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Quote from: alpamar99 on September 11, 2022, 05:27:28 PM

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I think there will be a lot waiting for the Munich VS Barcelona match. They have competed 11 times with 8 wins belonging to Munich. In the last 3 meetings Barcelona has always lost more than 2 goals. Even I still remember the 2020/2021 season Barcelona lost 8-2.
Maybe this season is a little different, I don't think there won't be many goals going on. The match will be evenly matched, because their player statistics are quite evenly matched. What's interesting is Lewandowski, he is going to reunite with friends. In addition, in the last match of the Spanish League, Xavi has also prepared the players by resting several main players against Cadiz.

We can't consider the previous result to predict the result of the upcoming match Bayern Munich vs Barcelona. There is a big difference between the previous season and the current season for both clubs. However, because Lewandowski moved to Barcelona, I assume Barcelona will have a higher chance to win the match. Lewandowski is always a player that can make a difference during the match. Lewandowski always played in good form lately and Barcelona already improved their performance as a whole, we can conclude that Barcelona already returns to its best. While Bayern Munich performance seems not really impressive lately, they only got a draw in some matches. So, Barcelona has a higher chance to win.

The problem in this case is sometimes when playing for a club for a long time it is clear they know their respective strengths and weaknesses so Lewandowski can be a trump card for Barcelona or maybe this could be Bayern's opportunity to kill Lewandowski's movement in this match.
Both Lewandowski and Byern clearly know what each other's strengths and weaknesses are, so this is still difficult to predict.

Well that's right, between Lewandowski and Bayern holding their respective trump cards, although Bayern and Barcelona is currently also focused on this event. Exactly, I also agree it is very difficult to predict who will get full points. Bayern and Barcelona are both strong for now, although I was disappointed club Bayern performance has decrease in their league, but I believe Nagelsmann is still able to serve Xavi strategy. This match will be held at the Allianz Arena, Lewandowski will certainly be very capable of controlling the field but not necessarily with teammates.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on September 11, 2022, 05:27:28 PM

Quote from: lalabotax on September 11, 2022, 04:59:40 PM

Quote from: AakZaki on September 11, 2022, 03:40:57 PM

I think there will be a lot waiting for the Munich VS Barcelona match. They have competed 11 times with 8 wins belonging to Munich. In the last 3 meetings Barcelona has always lost more than 2 goals. Even I still remember the 2020/2021 season Barcelona lost 8-2.
Maybe this season is a little different, I don't think there won't be many goals going on. The match will be evenly matched, because their player statistics are quite evenly matched. What's interesting is Lewandowski, he is going to reunite with friends. In addition, in the last match of the Spanish League, Xavi has also prepared the players by resting several main players against Cadiz.

We can't consider the previous result to predict the result of the upcoming match Bayern Munich vs Barcelona. There is a big difference between the previous season and the current season for both clubs. However, because Lewandowski moved to Barcelona, I assume Barcelona will have a higher chance to win the match. Lewandowski is always a player that can make a difference during the match. Lewandowski always played in good form lately and Barcelona already improved their performance as a whole, we can conclude that Barcelona already returns to its best. While Bayern Munich performance seems not really impressive lately, they only got a draw in some matches. So, Barcelona has a higher chance to win.

The problem in this case is sometimes when playing for a club for a long time it is clear they know their respective strengths and weaknesses so Lewandowski can be a trump card for Barcelona or maybe this could be Bayern's opportunity to kill Lewandowski's movement in this match.
Both Lewandowski and Byern clearly know what each other's strengths and weaknesses are, so this is still difficult to predict.

Barcelona are lucky to have Lewandowski, because Lewandowski has been playing for Bayern for quite a long time, so he can give Xavi some
advice on Bayern's weaknesses. After all, Lewandowski's productivity did not decrease when he moved to Barcelona, he is still a reliable goal machine.
So Bayern really need to worry when facing Barcelona, after all if Bayern can stop Lewandowski, because Bayern also understands the way
Lewandowski plays. But Xavi is not too worried, because Barcelona still have a lot of good players who can score goals, if until Lewandowski has
difficulty scoring goals against Bayern.

