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Quote from: Barcode_ on September 07, 2022, 07:06:54 AM

The performance of Liverpool in this season is too unstable at the moment and they will need to play against Napoli away from their home stadium for their first Uefa Champions League game this season, I think it is a terrible timing for Liverpool to be playing against Napoli today and I guess Liverpool will suffer a loss at the final whistle.

One of the most difficult matches today to predict. Bookmakers evaluate the odds of teams as follows:

3.90 - 3.75 - 1.93

1.93 for Liverpool to win looks generous, but 3.9 for Napoli to win at home against crisis Liverpool looks no less interesting. It's very difficult to choose. But I don't want to take Napoli or Liverpool FC 1.29 - too low coefficient. Probably BTTS 1,69 good choice.

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Tuchel has been just sacked.

Not a big deal for Premier League clubs, they can easily pay the cost of 20-30 million for a new coach.

On the one hand, a fairly quick decision for the initial stage of the season, where the results are quite fixable for both the Premier League and the Champions League, on the other hand, the team needs a shake-up. I would take this as a positive signal for the Chelsea fans - the club's management clearly has big ambitions and will fight for Chelsea to achieve great results.

The problem is that at the moment Tuchel has only got a few players that he wants to fill and now that he has to leave it is clear this is a bit bitter in my opinion.
Even though management doesn't seem too patient with Chelsea's current condition, it's quite risky to fire a coach in the midst of a busy schedule because this could backfire for them.

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It seems that Auba's presence in his debut did not go well in this match.
Soon the game will end and the score is still the same as in the first half.
Chelsea's game is too monotonous if I see it until now. In another game Dortmund partyed with 3 goals now and time is in extra time I don't think this is too good for Chelsea and obviously very smooth for Dortmund for the first game.

Denamo Zagreb are trying their possible best to get the three points, I can see they keep strong and they are trying very well defensively, the match is almost over, Chelsea need to tightening up because Champions league is a not a playing ground, as no team is to be underrated in this competition, as we can see Denamo Zagreb are given us a surprising result against Chelsea.

there was one goal disallowed which made it seem like the Chelsea players were frustrated with it.
But indeed in this case Dinamo played very well in maintaining their defense.
Currently Chelsea's condition is exacerbated by the departure of their coach in the midst of a hectic schedule, not to mention that they also have to prepare for the EPL and the second match in the Champions League against Salzburg which in this case they also have a pretty good defense.

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Today will be no less interesting matches than yesterday, even more. First of all I am interested in how the new Napoli striker Khvicha Kvaratskhelia will perform in the game against not yet strong Liverpool. Probably this match will be the most interesting for me. Also I expect a beautiful game between Ajax and Glasgow Rangers. It will be interesting to see how Glasgow will play against a stronger opponent.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 07, 2022, 05:27:45 AM

Tuchel has been just sacked.

Not a big deal for Premier League clubs, they can easily pay the cost of 20-30 million for a new coach.

It's quite a shocking news because it's still early days and he already has to leave Chelsea.
Is it true that the higher-ups are too frustrated with Tuchel's current leadership, I think this is too hasty a decision for that.
100 games he's run and he now has to go. I am speechless with their current condition.

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Don't you know what Sevilla's performance is like in La Liga?
Should you know their current form you wouldn't be surprised by this because City's victory was real in this match and there shouldn't be any major hindrances.
It would have surprised me if Sevilla managed to hold on to City but that didn't happen and it means it's still the same as predicted right.

Yeah, I saw it. That's exactly the reason I expected Sevilla to try even harder.
A new competition, a fresh start for a team that's really not as bad as the start of the season shows.

Anyway - City is impossible to play against if you're not at your best. And Sevilla was far from their best again yesterday.

It's hard to expect Sevilla to play better than they are in their current form.
Sevilla lost some of their key players especially in defense which has made them play poorly this season. So I don't think we can expect much with Sevilla even with their current condition I'm even quite pessimistic that they can beat Copenhagen for the 3rd place in the group standings.

