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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 15, 2022, 12:37:39 PM

Juventus still need some improvement in the squad indeed. Pogba is out until January now and it is not even guaranteed whether he will come back strong and solve the problem in the midfield. They need to add some new players to the team to strengthen the lineup. Allegri's usual game plan might not be working anymore at the same time. Because they are terrible in the Serie A and this tournament both. The board must be nearly out of patience about Allegri these days and they have the right to feel like this too.

Who knows maybe Allegri might be even sacked if Juventus get a negative result in their game up next against Monza.

Not sure about adding new players, as I believe this is a clear problem Allegri is no longer fit to coach Juventus and should be replaced. Because basically Juventus' opponents so far when they get a busy schedule to play in Serie A and the Champions League, Juventus have opponents who can at least be beaten. Except for PSG because their quality is clearly different, but playing at home against Benfica and still getting a defeat then it is a disaster for Juventus who may not qualify for the next round.

Even we can check quality of many big teams are on decline but Juventus case is surely strange as players are doing right now most chances soon we will have Allgeri is going off from his job because now players are not happy with him and his tactics which are not working properly, and they are going down badly.

Improvement is squad is very good, but coach is losing players confidence which is also having big concern for them as well now they are going to face Monza in Serie A which is going to decide how things could be in next few days can they go through with current set up or Juventus are going to have another manager for rest of this season because right now most chances they are going out of Champions League in after group stage.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 15, 2022, 12:37:39 PM

Juventus still need some improvement in the squad indeed. Pogba is out until January now and it is not even guaranteed whether he will come back strong and solve the problem in the midfield. They need to add some new players to the team to strengthen the lineup. Allegri's usual game plan might not be working anymore at the same time. Because they are terrible in the Serie A and this tournament both. The board must be nearly out of patience about Allegri these days and they have the right to feel like this too.

Who knows maybe Allegri might be even sacked if Juventus get a negative result in their game up next against Monza.

I haven't heard the rumors of his sacking, although so far Allegri hasn't been able to make a very good Juventus performance. It never occurred to me that he would fail and stop coaching Juventus at the start of this season, but the competition has become tougher for Juventus over the last few seasons. Wishing him all the best is what I want to say, it will put the fans' mood at ease.

If Juventus had known Pogba would be out until January due to his injury, then I'm sure they wouldn't bother bringing him home from Manchester United. I don't know why Juventus didn't bring in some other players before the transfer window closed before, of course it would give them options in difficult times.

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Quote from: execijutiere on September 15, 2022, 02:18:39 PM

The surprising match of the day for me was chelsea vs salzburg. Chelsea played almost one goal for 90 minutes. Salzburg couldn't even attack properly. Despite this, they drew at home and I think they got a bad result for themselves.

Chelsea players dominated the entire match. Still they did not win. I expected Chelsea to win this match. Because they played very well. The main task of Salzburg's players was only to resist Chelsea's attack. And this they have managed to do quite well. And managed to earn 1 point by drawing the match. Getting a point against Chelsea in their home match is a big achievement for Salzburg.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 15, 2022, 06:10:01 AM

I was curious about why Real Madrid's odd was high again as it was around 1.65. However I still trusted them with my bet and won nicely. Considering the strength of their opponents so far these were really nice opportunities for placing a bet on them. It will be the same for their Shakhtar match also. I'd love to have another odd like this to take advantage of it. Grin

I wanted to believe in Juventus also but they got a really bad result at the end. After finding an early goal I was more confident about their win. But somehow they started to play worse than Benfica and it was like a gift to their opponent. It's like there is no tournament they are doing good now. Allegri will need to create a solution for this weakness otherwise his end might be the same as Tuchel. We have watched a solid Juventus in the Champions League until this season. This team has nothing to do with their old version.

Now I understand why the bookies give such generous odds - 1.79 for Juventus in the game against Monza Grin

On the one hand, this bet looks like easy money (even the crisis Juventus should win), on the other hand, there are already suspicions that the players are trying to get rid of the coach. And since he has not yet been fired, betting on Juventus is a big risk.

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Quote from: execijutiere on September 15, 2022, 02:18:39 PM

Maccabi haifa scored the first goal. But psg recovered to get 3 points with 3 goals away from home. The goals came from the front 3. Messi, neymar and mbappe are giving a good image right now. We can say that they have no problem in finding goals.

