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Bayern Munich couldn't win in three of their last Bundesliga matches, but they were able to beat Inter, i think they are taking Champions League more seriously, and i don't think i can bet on Barcelona to win, it feels wrong, but im pretty sure we will see a lot of goals, at least 3 in this match.

Bayern munich was always winning bundesliga. I feel that if the team was feeling bored to win any season of bundesliga. The history said almost ten years bayern are always winning this competition. It seems true that if bayern munchen was more focusing to play in the champion league rather than winning on its local competition. Remember that the upcoming match will be against barcelona which is a very crucial match for bayern munich to get full points from barcelona. Im not feeling doubt if bayern was not playing so serious on its local competition.

Bayern Munich-Barcelona match will be a very critical match tomorrow. Of course, the Bundesliga is difficult, but the Champions League is a very different and difficult tournament. There is a Barcelona that is doing well in La Liga. Bayern Munich is the team that is closer to the victory as they are the home team in the first match. Maybe Barcelona can beat Bayern because they are so good this year. So it's a game where both teams can win.

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Liverpool vs Ajax game is a must-win for Liverpool as this will serve as a motivation for the club who have been performing badly both in the premier league and champion league though Ajax is a weaker club compared to Liverpool. But the fact that football is unpredictable so anything can happen.

Football is unpredictable, but you may predict the result of a game by looking at both teams' recent records and the team that is presently playing the best. Ajax is by more underrated compared to Liverpool, yet Liverpool's current form makes them unpredictable, and their chances of defeating Ajax are quite slim. Even Ajax's recent performances have been quite average, and they will need to exert more effort to defeat Liverpool. So this game is just unpredictable for everyone.

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Bayern Munich couldn't win in three of their last Bundesliga matches, but they were able to beat Inter, i think they are taking Champions League more seriously, and i don't think i can bet on Barcelona to win, it feels wrong, but im pretty sure we will see a lot of goals, at least 3 in this match.

It is the intensity of Champions League,you only fight against strong opponents here and thus the motivation is much higher,well not always against strong ones but 90% of the time you do.I think Bayern can also win at home against Barcelona as Barcelona is not at the levels it once was and even at such levels Bayern have beaten them with tennis results like 6-1 if I remember correctly.The odd for me is very good at near 1.8 for Bayern to win this game,of course Barcelona is a strong opponent and Lewandowski is with them but I think Bayern can win this game.

This is professional football and Barcelona are ready for a powerful opponent like Bayern. Barcelona are playing much better now than a year ago and I think they will fight for three points in the group. Especially since they have one win each so far, which already equalizes them as rivals. Although the stats at Bayern are not on Barcelona's side, I think they should win the game at Barcelona!

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Liverpool vs Ajax game is a must-win for Liverpool as this will serve as a motivation for the club who have been performing badly both in the premier league and champion league though Ajax is a weaker club compared to Liverpool. But the fact that football is unpredictable so anything can happen.

Liverpool are in bad form of course the match against Ajax they must win if they want to qualify from the group.
In terms of quality Liverpool are superior but their recent performance has certainly affected their mentality, I hope they can bounce back from this slump and I'm sure if they can get back to their previous form then they will be able to win this game.
And it's true that in football anything can happen, but I'm sure a team as big as Liverpool will come back at the right time.

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I think this will be a very good and uncertain match.
Both teams were very good in the first round of the group, but Bayern had a much stronger opponent, and at the same time showed great quality and dominance.
I think that Bayern found a very good replacement for Lewandowski in Mane, and they dominate again in the Champions League and in the German Championship and I give them a slight advantage in this match.
Barcelona also brought in new players and raised their level of play, and I believe that there is no chance that they will be eliminated in the group stage of the Champions League this season, as they were last season, although they are in a very difficult group of the Champions League.

Bayern is a lot more established club with most of their players, even though they lost Lewandowski, they got Mane instead and he is a great player as well, on top of that they also have players that could in return play very well and been playing together for a very long time as well.

Barcelona on the other hand got new players on all positions and there are only a few players coming back from last year, they do not have the chemistry that Bayern has, and neither way more talented than them neither. I am guessing Bayern will probably just run hard and tire out Barcelona and beat them by 70th or 75th minute, and score easier after that.

I think we both agree that Bayern is currently ahead of Barcelona, and in terms of game organization, experience, team cohesion etc.
Everyone wondered how Bayern would play without Lewandowski, but in fact, you can hardly see any difference in their game, they are still a great team, maybe even a better team compared to last season.
I watched their game against Inter and it was a rarely seen dominance from an away team against Inter in Milan.
Barcelona is slowly raising the level of their game with Xavi, but it will take them some time to reach the level of Bayern.