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It was a tough game for Chelsea, definitely looks like the team is totally disarranged, I really don't understand, if the players don't want to play for the coach anymore, I just think a lot is wrong with the team, the communication between the players in the pitch is totally poor, the midfield is totally down, no central passer of the ball to the attack. Their inability to create enough chances and overwhelm their opponents cost them the game eventually.

I was suprise that Chelsea lost their match yesterday, I don't even know who to blame maybe the coach or the player, Dinamo Zagreb is a small team for Chelsea to win, they even performed poorly but am suprise they won, Chelsea had lot's of opportunities but I don't know why they couldn't score, even Aubameyang didn't perform to my expectation yesterday, he couldn't even convert any of his opptunity to goal, I think Thomas Tuchel should work on his team, if not with the current performance of Chelsea am sure Chelsea won't really go far.

So Thomas Tuchel all but far away from Chelsea now, next up is to bring in new set of midfielder's in the next transfer window market. That will be a good start for Chelsea.
Although, I expect horrible results within the next few weeks ahead for Chelsea, they have great defending player's they just need back that energy and drive to play although they have always been that way without the help of tactics. I do love the way the players take them selves to sacrifice for the club.

During the week game's against Fulham, I still expect Fulham to get all three points, Plan B would be to hold them down to both sides ending tied.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 07, 2022, 05:27:45 AM

Tuchel has been just sacked.

Not a big deal for Premier League clubs, they can easily pay the cost of 20-30 million for a new coach.

surprising news, for real. At this time, I don't expect the club to just fire the head coach. He has contributed much to the team, and this shouldn't be undervalued. In addition to the fact that the season has just begun, he hasn't done much damage to the team this year and every team has its good and bad days. This is more of how Chelsea fires coaches, which has become routine for them. During his tenure as Chelsea's manager, the team did a good job. Tuchel is unfortunate, and I hope he succeeds.

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Chelsea lost for a while. Mislav Orsic scored an important goal as an early capital for Dinamo Zagreb thanks to Bruno Petkovic's pass. Tough job for Tuchel to be able to equalize. It seems Chelsea will finish the half-time match with the score 1-0.

What a poor first half it is! Really disappointed.
Chelsea have the ball possession but dinamo zagreb looking more dangerous than Chelsea. Chelsea is not showing much aggression for winning. Dinamo is very relaxed and taking Chelsea on the counter. Reece James is slow. Hakim Ziyech may be better in the 2nd half to shoot from long ranges since the opponent are sitting deep in defense.

Tuchel's second half made a change of strategy. Tuchel pulled off Captain Cesar Azpilicueta and brought on Hakim Ziyech. Automatically R. James switches down position.
Initially the changes made by Tuchel went well, but the Chelsea players could not execute the strategy well.
T. Tuchel must find the right formula for Chelsea in the next game.

Tuchel was fired after yesterday catastrophic performance against a team who plays and dominates a much but much weaker league than the Premier League where Chelsea is playing.It is not about the result of the game that ended 1-0 but is because of a really poor poor performance from Chelsea in yesterday game.There won't be anymore chances for Tuchel but things of course do not look well for Chelsea both here in the Champions and both in Premier League where they are having big problems when playing outside Stamford Bridge.

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The performance of Liverpool in this season is too unstable at the moment and they will need to play against Napoli away from their home stadium for their first Uefa Champions League game this season, I think it is a terrible timing for Liverpool to be playing against Napoli today and I guess Liverpool will suffer a loss at the final whistle.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 07, 2022, 05:27:45 AM

Tuchel has been just sacked.

Will Chelsea win another Champions League by sacking a current coach and hire a new one? It happened in the past so will it repeat in this season?

Quote from: Bitinity on September 07, 2022, 05:10:47 AM

Agreed, Juventus were not that bad and they could play well as an away team. The 2 goals by Mbappe were amazing, I dont even think that other players would be able to do the same thing.

