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Quote from: swogerino on September 13, 2022, 01:59:19 AM

Now Bayern is also in a much better shape than Barcelona...

bayern is 10000% weaker than in past seasons, let's look at the last 3 games:

Bayern:

Bayern 1 - 1 union berlin

union berlin is not a strong team and bayern only managed to score 1 goal and conceded 1 goal

Bayern 2 - 0 inter

honestly, those who watched this game can see that inter is very weak and even then bayern just failed and only managed to score 2 goals because 1 goal was an own goal

Bayern 2 - 2 vfb sttugart

vfb sttugart is not a strong team either and still managed to score 2 goals.

Now check out the Barcelona stats:

Barcelona 3 - 0 Sevilla

Barcelona 4 - 1 plzen

Barcelona 4 - 0 cadiz

barcelona has a chance to win, i don't understand why the bookmakers are putting bayern as a favorite in this game

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Quote from: Jackl87 on September 13, 2022, 09:15:42 AM

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Today there will be a match schedule which of course everyone is waiting for, whether Liverpool vs Ajax or the more prestigious Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. After all, Bayern Munich hype is quite high. The two last met last year and Barcelona lost badly. This is an opportunity to turn things around if today Xavi will maximize his full squad. I don't think Bayern Munich is easy to beat. Because this club is one of the most difficult clubs to beat.

There are definitely some interesting matches happening this evening. Liverpool vs. Ajax is interesting because Liverpool is already under quite a lot of pressure because they lost their first match with 1-4 against Napoli and if they are not victorious today again i think it will begin to become uncomfortable for Klopp slowly but surely.
The match Bayern Munich vs. FC Barcelona is probably one of the most prestigious matches that can happen in the world of football. Barca this year is definitely stronger than the squad of last year so it will be a very close match in my opinion. Bayern also some trouble at the moment because they had 3 draws in a row now in the Bundesliga.

If I consider Bayern Munich and Barcelona at this moment based on their performance in the local league, then I would definitely say Barcelona are better. But indeed, if it's about the Champions League match, of course it will be a different prestige because when a top team plays against a top team it will be the one with high prestige. Unlike the case when a top team plays against a mediocre team, there will always be views about underestimating the mediocre team. But in this match of course Barcelona will fight hard to get revenge, but if Barcelona rely entirely on Lewandowski to score goals then maybe it will be something difficult to accept.

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Quote from: gabbie2010 on September 13, 2022, 09:52:50 AM

I hope Liverpool wins today in Anfield against the youthful Ajax who won their first match against Rangers 4-0 else they will be a precarious position if they drew or lose today, the in-form Napoli will be playing their match tomorrow against Rangers will be at advantage and would have known the outcome of today's match between Liverpool and Ajax, honestly Liverpool had been in bad shape this season Klopp has a lot of work to do reposition his club both in the league and UCL, the club has injury worries, unfit players and tired legs consequently pushing the club backward.

Important match for Liverpool because they must win this match to prevent a worse crisis. If they lose it, they will face with a more serious crisis and in Champions League, they only have 6 matches to play. Losing 2 matches are very bad and seriously affects their chance to go next.

Ajax is not an amateur in Champions League and Liverpool will have another hard test to get out of the crisis. In this group, Napoli will compete with Liverpool and Ajax for two tickets to go next. If Liverpool lose to both direct competitors, that is terrible for them.

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The new Ajax Amsterdam coach Alfred Schroder admitted that he had witnessed Manchester United's victory over Liverpool, he also said that he had memorized the weak points of Jorgen Klopp's men, Erik Tan Hag's former club will travel to Anfield on Wednesday 14 September 2022, indeed temporarily. be Liferpol's performance is not good. consistently after being left by Sadio Mane, Liverpool were defeated by Napoli with a score of 4-1, although in the previous match Liverpool had negative results but I still believe Liverpool was able to rise and managed to secure the full three points, because in my opinion the Anfield stadium is famous for being very haunted, even Liverpool have made a great comeback against a big club at anfield stadium.

If you look at Liverpool's games, basically all bad results happen when the team is playing away. Everything looks better at Anfield, apparently native walls still help. Liverpool is a team with character, Klopp has to find the right words for the players to show their best game. It is a pity that the matches of Liverpool and Bayern are on the same day, I would like to watch both of these matches live.

