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Quote from: Joca97 on September 22, 2022, 12:40:56 PM

Chelsea have a really difficult job to do in the champions league but with how the weak the group is i think they will pass easily. Its only two point difference between them and Dinamo Zagreb and i think that they will easily pass because i dont think that Dinamo and Salzburg can continue good results inside the group

In fact, though, it seems that Group E doesn't have too many strong teams. If Chelsea were in the same form as they were last season, I would definitely say they are champions of Group E. But Chelsea is not in good form now. Moreover, Salzburg and Dinamo Zagreb teams cannot be called weak. They are a strong enough team in their own league. AC Milan will top Group E, I'm sure. If Chelsea is able to return to form, they may be able to grab second place at the table. Otherwise, Dinamo Zagreb has the best chance of qualifying for the next round from second place in the table. They are performing quite well. And they are quite tricky. Dinamo Zagreb will try their best to go to the next round.

Chelsea was a good side, and they were able to do amazing things under former Russian owner, but suddenly change of owner bring some mess up and now change of Thomas Tuchel is surely brought more issues because they fail to do better under new coach Potter and most chances in this season they are going to be down and out from their targets even they have few quality players but giving them proper system is also very important, and it's not easy for anyone in current situation.

In first two games they completely fail to give any impression and have only one point with now after break they are going to face AC Milan which is in good touch and can give them tough challenge in both matches but if Chelsea able to steal points then surely it's going to be good for them and their future.

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It seems to me that Chelsea will take at least 4 points in the games against Milan and then win the rest of the games. Last season, after the first two rounds, there were also very interesting situations in some groups, but then by the end of the group tournament, everything returned to normal. If I remember correctly, only Barcelona and Milan lost their "guaranteed" playoff tickets. Given the fact that Dinamo and Salzburg are far from Benfica in strength, their chances are small and rather they compete only for 3rd place.

A very optimistic prediction considering Chelsea's past games and their results.
In this group, Milan has shown the most so far and they are deservedly the first in the group. I think that Chelsea will have two very difficult games against Milan and that they will have a much better chance in the duels against Salzburg and Dinamo.
In order to pass to the knockout stage of the Champions League, they will most likely need 9 points and if Chelsea fails to beat Milan in the next two games, they will find themselves in a very difficult situation.

This is not only my opinion, most recently the bookmakers' quotes were in favor of Chelsea. Now they have changed:

UEFA Champions League - Group E - Winner

Milan 1.77

Chelsea 2.55

But as you can see, the advantage of Milan is not very strongly reflected in the odds, and if Chelsea wins in the first game, I am sure that the odds will immediately change in a mirror way (although formally the teams will have the same number of points).

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The opportunity is still there and also still very open for Chelsea. But Chelsea also needs to look at their own strengths at this time in order to win with the opponents they will face later, because Chelsea cannot think of AC Milan as an ordinary opponent, even AC Milan can still surprise in a match in the Champions League. this time despite having only managed to win once in two matches in Group E of the Champions League this season.

To keep the chance of qualifying for the next round, Chelsea must be able to win over AC Milan because Dinamo Zagreb in the next match will be against Salzburg who have the same desire to get a win to maintain a safe position in the group E standings.
1. AC Milan (4)
2. Dinamo Zagreb (3)
3. Salzburg (2)
4. Chelsea (1)
A very difficult journey for Chelsea this season in the Champions League.

I think we have to see what Chelsea's potential is in the future, whether this will be able to finish well to qualify or will it be more difficult as you never imagined, because what I believe in this preliminary phase usually the players will work harder to win every game. in order to get points in every home and away meeting.

Actually this is hard to imagine for Chelsea who are facing complexities but believe me Graham Potter is a coach who can work hard to achieve it not only in the UCL in the EPL but will immediately change the old scheme to a new one to start it.

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I guess, there is still time for Chelsea to prove to the whole world that they can still change the game to demonstrate well before the end of the season because some of the talented players their formal coach signed into the team will still prove to Chelsea fans that there is still hope for the team to lead the UEFA champions league competition, Chelsea coach will definitely introduce more skills that will help the team to recover from their losses by starting defeating other teams from their next matches.

Chelsea have a really difficult job to do in the champions league but with how the weak the group is i think they will pass easily. Its only two point difference between them and Dinamo Zagreb and i think that they will easily pass because i dont think that Dinamo and Salzburg can continue good results inside the group

In fact, though, it seems that Group E doesn't have too many strong teams. If Chelsea were in the same form as they were last season, I would definitely say they are champions of Group E. But Chelsea is not in good form now. Moreover, Salzburg and Dinamo Zagreb teams cannot be called weak. They are a strong enough team in their own league. AC Milan will top Group E, I'm sure. If Chelsea is able to return to form, they may be able to grab second place at the table. Otherwise, Dinamo Zagreb has the best chance of qualifying for the next round from second place in the table. They are performing quite well. And they are quite tricky. Dinamo Zagreb will try their best to go to the next round.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on September 22, 2022, 11:43:01 AM

I guess, there is still time for Chelsea to prove to the whole world that they can still change the game to demonstrate well before the end of the season because some of the talented players their formal coach signed into the team will still prove to Chelsea fans that there is still hope for the team to lead the UEFA champions league competition, Chelsea coach will definitely introduce more skills that will help the team to recover from their losses by starting defeating other teams from their next matches.