There are still Ansu Fati and Dembele who are quite productive this season, and also still have Depay in reserve. Because Barcelona's squad
depth is indeed better than Bayern's, so Barcelona's chances of winning the game are much greater than Bayern's. But Bayern is one of
the strongest teams in Europe, Barcelona should be careful when facing Bayern. Although Barcelona have a better squad and performance,
but because Bayern are not a weak team, and also Bayern will play at home. I agree it makes it quite difficult to predict matches.

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Quote from: lalabotax on September 11, 2022, 04:59:40 PM

Quote from: AakZaki on September 11, 2022, 03:40:57 PM

I think there will be a lot waiting for the Munich VS Barcelona match. They have competed 11 times with 8 wins belonging to Munich. In the last 3 meetings Barcelona has always lost more than 2 goals. Even I still remember the 2020/2021 season Barcelona lost 8-2.
Maybe this season is a little different, I don't think there won't be many goals going on. The match will be evenly matched, because their player statistics are quite evenly matched. What's interesting is Lewandowski, he is going to reunite with friends. In addition, in the last match of the Spanish League, Xavi has also prepared the players by resting several main players against Cadiz.

We can't consider the previous result to predict the result of the upcoming match Bayern Munich vs Barcelona. There is a big difference between the previous season and the current season for both clubs. However, because Lewandowski moved to Barcelona, I assume Barcelona will have a higher chance to win the match. Lewandowski is always a player that can make a difference during the match. Lewandowski always played in good form lately and Barcelona already improved their performance as a whole, we can conclude that Barcelona already returns to its best. While Bayern Munich performance seems not really impressive lately, they only got a draw in some matches. So, Barcelona has a higher chance to win.

The problem in this case is sometimes when playing for a club for a long time it is clear they know their respective strengths and weaknesses so Lewandowski can be a trump card for Barcelona or maybe this could be Bayern's opportunity to kill Lewandowski's movement in this match.
Both Lewandowski and Byern clearly know what each other's strengths and weaknesses are, so this is still difficult to predict.

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Quote from: AakZaki on September 11, 2022, 03:40:57 PM

I think there will be a lot waiting for the Munich VS Barcelona match. They have competed 11 times with 8 wins belonging to Munich. In the last 3 meetings Barcelona has always lost more than 2 goals. Even I still remember the 2020/2021 season Barcelona lost 8-2.
Maybe this season is a little different, I don't think there won't be many goals going on. The match will be evenly matched, because their player statistics are quite evenly matched. What's interesting is Lewandowski, he is going to reunite with friends. In addition, in the last match of the Spanish League, Xavi has also prepared the players by resting several main players against Cadiz.

We can't consider the previous result to predict the result of the upcoming match Bayern Munich vs Barcelona. There is a big difference between the previous season and the current season for both clubs. However, because Lewandowski moved to Barcelona, I assume Barcelona will have a higher chance to win the match. Lewandowski is always a player that can make a difference during the match. Lewandowski always played in good form lately and Barcelona already improved their performance as a whole, we can conclude that Barcelona already returns to its best. While Bayern Munich performance seems not really impressive lately, they only got a draw in some matches. So, Barcelona has a higher chance to win.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on September 11, 2022, 06:25:30 AM

Graham Potter is getting close to his first match with Chelsea here against Salzburg. Playing this match in Stamford Bridge is a good advantage for them. Fans will be expecting an absolute win from Chelsea. Graham Potter is managing a team in the Champions League for the first time. So people are wondering how successful he will be. Honestly I think Chelsea will end this bad form by a solid win here. I wish Aubameyang was able to play in this match but he is still suffering a head injury. He will be able to return on October 3 as it seems. However this shouldn't be an obstacle for them to defeat Salzburg. Havertz would be Potter's choice there.

