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It's true that anything is possible in football but the problem is when we look at the current state of Barcelona and Inter it's clear the difference is still big even though they are big teams.
Currently Inzaghi is in a bad condition because Inter's performance is not going well and this will obviously affect their performance.
I'll still be in Barcelona on this.

I would bet on Barcelona as well and I agree that anything could happen, but let's not forget that Barcelona is a freshly built team, a lot of their players came during the summer transfer window, some of them even later, which means that they haven't had the time to build chemistry yet which shows itself time to time, especially during the Bayern game for example.

So, if there is any chance for Inter to win, it is now because on the second leg there could be a better Barcelona who played together for a while now and built the bond inside the team, Inter needs to get points from this or they are going to end up losing a lot worse on the second game for sure.

Indeed this can be said to be true because with the current time especially with new players obviously there has to be a chemistry to build but looking at them at the moment although it is still not completely solid but I think it is very good for now.
Inter's chances are clearly difficult now because at the moment Inzaghi is still hot from his seat considering Inter's current performance is still far from good

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I'm surprised that people talk about Chelsea's chances in Champions League for more than two pages long here. I don't even think they are in top 12 contenders if I'd list them. Most people think Chelsea would qualify this group with Milan but their loss against Dinamo Zagreb and a draw with Salzburg already made it harder for them. Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

I don't think, Chelsea will demonstrate well in this season because they are experiencing many challenges in the club that will make them not to achieve anything from this season. If small teams can defeated mighty Chelsea in this season, showed that many things has changed negatively in the club which their new coach need to solve on time to bring progress to the club like the way Manchester united new coach changed Manchester united positively in this season. If Chelsea can improve in the areas of defense and midfield before their remaining matches, no doubt they will definitely achieve something good from this tournament.

The expectations for Chelsea this season shouldn't be high both in English Premier League and in champions league. The mistake of Chelsea was to sack Tuchel, I am.habing the feelings that they will regret it. It doesn't mean that Potter is not a good coach, but I think he needs time to introduce his pattern to the team and that time is not there for him. It would have been easier for Tuchel to upturn the poor form of Chelsea than any other coach.

Chelsea was not patient enough to give Tuchel sometime to fixed the team in order so they had to sack him. Chelsea took a risk by removing him not considering to know if the new coach will be able to make the team to be in a good form. It is not an easy job for new coach to change the performance of a team within a short time, sometime it can take a coach if not the whole of a season trying to fixed the team better. The probability of Chelsea securing a better position in Premier league and champions league is high, am not surprised if they are being defeated by small teams.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on September 21, 2022, 11:59:34 PM

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I'm surprised that people talk about Chelsea's chances in Champions League for more than two pages long here. I don't even think they are in top 12 contenders if I'd list them. Most people think Chelsea would qualify this group with Milan but their loss against Dinamo Zagreb and a draw with Salzburg already made it harder for them. Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

I don't think, Chelsea will demonstrate well in this season because they are experiencing many challenges in the club that will make them not to achieve anything from this season. If small teams can defeated mighty Chelsea in this season, showed that many things has changed negatively in the club which their new coach need to solve on time to bring progress to the club like the way Manchester united new coach changed Manchester united positively in this season. If Chelsea can improve in the areas of defense and midfield before their remaining matches, no doubt they will definitely achieve something good from this tournament.

The expectations for Chelsea this season shouldn't be high both in English Premier League and in champions league. The mistake of Chelsea was to sack Tuchel, I am.habing the feelings that they will regret it. It doesn't mean that Potter is not a good coach, but I think he needs time to introduce his pattern to the team and that time is not there for him. It would have been easier for Tuchel to upturn the poor form of Chelsea than any other coach.

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But the fact is always different, in fact, just look at Chelsea now that they are not so dominant because they have never won in two UCL matches in the EPL and Chelsea still haven't found an exit point for a straight path where the victory is obtained but this result is still not optimal.
For me, the Champions League is different, meaning that we think that a small team can beat the team above it because the game in the UCL is really tight, it can turn around, including Chelsea who are still not capable, even though what we see is that they can qualify in this group phase.
However Chelsea still have a wide chance of qualifying, as long as the upcoming match wins and wins so on, that's just Graham Potter how to do it.

