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October 16, 2022, 06:03:39 PM
For Group E, Chelsea have stepped up and taken the lead thanks to two wins recently. Milan are disappointing this time but I still believe in them. They finished the group stage at the last place last season. I don't think a similar scenario will happen again. They are stronger than Salzburg and Dinamo Zagreb both. Even though Salzburg are ahead (by 2 pts) and Dinamo Zagreb share the points with them, Milan should still be able to defeat them both in the remaining games and continue in the Champions League.
In this group everyone still has a chance even though the biggest chances are Chelsea and Salzburg but it is possible that there will be surprises from Zagreb and Milan although it is a bit difficult but their chance is still there.
With its current performance, Chelsea might actually be able to breathe a little easier, not for Milan, because Milan is clearly under threat, although if you look at the first matches with Zagreb and Salzburg, they clearly have a big chance, but this is still not predictable.
Chelsea must win another match and it will go to the last 16. AC milan needs to work even harder than before caused by losing two times against chelsea has been giving a huge pressure for ac milan. That proves that if chelsea has the biggest chance to go the next stage. Chelsea may able to beat zagreb and salzburg with the current performance from the club. Im sure about this. It's caused by chelsea was always showing incredible performance during EPL.
I hope that chelsea will be winning the rest of matches easily without any problem.
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October 16, 2022, 03:38:43 PM
For Group E, Chelsea have stepped up and taken the lead thanks to two wins recently. Milan are disappointing this time but I still believe in them. They finished the group stage at the last place last season. I don't think a similar scenario will happen again. They are stronger than Salzburg and Dinamo Zagreb both. Even though Salzburg are ahead (by 2 pts) and Dinamo Zagreb share the points with them, Milan should still be able to defeat them both in the remaining games and continue in the Champions League.
In this group everyone still has a chance even though the biggest chances are Chelsea and Salzburg but it is possible that there will be surprises from Zagreb and Milan although it is a bit difficult but their chance is still there.
With its current performance, Chelsea might actually be able to breathe a little easier, not for Milan, because Milan is clearly under threat, although if you look at the first matches with Zagreb and Salzburg, they clearly have a big chance, but this is still not predictable.
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October 16, 2022, 03:09:50 PM
Looking at the current conditions of the groups, I can say that the most exciting and competitive ones are Group D and E.

In Group D, I really appreciate Marseille's incredible comeback. They started with two losses but they still didn't give up on anything. They defeated Sporting two times and took the second place. Marseille are already having a great season in the Ligue 1 and it looks like they can make it to next round here also. But the point difference between the 1st and last is only three. Therefore the balances can be upset even by only one week. I think that Tottenham will finish as the leader and Marseille will follow them.

For Group E, Chelsea have stepped up and taken the lead thanks to two wins recently. Milan are disappointing this time but I still believe in them. They finished the group stage at the last place last season. I don't think a similar scenario will happen again. They are stronger than Salzburg and Dinamo Zagreb both. Even though Salzburg are ahead (by 2 pts) and Dinamo Zagreb share the points with them, Milan should still be able to defeat them both in the remaining games and continue in the Champions League.
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October 16, 2022, 03:07:10 PM
Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.
It's better to fight alone than to have to determine the fate of the other team's match results, that sounds sad. Yes, that scenario is not easy for Barcelona with Viktoria Plzen's opponent being Inter Milan. They will also still face Bayern Munich which will surely be a tough game for them to win. Barcelona's meeting record with Bayern Munich is also not good, they always struggle and lose every time they meet.