Tjaronn Chery's goal was a bit of a surprise but it didn't overwhelm PSG because I was actually pretty sure their victory would be easy.
Their 3 strikers each scored a goal and indeed seeing Messi's performance in this match I actually think it's very good.
His 1 Goal and 1 Assist made him quite successful in this match.

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That goal deserved a celebration, from the assist to the finish,

I didn't talk much about the assist, It deserved as much commendation as the goal itself, it was a world class delivery from Cancelo, the kind of assist that we usually see from Luka Modrić. With the likes of Haaland in front of goal to finish up passes, midfielders and other players with the special ability of floating ball into that goal area will have more confidence doing so knowing that there is a capable finisher upfront.

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Maccabi haifa scored the first goal. But psg recovered to get 3 points with 3 goals away from home. The goals came from the front 3. Messi, neymar and mbappe are giving a good image right now. We can say that they have no problem in finding goals.

The surprising match of the day for me was chelsea vs salzburg. Chelsea played almost one goal for 90 minutes. Salzburg couldn't even attack properly. Despite this, they drew at home and I think they got a bad result for themselves.

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Quote from: posi on September 15, 2022, 01:39:30 PM

Guardiola should definitely come up with a Plan B. Manchester City's performance should not suffer if Haaland is injured or not in the squad. But with Manchester City now relying on Haaland to score, I don't think Guardiola can apply a different plan if Haaland is injured. Guardiola must reduce his reliance on Haaland if he wants to win the Champions League title. And Haaland should be rested for a few matches to see if Manchester City's players are able to perform well without Haaland in the squad.

Of course Pep Guardiola has realized that. Indeed, Haaland is their main focus because Manchester City's target this year is to win the Champions League. But I believe in the ability of Pep Guardiola's squad, they have many alternatives and if one day if Haaland is absent then Pep can also maximize his midfielders who are known to be quite creative and it is also possible that Pep can apply formations by forming a "False Nine" to replace the striker role. their main.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 15, 2022, 11:35:56 AM

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But I would say that Guardiola has become too much dependent on Haaland. It is very risky if the team becomes dependent on only one player. If Haaland is absent due to injury before an important match, it will have a negative effect on Manchester City's performance.

Yes, of course, when the club is dependent on one player, the risk will go along with it. We haven't seen Manchester City without Haaland at the moment and Pep Guardiola should have anticipated that. Losing one player will certainly hinder, moreover that player becomes an important figure in their attack line. Because when there are no other players in that position, his teammates will definitely do what they usually do when Haaland plays. Guardiola has to prepare for this kind of thing.

Guardiola should definitely come up with a Plan B. Manchester City's performance should not suffer if Haaland is injured or not in the squad. But with Manchester City now relying on Haaland to score, I don't think Guardiola can apply a different plan if Haaland is injured. Guardiola must reduce his reliance on Haaland if he wants to win the Champions League title. And Haaland should be rested for a few matches to see if Manchester City's players are able to perform well without Haaland in the squad.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 15, 2022, 12:37:39 PM

Juventus still need some improvement in the squad indeed. Pogba is out until January now and it is not even guaranteed whether he will come back strong and solve the problem in the midfield. They need to add some new players to the team to strengthen the lineup. Allegri's usual game plan might not be working anymore at the same time. Because they are terrible in the Serie A and this tournament both. The board must be nearly out of patience about Allegri these days and they have the right to feel like this too.

Who knows maybe Allegri might be even sacked if Juventus get a negative result in their game up next against Monza.

Juventus made a false hope in the first 4 minutes this team could score 1 goal but lost, much of fans to the disappointment, even also many says for Allergi to be sacked echoed everywhere. The first matc lose against PSG I think is reasonable because PSG are very strong, but Benfica are not as strong as PSG. Monza that's a club in the relegation zone if they lose or draw, could be their coach will sent to home, because The board will not accept this.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 15, 2022, 12:37:39 PM

Juventus still need some improvement in the squad indeed. Pogba is out until January now and it is not even guaranteed whether he will come back strong and solve the problem in the midfield. They need to add some new players to the team to strengthen the lineup. Allegri's usual game plan might not be working anymore at the same time. Because they are terrible in the Serie A and this tournament both. The board must be nearly out of patience about Allegri these days and they have the right to feel like this too.

Who knows maybe Allegri might be even sacked if Juventus get a negative result in their game up next against Monza.