Chelsea have a really difficult job to do in the champions league but with how the weak the group is i think they will pass easily. Its only two point difference between them and Dinamo Zagreb and i think that they will easily pass because i dont think that Dinamo and Salzburg can continue good results inside the group

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on September 22, 2022, 07:57:30 AM

Chelsea have only collected 1 point from the 2 matches they have played in Group E of the Champions League this season.
there are still 4 games to go and anything is still possible to happen and if you look at the quality of course Chelsea are favorites to qualify from the group along with AC Milan but with the problems that occur in their team make the chances even smaller.

After two bad match, Chelsea should no longer be favourites. I just think chelsea will not be able to qualify if in the next 2 matches against Milan they don't win. Chelsea have to win those two match to have any chance of qualifying for the next round, but I don't expect Milan to fail here.

Milan as one of the strong teams in Group E is of course expected to qualify for the next round. Obviously a win will be needed and that will put Chelsea under a lot of pressure. 2 matches Milan vs Chelsea home and away will be very interesting, it is a life and death match for Chelsea but Milan will still be safe if 1 of those 2 matches fail.

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Quote from: yudi09 on September 22, 2022, 09:59:08 AM

A very difficult journey for Chelsea this season in the Champions League.

more difficult because the next opponent is Milan. Of course, it will not be easy for Chelsea, who failed to win in the previous 2 matches. It's been a very bad season for Chelsea. even in the EPL, Chelsea also suffered a fate like Liverpool. they lost a lot of points.
this season was also a lot of surprises from a strong team that ended up having to lose to a team that is not a favorite in the Champions League. looks like a difficult fate also experienced by Sevilla and Juventus.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on September 22, 2022, 11:43:01 AM

I guess, there is still time for Chelsea to prove to the whole world that they can still change the game to demonstrate well before the end of the season because some of the talented players their formal coach signed into the team will still prove to Chelsea fans that there is still hope for the team to lead the UEFA champions league competition, Chelsea coach will definitely introduce more skills that will help the team to recover from their losses by starting defeating other teams from their next matches.

Basically, Chelsea still has a chance to qualify for the next phase, because Milan as a team at the top of the standings in Group E only has 4 points, which means. Even though Chelsea are in the bottom place but the gap is not too far, if Chelsea can consistently win or at least consistently get points and can stop Milan's run then Chelsea will still have a great chance of qualifying. But for some reason, I personally still feel that Chelsea will still find it difficult to consistently win. But if only targeting a draw is still very possible, the most important thing is that Chelsea don't lose in the remaining matches.

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I guess, there is still time for Chelsea to prove to the whole world that they can still change the game to demonstrate well before the end of the season because some of the talented players their formal coach signed into the team will still prove to Chelsea fans that there is still hope for the team to lead the UEFA champions league competition, Chelsea coach will definitely introduce more skills that will help the team to recover from their losses by starting defeating other teams from their next matches.

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Quote from: boltz on September 22, 2022, 07:11:43 AM

Chelsea ERA is kinda gone in my opinion. Sure ,they still have great players in the squad but they don't perform well and I don't see any great signs for them and I'm sure in winter and next summer , a lot of them will be leaving the team. Regarding coaches , you are 100% right , because right now , there are no great coaches available or at least top managers to be available and Tuchel might be join Juventus soon or Bayern...there are hard rumors from both of the clubs.

I agreed about Chelsea ERA because change of coach was completely wrong decision by management Tuchel was doing good job he deserves some more time as now having quality players it's going to be good in just few matches, but suddenly change of coach is having big impact on all squad mentality and many players are feeling uncomfortable which is not good signal for them and their performance in Premier League and Champions League.

If management looking for new high profile coach it's not easy in current situation with all already busy and have no enough desire for Chelsea and surely Tuchel is also going to be had job in next few weeks with Juventus and Bayern Munich both are having not good time and can hire him but change of management at Chelsea already kill this club which was doing amazing job under Russian owner.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on September 22, 2022, 07:42:46 AM

The opportunity is still there and also still very open for Chelsea. But Chelsea also needs to look at their own strengths at this time in order to win with the opponents they will face later, because Chelsea cannot think of AC Milan as an ordinary opponent, even AC Milan can still surprise in a match in the Champions League. this time despite having only managed to win once in two matches in Group E of the Champions League this season.