I hope Liverpool wins today in Anfield against the youthful Ajax who won their first match against Rangers 4-0 else they will be a precarious position if they drew or lose today, the in-form Napoli will be playing their match tomorrow against Rangers will be at advantage and would have known the outcome of today's match between Liverpool and Ajax, honestly Liverpool had been in bad shape this season Klopp has a lot of work to do reposition his club both in the league and UCL, the club has injury worries, unfit players and tired legs consequently pushing the club backward.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 12, 2022, 09:20:27 AM

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Do you think it can't be just because it would have dire consequences for Liverpool? Grin

In such a case, you can bet all your free money on this game and easily get 50% profit Roll Eyes

Barcelona didn't make it out of a relatively easy group last year, why can't that happen to someone else? In addition, even a defeat leaves Liverpool with a theoretical chance of eventually getting a ticket to the playoffs.

Yes a theoretical chance but an eventual lost game in their home field when the fans are on fire to see a win in the Champions League after Liverpool really bad results so far both in Premier and Champions League means their moral will get down a lot.This can only bring bad consequences to the already bad form of Liverpool,so I also agree tomorrow Liverpool needs to win but maybe betting on both teams to score yes is a better option in this game considering that Liverpool has conceded in almost every game they have played except the Everton game.

The problem is not the desires of the teams - Barcelona also did not want to be eliminated at the group stage last year. The problem is whether the odds outweigh the risk. In my opinion, the odds of 1.5 do not compensate for the risk at all and Liverpool is overrated. I would call odds 1.8-1.85 much fairer and more interesting, although I wouldn't bet even on those odds.

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Quote from: Luzin on September 13, 2022, 08:49:24 AM

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Many people have been looking forward to this day, especially the Barcelona Vs Bayern Munich game; Barcelona will try to use the strength of their team to exact revenge because Bayern won their previous match against Barcelona.

This match certainly provided a motive for Xavi. I think if they manage to draw or win the losing record to Bayern Munchen will come to a halt. Xavi has the capital to do that. Xavi has players of the same quality as Bayern Munchen, they are only different in mentality. Munich is certainly more confident because playing in Germany while Barca will certainly get pressure from the twelfth player.
Bayern Munchen and Barceona have the same points, naturally interesting. There are inter too who are ready to make a surprise, but in Group C I think it will be Bayern Munchen and Barcelona who will qualify for the knockout phase.

Xavi has been able to change Barcelona for the better maybe his previous defeat in the UCL would be revenge but it is possible that Bayern Munich are also very tough opponents but with a draw this is possible because they are in their best form.
Regarding the mentality, of course they have prepared for tonight, they can't understand if the two will be different but for me this match will be more waiting for the fans.
It's just that Bayern's advantage is playing at Allianz.

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Quote from: naira on September 13, 2022, 07:18:06 AM

Today there will be a match schedule which of course everyone is waiting for, whether Liverpool vs Ajax or the more prestigious Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. After all, Bayern Munich hype is quite high. The two last met last year and Barcelona lost badly. This is an opportunity to turn things around if today Xavi will maximize his full squad. I don't think Bayern Munich is easy to beat. Because this club is one of the most difficult clubs to beat.

There are definitely some interesting matches happening this evening. Liverpool vs. Ajax is interesting because Liverpool is already under quite a lot of pressure because they lost their first match with 1-4 against Napoli and if they are not victorious today again i think it will begin to become uncomfortable for Klopp slowly but surely.
The match Bayern Munich vs. FC Barcelona is probably one of the most prestigious matches that can happen in the world of football. Barca this year is definitely stronger than the squad of last year so it will be a very close match in my opinion. Bayern also some trouble at the moment because they had 3 draws in a row now in the Bundesliga.

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Quote from: Luzin on September 13, 2022, 08:49:24 AM

This match certainly provided a motive for Xavi. I think if they manage to draw or win the losing record to Bayern Munchen will come to a halt. Xavi has the capital to do that. Xavi has players of the same quality as Bayern Munchen, they are only different in mentality. Munich is certainly more confident because playing in Germany while Barca will certainly get pressure from the twelfth player.
Bayern Munchen and Barceona have the same points, naturally interesting. There are inter too who are ready to make a surprise, but in Group C I think it will be Bayern Munchen and Barcelona who will qualify for the knockout phase.

