UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season - page 470.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on February 18, 2023, 02:41:26 AM

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Chelsea must be able to create quick goals to make them equalize on aggregate first. Because if they can score a quick goal, it will increase their morale because they can make the game a draw again. Regardless of what the result is for them, I think they will be able to score goals in the second leg, but I can't say for sure whether they will make a comeback or not, it's hard to predict.

Chelsea is trying to buy many superstar players and soon they will have a stronger team but right now and regarding their match against Dortmund let's say they could win the last match against this team and the German star Karim Adeyemi scored an amazing goal for Dortmund while Chelsea couldn't do anything even Chelsea had more shots on target and more opportunities but still they lost the game and should try harder for next match in they play against Dortmund in Stamford Bridge later.

Actually, from the Chelsea vs Dortmund match, we can already see that there has been a good improvement in Chelsea's performance. But Dortmund, who are currently in their best performance, are certainly very difficult to beat. But in the second leg I think Chelsea can be even better. currently Graham potter is under pressure so he will definitely make a better strategy in the next match. to save himself and the club's reputation.

Can Chelsea catch up and turn things around, is still a question mark
They will play a home game, it's good to increase the confidence of the players
This is an important match for Chelsea after last month's winter transfer market activity, the agreement made by Graham potter is expected to bring Chelsea to a better situation this season.
Most fans expect Chelsea can overcome the challenge in the last 16 of the Champions League this season

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Quote from: rendravolt on February 18, 2023, 07:45:24 AM

Indeed, the odds offered by the bookie look quite a lot for Real Madrid. Even so, everyone knows that Real Madrid has always been an obstacle for Liverpool in the UCL. So I think it's just a trick by a dealer so that gamblers are a little confused by the odds that are offered. For the game against Osasuna, I don't think it's a benchmark, because there are different competitions, different opponents, of course Real Madrid has a way to overcome that.

That's true Liverpool shows bad performance recently and especially in the premier league they couldn't stay between the first teams so far I know Klopp could show a good performance so far with his team that's why most fans believe he is not good enough anymore for the team. but regarding this match and facing Real Madrid, the champions league the only advantage they have is playing at Anfield where they can use their fans to have more luck.

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Quote from: wmaurik on February 18, 2023, 07:25:46 AM

Last season Real Madrid became the best team in La Liga and also in the Champions League by winning titles in both competitions. Meanwhile, this season is starting to look a little different from last season through Real Madrid's performances so far, but for now Real Madrid isn't bad enough in the Champions League and also in La Liga, even though it's a little behind Barcelona. Because the time to rise like last season for Real Madrid is still very much now, so judging it for now is still not quite right in my opinion.

Real Madrid doesn't look to be the best team in Champions League nor it is the first in La Liga, yet it should not be underestimated especially that the players are aware of how hard to get La Liga title so they will give all their attentions to UCL. I think everyone remember how Real Madrid flipped the table on the head of every opponent thinking they were winning at the end of the games!

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Quote from: rendravolt on February 18, 2023, 07:45:24 AM

Indeed, the odds offered by the bookie look quite a lot for Real Madrid. Even so, everyone knows that Real Madrid has always been an obstacle for Liverpool in the UCL. So I think it's just a trick by a dealer so that gamblers are a little confused by the odds that are offered. For the game against Osasuna, I don't think it's a benchmark, because there are different competitions, different opponents, of course Real Madrid has a way to overcome that.

With the initial Odds of 3.00 and now being 2.85 it looks like the dealers are making it a bit like they are not the favorite just because they are playing away.
But in fact this is a good thing because indeed with these conditions it is clear that it will be very tempting to see the odds of 2.8x now.
But even so, we also have to look at Madrid's statistics last season because they were always unlucky in the first half and it's not impossible this season too, although my hope is clear that Madrid can win there immediately.

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Real Madrid is pretty much in the Champions League, but I don't see much chance of Real Madrid winning the title. Real Madrid is considered as the best team in La Liga. There are many big teams in the Champions League who have fought each other to the max.

Last season Real Madrid became the best team in La Liga and also in the Champions League by winning titles in both competitions. Meanwhile, this season is starting to look a little different from last season through Real Madrid's performances so far, but for now Real Madrid isn't bad enough in the Champions League and also in La Liga, even though it's a little behind Barcelona. Because the time to rise like last season for Real Madrid is still very much now, so judging it for now is still not quite right in my opinion.