Left 3 points from Milan right now I think not difficult situation faced by Chelsea although still not won in last two match after 1 draw and 1 lost of two games. However next match Chelsea vs Milan become crucial match for Chelsea if want keep existing in Champion League until to the next round. I think Graham Potter have many days for evaluating his player ready fight with Milan and won this games if wont left Champion League early.

Chelsea can lead first standing position awhile in Group E if success win from Milan and another games between Salzburg vs Dynamo Zagreb have draw. If next match win from Milan will easy for Chelsea keep lead to next round but will difficult choose keep failure take 3 points full on third games in Champion League.

Currently, Chelsea is at the bottom of the group, so if they do not win, they will definitely be in trouble. I actually thought that Milan was going to be the main competitor for Chelsea before the season started. But Chelsea is now absolutely at the bottom of the table, and they have been unable to win either of the two matches that they have played so far. There is a good chance that Chelsea will be able to make a comeback. At the moment, the only problem they are facing is that they are still in a rebuilding phase.

As soon as they start performing consistently, I do not think that there is anything to worry about. However, I am not convinced about their strategy under Potter, so I am still very skeptical that they will actually improve.

I think this rebuilding phase is taking to long,beside that they are very poor in attack and in Champions League the attack is the primary "department" that gives you the goals and wins which are vital here.As long as Chelsea continues to have problems to score goals even in the Premier League against weaker opponents then in Champions League we should expect them to not do any better and most likely the maximum they can achieve as I said is a place in Europa League but even that has a big question mark for now.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on September 21, 2022, 11:03:07 AM

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But the fact is always different, in fact, just look at Chelsea now that they are not so dominant because they have never won in two UCL matches in the EPL and Chelsea still haven't found an exit point for a straight path where the victory is obtained but this result is still not optimal.
For me, the Champions League is different, meaning that we think that a small team can beat the team above it because the game in the UCL is really tight, it can turn around, including Chelsea who are still not capable, even though what we see is that they can qualify in this group phase.
However Chelsea still have a wide chance of qualifying, as long as the upcoming match wins and wins so on, that's just Graham Potter how to do it.

Left 3 points from Milan right now I think not difficult situation faced by Chelsea although still not won in last two match after 1 draw and 1 lost of two games. However next match Chelsea vs Milan become crucial match for Chelsea if want keep existing in Champion League until to the next round. I think Graham Potter have many days for evaluating his player ready fight with Milan and won this games if wont left Champion League early.

Chelsea can lead first standing position awhile in Group E if success win from Milan and another games between Salzburg vs Dynamo Zagreb have draw. If next match win from Milan will easy for Chelsea keep lead to next round but will difficult choose keep failure take 3 points full on third games in Champion League.

Currently, Chelsea is at the bottom of the group, so if they do not win, they will definitely be in trouble. I actually thought that Milan was going to be the main competitor for Chelsea before the season started. But Chelsea is now absolutely at the bottom of the table, and they have been unable to win either of the two matches that they have played so far. There is a good chance that Chelsea will be able to make a comeback. At the moment, the only problem they are facing is that they are still in a rebuilding phase.

As soon as they start performing consistently, I do not think that there is anything to worry about. However, I am not convinced about their strategy under Potter, so I am still very skeptical that they will actually improve.

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I'm surprised that people talk about Chelsea's chances in Champions League for more than two pages long here. I don't even think they are in top 12 contenders if I'd list them. Most people think Chelsea would qualify this group with Milan but their loss against Dinamo Zagreb and a draw with Salzburg already made it harder for them. Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

I don't think, Chelsea will demonstrate well in this season because they are experiencing many challenges in the club that will make them not to achieve anything from this season. If small teams can defeated mighty Chelsea in this season, showed that many things has changed negatively in the club which their new coach need to solve on time to bring progress to the club like the way Manchester united new coach changed Manchester united positively in this season. If Chelsea can improve in the areas of defense and midfield before their remaining matches, no doubt they will definitely achieve something good from this tournament.

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Quote from: bering on September 21, 2022, 11:28:36 PM

I noticed this is their worst performance from the last 10 years on champion league because before this usually Juventus always went to the next round and apparently this season isn't belongs to them and i will say Juventus one of the big team who probably will not go to knockout stage this season because lose 2 times in a row makes their position is hard to bounce back even we all know at their domestic league Juventus also have poor performance so in my opinion Juventus is done at this competition and their realistic position is only 3rd

I wouldn't judge Juventus so quickly because there are 4 games in the group stage that might still be used to earn points. There are still at least 12 points up for grabs between the 6 teams in the group stage before 2 teams qualify for the round of 16 and 1 other team goes down to the Europa League.