I will pick inter to have a hold on the second spot Bayern and barca will fight for first place and the loser will settle for third. As for todays match I would love a Bayern win with three goals margin but considering Barcelona's recent form and Bayern's slow start to the season it will be logical to bet on Barcelona.

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Quote from: Hyphen(-) on September 13, 2022, 08:36:36 AM

Many people have been looking forward to this day, especially the Barcelona Vs Bayern Munich game; Barcelona will try to use the strength of their team to exact revenge because Bayern won their previous match against Barcelona.

This match certainly provided a motive for Xavi. I think if they manage to draw or win the losing record to Bayern Munchen will come to a halt. Xavi has the capital to do that. Xavi has players of the same quality as Bayern Munchen, they are only different in mentality. Munich is certainly more confident because playing in Germany while Barca will certainly get pressure from the twelfth player.
Bayern Munchen and Barceona have the same points, naturally interesting. There are inter too who are ready to make a surprise, but in Group C I think it will be Bayern Munchen and Barcelona who will qualify for the knockout phase.

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Quote from: naira on September 13, 2022, 07:18:06 AM

Today there will be a match schedule which of course everyone is waiting for, whether Liverpool vs Ajax or the more prestigious Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. After all, Bayern Munich hype is quite high. The two last met last year and Barcelona lost badly. This is an opportunity to turn things around if today Xavi will maximize his full squad. I don't think Bayern Munich is easy to beat. Because this club is one of the most difficult clubs to beat.

I hope we are presented with the optimal appearance of both. So that you know the extent of the difference between the two, especially Barcelona who are trying to improve their fortunes this season.

Many people have been looking forward to this day, especially the Barcelona Vs Bayern Munich game; Barcelona will try to use the strength of their team to exact revenge because Bayern won their previous match against Barcelona.

If we consider their last two matches played against each other, Liverpool stand a chance to win the match against Ajax. There is a chance for the reds to win after suffering a 4-1 defeat against Napoli at Anfield stadium last week.

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Quote from: Smartvirus on September 12, 2022, 12:30:41 PM

Looking at the zeal at which both players @R. Lewandowski and @E. Haaland were anxious of living the team, you naturally won't expect R. Lewandowski not to be anxious. I mean, his singed 2 contracts and played at least 7years for Bayern Munich and through his times with the club, his bee the star man and scored goals that were important for the team. His done his share and so, seeking other teams is actually the least thing on his profile.
When it comes to Erling Haaland, he joined up with Borussia Dortmund back in 2019 and haven't spent more tha 3years with the team before signing for Manchester City. He haven't done much or spent most of his years like Lewandowski has and not to mention that, Lewandowski has past his prime already. His got to leave and try other team mates.

Speaking of the games, it's not going to be an easy one between Bayern vs Barcelona but the result for Manchester City vs Borussia Dortmund can be almost concluded on.

This is normal for Dortmund, they sell their leaders very often, while Bayern, on the contrary, tries to keep the most valuable players in the team. I still don’t remember that some player would like to leave Bayern of his own free will, and even so persistently as it was with Lewandowski. Perhaps you are right, the Bayern players are professionals and Lewandowski gave himself completely to the team, he was without a doubt the best. It will be nice if he can score a few goals against Bayern today.

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Today there will be a match schedule which of course everyone is waiting for, whether Liverpool vs Ajax or the more prestigious Barcelona vs Bayern Munich. After all, Bayern Munich hype is quite high. The two last met last year and Barcelona lost badly. This is an opportunity to turn things around if today Xavi will maximize his full squad. I don't think Bayern Munich is easy to beat. Because this club is one of the most difficult clubs to beat.

I hope we are presented with the optimal appearance of both. So that you know the extent of the difference between the two, especially Barcelona who are trying to improve their fortunes this season.

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Every year everyone thinks that this is time for City to win, and every year they find a way to lose and meanwhile La Liga teams always end up going further than anyone gives them credit for.

People do not realize this but if you look at the rankings, even though Premier league clubs have more money and more freedom and La Liga teams have a lot more trouble financially and need to follow some rules and do not get the same love globally (even though still loved a lot) we are not seeing premier league clubs having the same type of luck. In the end, I believe that it would be still either Real Madrid or Barcelona that will win it this year as well.