This will be quite interesting to see because I want to see if the Potters will overhaul their squad in the core line-up or stay the same as the Tuchel Era.
In this case Salzburg always provide a pretty good defensive performance, especially when facing bigger opponents so it will be very interesting how they will hold Chelsea in this match even though it is certain that Chelsea are the favorite in this match.

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At least now their strength can be considered as equal but if you look at H2H now it is clear that Bayern are far superior to Barcelona.
There are good things for Barcelona this season because one of the actors of their massacre namely Lewandowski is now at Barcelona so this is something good for them although it is still a little difficult to win if it is only Lewandowski alone.

I would bet for barcelona to win this tuesday champions league matchday , despite bayern are indeed favorited by the bookies and statistically ... barcelona should have struggling but its just my feeling that barcelona going to beat bayern munich really hard this time for 3-1 or so.

The score was pretty bold there, but if that's your choice then go ahead because I still feel in this case regardless of how Barcelona are performing at the moment they will find it very difficult to face Bayern.
But Barcelona's chance is still there because Xavi's role is needed now and how can he maximize this well but I think the chances of a draw are much bigger and as for victory, of course Bayern will stand at the end.

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Quote from: AakZaki on September 11, 2022, 03:40:57 PM

I think there will be a lot waiting for the Munich VS Barcelona match. They have competed 11 times with 8 wins belonging to Munich. In the last 3 meetings Barcelona has always lost more than 2 goals. Even I still remember the 2020/2021 season Barcelona lost 8-2.
Maybe this season is a little different, I don't think there won't be many goals going on. The match will be evenly matched, because their player statistics are quite evenly matched. What's interesting is Lewandowski, he is going to reunite with friends. In addition, in the last match of the Spanish League, Xavi has also prepared the players by resting several main players against Cadiz.

In this case, it is clear that there are a lot of eyes that will be on this match because indeed this could be revenge for Barcelona or it still gives bad memories of Bayern for them because if you look at H2H it is clear that Bayern are far ahead.
This match both teams will play at full strength and Barcelona against Cadiz is already happening with a striking score for Barcelona even with some players rotated so Barcelona seems confident against Bayern.

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We all shall watch Barcelona dismantle Bayern Munich on Tuesday night
Bayern Munich could not win thier game in Bundesliga well and you expect them to do against Barca
Barcelona played beautifully well, they just have to repeat same in the next few days against Bayern

I also look forward to Barcelona in this meeting even though the match is staged at the Allianz Arena, home to Munich.

I see Barcelona's game has changed a lot this season compared to last season, it seems Xavi this season is very confident in his young squad. Xavi has shaped them more mature in the game in carrying out the coach's strategy very well.

So far it's clear from the few games Barca have played that Xavi has only given three of their 30-year-old senior players to mix with other younger players and the result has been an impressive game that promises to win.

I am not sure "dismantle" would be the case. I mean Bayern is a bit more physically gifted team and they play like a machine, whereas Barcelona is a team of mind and they play with a good tactic and technique at the same time. So, it is going to be battle of two different mindsets and I am not sure if any team will dismantle the other.

So all in all, we should be focusing a bit towards how we could end up with a situation where it is close to a tied game, maybe one will win but the difference will not be big neither in score nor while watching the game neither.

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I think there will be a lot waiting for the Munich VS Barcelona match. They have competed 11 times with 8 wins belonging to Munich. In the last 3 meetings Barcelona has always lost more than 2 goals. Even I still remember the 2020/2021 season Barcelona lost 8-2.
Maybe this season is a little different, I don't think there won't be many goals going on. The match will be evenly matched, because their player statistics are quite evenly matched. What's interesting is Lewandowski, he is going to reunite with friends. In addition, in the last match of the Spanish League, Xavi has also prepared the players by resting several main players against Cadiz.