Juventus couldn't relax any longer with this poor form and I firmly believe that Allegri will make many changes so that the team's performance can be better. In Serie A Juventus also dropped points, but that shouldn't affect their form in the Champions League too much.

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Quote from: hahay on September 21, 2022, 12:35:44 PM

The other sick team in the group stage this time is Juventus, but even though Juventus have not got any points because the opponent is PSG and only lost 2-1, but losing at home by Benfica with a score of 2-1 is certainly not the expected result. When compared to Chelsea, at least the opponents facing Juventus are of better quality especially with PSG, both teams Juventus and Chelsea were projected to qualify for the group at the time of the draw but in reality they slipped too far. Who would have thought this would happen to them, for Chelsea I am personally a little optimistic that Chelsea will still qualify but for Juventus, I am already pessimistic about Juventus.

I noticed this is their worst performance from the last 10 years on champion league because before this usually Juventus always went to the next round and apparently this season isn't belongs to them and i will say Juventus one of the big team who probably will not go to knockout stage this season because lose 2 times in a row makes their position is hard to bounce back even we all know at their domestic league Juventus also have poor performance so in my opinion Juventus is done at this competition and their realistic position is only 3rd

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Quote from: ingiltere on September 21, 2022, 12:23:04 PM

Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

that's better rather than expect nothing to come from him. Yeah he was new but it's his responsibility to bring chelsea to go to the next stage even he was a new coach and it doesn't matter a lot. I think that you must also aware about this too.
Chelse was hiring him caused by chelsea's management believes in him. I think that's fair to expect big thing from him in a short time. Chelsea was also paying him to work. That's his responsibility over his new club.

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Quote from: hahay on September 21, 2022, 09:50:26 AM

Basically Chelsea are in a group where Chelsea can be group winners, Milan, Zagreb and Salzburg are basically of lower quality than Chelsea. Therefore, if it is about the results on paper then of course Chelsea will be able to win the group and also, if you relate it is a weak or strong group then I can say this is an easy group for Chelsea. But the reality is not as easy as imagined because even Chelsea are in the bottom position and still haven't won a match from the two opponents they have faced, both of which are clearly below Chelsea's quality.

The potential is there, they could be leaders of that group, but unfortunately they have been playing badly all season so far, and I wouldn't be shocked to see them second, I doubt third would be possible that's a stretch but nothing is impossible in football.

So far they got one tie and one loss, and at the bottom of the group, and there are 4 more games left which means if they win all four then they would be leaders, but they look like they are not going to do that at all, they look like they would barely go to europa if they keep this up. I feel like there is an urgent need for them to get better and because of that it is going to be tough to have even a little mistake.

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Quote from: ingiltere on September 21, 2022, 12:23:04 PM

I'm surprised that people talk about Chelsea's chances in Champions League for more than two pages long here. I don't even think they are in top 12 contenders if I'd list them. Most people think Chelsea would qualify this group with Milan but their loss against Dinamo Zagreb and a draw with Salzburg already made it harder for them. Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

They don't even have creative midfielder's, not even a top number nine as Erling Haaland of Manchester City. They have a lot of work to do. They shouldn't just bring in player's, they should bring in the right player's who can rep the club.
Graham Potter might turn the odds all round, since he has done well at Leicester City, I believe he can still at Chelsea. Chelsea should just expect some downs this season coz they won't be as they was last season.

In the Champions League ? That's laughable, how do they analyse football ? There are top clubs far better than Chelsea currently, they are not on line for that competition no shades.

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Quote from: AakZaki on September 21, 2022, 02:36:32 PM

There was a pause of almost 2 weeks more. This week there is no UCL schedule and we will be back in October. Quite a long pause. The top clubs can concentrate in their respective Leagues.

Apart from the Champions League, then I think you should know that the domestic leagues are also on a hiatus considering there is a UEFA National League competition going on.

Champions League is coming back in October and I think we will be looking forward to some interesting match, especially for the big teams. Manchester City, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool, PSG, Bayern Munich are some of the teams whose matches I'm looking forward to.