To keep the chance of qualifying for the next round, Chelsea must be able to win over AC Milan because Dinamo Zagreb in the next match will be against Salzburg who have the same desire to get a win to maintain a safe position in the group E standings.
1. AC Milan (4)
2. Dinamo Zagreb (3)
3. Salzburg (2)
4. Chelsea (1)
A very difficult journey for Chelsea this season in the Champions League.

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Quote from: boltz on September 22, 2022, 07:11:43 AM

Chelsea ERA is kinda gone in my opinion. Sure ,they still have great players in the squad but they don't perform well and I don't see any great signs for them and I'm sure in winter and next summer , a lot of them will be leaving the team. Regarding coaches , you are 100% right , because right now , there are no great coaches available or at least top managers to be available and Tuchel might be join Juventus soon or Bayern...there are hard rumors from both of the clubs.

For now it is really difficult to be sure of anything about Chelsea. Graham Potter will need some time to build a strong relationship with the team. He will also be under pressure of being sacked in case he doesn't have a good run in the rest of the season. It is too difficult for them to win the Premier League or Champions League title of course. But they need to give some good signals from now on.

We might watch a quite different team from now on. I mean Graham Potter might prefer attacking focused strategies mostly like he was doing at Brighton. He can't know if this will work for Chelsea also before trying it for some time of course. I would like to see this change as I'm bored of watching Chelsea focusing on their defense more than enough after getting ahead in a match. They should be able to score multiple goals in as many matches as possible to achieve something regularly.

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Now they are in transition due to a change in management and coach but indeed now there are still 4 games left to do in the Champions League so the opportunity is still quite open I think especially if you look at the current condition of their opponents, it is clear that they still have hope as long as Potter can take Chelsea in the right direction better.

The opportunity is still there and also still very open for Chelsea. But Chelsea also needs to look at their own strengths at this time in order to win with the opponents they will face later, because Chelsea cannot think of AC Milan as an ordinary opponent, even AC Milan can still surprise in a match in the Champions League. this time despite having only managed to win once in two matches in Group E of the Champions League this season.

Chelsea have only collected 1 point from the 2 matches they have played in Group E of the Champions League this season.
there are still 4 games to go and anything is still possible to happen and if you look at the quality of course Chelsea are favorites to qualify from the group along with AC Milan but with the problems that occur in their team make the chances even smaller.
FC Red Bull Salzburg now have to be wary of in Group E of the Champions League because they are now playing very well by being able to hold off AC Milan and Chelsea in the first two games.
Seeing the conditions that happened, Chelsea must be quick to get back on their feet, in terms of the quality of their players and experienced coaches, they just need time to find the Chemestry and the coach's tactics to match the team's style of play.
The change of coach in the middle of the season does take a bit of time to adapt but it's not impossible for Chelsea to win UCL matches and qualify from the group, they still have hope.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on September 22, 2022, 04:51:21 AM

Now they are in transition due to a change in management and coach but indeed now there are still 4 games left to do in the Champions League so the opportunity is still quite open I think especially if you look at the current condition of their opponents, it is clear that they still have hope as long as Potter can take Chelsea in the right direction better.

The opportunity is still there and also still very open for Chelsea. But Chelsea also needs to look at their own strengths at this time in order to win with the opponents they will face later, because Chelsea cannot think of AC Milan as an ordinary opponent, even AC Milan can still surprise in a match in the Champions League. this time despite having only managed to win once in two matches in Group E of the Champions League this season.

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The only problem is when? We may wait for another several matches to happen with chelsea but it that will not have good result and then there wll be another big question to come like whether chelsea's management decision to sacked tuchel was true or not.
The first match already happened and so far chelsea can't even win against a small team from another league which is a shame for chelsea with so many players with big name and skill.

Once the Chelsea management already changed the coach in the middle of the tournament, then it was a coup and Techel won the Champions League with Chelsea. If they are now hoping for the same result, then I think that this will not happen. Finding a coach of equal level with Tuchel is a very difficult task, especially since Potter has no experience in the Champions League, which can also be a negative moment for the team.

Chelsea ERA is kinda gone in my opinion. Sure ,they still have great players in the squad but they don't perform well and I don't see any great signs for them and I'm sure in winter and next summer , a lot of them will be leaving the team. Regarding coaches , you are 100% right , because right now , there are no great coaches available or at least top managers to be available and Tuchel might be join Juventus soon or Bayern...there are hard rumors from both of the clubs.

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Quote from: X-ray on September 22, 2022, 05:34:58 AM

The only problem is when? We may wait for another several matches to happen with chelsea but it that will not have good result and then there wll be another big question to come like whether chelsea's management decision to sacked tuchel was true or not.
The first match already happened and so far chelsea can't even win against a small team from another league which is a shame for chelsea with so many players with big name and skill.