The problem is not that simple.
We know that at the moment it is difficult for them to achieve their desire because in this case we know that City is a great club but on the other hand the Champions League is not that easy to beat. There are so many teams that can be said to be superiors that even City find it difficult to reach.

So many times city have been trying so heard but always got beaten by another club. Remember when it was facing chelsea in final and chelsea able to win against city through a very dramatic story. The fact that if any club that can go to the final has the same capabilities to become a winner. Im not feeling doubt if that will make city will be so hard to achieve this title even when it was being coached by guardiola.
I didn't even think if this is an easy competition for city. So many times have been trying so hard to achieve this tittle.

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The new Ajax Amsterdam coach Alfred Schroder admitted that he had witnessed Manchester United's victory over Liverpool, he also said that he had memorized the weak points of Jorgen Klopp's men, Erik Tan Hag's former club will travel to Anfield on Wednesday 14 September 2022, indeed temporarily. be Liferpol's performance is not good. consistently after being left by Sadio Mane, Liverpool were defeated by Napoli with a score of 4-1, although in the previous match Liverpool had negative results but I still believe Liverpool was able to rise and managed to secure the full three points, because in my opinion the Anfield stadium is famous for being very haunted, even Liverpool have made a great comeback against a big club at anfield stadium.

If you look at Liverpool's games, basically all bad results happen when the team is playing away. Everything looks better at Anfield, apparently native walls still help. Liverpool is a team with character, Klopp has to find the right words for the players to show their best game. It is a pity that the matches of Liverpool and Bayern are on the same day, I would like to watch both of these matches live.

You can say Liverpool are unbreakable when playing at home. But looking at their games at home this season, they have only play against mid table teams and haven’t beaten them with more than 1 goal. It shows how bad they have been playing both away and at home. Now they’ll be playing against a high scoring Side, Ajax. Liverpool haven’t been defensively solid this season. I don’t know what to make of their defense this season. I’m sure that Ajax will score more than two goals at Anfield.

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Quote from: 8rch7 on September 13, 2022, 05:00:34 AM

The new Ajax Amsterdam coach Alfred Schroder admitted that he had witnessed Manchester United's victory over Liverpool, he also said that he had memorized the weak points of Jorgen Klopp's men, Erik Tan Hag's former club will travel to Anfield on Wednesday 14 September 2022, indeed temporarily. be Liferpol's performance is not good. consistently after being left by Sadio Mane, Liverpool were defeated by Napoli with a score of 4-1, although in the previous match Liverpool had negative results but I still believe Liverpool was able to rise and managed to secure the full three points, because in my opinion the Anfield stadium is famous for being very haunted, even Liverpool have made a great comeback against a big club at anfield stadium.

If you look at Liverpool's games, basically all bad results happen when the team is playing away. Everything looks better at Anfield, apparently native walls still help. Liverpool is a team with character, Klopp has to find the right words for the players to show their best game. It is a pity that the matches of Liverpool and Bayern are on the same day, I would like to watch both of these matches live.

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Quote from: bering on September 13, 2022, 02:19:20 AM

Klopp actually had good records while against Ajax that on 2020 he can beat Ajax twice in this competition and this should be can motivated him to get first winning from this match but Ajax performance quite impressive this season and win with big scores 4-0 from Rangers makes them can be considers as strong opponent in group A and although Liverpool had poor performance this season but during playing at Anfield they can able to playing good so in this match Liverpool probably can get 3 points from Ajax and the odds for Liverpool is @1.58

The new Ajax Amsterdam coach Alfred Schroder admitted that he had witnessed Manchester United's victory over Liverpool, he also said that he had memorized the weak points of Jorgen Klopp's men, Erik Tan Hag's former club will travel to Anfield on Wednesday 14 September 2022, indeed temporarily. be Liferpol's performance is not good. consistently after being left by Sadio Mane, Liverpool were defeated by Napoli with a score of 4-1, although in the previous match Liverpool had negative results but I still believe Liverpool was able to rise and managed to secure the full three points, because in my opinion the Anfield stadium is famous for being very haunted, even Liverpool have made a great comeback against a big club at anfield stadium.

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Quote from: blue_hurricanger on September 13, 2022, 03:27:53 AM

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All eyes of football fans will be on Bayern-Barcelona tonight. Especially dramatic will be the fact that it is Robert Lewandowski's first match against his former team. But I still think that Bayern will win, although the outcome could be anything, because Barcelona are in good form right now. It would also be fun if Ajax beat Liverpool away because they also show great football. Lots of really interesting matches today!