Urgently with Juventus need improvement if want pass to knock out group because twice loss then two team between Benfica and PSG success collected 6 points make Juventus position difficulty. Except with many line position player have weakness I think Juventus should win for next match against with Maccabi Haifa and hope match between PSG vs Benfica not get draw result.
Juventus' chances of qualifying for the knockout round are very tin, apart from having to win the match against Maccabi Haifa, on the one hand, Juventus must expect a lot from one team to lose points between PSG or Benfica.

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I wonder if Chelsea did the right thing by changing their manager. Graham Potter had his first match in the Champions League with the team and they got another point loss. Actually Chelsea's performance was really good. They had things under control most of the time and Salzburg had only 4 goal attempts. But Salzburg still left the match by one point at the end.

This is only the start of course and Graham Potter will have a good amount of time to find the right game plan for the team before their next official match. If his system works with Chelsea very well then it is still not difficult for them to make up for the losses so far. Otherwise this season will turn into a nightmare for Chelsea. The thing Chelsea need the most now is being capable of scoring goals easier than before. Because despite being very effective in attacking they were still stuck at 1 goal against Salzburg for example.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 15, 2022, 12:37:39 PM

Juventus still need some improvement in the squad indeed. Pogba is out until January now and it is not even guaranteed whether he will come back strong and solve the problem in the midfield. They need to add some new players to the team to strengthen the lineup. Allegri's usual game plan might not be working anymore at the same time. Because they are terrible in the Serie A and this tournament both. The board must be nearly out of patience about Allegri these days and they have the right to feel like this too.

Who knows maybe Allegri might be even sacked if Juventus get a negative result in their game up next against Monza.

Not sure about adding new players, as I believe this is a clear problem Allegri is no longer fit to coach Juventus and should be replaced. Because basically Juventus' opponents so far when they get a busy schedule to play in Serie A and the Champions League, Juventus have opponents who can at least be beaten. Except for PSG because their quality is clearly different, but playing at home against Benfica and still getting a defeat then it is a disaster for Juventus who may not qualify for the next round.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 15, 2022, 11:35:56 AM

Yes, of course, when the club is dependent on one player, the risk will go along with it. We haven't seen Manchester City without Haaland at the moment and Pep Guardiola should have anticipated that. Losing one player will certainly hinder, moreover that player becomes an important figure in their attack line. Because when there are no other players in that position, his teammates will definitely do what they usually do when Haaland plays. Guardiola has to prepare for this kind of thing.

I think Pep Guardiola has warned about that especially when Haaland was replaced by Alvarez several times in the last few games. Haaland is an important figure at the moment in Manchester City's attack, but when Pep Guardiola knows he needs rest then he will be substituted too.

Actually I don't think giving Haaland such a high of playtime by playing him in many match would be such a big problem. Haaland has a good physique to recover his physical condition faster, moreover it will also allow him to adapt more quickly to his new team's style of play. I think Pep Guardiola knows when Haaland has to start on the bench and when he has to start in main line up, he knows that I think.

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I was curious about why Real Madrid's odd was high again as it was around 1.65. However I still trusted them with my bet and won nicely. Considering the strength of their opponents so far these were really nice opportunities for placing a bet on them. It will be the same for their Shakhtar match also. I'd love to have another odd like this to take advantage of it. Grin

I am not sure why Madrid odds was quite high compare to other teams odds such as Manchester City or PSG which is usually very low but my thoughts is because this season Madrid is not the first favourite to win champion league so that's why they have high odds for each matches but i think this is good opportunity to bets for them because they can wins for almost every matches and last week too while against Celtic bookmakers provide high odds for them approximately @1.73 next match against Shakhtar probably the odds will not so different

It's caused madrid has higher value compared with another team. The fact that madrid can in champion league in a row. The same thing can happen this year. The performance from madrid is very stable at this moment unlike another club. That makes madrid has more odds compared with another club. there are so many considerations happened with it. Madrid will not get such a high odd if there was no something good happening with it.
Madrid has highest chance to become a winner for this season.

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Juventus still need some improvement in the squad indeed. Pogba is out until January now and it is not even guaranteed whether he will come back strong and solve the problem in the midfield. They need to add some new players to the team to strengthen the lineup. Allegri's usual game plan might not be working anymore at the same time. Because they are terrible in the Serie A and this tournament both. The board must be nearly out of patience about Allegri these days and they have the right to feel like this too.