Barcelona's luck has been very bad this season. Barcelona performed well in both matches against Inter Milan. Even then they are not able to score full points. Barcelona also had a good performance against Bayern Munich. They lost points due to poor defense. Barcelona lost today against Madrid due to poor defense. So if Barcelona can strengthen their defense in the next two matches, they have a chance to qualify for the next round of the Champions League.
I don't see the chance of Barcelona very high. In the Inter match, especially in the first 20 minutes, Barcelona played very hastily by compromising their own game and the performance of the forward attackers, especially Martinez, who had already cut their penalties with their counter attacks, was decisive. It is clear that Xavi has no Champions League experience as a manager. For example, if there was a coach like Ancelotti, who had Champions League experience, was cool and could act proactively according to the course of the match, they would win. The most important success of Real Madrid in this tournament lies here. They win the games they need to win. Since Ancelotti is one of the most important architects of Real's success, it is the first name that comes to mind when it comes to the Champions League, together with Real Madrid. So I found Barça's understanding of the game clumsy and inexperienced in a vital match that Barcelona must definitely win. The team has already looks bad. Gavi, Pedri, Ansufati, Dembele. Good, talented players too, but you can't compete with such inexperienced, rookie players in this tournament. Otherwise, you will unfortunately find yourself in the European league like last year and this year! In general, it was a fun, enjoyable and fast-paced match. I liked Martinez very much, Hakan Çalhanoğlu made a strong impression with his libero performance. Despite his age, Dzeko relieved his team by holding the ball very well in the future and became a very good wall against Barcelona's pressure.
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October 16, 2022, 02:48:55 PM
He's not kidding, he just being honest.

As you said Barcelona are filled in a tough group, do you think La Liga have many tough clubs than Barcelona and Real Madrid? Nope, that's why Barcelona can become top classement in La Liga right now. I'd say if Barcelona can't qualify for the next round because Bayern Munich and Inter Milan have higher score than Barcelona, it doesn't matter since if Barcelona can't beat the tough clubs on the group phase, how they can beat the tough clubs on the next rounds?

Any clubs are aiming to become a champion, not become the runner up, 3rd place and so on.
In this happened as a result of some of their players being injured simultaneously in their international matches.
Actually, if their condition is quite good in terms of players I personally still believe in them but when the condition of their players is like it is clear we can't talk much because no matter how good Xavi is, they will not be able to have many options when their players can't be played and this case is the same as what happened to Juventus now.
Now they have to accept the fact that with their players absent due to injury Xavi cannot take them to the next phase and this should serve as a lesson for Xavi as well that in order to be successful he must be prepared to deal with unwanted incidents like this by making several steps. Another backup plan that can be used when an emergency situation occurs such as an unexpected simultaneous injury to several players.
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October 16, 2022, 02:21:46 PM
Barcelona must be so lucky to be able to go to the last 16.
Im not even thinking if that's gonna happen with barcelona. It seems like the performance from the club in la liga doesn't affect the result in the champion league

Barca with Inter difference of 3 points. The next match is Inter vs Viktoria, I am very sure Inter will win the match. Considering the match at home to Inter, while Viktoria is also a weak club, they haven't even won yet. Thus Inter's points increased by 3, to 10 points. While Barca must serve Bayern. Of course, it is very difficult to win. But if Barca win, then Barca points to 7. This means that there is still a difference of 3 points with Inter.

In the next match, Barca served Viktoria. Of course Barca will win the game, so Barca's points increase by 3, and become 10 with the same points as Inter.
While Inter have to face Bayern, if Inter lose, then Inter points will be the same as Barca. However, it was Inter who advanced to the round of 16, because of the head-to-head between Inter vs. Barca, Inter won. So I conclude that Barca will not make it to the last 16.
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October 16, 2022, 02:20:50 PM
I'm looking forward to the Barcelona-Bayern game with great interest, not because I believe in Barcelona's comeback, but because it's interesting to see how Bayern will play this game without the motivation to win. I think even in such conditions they can win big.
I don't think Bayern Munich doesn't have any motivation to win against Barcelona, if they lose in this match, Barcelona has a chance to qualify for the next round since Barcelona will play against weak club while Inter Milan need to face Bayern Munich. If Barcelona losing this match, it's a sweet revenge by Bayern Munich since there's no chance for Barcelona to qualify for the next round. Lewandowski will sad here lol.

Until the last sentence, I could not understand what the "sweet revenge" would be for  Grin Barcelona is a stable supplier of points for Bayern and if the management of Bayern chose which to let Inter or Barcelona in the playoffs, then I'm sure they would choose Barcelona as a victory over them seems more reliable than over Inter. But the situation with Lewandowski completely changes the case, I agree. Bayern go further, and Lewandowski without Bayern goes only to the Europa League - sounds very mocking!
Lewandowski is one of the best players in the world, Lewandowski deserves a better club than Barcelona. It would be really sad for Lewandowski if Barcelona were to be eliminated from the Champions League altogether. If Barcelona are lucky enough to go through to the next round, they will be well on their way.