Most likely Bayern will win as Barcelona despite being in good form cannot stand a chance against Bayern tonight.The reason for that is simple,even when Barcelona had all the super star players of the world Bayern beat them like 0-6 or something like that which showed great supremacy from Bayern.Now Bayern is also in a much better shape than Barcelona is so it is widely expected a victory for them but as I said before it is better to bet on both teams to score rather than on money line.

Using past match results between clubs to guess today's match is not a good indication. Sure Barcelona has a good number of superstar players back then and still lose to Bayern. In my opinion, Barcelona right now despite doesn't have the level of superstar players compared to back then, they're still on the same level back then altogether as a team. Had high hope for Barcelona to meet with Bayern tonight and I say both teams are on the very same level right now. You're right on bet on both teams to score.

this is a Champions League match of course the tension will be different so Bayern who played badly in the Bundesliga is not a reference that he will experience the same thing on the UCL stage.
In terms of quality, Bayern and Barcelona are not much different and it is true that Barcelona's performance in the last few matches in the domestic league is very impressive, but the opponent they are facing now is Bayern. Of course, this will be very difficult and fierce.
it is difficult to predict who will win, in the same quality of course both still have the same chance to win.

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Quote from: swogerino on September 13, 2022, 01:59:19 AM

Quote from: fzkto on September 13, 2022, 01:55:55 AM

All eyes of football fans will be on Bayern-Barcelona tonight. Especially dramatic will be the fact that it is Robert Lewandowski's first match against his former team. But I still think that Bayern will win, although the outcome could be anything, because Barcelona are in good form right now. It would also be fun if Ajax beat Liverpool away because they also show great football. Lots of really interesting matches today!

Most likely Bayern will win as Barcelona despite being in good form cannot stand a chance against Bayern tonight.The reason for that is simple,even when Barcelona had all the super star players of the world Bayern beat them like 0-6 or something like that which showed great supremacy from Bayern.Now Bayern is also in a much better shape than Barcelona is so it is widely expected a victory for them but as I said before it is better to bet on both teams to score rather than on money line.

Using past match results between clubs to guess today's match is not a good indication. Sure Barcelona has a good number of superstar players back then and still lose to Bayern. In my opinion, Barcelona right now despite doesn't have the level of superstar players compared to back then, they're still on the same level back then altogether as a team. Had high hope for Barcelona to meet with Bayern tonight and I say both teams are on the very same level right now. You're right on bet on both teams to score.

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Quote from: imamusma on September 12, 2022, 06:19:18 PM

Quote from: uchegod-21 on September 12, 2022, 06:05:46 PM

Manchester City is not the only ones that are faced with this challenges of high expectations and low performance or hard luck. Can you also put PSG in the list?
Every year we will think that Pep will lift the Champions League, even few seasons ago he managed to get to the finals, he surprisingly lost to Chelsea with one foreign football without striker and defensive midfield.

PSG and Manchester City shared the same fate regarding their struggles in the Champions League. Both teams have never tasted the title even though both have been runners-up in the Champions League. They are the richest team but with all the bad luck for the Champions League title.

I think the fate of both is the same this season because I don't think PSG or Manchester City have won the title. Agree or not, they can't do it anytime soon but in the future they will. But it is possible to favorite them to the final mainly because their quality is very good.

Luck has not been on their side on several occasions, both Man City and PSG always target the Champions League title but failure always comes their way. if you look at the strength of the team and the depth of the players, both clubs are qualified to be favorites and on this occasion, they will again be one of the strongest contestants to get the title apart from several other candidates from the Spanish league or Bundesliga.
And again their chances are quite big, but whether they are able to break the record for the first time to become champions, let's see later and let time tell.

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Klopp actually had good records while against Ajax that on 2020 he can beat Ajax twice in this competition and this should be can motivated him to get first winning from this match but Ajax performance quite impressive this season and win with big scores 4-0 from Rangers makes them can be considers as strong opponent in group A and although Liverpool had poor performance this season but during playing at Anfield they can able to playing good so in this match Liverpool probably can get 3 points from Ajax and the odds for Liverpool is @1.58

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