Last season, even though Real Madrid managed to become champions, actually they were not favored by many people, in fact, every time they managed to beat the team in the round of 16 until they finally competed in the final, many considered them a lucky team. But the question is which team can get lucky by eliminating many big teams and even winning the Champions League. But this season there seems to be a decline shown by Real Madrid.

I would not agree that Real became the champion of Europe last season solely because of luck.
This would actually mean underestimating the great individual quality of that team, team unity, faith in victory and the fight of all players until the last moment.
This is precisely why PSG has not become the European champion until now, even though they invested the most money in the team and brought in Mbappe, Neymar and Messi.
That team has great individuals, but it doesn't have the team unity and character for big things, like Real has.
I agree, Real is currently in crisis, but in the Champions League it doesn't mean much and they shouldn't be underestimated.

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It is true that Benzema is experiencing physical fatigue and in the match against Osasuna in the domestic league it is likely that he will be absent to maintain his stamina and for the match against Liverpool in the UCL will be his priority. When talking about the Real Madrid vs Liverpool meeting in the UCL, it is very clear that Real Madrid has the advantage to win this match, even though there are problems in the context above, I think that there are still quite a lot of options for Real Madrid players so Ancelotti is not too bothered about this.

I'm not sure if Real Madrid have advantage to win against Liverpool, because if you look on the bookies, Real Madrid become an underdog. I think we need to see the result of Real Madrid vs Osasuna first, if Real Madrid can score at least 2 goals, I believe they have a good chance to beat Liverpool. Another problem Toni Kroos will be absent too, Tchouameni doesn't have stable performance like Kroos.

We also have another match between Frankfurt and Napoli, I strongly believe Napoli will win, the odds is high too for @2.12, a worthy match to make a bet.

Indeed, the odds offered by the bookie look quite a lot for Real Madrid. Even so, everyone knows that Real Madrid has always been an obstacle for Liverpool in the UCL. So I think it's just a trick by a dealer so that gamblers are a little confused by the odds that are offered. For the game against Osasuna, I don't think it's a benchmark, because there are different competitions, different opponents, of course Real Madrid has a way to overcome that.

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Real Madrid is pretty much in the Champions League, but I don't see much chance of Real Madrid winning the title. Real Madrid is considered as the best team in La Liga. There are many big teams in the Champions League who have fought each other to the max.

Last season Real Madrid became the best team in La Liga and also in the Champions League by winning titles in both competitions. Meanwhile, this season is starting to look a little different from last season through Real Madrid's performances so far, but for now Real Madrid isn't bad enough in the Champions League and also in La Liga, even though it's a little behind Barcelona. Because the time to rise like last season for Real Madrid is still very much now, so judging it for now is still not quite right in my opinion.

Last season, even though Real Madrid managed to become champions, actually they were not favored by many people, in fact, every time they managed to beat the team in the round of 16 until they finally competed in the final, many considered them a lucky team. But the question is which team can get lucky by eliminating many big teams and even winning the Champions League. But this season there seems to be a decline shown by Real Madrid.

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Quote from: Naficopa on February 18, 2023, 04:32:05 AM

Real Madrid is pretty much in the Champions League, but I don't see much chance of Real Madrid winning the title. Real Madrid is considered as the best team in La Liga. There are many big teams in the Champions League who have fought each other to the max.

Last season Real Madrid became the best team in La Liga and also in the Champions League by winning titles in both competitions. Meanwhile, this season is starting to look a little different from last season through Real Madrid's performances so far, but for now Real Madrid isn't bad enough in the Champions League and also in La Liga, even though it's a little behind Barcelona. Because the time to rise like last season for Real Madrid is still very much now, so judging it for now is still not quite right in my opinion.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on February 18, 2023, 06:13:56 AM

Champions League games are very different compared to La Liga and the Premier League. I hope Liverpool can perform optimally in that match without being affected by Real Madrid's condition. Liverpool must maximize the first leg because it is played at Anfield, and of course they have higher probability of winning than Real Madrid.

Ahead of the first leg tie between the two, Liverpool and Real Madrid both have their respective league match today. We may need to see how both of them perform in this match, but Liverpool have tough match against Newcastle while Real Madrid have against Osasuna. It feels like Real Madrid will easily win today's league match, while Liverpool will most likely have to fight for maximum points from Newcastle at St. James' Park.

