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September 10, 2022, 08:35:00 AM
Liverpool arent in form at the moment and that reflects in the odds provided. They drew 0-0 to Everton, who arent doing great themselves and lost 4-1 to Napoli in the Champions League. Last time Ajax and Liverpool met, the score was in favor of Liverpool in both meetings but was a marginal 1-0 wins.
There will be many possibilities that Ajax could beat Liverpool this time. Unless Klopp really puts pressure on players to be more productive on the pitch. Moh Salah also seems to lack support on the front lines. Nunez can play all 90 minutes. Just as an option to steal an early start is much better than being depressed at the end. The defeat of Napoli made Klopp have to be able to neutralize his team's performance again to be more aggressive.

Liverpool's next Champions League match will be against Ajax, but many people doubt Liverpool can beat Ajax. It was all because of Liverpool's
poor performance against Napoli, while Ajax performed very well by beating Rangers. To be honest I'm quite impressed with Ajax, this season
actually they lost a lot of players who moved to other teams, they even lost the Ten Hag as their coach. But Ajax can show an extraordinary
performance against Rangers. So it's not surprising if at the end Ajax can beat Liverpool. Moreover, Liverpool's performance has really decreased
in this season compared to the previous season.

But I still believe it was Liverpool who played at Anfield, then the previous head to head meeting where Liverpool managed to beat Ajax.
So should the Liverpool vs Ajax match in the Champions League, Liverpool can beat Ajax. Because I believe Klopp is a great coach, which Klopp
will try to improve Liverpool's form. We must not forget Klopp's contribution in previous seasons, I think Klopp will get Liverpool back to their best form.
But it's best not to bet on the Liverpool vs Ajax match, because the results are really difficult to predict.
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September 10, 2022, 08:08:46 AM
On September 14, there will be a very exciting match, both Liverpool and Ajax, which of course Ajax are much more prepared with their current performance than Liverpool, who are losing a bit of themselves after losing to Napoli. Barcelona also seems to be saving players in La Liga to be able to balance Bayern Munich because the time lag is close enough to minimize injuries so that no players are injured. With so many alternative options, the main Barcelona squad against Cadiz must be simplified.

Liverpool odd 1.50 at home is quite inviting I would say and Ajax despite playing very well in their home league and the Champions League also I think Liverpool needs to win this game at all costs and I am going to place a bet on them.Rarely I have seen Liverpool with 1.50 odds in a game where they play at home against an opponent of a weaker league compared to the Premier League,I know the Liverpool recent form is not the most brilliant of them but I think they will get a massive victory this time,kinda like that of Bournemouth.

Liverpool have been far from their former form in recent weeks.  Ajax is doing really well.  I see the 1.50 rate as risky.  I remember what happened last week.  They lost 4-1 to Napoli.  This score makes me think and scare me.  I am not betting on this game.  If I were to bet, “I would bet like a goal will be scored in the match.
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On September 14, there will be a very exciting match, both Liverpool and Ajax, which of course Ajax are much more prepared with their current performance than Liverpool, who are losing a bit of themselves after losing to Napoli. Barcelona also seems to be saving players in La Liga to be able to balance Bayern Munich because the time lag is close enough to minimize injuries so that no players are injured. With so many alternative options, the main Barcelona squad against Cadiz must be simplified.