Who knows maybe Allegri might be even sacked if Juventus get a negative result in their game up next against Monza.

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Will Allegri be sacked? Or will they last until winter or for another season? And the result could be worse for Juventus. Benfica are not tired of creating chances, they are capable of scoring goals, once again the Portuguese team remains firmly established as the dark horse in the competition once again. In fact, Benfica could actually embarrass Juventus by scoring at least 3 or 4 more goals.

When the rival team began to clean up. starting from AC Milan, Inter Milan, Naples and AS Roma. Juventus is very disappointing. For some reason, I am really hurt by the current Juventus coach, the salary of the top 4 coaches in the world but often loses. seems to be true, never mind what to expect from this Allegri.

Actually, Juventus has improved in the last transfer market by bringing in several new players, but Juventus performance is still below the standard of big teams. Allegri has not been able to lift Juventus appearance into a team that is feared as it was when they dominated Serie A. The defeat to Benfica was very painful for all Juventus supporters because they were humiliated at home. Allegri must find a solution to make Juventus appearance even better, if he fails to bring Juventus to a better direction, it is certain that he will lose his job this season.

I would say Juventus do not have a squad worthy of winning the title. Their squad is still weak. However, Juventus have added several players to the squad this season. Di Maria is not able to perform well. On the other hand, Pogba is still out of the squad due to injury. Juventus are still unbeaten in any match but they have drawn in 4 out of 6 matches. Juventus should now aim to qualify for the Champions League. Juventus will not win the Serie A title.

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Quote from: posi on September 15, 2022, 10:21:05 AM

But I would say that Guardiola has become too much dependent on Haaland. It is very risky if the team becomes dependent on only one player. If Haaland is absent due to injury before an important match, it will have a negative effect on Manchester City's performance.

Yes, of course, when the club is dependent on one player, the risk will go along with it. We haven't seen Manchester City without Haaland at the moment and Pep Guardiola should have anticipated that. Losing one player will certainly hinder, moreover that player becomes an important figure in their attack line. Because when there are no other players in that position, his teammates will definitely do what they usually do when Haaland plays. Guardiola has to prepare for this kind of thing.

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Will Allegri be sacked? Or will they last until winter or for another season? And the result could be worse for Juventus. Benfica are not tired of creating chances, they are capable of scoring goals, once again the Portuguese team remains firmly established as the dark horse in the competition once again. In fact, Benfica could actually embarrass Juventus by scoring at least 3 or 4 more goals.

When the rival team began to clean up. starting from AC Milan, Inter Milan, Naples and AS Roma. Juventus is very disappointing. For some reason, I am really hurt by the current Juventus coach, the salary of the top 4 coaches in the world but often loses. seems to be true, never mind what to expect from this Allegri.

Actually, Juventus has improved in the last transfer market by bringing in several new players, but Juventus performance is still below the standard of big teams. Allegri has not been able to lift Juventus appearance into a team that is feared as it was when they dominated Serie A. The defeat to Benfica was very painful for all Juventus supporters because they were humiliated at home. Allegri must find a solution to make Juventus appearance even better, if he fails to bring Juventus to a better direction, it is certain that he will lose his job this season.

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He’s a very promising player; that is very obvious with his performance from the very start of his career at Manchester city. Manchester City works perfectly as in a team and in sync, with accurate passes creating opportunities for goals. Dortmund played really well but Manchester city was better in the end with a late goal to help win the game. If you come to think of it, if he was still in Dortmund, Haaland would have probably scored a late goal against Manchester city to help Dortmund win. That’s the type of player he is. Trying to score till the final whistle.

It was only because Haaland had the opportunity to score through the use of a good pass aimed at him. Because he also won't be able to score more goals if he doesn't have good chances or passes for him in the game. Even if I look at the best player in the match, Joao Cancelo was the one who gave Haaland a very good pass in the 84th minute for the second goal for Manchester City.

Yes, it is only because of good team work and hard work that would make a team score goals and win tournaments. The team mates are in sync with each other and they play with understanding of each other abilities. Haaland wouldn’t obviously score goals as much as he had done without the help and accurate passes of the midfield. But we can’t also deny the fact that he’s a good striker and finisher and makes good use of the opportunities presented to him.
I only fear that Pep would overtime grow over dependent on his abilities for what would happen when he incapacitated or injured. I still believe Manchester city would play just fine without Haaland

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