Osasuna will not give Real Madrid win easily, but Liverpool will probably have a more difficult match. I don’t know what Ancelotti expects in La Liga, but Klopp definitely does not count on anything in the Premier League, so they may well give away today's match, and completely focus on the match with Real Madrid. Liverpool is too unstable, I don’t know how to it's can help them, although Real Madrid let Barcelona go into the gap, but I think they are in the best form than Liverpool, and are able to defeat them.

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I'm not sure if Real Madrid have advantage to win against Liverpool, because if you look on the bookies, Real Madrid become an underdog. I think we need to see the result of Real Madrid vs Osasuna first, if Real Madrid can score at least 2 goals, I believe they have a good chance to beat Liverpool. Another problem Toni Kroos will be absent too, Tchouameni doesn't have stable performance like Kroos.

Champions League games are very different compared to La Liga and the Premier League. I hope Liverpool can perform optimally in that match without being affected by Real Madrid's condition. Liverpool must maximize the first leg because it is played at Anfield, and of course they have higher probability of winning than Real Madrid.

Ahead of the first leg tie between the two, Liverpool and Real Madrid both have their respective league match today. We may need to see how both of them perform in this match, but Liverpool have tough match against Newcastle while Real Madrid have against Osasuna. It feels like Real Madrid will easily win today's league match, while Liverpool will most likely have to fight for maximum points from Newcastle at St. James' Park.

Liverpool has screwed up really bad in the Premier League so most likely they are preparing full focus for the Champions League game they have against one of the best teams in the Champions League.I think they will not give a damn even if they lose this week game against Newcastle but I also think Real Madrid may not be fully focused in their weekend game of La Liga against Osasuna as both teams are used to get going further in the Champions League with Real Madrid clearly being the favorite from this encounter.

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Quote from: Despairo on February 18, 2023, 12:12:03 AM

I'm not sure if Real Madrid have advantage to win against Liverpool, because if you look on the bookies, Real Madrid become an underdog. I think we need to see the result of Real Madrid vs Osasuna first, if Real Madrid can score at least 2 goals, I believe they have a good chance to beat Liverpool. Another problem Toni Kroos will be absent too, Tchouameni doesn't have stable performance like Kroos.

Champions League games are very different compared to La Liga and the Premier League. I hope Liverpool can perform optimally in that match without being affected by Real Madrid's condition. Liverpool must maximize the first leg because it is played at Anfield, and of course they have higher probability of winning than Real Madrid.

Ahead of the first leg tie between the two, Liverpool and Real Madrid both have their respective league match today. We may need to see how both of them perform in this match, but Liverpool have tough match against Newcastle while Real Madrid have against Osasuna. It feels like Real Madrid will easily win today's league match, while Liverpool will most likely have to fight for maximum points from Newcastle at St. James' Park.

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Quote from: makishart on February 18, 2023, 05:08:26 AM

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It's difficult for me to believe Chelsea will score goals in the second leg. Chelsea's biggest problems is creating chances and scoring goals. They have not scored more than 1 goal in a match the whole of this year. Dortmund on the other hand is a team that know how to score goals.
If Chelsea can stop Dortmund from scoring and they themselves are able to score two goals then they can qualify, but I highly doubt that. I believe Dortmund will win the second leg too.

Let's see what kind of surprise that will be bringing by felix. As far as i can see if potter is always using felix and havertz as attackers. There are some worthy strikers that can be used but potter refuse it. Aubameyang seems a bit better than felix.
It's hard to predict what kind of rotation that will be made by potter again. Im very disappointed with how chelsea was performing so bad either in champion league and premier league.
it sounds like dortmund will be adding more goals in the stamford bridge. Let's see what will be coming next month.

I actually saw that Chelsea in the match against Dortmund had been able to create many very good opportunities. But Gregor Kobel is a goalkeeper who deserves to be appreciated. because many of the kicks were aimed directly at Dortmund's goal which Gregor Kobel managed to push over. Gregor Kobel saves Dortmund's goal a lot. This match went with the performance of both teams that were equally strong. However, the only goal that was created was because Karim Adeyemi really made a surprise in that match. he ran alone and scored a goal and made Dortmund win the game. so I think Chelsea can really get a win in the next game.

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Quote from: harapan on February 18, 2023, 04:05:23 AM

It's difficult for me to believe Chelsea will score goals in the second leg. Chelsea's biggest problems is creating chances and scoring goals. They have not scored more than 1 goal in a match the whole of this year. Dortmund on the other hand is a team that know how to score goals.
If Chelsea can stop Dortmund from scoring and they themselves are able to score two goals then they can qualify, but I highly doubt that. I believe Dortmund will win the second leg too.