Once the Chelsea management already changed the coach in the middle of the tournament, then it was a coup and Techel won the Champions League with Chelsea. If they are now hoping for the same result, then I think that this will not happen. Finding a coach of equal level with Tuchel is a very difficult task, especially since Potter has no experience in the Champions League, which can also be a negative moment for the team.

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Quote from: G_Besar on September 21, 2022, 02:27:16 PM

Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group phase are arguably very heavy. Chelsea's hope to pursue full points in the next two matches is not an easy matter, the opponent they face is AC Milan which will certainly make it difficult for the Blues. With four games remaining, Chelsea's road to qualifying for the group is steep, only a win can help them. Chelsea fans are certainly very worried about the performance of their favorite team this season.

That's for sure, chelsea will have a tough match either in the domestic league or in the champions league.
Chelsea's chance to qualify for the next phase is not easy and very difficult, considering that in the last match Chelsea were only able to play with a draw. they only have one point, as a result they have to be willing to be in the bottom position in group E. next, Chelsea will play the match against Milan.
This match is very tough for Chelsea, Potter must prepare his squad to win this match. if chelsea can get three points, then in the next match chelsea has the opportunity to again qualify for the next round phase. however, the question is can Potter bring the Blues out of the group stage.

Now they are in transition due to a change in management and coach but indeed now there are still 4 games left to do in the Champions League so the opportunity is still quite open I think especially if you look at the current condition of their opponents, it is clear that they still have hope as long as Potter can take Chelsea in the right direction better.

The only problem is when? We may wait for another several matches to happen with chelsea but it that will not have good result and then there wll be another big question to come like whether chelsea's management decision to sacked tuchel was true or not.
The first match already happened and so far chelsea can't even win against a small team from another league which is a shame for chelsea with so many players with big name and skill.

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Quote from: G_Besar on September 21, 2022, 02:27:16 PM

Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group phase are arguably very heavy. Chelsea's hope to pursue full points in the next two matches is not an easy matter, the opponent they face is AC Milan which will certainly make it difficult for the Blues. With four games remaining, Chelsea's road to qualifying for the group is steep, only a win can help them. Chelsea fans are certainly very worried about the performance of their favorite team this season.

That's for sure, chelsea will have a tough match either in the domestic league or in the champions league.
Chelsea's chance to qualify for the next phase is not easy and very difficult, considering that in the last match Chelsea were only able to play with a draw. they only have one point, as a result they have to be willing to be in the bottom position in group E. next, Chelsea will play the match against Milan.
This match is very tough for Chelsea, Potter must prepare his squad to win this match. if chelsea can get three points, then in the next match chelsea has the opportunity to again qualify for the next round phase. however, the question is can Potter bring the Blues out of the group stage.

Now they are in transition due to a change in management and coach but indeed now there are still 4 games left to do in the Champions League so the opportunity is still quite open I think especially if you look at the current condition of their opponents, it is clear that they still have hope as long as Potter can take Chelsea in the right direction better.

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Quote from: G_Besar on September 21, 2022, 02:27:16 PM

Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group phase are arguably very heavy. Chelsea's hope to pursue full points in the next two matches is not an easy matter, the opponent they face is AC Milan which will certainly make it difficult for the Blues. With four games remaining, Chelsea's road to qualifying for the group is steep, only a win can help them. Chelsea fans are certainly very worried about the performance of their favorite team this season.

That's for sure, chelsea will have a tough match either in the domestic league or in the champions league.
Chelsea's chance to qualify for the next phase is not easy and very difficult, considering that in the last match Chelsea were only able to play with a draw. they only have one point, as a result they have to be willing to be in the bottom position in group E. next, Chelsea will play the match against Milan.
This match is very tough for Chelsea, Potter must prepare his squad to win this match. if chelsea can get three points, then in the next match chelsea has the opportunity to again qualify for the next round phase. however, the question is can Potter bring the Blues out of the group stage.

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Quote from: G_Besar on September 21, 2022, 02:27:16 PM

Chelsea's chances of qualifying from the group phase are arguably very heavy. Chelsea's hope to pursue full points in the next two matches is not an easy matter, the opponent they face is AC Milan which will certainly make it difficult for the Blues. With four games remaining, Chelsea's road to qualifying for the group is steep, only a win can help them. Chelsea fans are certainly very worried about the performance of their favorite team this season.

The four matches that Chelsea will face are with a team that is quite strong in Group E of the Champions League at the moment (namely the leaders of the first and second standings) and I think both must be watched out for by Chelsea because considering AC Milan is still quite good this season, especially in the Champions League group.
Likewise with Dinamo Zagreb who have won once in the Champions League group, but Chelsea certainly shouldn't take it lightly because Chelsea are in need of a win to qualify for the next phase.

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