This is a wrong statement to make go about Robert Lewandoski, how will you say that Lewandoski doesn't deserve a team like Barcelona ? The bad thing about Barcelona currently is that they're not in a good form couple with the current injured players, how do you expect them to cope ?
Also, I do think they still some further additional attacking midfielder's, more of a better quality than what they have, I'm not okay with Gavi yet as that quality Innesta has at a tender age is much different than what I see before now.

Barcelona have always been a top quality tram and same as Robert Lewandoski, when everything gets better Robert Lewandoski will start scoring, I see you're in a hurry to make your post here. Cry
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October 16, 2022, 01:10:25 PM
Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.
It's better to fight alone than to have to determine the fate of the other team's match results, that sounds sad. Yes, that scenario is not easy for Barcelona with Viktoria Plzen's opponent being Inter Milan. They will also still face Bayern Munich which will surely be a tough game for them to win. Barcelona's meeting record with Bayern Munich is also not good, they always struggle and lose every time they meet.

Barcelona's luck has been very bad this season. Barcelona performed well in both matches against Inter Milan. Even then they are not able to score full points. Barcelona also had a good performance against Bayern Munich. They lost points due to poor defense. Barcelona lost today against Madrid due to poor defense. So if Barcelona can strengthen their defense in the next two matches, they have a chance to qualify for the next round of the Champions League.
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October 16, 2022, 12:40:10 PM
The real problem is the injury some time ago in the international game of his players which made them slump immediately.
Actually in terms of performance especially at the start of the season they played really well but after losing a few players obviously this made a difference.

Lewandowski is short on supply in attack, their defense is not working well and the biggest problem is the unstable defense and lots of gaps.
But indeed this is likely only temporary because when some players recover clearly this is something that can indeed be good news for them.
We also shouldn't expect a manager, who came in at the half of the season last year, had maybe like a one or two temporary players that fits his system, then at the summer he got some more players for good this time, and be good after just 2 months.

Dude needs time to make the team better, but to be fair they are not bad neither, they are still by far better than the Koeman times, I mean the group they failed to go up last year was Bayern again that's true but it was Benfica instead of Inter and maybe they are close but Inter feels better. Right now, all they need is time to build chemistry, and I guarantee you that Xavi will many cups with them in this decade.
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October 16, 2022, 11:57:52 AM
Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.

I think it would actually be a real surprise if Barcelona manages to get into the knockout phase of the Champions League, because it no longer depends on itself and its results and does not play convincingly.
Apart from that, I don't think they have much chance to beat Bayern, who are currently a much better team, and Inter will surely not miss the opportunity to beat Victoria and secure the second place in the group.
The Europa League is a completely irrelevant, second-rate competition for Barcelona from a footballing and financial point of view and I don't expect that competition to be a priority for them.

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October 16, 2022, 09:32:49 AM
Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.
It's better to fight alone than to have to determine the fate of the other team's match results, that sounds sad. Yes, that scenario is not easy for Barcelona with Viktoria Plzen's opponent being Inter Milan. They will also still face Bayern Munich which will surely be a tough game for them to win. Barcelona's meeting record with Bayern Munich is also not good, they always struggle and lose every time they meet.
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October 16, 2022, 09:21:54 AM
Ajax really deserve no more than the Europa League at the moment. I haven't seen them this much weak in even offense until the group stage. After a good start against Rangers things started to terrible for them suddenly. I was like they would compete with Napoli to take the 2nd spot in the group. But now Napoli are leading it and Ajax are a disappointment.

I know that Ajax have made important changes in their squad before the season started. But they still have solid players in the lineup and their performance in the Eredivisie hasn't changed much. It is all about the Champions League now.
Change of coach and selling of many quality players for money is surely having big impact on their performance in this season, and they are losing matches very badly just first match for something good for them, and then they have good performance against Liverpool, but Napoli expose their weakness badly and punish them badly which is surely going to be terrible for them, and now they have tough challenge in Dutch League as well with all top rank teams are giving their best which is bringing hard time for them in coming season.