Let's see what kind of surprise that will be bringing by felix. As far as i can see if potter is always using felix and havertz as attackers. There are some worthy strikers that can be used but potter refuse it. Aubameyang seems a bit better than felix.
It's hard to predict what kind of rotation that will be made by potter again. Im very disappointed with how chelsea was performing so bad either in champion league and premier league.
it sounds like dortmund will be adding more goals in the stamford bridge. Let's see what will be coming next month.

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It is true that Benzema is experiencing physical fatigue and in the match against Osasuna in the domestic league it is likely that he will be absent to maintain his stamina and for the match against Liverpool in the UCL will be his priority. When talking about the Real Madrid vs Liverpool meeting in the UCL, it is very clear that Real Madrid has the advantage to win this match, even though there are problems in the context above, I think that there are still quite a lot of options for Real Madrid players so Ancelotti is not too bothered about this.

I'm not sure if Real Madrid have advantage to win against Liverpool, because if you look on the bookies, Real Madrid become an underdog. I think we need to see the result of Real Madrid vs Osasuna first, if Real Madrid can score at least 2 goals, I believe they have a good chance to beat Liverpool. Another problem Toni Kroos will be absent too, Tchouameni doesn't have stable performance like Kroos.

We also have another match between Frankfurt and Napoli, I strongly believe Napoli will win, the odds is high too for @2.12, a worthy match to make a bet.

Real Madrid become an underdog? are you kidding when you say that? I am a Liverpool supporter, but I have to be realistic when assessing the 2 teams that will compete. Yes, I expected a lot to see Liverpool win this match, but again, when I see my current team, it is a separate doubt for me to see Liverpool in this match. I only hope that Jurgen Klopp can come up with a surprise strategy that can bring Liverpool to the best results at the end of the match.

Real Madrid is pretty much in the Champions League, but I don't see much chance of Real Madrid winning the title. Real Madrid is considered as the best team in La Liga. There are many big teams in the Champions League who have fought each other to the max.

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Quote from: Alanaz on February 17, 2023, 01:01:47 PM

Chelsea must be able to create quick goals to make them equalize on aggregate first. Because if they can score a quick goal, it will increase their morale because they can make the game a draw again. Regardless of what the result is for them, I think they will be able to score goals in the second leg, but I can't say for sure whether they will make a comeback or not, it's hard to predict.

It's difficult for me to believe Chelsea will score goals in the second leg. Chelsea's biggest problems is creating chances and scoring goals. They have not scored more than 1 goal in a match the whole of this year. Dortmund on the other hand is a team that know how to score goals.
If Chelsea can stop Dortmund from scoring and they themselves are able to score two goals then they can qualify, but I highly doubt that. I believe Dortmund will win the second leg too.

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Chelsea must be able to create quick goals to make them equalize on aggregate first. Because if they can score a quick goal, it will increase their morale because they can make the game a draw again. Regardless of what the result is for them, I think they will be able to score goals in the second leg, but I can't say for sure whether they will make a comeback or not, it's hard to predict.

Chelsea is trying to buy many superstar players and soon they will have a stronger team but right now and regarding their match against Dortmund let's say they could win the last match against this team and the German star Karim Adeyemi scored an amazing goal for Dortmund while Chelsea couldn't do anything even Chelsea had more shots on target and more opportunities but still they lost the game and should try harder for next match in they play against Dortmund in Stamford Bridge later.

Actually, from the Chelsea vs Dortmund match, we can already see that there has been a good improvement in Chelsea's performance. But Dortmund, who are currently in their best performance, are certainly very difficult to beat. But in the second leg I think Chelsea can be even better. currently Graham potter is under pressure so he will definitely make a better strategy in the next match. to save himself and the club's reputation.

you are right Chelsea players played very well against Dortmund compared to the last matches. There has been a change in their match strategy. And the overall performance of the players was good. But they could not score any goals. Because the Dortmund team is very strong now. Dortmund's attack and defense are very strong. If Chelsea is to win the second leg and qualify for the quarter-finals, their forwards will need to perform well.

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Quote from: Despairo on February 18, 2023, 12:12:03 AM

Quote from: rendravolt on February 17, 2023, 11:51:43 PM

It is true that Benzema is experiencing physical fatigue and in the match against Osasuna in the domestic league it is likely that he will be absent to maintain his stamina and for the match against Liverpool in the UCL will be his priority. When talking about the Real Madrid vs Liverpool meeting in the UCL, it is very clear that Real Madrid has the advantage to win this match, even though there are problems in the context above, I think that there are still quite a lot of options for Real Madrid players so Ancelotti is not too bothered about this.