No doubt, Barcelona will win Cadiz in this match to improve their points because their game so far is well organized for them not to experience any losses from any teams for the remaining matches. Since Barcelona defenders are now doing wonders to secure the back from any strikers not to have access to their goalpost will really help them to win Cadiz 4-0 to prove that many things has changed positively with them in this season. I don't think, Liverpool will allow their opponent to win them in their next match than to do everything possible within their power to ensure they win the match to make their coach happy again.
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September 10, 2022, 06:27:39 AM
The defeat from Napoli indicates that Liverpool currently seems to be in a bad performance, the series of bad results obtained by Liverpool makes me quite doubtful if they can beat Ajax easily, the lack of creativity from Liverpool midfielders in the previous few matches makes Liverpool strikers like lost their sharpness, in the match against napoli it was seen that Salah and Firmino were not well supported by the midfielders so they didn't have enough chances to score goals, but I think there is a slight advantage for liverpool in the match against ajax later cause they play at anfield, because so far Liverpool players performance actually looks better and has high motivation when they play at Anfield.
Liverpool have flashes when they play well, but they are extremely unstable, and Ajax consistently crushes their rivals in every match. Liverpool, even being in good shape, beat Ajax 1:0, and now it will be even more difficult for them. 5.75 on Ajax seems like a lot, I initially thought that Ajax would not lose in this match.
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September 10, 2022, 06:23:56 AM
Liverpool arent in form at the moment and that reflects in the odds provided. They drew 0-0 to Everton, who arent doing great themselves and lost 4-1 to Napoli in the Champions League. Last time Ajax and Liverpool met, the score was in favor of Liverpool in both meetings but was a marginal 1-0 wins.
There will be many possibilities that Ajax could beat Liverpool this time. Unless Klopp really puts pressure on players to be more productive on the pitch. Moh Salah also seems to lack support on the front lines. Nunez can play all 90 minutes. Just as an option to steal an early start is much better than being depressed at the end. The defeat of Napoli made Klopp have to be able to neutralize his team's performance again to be more aggressive.
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September 10, 2022, 06:20:02 AM
On September 14, there will be a very exciting match, both Liverpool and Ajax, which of course Ajax are much more prepared with their current performance than Liverpool, who are losing a bit of themselves after losing to Napoli. Barcelona also seems to be saving players in La Liga to be able to balance Bayern Munich because the time lag is close enough to minimize injuries so that no players are injured. With so many alternative options, the main Barcelona squad against Cadiz must be simplified.

Liverpool odd 1.50 at home is quite inviting I would say and Ajax despite playing very well in their home league and the Champions League also I think Liverpool needs to win this game at all costs and I am going to place a bet on them.Rarely I have seen Liverpool with 1.50 odds in a game where they play at home against an opponent of a weaker league compared to the Premier League,I know the Liverpool recent form is not the most brilliant of them but I think they will get a massive victory this time,kinda like that of Bournemouth.

Liverpool win has a really attracting odd but it is still not a credible choice at all. This is still a very important match for them to start recovering of course. However I don't expect any comfortable win like you. They have two head-to-heads recently and both of them ended by close results as @vennali indicated. If we take Ajax's current form and strength into account it isn't easy for Liverpool to defeat them comfortably. Ajax might have a weaker league compared to the EPL. But this doesn't affect their performance in the Champions League badly. Besides I might choose BTTS @1.54 for this one as Liverpool are very bad at defending now.



When it comes to Bayern Munich - Barcelona, it is another tough match to predict the result of. Bayern Munich seem closer to a win but we don't have the old Barcelona anymore. Barcelona should be able to show a big resistance against them. It shouldn't be too difficult for them to score at least one goal thanks to Lewandowski especially. Everyone wonders how motivated he will be for this match but I don't have any doubt. It looks like BTTS could be a good choice for this one too @1.41.
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Liverpool odd 1.50 at home is quite inviting I would say and Ajax despite playing very well in their home league and the Champions League also I think Liverpool needs to win this game at all costs and I am going to place a bet on them.Rarely I have seen Liverpool with 1.50 odds in a game where they play at home against an opponent of a weaker league compared to the Premier League,I know the Liverpool recent form is not the most brilliant of them but I think they will get a massive victory this time,kinda like that of Bournemouth.
Liverpool arent in form at the moment and that reflects in the odds provided. They drew 0-0 to Everton, who arent doing great themselves and lost 4-1 to Napoli in the Champions League. Last time Ajax and Liverpool met, the score was in favor of Liverpool in both meetings but was a marginal 1-0 wins.
The defeat from Napoli indicates that Liverpool currently seems to be in a bad performance, the series of bad results obtained by Liverpool makes me quite doubtful if they can beat Ajax easily, the lack of creativity from Liverpool midfielders in the previous few matches makes Liverpool strikers like lost their sharpness, in the match against napoli it was seen that Salah and Firmino were not well supported by the midfielders so they didn't have enough chances to score goals, but I think there is a slight advantage for liverpool in the match against ajax later cause they play at anfield, because so far Liverpool players performance actually looks better and has high motivation when they play at Anfield.
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Liverpool odd 1.50 at home is quite inviting I would say and Ajax despite playing very well in their home league and the Champions League also I think Liverpool needs to win this game at all costs and I am going to place a bet on them.Rarely I have seen Liverpool with 1.50 odds in a game where they play at home against an opponent of a weaker league compared to the Premier League,I know the Liverpool recent form is not the most brilliant of them but I think they will get a massive victory this time,kinda like that of Bournemouth.
Liverpool arent in form at the moment and that reflects in the odds provided. They drew 0-0 to Everton, who arent doing great themselves and lost 4-1 to Napoli in the Champions League. Last time Ajax and Liverpool met, the score was in favor of Liverpool in both meetings but was a marginal 1-0 wins.
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September 10, 2022, 04:27:03 AM
The best match I will be looking forward to for the second match of the group stage this week is the Bayern Munich vs Barcelona match.  the headquarters of his former team where he is currently part of another team.

