away now, I'm quite impatient what Haaland will do in the future because it is certain that with his current condition, the markings from the Inter players will obviously be troublesome for him and of course this can be a very good test for his condition to be better again and again.
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I still think Manchester city doesn’t depend wholly on the abilities of Haaland as a striker to score goals.
Of course you're right, and so far this season it's been noted that at least 12 different players have scored in the Champions League including Haaland. The team's current top scorer is Haaland with 12 goals from 10 matches, then Mahrez, Alvarez and Bernardo Silva each scored 3 goals.

You can see the full statistics here: Manchester City's top scorer in the Champions League 2022/2023.

No doubt, Haaland is a very talented striker and Manchester City’s strength may have increased a bit with him on the squad. He’s a big and energetic striker who’s also moves quickly and opens up beautifully for passes or crosses from other teammates to score goals.
I wouldn’t say Gabriel Jesus is not as good as Haaland. Gabriel Jesus is a more experienced player than Haaland. Haaland has his youthful energy as well as his height and build and he uses all that to the best of his ability.
Jesus is good player, but his goals and finishing stats are not as good as Haaland's I think. You can compare the two players based on the goalscoring stats, but of course Jesus has more experience in the Premier League than Haaland who is just finishing his first season.
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Manchester City will win by fighting in the Champions League final this time, because Manchester City is of course very aware that they will not win if they don't want to fight in the final. After all, it doesn't really make sense for a team to want to squander a final opportunity just like that, because Inter Milan will also fight according to their abilities, so there are no easy words to win in any final. Including in the Champions League final which all the teams who have achieved it really dream of.

I agree that a final match will be fought to the end by both sides, especially since it is the last match of the Champions league tournament, Europe's most competitive tournament. We can't look down on any team at this moment because anything may happen in the final match because both sides have performed very well to reach here. Manchester City is the favorite, but Inter Milan don’t feel they can be eliminated so easily. It should be an intriguing match to watch.

I still think Manchester city doesn’t depend wholly on the abilities of Haaland as a striker to score goals. No doubt, Haaland is a very talented striker and Manchester City’s strength may have increased a bit with him on the squad. He’s a big and energetic striker who’s also moves quickly and opens up beautifully for passes or crosses from other teammates to score goals.
I wouldn’t say Gabriel Jesus is not as good as Haaland. Gabriel Jesus is a more experienced player than Haaland. Haaland has his youthful energy as well as his height and build and he uses all that to the best of his ability.

This part of Haaland's characteristics features that he is exploiting to his advantage is what makes him more suitable and qualified to be the top striker in the Premier League right now. What good are your physical abilities if you can't use them to improve yourself and your team? Experience, to me, is when you can elevate your team above in the competition when they need it the most.
Manchester City does not always rely on Haaland, and it can be observed that other players contribute to the team's goal scoring even though Haaland has more than them. It's a team effort, and they're doing an excellent job as a team.
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I think even in this case Manchester City's probability is much bigger than inter but to say that Inter doesn't have the power to stop Manchester City I think this is a wrong assumption.
Even though in this case we can also see how Manchester City's current condition doesn't mean Inter can't do anything, it's just that in this case the situation is more difficult for Inter than City but that doesn't mean City can win easily.
The final match will not be easy for any club despite its status as the most favored team to win the title. Inter will fight against Manchester City in their own way, Inzaghi must have studied Manchester City's style of play and already have a way to stop the movements of his opponents players.
Manchester City very good condition gives its own color to its players, especially since they have just won their second title this season. This final is very important for Manchester City, they will try to spoil Inter game to win a trophy that has never been won so far.
For a team to qualify for the Champions League final, they are the best team among the others and in my opinion. Simone Inzaghi as coach of Inter Milan will not be daunted by the dominance of Manchester City which is considered to have quality and strong players, and Inter Milan must play it all out against Mamchester City.
This final will be a very interesting match because both of them have the ambition to lift the big ear trophy, especially Manchester City who have never won the UCL. And the two coaches have a very decisive role to develop strategies, tactics and must be proficient in managing players.

It takes a lot of effort to make it to the finals, therefore your assessment is entirely accurate. Without action, a team cannot advance in a tournament, and no matter how valiant the coach of Inter Milan may be, Manchester City will still win. I don't think it will be difficult for manchester city to defeat Inter Milan congratulations to them in advance. Manchester City simply has its own way of intimidating its opponents and controlling them throughout any game. It's true that the club has some of the best players, including Foden, Haaland, De Bruyne, and many others if they should win, there will be a huge celebration among them since they seriously want to win the champions league. And despite me not liking manchester city I still love their commitment.
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At first I thought like you. But it turned out that I was wrong, Gabriel Jesus is not as good as Haaland, so Man City's strength increased many times after Haaland came. Haaland became a striker who needed a lot of players to stop him. This is because he is bigger and stronger. Unlike Jesus, he is good but not as good as Haaland. Haaland was able to attract many players to stop his movement. So Haaland opens up a lot of space for a second striker or midfielder to make a goal-bound shot from outside the box. It worked during the FA Cup final.
It's a fact that Gabriel Jesus isn't as good as Haaland, that's true. Man City is stronger with Haaland, in several matches many teams focused on guarding Haaland and it was proven that Haaland was unable to score goals but they forgot that other Man city players were very dangerous so they were able to score goals. Gundogan is always a solution when Haaland is heavily guarded (this is the function of the attacker, besides scoring goals, he is a diversion for the opposing team). That was proven in the last few matches of Man city.

Yes, that's right, just like the match during the FA Final. Of course, Pep Guardiola knows that Haaland will be the focus of MU defenders. Halland seemed to be dead tick but still played in full. That is where Pep Guardiola's great strategy, none of the MU defenders dared to go up to help attack. Finally, the Man City midfielders were free to maneuver and attack, this was the key to Man City's victory.
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In fact the UEFA Champions League final is the pinnacle of football with teams devoting their hearts and minds to every minute on the pitch. Manchester City understand the seriousness of this momentous event and realize that victory cannot be won without a fierce struggle. They know that complacency is not an option as it would be a serious mistake to underestimate the quality of rivals Inter Milan. No team can reach the final without a burning desire to lift the trophy and City have the same dream of eventual success. You will enter the field with determination strategy and steadfastness ready to give it your all in a competition where there no easy path to victory.
It's not easy for any team to face the final match. The two teams certainly have the same desire to be the best in this elite competition in Europe. Several previous finals have also happened that were beyond the predictions of many people, such as the final match between Bayern Munich vs Chelsea, where at that time the Blues arrived as a non-seeded team but they managed to win a trophy.

So because of that, Manchester City, who is very passionate, certainly has to work hard without underestimating their opponent. The Citizens are indeed superior in the match, but Pep Guardiola must really learn from experience. While Inter will, of course, play free and carefree, it is possible that Inzaghi will apply a different scheme to paralyze his tough opponent's game. But what is clear is that the final match will always present a different atmosphere, the mentality will greatly affect every player on the field.
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