I'm not sure if Real Madrid have advantage to win against Liverpool, because if you look on the bookies, Real Madrid become an underdog. I think we need to see the result of Real Madrid vs Osasuna first, if Real Madrid can score at least 2 goals, I believe they have a good chance to beat Liverpool. Another problem Toni Kroos will be absent too, Tchouameni doesn't have stable performance like Kroos.

We also have another match between Frankfurt and Napoli, I strongly believe Napoli will win, the odds is high too for @2.12, a worthy match to make a bet.

Real Madrid become an underdog? are you kidding when you say that? I am a Liverpool supporter, but I have to be realistic when assessing the 2 teams that will compete. Yes, I expected a lot to see Liverpool win this match, but again, when I see my current team, it is a separate doubt for me to see Liverpool in this match. I only hope that Jurgen Klopp can come up with a surprise strategy that can bring Liverpool to the best results at the end of the match.

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besides that Chelsea also lost in the first leg which will make their players have to try hard in the second leg later. the advantage for chelsea is that they host the second leg so the opportunity is still wide open for them.

I don't think Chelsea will have an extra advantage in home matches. Chelsea managed to get 18 points in 10 Premier League home matches. The condition of the Chelsea team is now unstable. As a result, they also failed to take advantage of home matches. Not only are Chelsea's players out of form, their overall match strategy is also poor. In such circumstances, I think it is unlikely that Chelsea will win the second leg against Dortmund by a margin of 2-0. Because the Dortmund team is not weak. They are strong and experienced enough this season. And now their performance is stable. So I would say the second leg will be a draw. And Dortmund will qualify for the next round.

I don't deny that Chelsea are bad in the Premier League, but when I saw their performance in the first leg of the Champions League when they narrowly lost to Borussia Dortmund, I gave them more confidence. I think it was a different look from the Chelsea I usually see. One thing they have to fix is to try to play as effectively as possible so they don't waste too many chances in the second leg match later. Chelsea still have high hopes and it is true that homecoming in the second leg will give them an advantage.

Chelsea's performance in the first leg against Dortmund was not bad. They played very well. And they were able to create many good attacks and scoring chances. But due to the mistakes of the forward players, no goal can be scored. Also the performance of Dortmund's defenders was outstanding. And if Dortmund can maintain that performance in the second leg, I don't see Chelsea winning the match. Because Chelsea's attack is weak. Although the coach can solve the internal problems of the team, he needs an experienced striker to strengthen the attack.

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Chelsea must be able to create quick goals to make them equalize on aggregate first. Because if they can score a quick goal, it will increase their morale because they can make the game a draw again. Regardless of what the result is for them, I think they will be able to score goals in the second leg, but I can't say for sure whether they will make a comeback or not, it's hard to predict.

Chelsea is trying to buy many superstar players and soon they will have a stronger team but right now and regarding their match against Dortmund let's say they could win the last match against this team and the German star Karim Adeyemi scored an amazing goal for Dortmund while Chelsea couldn't do anything even Chelsea had more shots on target and more opportunities but still they lost the game and should try harder for next match in they play against Dortmund in Stamford Bridge later.

Actually, from the Chelsea vs Dortmund match, we can already see that there has been a good improvement in Chelsea's performance. But Dortmund, who are currently in their best performance, are certainly very difficult to beat. But in the second leg I think Chelsea can be even better. currently Graham potter is under pressure so he will definitely make a better strategy in the next match. to save himself and the club's reputation.

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Quote from: macson on February 18, 2023, 12:02:10 AM

Chelsea must be able to create quick goals to make them equalize on aggregate first. Because if they can score a quick goal, it will increase their morale because they can make the game a draw again. Regardless of what the result is for them, I think they will be able to score goals in the second leg, but I can't say for sure whether they will make a comeback or not, it's hard to predict.

Chelsea is trying to buy many superstar players and soon they will have a stronger team but right now and regarding their match against Dortmund let's say they could win the last match against this team and the German star Karim Adeyemi scored an amazing goal for Dortmund while Chelsea couldn't do anything even Chelsea had more shots on target and more opportunities but still they lost the game and should try harder for next match in they play against Dortmund in Stamford Bridge later.

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