Lewandowski proved to be doing his best for Barcelona by scoring a hattrick against Plzen, but I'll also be waiting to see if he can beat his former team this week. Obviously this will be very interesting to look forward to.



As for a betting choice I'd rather continuing with both teams to score. It is safer than trusting any side here.
 I know it is going to be a thug of war on the match day as both Barcelona and Bayern are very good.Lewandoski will be marked properly because Bayern knows his qualities that he is a dangerous goal machine. This match will be fun if you don't support any club. Its a big match amongst the qualifying round, I will just relax to watch good football so that I don't get upset if any of the club win. Football is unpredictable.

A must watch game you see mate, they both met last when Bayern Munich drubbed Barcelona, that was large number of goals with Lionel Messi also part of the champions league game.
It's a fifty fifty chance, whoever wins and conquers the midfield first and controls the ball flow wins the game, although most at times, both teams might be excellent and very compact, you have to see individual player's becoming game deciders in games like this.
Only GOD can settle the beef between Bayern Munich and Barcelona..  this is a must seen game and shouldn't be missed.
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September 10, 2022, 04:06:13 AM
On September 14, there will be a very exciting match, both Liverpool and Ajax, which of course Ajax are much more prepared with their current performance than Liverpool, who are losing a bit of themselves after losing to Napoli. Barcelona also seems to be saving players in La Liga to be able to balance Bayern Munich because the time lag is close enough to minimize injuries so that no players are injured. With so many alternative options, the main Barcelona squad against Cadiz must be simplified.

Liverpool odd 1.50 at home is quite inviting I would say and Ajax despite playing very well in their home league and the Champions League also I think Liverpool needs to win this game at all costs and I am going to place a bet on them.Rarely I have seen Liverpool with 1.50 odds in a game where they play at home against an opponent of a weaker league compared to the Premier League,I know the Liverpool recent form is not the most brilliant of them but I think they will get a massive victory this time,kinda like that of Bournemouth.
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September 10, 2022, 03:56:03 AM
On September 14, there will be a very exciting match, both Liverpool and Ajax, which of course Ajax are much more prepared with their current performance than Liverpool, who are losing a bit of themselves after losing to Napoli. Barcelona also seems to be saving players in La Liga to be able to balance Bayern Munich because the time lag is close enough to minimize injuries so that no players are injured. With so many alternative options, the main Barcelona squad against Cadiz must be simplified.
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September 09, 2022, 10:45:55 PM
It is impossible for a baby when it is born to immediately run after its father or mother. Darwin Nunez came to Liverpool not from an English club. An adaptation process is necessary for a new player. Darwin Nunez also cannot play alone without the support of other players. Let alone Nunez, Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi are also not able to do a good job if the service is not provided by teammates.

Darwin Nunez was brought in as a replacement for Sadio Mane. So the expectations from him will naturally be higher than mine. But he is still young. Darwin Nunez is only 23 years old. Three are talented enough but not experienced. Experience is definitely required in a competitive platform like the Premier League. It also takes time to adapt to the team. He has just played four matches in Liverpool's jersey. Scored a goal and an assist. Darwin Nunez needs more time to adjust to the team. Hopefully, he can become a worthy replacement for Liverpool's Sadio Mane in the future.
This should be understood by Liverpool fans that Darwin Nunez needs time even though it can be considered a classic reason.
When many clubs want to recruit him, it is proof that Nunez candidates for big stars in the future. I don't want to compare Nunez with Sadio Mane because Mane before joining Liverpool already felt the atmosphere of the English Premier League with Southampton.