Most of Bayern's players have long been associated with the team and have a good understanding. Barcelona have brought in a lot of new players this season, and while there are plenty of juniors, it will take some time for them to play their proper game. But do I think Bayern Munich can beat Barcelona?

Of course it wouldn't be a surprise if Barcelona beat Bayern, we're just predicting the outcome of the match based on the past results and games of both teams, but the real match is something else entirely Grin

In fact, Bayern have been having problems in the German league lately, they have lost some points in the last minutes of the games and it seems that the Bayern players have problems with their concentration in defense and this may be a chance for Barcelona.
A very exciting and uncertain match awaits us, and the team that makes fewer mistakes and has more concentration in the match will win.

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So, Liverpool's game against Ajax will go according to plan, whereas the Rangers - Napoli game will be played on Wednesday instead of tomorrow.

After our humiliating game in Italy - this is a must win game for us. If we fail to beat Ajax, we will put ourselves in a really dangerous position going forward - and it is really an easy group that we should be progressing from easily.

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Quote from: Fakhrulenclix on September 12, 2022, 01:15:16 AM

The Champions League has different tensions and Bayern's mentality is very strong on the European stage, even though Bayern are underperforming in the Bundesliga but that can't be a reference that they will also experience the same thing in the Champions League.
in terms of quality Bayern and Barcelona are not much different, but Barcelona is currently at its best I think it will be a very tough match and I think both teams still have the same chance to win the game.
It's a bit risky to choose to bet on one team, I think betting on goals over is a good choice, with Barcelona's prolificity and Bayern's quality it is very possible that there will be a lot of goals going on in this match.

The results of Bayern in the Bundesliga are not indicative, they always win there, and now it is clear that the Champions League is their priority tournament. Barcelona are in good shape and Lewandowski is scoring very consistently, it will be interesting to see how the Bayern players hold him back. It seems to me that this match, on the contrary, can be very careful and there will be few goals.

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Th champions League is back this week and Tottenham Hotspur will travel to Portugal to play sporting Lisbon And I believe Antonio Conte will give rest to players but one I know most definitely start in tomorrow's game is Dejan kulusevski because he has missed starting to consecutive games, against Fulham in the league and Marseille at the champions League and he should have started those games but Conte opted to give Richarlison debut starts and the Brazilian responded the coach trust with good performance but now I think the Sweden international deserves to start tomorrow game and son should be drop because right now he is not playing on his highest level.

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Bayern Munich couldn't win in three of their last Bundesliga matches, but they were able to beat Inter, i think they are taking Champions League more seriously, and i don't think i can bet on Barcelona to win, it feels wrong, but im pretty sure we will see a lot of goals, at least 3 in this match.

It is the intensity of Champions League,you only fight against strong opponents here and thus the motivation is much higher,well not always against strong ones but 90% of the time you do.I think Bayern can also win at home against Barcelona as Barcelona is not at the levels it once was and even at such levels Bayern have beaten them with tennis results like 6-1 if I remember correctly.The odd for me is very good at near 1.8 for Bayern to win this game,of course Barcelona is a strong opponent and Lewandowski is with them but I think Bayern can win this game.

Bayern Munich has a very good record when it comes to meeting Barcelona in the same competition, the Champions League. They even beat Barcelona with a landslide score as well. That could be their motivation in this match.
But now things have changed, even one of the players who used to be part of Bayern Munich's victory is now in Barcelona. Honestly I see Bayern Munich can be said to be the charmer of Barcelona.

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Bayern Munich couldn't win in three of their last Bundesliga matches, but they were able to beat Inter, i think they are taking Champions League more seriously, and i don't think i can bet on Barcelona to win, it feels wrong, but im pretty sure we will see a lot of goals, at least 3 in this match.

It is the intensity of Champions League,you only fight against strong opponents here and thus the motivation is much higher,well not always against strong ones but 90% of the time you do.I think Bayern can also win at home against Barcelona as Barcelona is not at the levels it once was and even at such levels Bayern have beaten them with tennis results like 6-1 if I remember correctly.The odd for me is very good at near 1.8 for Bayern to win this game,of course Barcelona is a strong opponent and Lewandowski is with them but I think Bayern can win this game.

The Champions League has different tensions and Bayern's mentality is very strong on the European stage, even though Bayern are underperforming in the Bundesliga but that can't be a reference that they will also experience the same thing in the Champions League.
in terms of quality Bayern and Barcelona are not much different, but Barcelona is currently at its best I think it will be a very tough match and I think both teams still have the same chance to win the game.
It's a bit risky to choose to bet on one team, I think betting on goals over is a good choice, with Barcelona's prolificity and Bayern's quality it is very possible that there will be a lot of goals going on in this match.