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Can Bayern Munich match its Champions League performance against Barcelona this year? Bayern defeated Barcelona both at home and away last season champion league, and now both teams have a champions league record due to Bayern's victory over Inter Milan while the team was on the away, which made the team incredible. Barcelona also won its most recent game with a 5-1 victory.
I predict that the upcoming group stage meeting between these two clubs will be a difficult one. Barcelona and Bayern both have excellent players; we are going to see the manager who can assemble the best squad between Xavi and Nagelsmann.

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But do I think Bayern Munich can beat Barcelona?

I don't know, Bayern Munich is a strong team and it has been proven season after season. But for this season I think Barcelona will not be so easily defeated by Bayern Munich considering the quality of Barcelona at this time is quite reliable. I'd prefer to see their two meetings this season in the group stages end in draws, but I have a bit of faith that Barcelona can win that match too.

It is the most interesting match in my opinion to look forward to, I really don't want to miss that match later.

At least now their strength can be considered as equal but if you look at H2H now it is clear that Bayern are far superior to Barcelona.
There are good things for Barcelona this season because one of the actors of their massacre namely Lewandowski is now at Barcelona so this is something good for them although it is still a little difficult to win if it is only Lewandowski alone.

I would bet for barcelona to win this tuesday champions league matchday , despite bayern are indeed favorited by the bookies and statistically ... barcelona should have struggling but its just my feeling that barcelona going to beat bayern munich really hard this time for 3-1 or so.

Moreover ... with the world cup in 2023 .. all the club will have to play extra matchday and things could be really unpredictable when players tired & rested.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 11, 2022, 01:45:53 PM

Quote from: Yurkov on September 11, 2022, 01:12:27 PM

But do I think Bayern Munich can beat Barcelona?

I don't know, Bayern Munich is a strong team and it has been proven season after season. But for this season I think Barcelona will not be so easily defeated by Bayern Munich considering the quality of Barcelona at this time is quite reliable. I'd prefer to see their two meetings this season in the group stages end in draws, but I have a bit of faith that Barcelona can win that match too.

It is the most interesting match in my opinion to look forward to, I really don't want to miss that match later.

Barcelona is a good team for now, Xavi has done alot of work in the team, and with limited resources Barcelona was able to sign good players in the just closed transfer window. In the other hand, Bayern Munich has a very strong squad but the strength of their squad is seriously in doubt, especially for playing 3 consecutive draws with clubs that could be considered as average.

This has raised some questions about the strength of Bayern Munchen. I believe that Barcelona will win the match because both teams are good but Barcelona has an edge over Bayern Munich because of Lewandowski effect. Lewandowski is having a good time in Barcelona and there is a rare chance that he will not score in any match.
For Bayern Munich, it I everyone's duty to score and it could create confusion as Mane has been used for striking positions which is not his natural position so many times.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on September 11, 2022, 01:45:53 PM

Quote from: Yurkov on September 11, 2022, 01:12:27 PM

But do I think Bayern Munich can beat Barcelona?

I don't know, Bayern Munich is a strong team and it has been proven season after season. But for this season I think Barcelona will not be so easily defeated by Bayern Munich considering the quality of Barcelona at this time is quite reliable. I'd prefer to see their two meetings this season in the group stages end in draws, but I have a bit of faith that Barcelona can win that match too.

It is the most interesting match in my opinion to look forward to, I really don't want to miss that match later.

At least now their strength can be considered as equal but if you look at H2H now it is clear that Bayern are far superior to Barcelona.
There are good things for Barcelona this season because one of the actors of their massacre namely Lewandowski is now at Barcelona so this is something good for them although it is still a little difficult to win if it is only Lewandowski alone.

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Quote from: Yurkov on September 11, 2022, 01:12:27 PM

But do I think Bayern Munich can beat Barcelona?

I don't know, Bayern Munich is a strong team and it has been proven season after season. But for this season I think Barcelona will not be so easily defeated by Bayern Munich considering the quality of Barcelona at this time is quite reliable. I'd prefer to see their two meetings this season in the group stages end in draws, but I have a bit of faith that Barcelona can win that match too.