The decline in the quality of the game that occurred in Liverpool lies in the player's condition and is not entirely because Darwin Nunez has not yet appeared as expected.
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September 09, 2022, 10:15:24 PM
Yes indeed, Dinamo Zagreb has a chance to qualify but Bodo/Glimt itself cannot be underestimated at all. The home factor for Dinamo Zagreb does have a good effect on them, at the same time Bodo/Glimt for European tournaments don't seem so good when they play away and it's very different when they play in the local league. So yes, the point is that Dinamo Zagreb should not underestimate the opponent, the fact that playing at home makes Dinamo Zagreb have a very good chance to qualify.
After they have already lost the first game, they definitely understand that their opponent is strong and will prepare well for the match. Dynamo Zagrub and PSV look like favorites today, both need a win and Zagreb won't even be enough just to win, they need more than one goal win to qualify for the group stage, if it's will a minimum win then there will be extra time. I wonder what PSV will choose, attacking football or a game with an emphasis on defense? But PSV is superior to their opponent, they must win at home.
About PSV, they got a difficult opponent but even so, PSV still looks fine, at least its performance in the local league proves that PSV still has a chance to qualify. That way, I personally have no doubts about PSV and Dinamo Zagreb because I included both of them in the parlay bet, although indeed, there will always be strong resistance from the away team. Moreover, these two home teams at least need to win and continue to score goals when they get a chance, because playing defensively or maintaining their advantage will only make them lose their chance to qualify.

PSV looks to win today. PSV's squad is quite strong compared to Rangers. Besides, PSV players are in great form now. However, it will not be easy for Dinamo Zagreb to win today. Bodo Glimt is perhaps not a renowned group. However, their performance in home matches was good. And so if Bodo Glimt can draw today's match then they can qualify for the next round.

Well I think that the Dinamo Zagreb players are doing very well, I saw their matches and they have very good concentration and understand each other very well on the pitch, I think this can help them a lot, I also agree that PSV has a much better line-up than the Rangers, but they can't be trusted either, sometimes the players who have a very good squad and trust themselves and things can go very badly and this usually happens to the big teams and when they give them those falls it makes everything collapse and not allow them to come out of that hole as quickly as possible, then both soccer and boxing are sports that for me can turn around quickly.


The classic reason when it comes to adaptation. Nunez is not a player who just plunged into the world of football one day. This is not a matter of adaptation, but Liverpool's internal problems starting to lose concentration. Mohammad Salah looked dissatisfied and he played erratically. The first half looked bad. If you look at the time Nunez came in wasn't it enough
to get a little change? If Klopp had earlier satisfied Nunez maybe conceding 4-1 could be a different story. Unfortunately, Liverpool has now lost a lot of direction in the game.
Liverpool's defense in this match was terrible, Gomez looked especially weak. Firmino was not visible at all, maybe he should have been replaced even earlier, it's hard to say when the team loses with such a rout, then all the players are to blame. I expected Liverpool to be able to beat Napoli but Liverpool still can't find their game, they are still feverish at the beginning of this season.