Most chances after exit from Champions League their target could be at local league because this can give them good time for better strategy and having changes in their squad for next season, right now they are badly down and out of competition and have no enough chance for staying into good position for any big cup.
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October 16, 2022, 09:18:58 AM
Lewandowski is one of the best players in the world, Lewandowski deserves a better club than Barcelona. It would be really sad for Lewandowski if Barcelona were to be eliminated from the Champions League altogether. If Barcelona are lucky enough to go through to the next round, they will be well on their way.
It's not only him that will be disappointed when barcelona can't go to the last 16 but the club itself will be loosing a lot of income from champion league. This will give a very bad impact to the club as well. I meant this clubs needs money. Champion league will give a decent money to the club. That's why when barcelona goes to the europa league and this will make all of its players and club feel disappointed. Barcelona must have defeated bayern to make it happen otherwise when barcelona lose and that will be a disaster for the club. i think that almost all of barcelona fans are hoping a lot about that.
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October 16, 2022, 09:11:04 AM
Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.
Most chances now Barcelona could be out of the Champions League with they are trying their best for having better result in La Liga because right now their main focus is on this league instead of Champions League where they have never been lucky like Real Madrid and here Victoria Plenz is not able to help them because they already have conceded 16 goals in their four games and have no chance against Inter to win this match which is surely going to give them a place into next round of Champions League.

After exit from here they could be dropped to Europa Cup where they were in last season as well, and they lost their matches which was clearly indicating they are not interested in this competition as well so most chances they could be in La Liga for the rest of the season and then in next season we can expect better result from them because right now their focus is only one La Liga.
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October 16, 2022, 09:00:23 AM
I think atletico and juventus are the most surprising results so far, we all have seen how milan are performing in the european competitiond and in a group with chelsea and salsburg two experienced teams in the champions league i was kinda expecting them to have big trouble, still milan and atletico has a great chance to make it to the next phase.
Juventus really has bad performance in UCL, they can only make 1 victory and lost 3 times. There are only two matches reminding and I don't think they can make it good. moreover, they will face PSG at the end of the round match. This will be a hard and tough match to win.
So does Atletico Madrid. Porto is a quite good club that has performed well enough so far. But, the result is still unpredictable moreover because Atletico Madrid sometimes plays unpredictably worse.

 
Juventus certainly will not qualifying because they only get 3 points from 3 matches and next match against Benfica it's quite hard to get win from Benfica at their home ground and to qualifying Benfica only needed draw result from this match so their position is more comfortable compared to Juventus and in my opinion Juventus high achievement on group stage will be at 3rd and playing at Europa League on the other hand Atletico chance is not completely lost so they still have any chance to qualifying if Atletico won from Leverkusen on week 5 and their destiny will be determined on week 6 against Porto
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October 16, 2022, 08:57:48 AM
I'm looking forward to the Barcelona-Bayern game with great interest, not because I believe in Barcelona's comeback, but because it's interesting to see how Bayern will play this game without the motivation to win. I think even in such conditions they can win big.
I don't think Bayern Munich doesn't have any motivation to win against Barcelona, if they lose in this match, Barcelona has a chance to qualify for the next round since Barcelona will play against weak club while Inter Milan need to face Bayern Munich. If Barcelona losing this match, it's a sweet revenge by Bayern Munich since there's no chance for Barcelona to qualify for the next round. Lewandowski will sad here lol.

Until the last sentence, I could not understand what the "sweet revenge" would be for  Grin Barcelona is a stable supplier of points for Bayern and if the management of Bayern chose which to let Inter or Barcelona in the playoffs, then I'm sure they would choose Barcelona as a victory over them seems more reliable than over Inter. But the situation with Lewandowski completely changes the case, I agree. Bayern go further, and Lewandowski without Bayern goes only to the Europa League - sounds very mocking!
Lewandowski is one of the best players in the world, Lewandowski deserves a better club than Barcelona. It would be really sad for Lewandowski if Barcelona were to be eliminated from the Champions League altogether. If Barcelona are lucky enough to go through to the next round, they will be well on their way.
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October 16, 2022, 08:47:51 AM
I won't be expecting a huge improvement from Barcelona defense against Bayern Munich. The players wouldn't be very motivated to do so either if Inter finish off Plzen earlier in the day. If you've checked already, Inter - Plzen match is going to be played and end before Barcelona's match starts. In case Inter win that match the dream is over for Barcelona. This will surely come back hard to them in terms of finances as well.