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There was a pause of almost 2 weeks more. This week there is no UCL schedule and we will be back in October. Quite a long pause. The top clubs can concentrate in their respective Leagues.
The 3rd game of october doesn't seem to have a big enough game. Maybe Chelsea against Milan was quite an interesting game for me. Madrid, PSG, Munich, Man City didn't have a big opponent, I think they were capable of winning.

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The next two games are Chelsea vs Milan and Milan vs Chelsea we will see how Chelsea will win at Stamford Bridge or win at San Siro or both will lose, but we don't know which one is clear yet, Milan is in its best performance at the moment in GROUP E.
Because these two games are very important for Chelsea to get points so they can qualify but if they fail then the chances will be difficult but for real we still hope for Chelsea to win these two games or at least win with Zegreb and Salzburg

Currently, Chelsea is surely under pressure with their performance in Premier League and Champions League both because they are not giving performance which was expected, and they have chances for qualifying into next round but for this surely they have to perform very good against AC Milan in these both matches which are going to be tough for them and surely deciding can they go through, or their journey is going to be ended here with managements bad decision about sack of Tuchel which was doing good job, but they sacked and not giving him time for having better strategy.

AC Milan is not easy team as they are doing good job in the Italian League and Champions League, and they will play without pressure as they have some good results and these are helping them for having good chances for going into next round, so they can steal points from Chelsea in their both games.

Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group phase are arguably very heavy. Chelsea's hope to pursue full points in the next two matches is not an easy matter, the opponent they face is AC Milan which will certainly make it difficult for the Blues. With four games remaining, Chelsea's road to qualifying for the group is steep, only a win can help them. Chelsea fans are certainly very worried about the performance of their favorite team this season.

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Quote from: SirLancelot on September 21, 2022, 12:32:21 PM

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The next two games are Chelsea vs Milan and Milan vs Chelsea we will see how Chelsea will win at Stamford Bridge or win at San Siro or both will lose, but we don't know which one is clear yet, Milan is in its best performance at the moment in GROUP E.
Because these two games are very important for Chelsea to get points so they can qualify but if they fail then the chances will be difficult but for real we still hope for Chelsea to win these two games or at least win with Zegreb and Salzburg

Currently, Chelsea is surely under pressure with their performance in Premier League and Champions League both because they are not giving performance which was expected, and they have chances for qualifying into next round but for this surely they have to perform very good against AC Milan in these both matches which are going to be tough for them and surely deciding can they go through, or their journey is going to be ended here with managements bad decision about sack of Tuchel which was doing good job, but they sacked and not giving him time for having better strategy.

AC Milan is not easy team as they are doing good job in the Italian League and Champions League, and they will play without pressure as they have some good results and these are helping them for having good chances for going into next round, so they can steal points from Chelsea in their both games.

The most important thing is how Chelsea must win both matches with Milan, of course this is a more challenging challenge, especially when Chelsea is faced with a very tight match with the Premier League on the other hand Chelsea must focus on the UCL to qualify and after all Graham Potter must be able to do it because he has been appointed a new coach after Tuchel was sacked due to defeat in the UCL.
AC Milan has calmed down a bit they already have 4 point compared to Chelsea just one point, this is a really tough step but we know that Chelsea and Milan are more favorites to qualify for the next phase because this group is not a definite country Chelsea's performance must be better fine if you want to skip this.

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The other sick team in the group stage this time is Juventus, but even though Juventus have not got any points because the opponent is PSG and only lost 2-1, but losing at home by Benfica with a score of 2-1 is certainly not the expected result. When compared to Chelsea, at least the opponents facing Juventus are of better quality especially with PSG, both teams Juventus and Chelsea were projected to qualify for the group at the time of the draw but in reality they slipped too far. Who would have thought this would happen to them, for Chelsea I am personally a little optimistic that Chelsea will still qualify but for Juventus, I am already pessimistic about Juventus.