For  Napoli to defeat Liverpool without any stress it tells that Liverpool is really having serious problems. Liverpool performance was very poor, am even surprised that player like Mohammed Salah was not good enough in the match. It just a pity that Liverpool may not achieve anything if they continue with a bad performance like this.
There are some rumours that due to the liverpool was loosing against napoli and jurgen kloop wanna be shacked like tuchel. I didn't know if this rumour will come true or not but the performance from liverpool have ben decreasing a lot even when it was also playing on EPL.
Winning with so many goals and create a new record didn't mean if the performance from the team can sustain for long term. Im not feeling so good with the condition of liverpool this time.
It seems like the team needs to take more time to think about that. Im glad that EPL gets delayed due to the queen's elizabeth
Well, Liverpool will always be one of the greats, don't think so, I've also seen how some of the great teams have lowered their performance, it's like something I don't know, because Bayern has also lost, Roma, which is one of the best in Italy has had two strong losses, so all this is normal for me, what is not normal is that it happens all the time, you can lose a maximum of 3 consecutive times, if it happens more than 3 consecutive times it is because there are problems deeper, it must be taken into account that now we have patience, and due to the duel that there is for the Queen, it is the ideal moment for all those faults in Liverpool to be fixed.
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The classic reason when it comes to adaptation. Nunez is not a player who just plunged into the world of football one day. This is not a matter of adaptation, but Liverpool's internal problems starting to lose concentration. Mohammad Salah looked dissatisfied and he played erratically. The first half looked bad. If you look at the time Nunez came in wasn't it enough
to get a little change? If Klopp had earlier satisfied Nunez maybe conceding 4-1 could be a different story. Unfortunately, Liverpool has now lost a lot of direction in the game.
Liverpool's defense in this match was terrible, Gomez looked especially weak. Firmino was not visible at all, maybe he should have been replaced even earlier, it's hard to say when the team loses with such a rout, then all the players are to blame. I expected Liverpool to be able to beat Napoli but Liverpool still can't find their game, they are still feverish at the beginning of this season.

For  Napoli to defeat Liverpool without any stress it tells that Liverpool is really having serious problems. Liverpool performance was very poor, am even surprised that player like Mohammed Salah was not good enough in the match. It just a pity that Liverpool may not achieve anything if they continue with a bad performance like this.
There are some rumours that due to the liverpool was loosing against napoli and jurgen kloop wanna be shacked like tuchel. I didn't know if this rumour will come true or not but the performance from liverpool have ben decreasing a lot even when it was also playing on EPL.
Winning with so many goals and create a new record didn't mean if the performance from the team can sustain for long term. Im not feeling so good with the condition of liverpool this time.
It seems like the team needs to take more time to think about that. Im glad that EPL gets delayed due to the queen's elizabeth
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September 09, 2022, 08:57:56 PM
Manchester City were favorites for the Champions League title in the last two seasons. Their performances were quite stable and their squad was quite strong. Yet they are hopeful. Manchester City's fortunes have always been on the Champions League platform. Manchester City has a strong squad this season as well. And they are in very good form. Even then we cannot guarantee that Manchester City will do well in the Champions League. But hopefully, we will see Manchester City in the final this season.

The problem with the Champions League is that just because you have the strongest team and are showing the strongest performances over the whole season does not automatically mean that you are also winning the trophy. As you already said Manchester City was the big favorite to win the Champions League in the last two years already but they just could not get the job done. Especially last season was very unlucky for them. They totally dominated Real Madrid and should have already been 2 or 3 goals in front before the big comeback of Real happened in the over time of the game. In the end you also need luck to win the CL trophy.
I saw Manchester City as favourite last season for the Champions league,but they threw their golden chance to Real Madrid who grabbed the chance with open hands.Mancity play a very good football,but if care is not taking,it will be hard for Pep Guardiola to win the champions league because it seems when he is faced with big teams,his team is always tensed,and they are prone to making costly mistakes which will eventually lead to their loss.Real Madrid won them in the champions league final last season because they have the experience,and were determined to win it by all cost,so they were very careful to make any silly mistake that will make them loose.The people I predict for this season's champions league is either PSG or Barcelona.
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September 09, 2022, 07:35:59 PM
 I know it is going to be a thug of war on the match day as both Barcelona and Bayern are very good.Lewandoski will be marked properly because Bayern knows his qualities that he is a dangerous goal machine. This match will be fun if you don't support any club. Its a big match amongst the qualifying round, I will just relax to watch good football so that I don't get upset if any of the club win. Football is unpredictable.
Indeed, there is no need for anger when watching football because it is a sporting event that can be an important entertainment for everyone even though there are many people who bet on football matches being played by very prestigious clubs like Barcelona and Bayern Munich. Losing and winning is something that will happen in every game other than ending in a draw. But for Barcelona and Bayern Munich, it is clear that what is more to see and look forward to is a fierce match when each of them begins to show his abilities.
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Yes, Klopp is still safe at Liverpool because he is a coach who has the respect of the fans of his team and club. Klopp needs a lot of support to improve Liverpool's current form and morale, but that will soon be different when they start the competition again next week. Chelsea were impatient with Tuchel, they did not learn from Arsenal who kept Arteta despite Arsneal's poor performance.