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Bayern Munich couldn't win in three of their last Bundesliga matches, but they were able to beat Inter, i think they are taking Champions League more seriously, and i don't think i can bet on Barcelona to win, it feels wrong, but im pretty sure we will see a lot of goals, at least 3 in this match.

It is the intensity of Champions League,you only fight against strong opponents here and thus the motivation is much higher,well not always against strong ones but 90% of the time you do.I think Bayern can also win at home against Barcelona as Barcelona is not at the levels it once was and even at such levels Bayern have beaten them with tennis results like 6-1 if I remember correctly.The odd for me is very good at near 1.8 for Bayern to win this game,of course Barcelona is a strong opponent and Lewandowski is with them but I think Bayern can win this game.

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Quote from: Rabi3 on September 11, 2022, 06:46:57 PM

Bayern Munich couldn't win in three of their last Bundesliga matches, but they were able to beat Inter, i think they are taking Champions League more seriously, and i don't think i can bet on Barcelona to win, it feels wrong, but im pretty sure we will see a lot of goals, at least 3 in this match.

Bayern munich was always winning bundesliga. I feel that if the team was feeling bored to win any season of bundesliga. The history said almost ten years bayern are always winning this competition. It seems true that if bayern munchen was more focusing to play in the champion league rather than winning on its local competition. Remember that the upcoming match will be against barcelona which is a very crucial match for bayern munich to get full points from barcelona. Im not feeling doubt if bayern was not playing so serious on its local competition.

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Yes, Chelsea are very happy to have brought Graham Potter to Chelsea, and it is a shame that Tuchel did not have much support from the Chelsea players and considers Graham Potter to be a better coach than him and also a proven innovator in the Premier League to match Chelsea.

Tuchel did not get support from both players and the boss. He is lonely in Chelsea and because it is a new boss, new owner, all of his past contributions don't mean much. Even if Abramovich is still in Chelsea, chance for Tuchel would be a little bigger but it is not guarantee that Tuchel can be safe.

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and hopefully true and Graham Potter can bring Chelsea back to life and the postponement of the game due to Queen Elizabeth's funeral is Graham Potter's chance to give Chelsea some serious training and can produce positive results in every game under his care.

A few weeks are very valuable for Chelsea to recover and improve their performance. It is not about training because Chelsea players are good enough, what prevented them to play at their best is their psychology is not fresh. Now Tuchel was out already so with a fresh mind, they can play better.

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I am not sure "dismantle" would be the case. I mean Bayern is a bit more physically gifted team and they play like a machine, whereas Barcelona is a team of mind and they play with a good tactic and technique at the same time. So, it is going to be battle of two different mindsets and I am not sure if any team will dismantle the other.

So all in all, we should be focusing a bit towards how we could end up with a situation where it is close to a tied game, maybe one will win but the difference will not be big neither in score nor while watching the game neither.

But for now Nagelsmann is also busy with the condition of their players who seem to be losing productivity, especially when they see their draw for 3 weeks in a row.
It becomes a bit difficult if Barcelona play like they always show in La Liga this season. Apart from H2H which put Bayern ahead, it will still be a little difficult to predict who will win now.

In a few days Bayern will face Barcelona, it's a game that attracts a lot of attention. Because both are strong teams in Europe,
Bayern and Barcelona actually have almost the same strength, both teams have quality squads. The problem is that Bayern's performance
in the Bundesliga is not so good, they have drawn 3 times in a row. As you said Nagelsmann is now definitely busy thinking about the strategy
he will play against Barcelona. Although Bayern's performance in the Champions League was quite good, in the first match Bayern managed
to beat Inter even though they were playing away. But Nagelsmann realized Barcelona had a better performance, because Barcelona played
very consistently.

After all, Barcelona have Lewandowski who might be the decisive player in the Bayern vs Barcelona match, This of course will make it difficult
for Bayern. But I'm sure Bayern will give their best against Barcelona. I chose not to bet on the Bayern vs Barcelona match, because I think
the same as you, the outcome of the match is difficult to predict. But my prediction is that the match will probably end in a draw, because
I think it's the best result for both teams.

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This will be quite interesting to see because I want to see if the Potters will overhaul their squad in the core line-up or stay the same as the Tuchel Era.

When a coach is sacked in middle of season, it mostly because of bad performance and internal conflicts. Mostly it is conflict between coach and players so when a coach is sacked, players will play better under a new coach.

I see underneath conflict between Tuchel and Chelsea players because after his sack, he did not get much support from Chelsea players even on social media. If this is really main issue, they will play better under Potter and we can expect better results in first few matches with Potter. In addition, Chelsea fortunately has a break from Queen Elizabeth funeral and FIFA days.