It is the most interesting match in my opinion to look forward to, I really don't want to miss that match later.

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Quote from: RILWAN on September 11, 2022, 12:50:57 PM

I don't know why discussions n Liverpool's weaknesses os all over the frum and many think that man leaving Liverpool is the reason why the club is underperforming. But being of a different opinion and I still have faith that Liverpool will bounce back to form nd there will make good use of the present time to improve on the player's teamwork mane replacement has affected Liverpool med field.

So many typos in this and this could only come out of some hurt emotions as a die hard Liverpool fan I suspect. Well, no need to be hurt about it, Liverpool didn't play up to expectation in there game and as they are a team that could easily win Napoli should they choose to be at there best. Although, we can't say the quality of Sadio Mane isn't missing in the team as Nunez whom was supposed to be his perfect replacement haven't done anything for the team thus far but the case is different with S. Mane when we look at his performances in Bayern Munich.

Don't forget that, people placed bets on that game and are hurt by the performance from the team. They were just loosed in there defence line and there offense constituted less threat to the Serie A side.

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I think this will be a very good and uncertain match.
Both teams were very good in the first round of the group, but Bayern had a much stronger opponent, and at the same time showed great quality and dominance.
I think that Bayern found a very good replacement for Lewandowski in Mane, and they dominate again in the Champions League and in the German Championship and I give them a slight advantage in this match.
Barcelona also brought in new players and raised their level of play, and I believe that there is no chance that they will be eliminated in the group stage of the Champions League this season, as they were last season, although they are in a very difficult group of the Champions League.

Bayern is a lot more established club with most of their players, even though they lost Lewandowski, they got Mane instead and he is a great player as well, on top of that they also have players that could in return play very well and been playing together for a very long time as well.

Barcelona on the other hand got new players on all positions and there are only a few players coming back from last year, they do not have the chemistry that Bayern has, and neither way more talented than them neither. I am guessing Bayern will probably just run hard and tire out Barcelona and beat them by 70th or 75th minute, and score easier after that.

I think we both agree that Bayern is currently ahead of Barcelona, and in terms of game organization, experience, team cohesion etc.
Everyone wondered how Bayern would play without Lewandowski, but in fact, you can hardly see any difference in their game, they are still a great team, maybe even a better team compared to last season.
I watched their game against Inter and it was a rarely seen dominance from an away team against Inter in Milan.
Barcelona is slowly raising the level of their game with Xavi, but it will take them some time to reach the level of Bayern.

Most of Bayern's players have long been associated with the team and have a good understanding. Barcelona have brought in a lot of new players this season, and while there are plenty of juniors, it will take some time for them to play their proper game. But do I think Bayern Munich can beat Barcelona?

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Matchday two of the Champions League between Liverpool and Ajax is the most crucial match for Liverpool. In this match the Reds must win in order to maintain hope to qualify for the knockout phase. However, the performances of these two teams are contradictory, previously Liverpool were massacred by Napoli with a fairly landslide score, while Ajax were able to reap full points. Liverpool benefited a little because the Premier League was temporarily closed, of course this moment will be used by Klopp to restore player fitness and develop the right strategy to bring Liverpool back to winning ways.

Ajax are a bit like Napoli in that they are attacking teams, but Ajax attack even more than Napoli in their matches, and this suggests that Ajax will score against Liverpool. Betting against Liverpool at Anfield is very risky, in front of their fans they can show the best game, although I like Ajax more now, if they win it will not be a surprise.

Even if Ajax play as well as Napoli, I'll put Liverpool ahead for me. Ajax are currently performing well but it will take time for them to match Liverpool. Liverpool are capable of returning to form at any moment. Everyone's day may not always go well. But I want to put Liverpool ahead of Ajax.