Now Klopp's task is certainly difficult considering Liverpool do not have good players to navigate this tight competition. They lost a few players through injury, and that has cost them some strength against big teams like Manchester United and Napoli.
Liverpool is at a crossroads right now, with the level of poor results that the club have hard this season both in the premiere league and champion league Liverpool needs a lot of cooperation between both players and coaches as that is the only way to improve the present condition of the club,  having to fill the gap mane left behind that is effecting the club Liverpool spent a huge amount of. money is buying players in the last transfer window so I don't see any reason why the club is still underperforming at this moment.

And on the issue of Chelsea the sack of the coach was an unexpected action from the club management and this time was bad timing for such an action and this will cause a drawback to the club's success this season.

So both Chelsea and Liverpool will be facing a tough time this season and in the next coming weeks a lot will change but in which direction that change will be we can't tell for now only time and clubs' efforts will tell.
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September 09, 2022, 06:12:07 PM
I don't think that Klopp will suffer the same fate as Tuchel, but even if it happens it is of course a loss for Liverpool because it is difficult to find a coach as good as Klopp at the moment, Liverpool deteriorating performance does not seem to be due to Klopp strategy error but none other than because of his performance their players are indeed deteriorating, losing Mane, I think is one of the reasons for Liverpool current bad performance and Nunez has not been able to have an effect on Liverpool game, yesterday defeat against Napoli was quite painful but if we look at Liverpool defenders they performed quite badly in the match.
Yes, Klopp is still safe at Liverpool because he is a coach who has the respect of the fans of his team and club. Klopp needs a lot of support to improve Liverpool's current form and morale, but that will soon be different when they start the competition again next week. Chelsea were impatient with Tuchel, they did not learn from Arsenal who kept Arteta despite Arsneal's poor performance.

Now Klopp's task is certainly difficult considering Liverpool do not have good players to navigate this tight competition. They lost a few players through injury, and that has cost them some strength against big teams like Manchester United and Napoli.
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Manchester City were favorites for the Champions League title in the last two seasons. Their performances were quite stable and their squad was quite strong. Yet they are hopeful. Manchester City's fortunes have always been on the Champions League platform. Manchester City has a strong squad this season as well. And they are in very good form. Even then we cannot guarantee that Manchester City will do well in the Champions League. But hopefully, we will see Manchester City in the final this season.

The problem with the Champions League is that just because you have the strongest team and are showing the strongest performances over the whole season does not automatically mean that you are also winning the trophy. As you already said Manchester City was the big favorite to win the Champions League in the last two years already but they just could not get the job done. Especially last season was very unlucky for them. They totally dominated Real Madrid and should have already been 2 or 3 goals in front before the big comeback of Real happened in the over time of the game. In the end you also need luck to win the CL trophy.
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September 09, 2022, 06:02:07 PM
The best match I will be looking forward to for the second match of the group stage this week is the Bayern Munich vs Barcelona match. For me this is the most awaited match of the week because I am sure we will see interesting match from both teams. I am curious about Lewandowski who will soon return to the headquarters of his former team where he is currently part of another team.

Lewandowski proved to be doing his best for Barcelona by scoring a hattrick against Plzen, but I'll also be waiting to see if he can beat his former team this week. Obviously this will be very interesting to look forward to.

Bayern Munich are quite highly favoured for the win in Allianz Arena. It is going to be really interesting to watch Lewandowski against his old team here. Bayern Munich still seem very solid after losing him. They don't have big problems with scoring multiple goals in a match. However Lewandowski has changed things for Barcelona a lot. They are much more productive after making this signing. I just wonder how ambitious he will be against his old team. If he maintains his performance then Barcelona might have a chance for at least one point here.

As for a betting choice I'd rather continuing with both teams to score. It is safer than trusting any side here.

I have a hard time to call out a favorite at any point in time. Winning the Champions League always involves some luck. When the game ends with one goal advantage for one team, it is still a close call. There have been so many finals and when Bayern beat PSG some years ago, wasn't it close? Oh yes it was. It is not like PSG didn't have a chance. Everything has to work out in order for a team to win the title. I do agree that Bayern has something other teams don't. But what about Manchester City?
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