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Quote from: salad daging on September 21, 2022, 11:55:32 AM

The next two games are Chelsea vs Milan and Milan vs Chelsea we will see how Chelsea will win at Stamford Bridge or win at San Siro or both will lose, but we don't know which one is clear yet, Milan is in its best performance at the moment in GROUP E.
Because these two games are very important for Chelsea to get points so they can qualify but if they fail then the chances will be difficult but for real we still hope for Chelsea to win these two games or at least win with Zegreb and Salzburg

Currently, Chelsea is surely under pressure with their performance in Premier League and Champions League both because they are not giving performance which was expected, and they have chances for qualifying into next round but for this surely they have to perform very good against AC Milan in these both matches which are going to be tough for them and surely deciding can they go through, or their journey is going to be ended here with managements bad decision about sack of Tuchel which was doing good job, but they sacked and not giving him time for having better strategy.

AC Milan is not easy team as they are doing good job in the Italian League and Champions League, and they will play without pressure as they have some good results and these are helping them for having good chances for going into next round, so they can steal points from Chelsea in their both games.

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I'm surprised that people talk about Chelsea's chances in Champions League for more than two pages long here. I don't even think they are in top 12 contenders if I'd list them. Most people think Chelsea would qualify this group with Milan but their loss against Dinamo Zagreb and a draw with Salzburg already made it harder for them. Their group is relatively easier but they failed in first two matches and now they have to put extra effort to win games. Even if they managed to turn this situation they would get crushed in next round. There are a lot of great teams that fight for the title. This is Graham Potter's first experience in big clubs. It's not like managing Brighton & Hove Albion. He needs time and experience. It's unfair to expect big things from him in first season.

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A very optimistic prediction considering Chelsea's past games and their results.
In this group, Milan has shown the most so far and they are deservedly the first in the group. I think that Chelsea will have two very difficult games against Milan and that they will have a much better chance in the duels against Salzburg and Dinamo.
In order to pass to the knockout stage of the Champions League, they will most likely need 9 points and if Chelsea fails to beat Milan in the next two games, they will find themselves in a very difficult situation.

You're right, Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group stage are highly dependent on the results of the next two match. Chelsea need points and they need to win in the next two match, but Milan and Dinamo Zagreb are not easy opponents. Salzburg also cannot be underestimated because Chelsea's current condition can't really be seeded.

But I would like if Chelsea and Milan qualified for the last 16 round rather than either of bSalzburg or Dinamo Zagreb. So the Potters are really working hard to make the most of all the next match, that's what they have to win.

The next two games are Chelsea vs Milan and Milan vs Chelsea we will see how Chelsea will win at Stamford Bridge or win at San Siro or both will lose, but we don't know which one is clear yet, Milan is in its best performance at the moment in GROUP E.
Because these two games are very important for Chelsea to get points so they can qualify but if they fail then the chances will be difficult but for real we still hope for Chelsea to win these two games or at least win with Zegreb and Salzburg

Chelsea are having a hard time, as are many English clubs, while in Italy football is now at a high level and Milan are performing well in both the Champions League and Serie A. I think that in their current condition Chelsea will lose both matches or draw the home one. In any case, Milan look much stronger than Chelsea. Even in the Premier League, Chelsea are losing to the underdogs, not to mention Milan.

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Quote from: skarais on September 21, 2022, 11:01:46 AM

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A very optimistic prediction considering Chelsea's past games and their results.
In this group, Milan has shown the most so far and they are deservedly the first in the group. I think that Chelsea will have two very difficult games against Milan and that they will have a much better chance in the duels against Salzburg and Dinamo.
In order to pass to the knockout stage of the Champions League, they will most likely need 9 points and if Chelsea fails to beat Milan in the next two games, they will find themselves in a very difficult situation.

You're right, Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group stage are highly dependent on the results of the next two match. Chelsea need points and they need to win in the next two match, but Milan and Dinamo Zagreb are not easy opponents. Salzburg also cannot be underestimated because Chelsea's current condition can't really be seeded.

But I would like if Chelsea and Milan qualified for the last 16 round rather than either of bSalzburg or Dinamo Zagreb. So the Potters are really working hard to make the most of all the next match, that's what they have to win.

The next two games are Chelsea vs Milan and Milan vs Chelsea we will see how Chelsea will win at Stamford Bridge or win at San Siro or both will lose, but we don't know which one is clear yet, Milan is in its best performance at the moment in GROUP E.
Because these two games are very important for Chelsea to get points so they can qualify but if they fail then the chances will be difficult but for real we still hope for Chelsea to win these two games or at least win with Zegreb and Salzburg

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