Yes, Chelsea are very happy to have brought Graham Potter to Chelsea, and it is a shame that Tuchel did not have much support from the Chelsea players and considers Graham Potter to be a better coach than him and also a proven innovator in the Premier League to match Chelsea.
and hopefully true and Graham Potter can bring Chelsea back to life and the postponement of the game due to Queen Elizabeth's funeral is Graham Potter's chance to give Chelsea some serious training and can produce positive results in every game under his care.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on September 11, 2022, 04:47:02 PM

This will be quite interesting to see because I want to see if the Potters will overhaul their squad in the core line-up or stay the same as the Tuchel Era.

When a coach is sacked in middle of season, it mostly because of bad performance and internal conflicts. Mostly it is conflict between coach and players so when a coach is sacked, players will play better under a new coach.

I see underneath conflict between Tuchel and Chelsea players because after his sack, he did not get much support from Chelsea players even on social media. If this is really main issue, they will play better under Potter and we can expect better results in first few matches with Potter. In addition, Chelsea fortunately has a break from Queen Elizabeth funeral and FIFA days.

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Quote from: arimamib on September 11, 2022, 12:39:22 PM

Barcelona comes to the Allianz Arena with full of confidence, because in the last five matches they managed to win in a row. Barcelona attack line is also very productive, Barcelona always scored more than 2 in every game, Only the match against Rayo ended 0-0. The decline in Bayern Munich performance in the Bundesliga can be used by Barcelona to get a win in the second match in the UCL, Barcelona will try to make Bayern Munich swallow defeat as well as avenge them.

Based on Barcelona last match against Cadiz a lot of speculation said that this was part of a plan to prepare for Bayern Munich. Where Xavi did a massive rotation in the line-up. Since there are many options to choose from, of course it will look a little different. You could say that Barcelona 2nd tier team is no less difficult for opponents, so against Bayern Munich, Xavi can make 2 squads in one match. Other rumors Lewandowski will also be entrusted to lead Barcelona.

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UEFA has issued a statement that the Champions League match between Rangers FC vs. SSC Napoli, which was originally due to be played on Tuesday 13 September, has been rescheduled for Wednesday 14 September at 21.00 CET.

The postponement is more of a reduction in the concentration of security forces during the match following the death of Queen Elizabeth II, in addition, Napoli supporters will also not be allowed to travel to the Ibrox Stadium in Glasgow, while Rangers supporters will in turn be barred from traveling to Italy as well for the return match. the end of this year.

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But do I think Bayern Munich can beat Barcelona?

I don't know, Bayern Munich is a strong team and it has been proven season after season. But for this season I think Barcelona will not be so easily defeated by Bayern Munich considering the quality of Barcelona at this time is quite reliable. I'd prefer to see their two meetings this season in the group stages end in draws, but I have a bit of faith that Barcelona can win that match too.

It is the most interesting match in my opinion to look forward to, I really don't want to miss that match later.

At least now their strength can be considered as equal but if you look at H2H now it is clear that Bayern are far superior to Barcelona.
There are good things for Barcelona this season because one of the actors of their massacre namely Lewandowski is now at Barcelona so this is something good for them although it is still a little difficult to win if it is only Lewandowski alone.

I would bet for barcelona to win this tuesday champions league matchday , despite bayern are indeed favorited by the bookies and statistically ... barcelona should have struggling but its just my feeling that barcelona going to beat bayern munich really hard this time for 3-1 or so.

Moreover ... with the world cup in 2023 .. all the club will have to play extra matchday and things could be really unpredictable when players tired & rested.

Bayern Munich couldn't win in three of their last Bundesliga matches, but they were able to beat Inter, i think they are taking Champions League more seriously, and i don't think i can bet on Barcelona to win, it feels wrong, but im pretty sure we will see a lot of goals, at least 3 in this match.

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Quote from: FanEagle on September 11, 2022, 04:00:26 PM

I am not sure "dismantle" would be the case. I mean Bayern is a bit more physically gifted team and they play like a machine, whereas Barcelona is a team of mind and they play with a good tactic and technique at the same time. So, it is going to be battle of two different mindsets and I am not sure if any team will dismantle the other.

So all in all, we should be focusing a bit towards how we could end up with a situation where it is close to a tied game, maybe one will win but the difference will not be big neither in score nor while watching the game neither.

But for now Nagelsmann is also busy with the condition of their players who seem to be losing productivity, especially when they see their draw for 3 weeks in a row.
It becomes a bit difficult if Barcelona play like they always show in La Liga this season. Apart from H2H which put Bayern ahead, it will still be a little difficult to predict who will win now.

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