I don't know why discussions n Liverpool's weaknesses os all over the frum and many think that man leaving Liverpool is the reason why the club is underperforming. But being of a different opinion and I still have faith that Liverpool will bounce back to form nd there will make good use of the present time to improve on the player's teamwork mane replacement has affected Liverpool med field.

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Quote from: D-law on September 11, 2022, 10:01:38 AM

We all shall watch Barcelona dismantle Bayern Munich on Tuesday night
Bayern Munich could not win thier game in Bundesliga well and you expect them to do against Barca
Barcelona played beautifully well, they just have to repeat same in the next few days against Bayern

All eyes of football fans will be on Lewandowski return to the Allianz Arena, but this time Lewandowski is the player Bayern Munich players have to watch out for.
Since joining Barcelona, Lewandowski has scored nine goals in his last five games for Barcelona. Bayern Munich must closely guard his former players so as not to score at the Allianz Arena, because it will make all Bayern Munich fans feel disappointed with goals that were born from Lewandowski.
Barcelona comes to the Allianz Arena with full of confidence, because in the last five matches they managed to win in a row. Barcelona attack line is also very productive, Barcelona always scored more than 2 in every game, Only the match against Rayo ended 0-0. The decline in Bayern Munich performance in the Bundesliga can be used by Barcelona to get a win in the second match in the UCL, Barcelona will try to make Bayern Munich swallow defeat as well as avenge them.

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Quote from: D-law on September 11, 2022, 10:01:38 AM

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I think we both agree that Bayern is currently ahead of Barcelona, and in terms of game organization, experience, team cohesion etc.
Everyone wondered how Bayern would play without Lewandowski, but in fact, you can hardly see any difference in their game, they are still a great team, maybe even a better team compared to last season.
I watched their game against Inter and it was a rarely seen dominance from an away team against Inter in Milan.
Barcelona is slowly raising the level of their game with Xavi, but it will take them some time to reach the level of Bayern.

I don't think I can say that it took long for Barcelona to reach the level of Bayern Munich (what does level really mean in the game of football?). The reason is, that the match has not happened and can not measure how far the difference between the two is and how far behind Barcelona from Bayern Munich is. In football, nobody always wins right? Well, this also applies to Bayern Munich when it comes to dealing with Barcelona.

We all shall watch Barcelona dismantle Bayern Munich on Tuesday night
Bayern Munich could not win thier game in Bundesliga well and you expect them to do against Barca
Barcelona played beautifully well, they just have to repeat same in the next few days against Bayern

I also look forward to Barcelona in this meeting even though the match is staged at the Allianz Arena, home to Munich.

I see Barcelona's game has changed a lot this season compared to last season, it seems Xavi this season is very confident in his young squad. Xavi has shaped them more mature in the game in carrying out the coach's strategy very well.

So far it's clear from the few games Barca have played that Xavi has only given three of their 30-year-old senior players to mix with other younger players and the result has been an impressive game that promises to win.

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Quote from: naira on September 11, 2022, 09:41:02 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on September 11, 2022, 08:49:01 AM

I think we both agree that Bayern is currently ahead of Barcelona, and in terms of game organization, experience, team cohesion etc.
Everyone wondered how Bayern would play without Lewandowski, but in fact, you can hardly see any difference in their game, they are still a great team, maybe even a better team compared to last season.
I watched their game against Inter and it was a rarely seen dominance from an away team against Inter in Milan.
Barcelona is slowly raising the level of their game with Xavi, but it will take them some time to reach the level of Bayern.

I don't think I can say that it took long for Barcelona to reach the level of Bayern Munich (what does level really mean in the game of football?). The reason is, that the match has not happened and can not measure how far the difference between the two is and how far behind Barcelona from Bayern Munich is. In football, nobody always wins right? Well, this also applies to Bayern Munich when it comes to dealing with Barcelona.

We all shall watch Barcelona dismantle Bayern Munich on Tuesday night
Bayern Munich could not win thier game in Bundesliga well and you expect them to do against Barca
Barcelona played beautifully well, they just have to repeat same in the next few days against Bayern

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