This is all Barcelona's fault in the end as they couldn't stay solid from the beginning. I was pretty sure about them to qualify for next round before the group matches started. I was even thinking about whether they would manage to be the leader at the end. But they are about to visit the Europa League two times in a row now.
This is a tough one for Barcelona especially at this moment when this win means so much to them and their hopes of qualification to the next round. I am doubtful Barcelona will be able to get this win playing against Bayern Munich. If it was some other team I would be relaxed and say “oh it's a win for Barcelona” but not in this case I think it will take a miracle for Xavi to pull this one through.
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October 16, 2022, 08:39:37 AM
I'm looking forward to the Barcelona-Bayern game with great interest, not because I believe in Barcelona's comeback, but because it's interesting to see how Bayern will play this game without the motivation to win. I think even in such conditions they can win big.
I don't think Bayern Munich doesn't have any motivation to win against Barcelona, if they lose in this match, Barcelona has a chance to qualify for the next round since Barcelona will play against weak club while Inter Milan need to face Bayern Munich. If Barcelona losing this match, it's a sweet revenge by Bayern Munich since there's no chance for Barcelona to qualify for the next round. Lewandowski will sad here lol.

Until the last sentence, I could not understand what the "sweet revenge" would be for  Grin Barcelona is a stable supplier of points for Bayern and if the management of Bayern chose which to let Inter or Barcelona in the playoffs, then I'm sure they would choose Barcelona as a victory over them seems more reliable than over Inter. But the situation with Lewandowski completely changes the case, I agree. Bayern go further, and Lewandowski without Bayern goes only to the Europa League - sounds very mocking!
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October 16, 2022, 04:08:51 AM

This season they actually played much better but there are still many problems that must be solved by Xavi Hernandez. The problem is still felt so that it makes it difficult for them to get out of this group stage. They have to be more effective and not waste many chances, because from what I see from their game, Barcelona is still struggling to convert chances into goals. And also the depth of their squad is still not balanced, if their main player can't play it creates a gap that can be exposed by the opponent. So in the upcoming transfer market, Xavi should be able to overhaul the players he currently has.

Xavi has not stabilized the Barcelona squad yet. Barcelona's defenders are performing very well in La Liga. But their performance against Bayern Munich and Inter in the Champions League is very poor. Without consistency in performance, the team will not be stable.
Barcelona has talented players like Lewandowski, Raphinha and Dembele in their attacking lineup. Even then, Xavi is not able to extract the expected performance from them. Xavi should have experimented more with his team and developed a stable and strong match strategy. I don't think Barcelona's match strategy is good. If the match strategy was good, Barcelona would not have shown such a bad performance in the Champions League.
The real problem is the injury some time ago in the international game of his players which made them slump immediately.
Actually in terms of performance especially at the start of the season they played really well but after losing a few players obviously this made a difference.

Lewandowski is short on supply in attack, their defense is not working well and the biggest problem is the unstable defense and lots of gaps.
But indeed this is likely only temporary because when some players recover clearly this is something that can indeed be good news for them.
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October 16, 2022, 01:37:18 AM
Barcelona's chances are on the edge, the scenario for Barcelona to qualify for the next round requires the help of Victoria Plenz, and luck. but it seems difficult for Plenz to hold Inter Milan to a draw, especially in the match Inter will be the home team.
not much can be expected from Barcelona, ​​but at least they have to win the game when they host Bayern Munich at Camp Nou.  at least, in that game they will bet prestige.
even if they fail in the champions league, I'm not sure Xavi's attention will be on the Europa league competition. however, more to win the domestic league.
Barcelona actually has double problem, before you think that they need help from Victoria Plzen, that is for Victoria Plzen to win Inter Milan. Also know that Barcelona need to help themselves also by winning Bayern Munich first. I can say that it is easier for Barcelona to win Bayern Munich than for Plzen to win Inter Milan in Italy. It is better we assume that Barcelona will not qualify for the next round of the Champions League, no need of keeping hopes alive.
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