Juventus did not play too bad and they had some opportunities to equalize the match. Mbappe was selfish again and it is lucky for him when PSG managed to secure 3 points. In the match, both Neymar and Mbappe missed some great chances to finalize the win for PSG then they had to play last 30 minutes with fear of losing 3 points.

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Mbappe is a fast player while Juventus defenders are mostly slow players, the 2 goals scored because with so quick set up while Juventus defenders could not anticipate it quickly.

He was fast that is shown in two goals he scored as well as other situations. However, being selfish is not good because sometimes his club will be sacrificed by opponent. Missing an opportunity to beat the opponent's mentality down and finish the match sometimes is very terrible.

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Chelsea lost for a while. Mislav Orsic scored an important goal as an early capital for Dinamo Zagreb thanks to Bruno Petkovic's pass. Tough job for Tuchel to be able to equalize. It seems Chelsea will finish the half-time match with the score 1-0.

What a poor first half it is! Really disappointed.
Chelsea have the ball possession but dinamo zagreb looking more dangerous than Chelsea. Chelsea is not showing much aggression for winning. Dinamo is very relaxed and taking Chelsea on the counter. Reece James is slow. Hakim Ziyech may be better in the 2nd half to shoot from long ranges since the opponent are sitting deep in defense.

Tuchel's second half made a change of strategy. Tuchel pulled off Captain Cesar Azpilicueta and brought on Hakim Ziyech. Automatically R. James switches down position.
Initially the changes made by Tuchel went well, but the Chelsea players could not execute the strategy well.
T. Tuchel must find the right formula for Chelsea in the next game.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 07, 2022, 05:27:45 AM

Tuchel has been just sacked.

Not a big deal for Premier League clubs, they can easily pay the cost of 20-30 million for a new coach.

On the one hand, a fairly quick decision for the initial stage of the season, where the results are quite fixable for both the Premier League and the Champions League, on the other hand, the team needs a shake-up. I would take this as a positive signal for the Chelsea fans - the club's management clearly has big ambitions and will fight for Chelsea to achieve great results.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 07, 2022, 05:27:45 AM

Tuchel has been just sacked.

Not a big deal for Premier League clubs, they can easily pay the cost of 20-30 million for a new coach.

I don't care about money because of course they have a lot of money, but is this true news? I haven't checked further, but it's a shame if Chelsea make such a quick decision. Tuchel came suddenly after Chelsea sacked Lampard and now Tuchel was sacked suddenly too, I hope this is not a decision that makes a blunder for Chelsea because it will be difficult to build a team quickly especially because Chelsea's schedule is quite busy. I wonder who will replace Tuchel because I don't see the right coach to replace Tuchel, or if it could be Mauricio Pochettino.

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Quote from: ibuddy122505 on September 07, 2022, 04:54:57 AM

I still cannot accept the Dinamo (1-0) Chelsea result. Dinamo Zagreb gave Chelsea a great performance in their 1-0 Champions League win over Chelsea.

Bookmakers made big money last night because people bet on a club because of its name, and they don't take into account some much more important things. Chelsea was the favorite only on paper, and on the field it turned out that they were not equal to any (for them) small club that most of the players probably had no idea existed. Three years ago, Dinamo ZG also defeated Atalanta in the first round, and even then it was a surprise.

I cannot accept that the result is only 1-0, because Dinamo had another excellent chance and the victory should have been even more convincing.

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Tuchel has been just sacked.

Not a big deal for Premier League clubs, they can easily pay the cost of 20-30 million for a new coach.

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I didn't expect this poor performance from Chelsea in this night game let alone loosing to ordinary Dinamo Zegrab, I'm sensing that Thomas Tuchel is still doing some experiment with this team and precisely the new players and too his looking for a way to properly combine the new guys with the old guys in order to have a suitable first 11 eleven team. Which in this process, I think at the moment he's becoming a little bit kind of confused with the players to use. He should step up his games and start living up to expectations, because the earlier the better as more and more games plus different compitions are on its way.

Chelsea this season is far from the standard of play like last season, usually chelsea has started the season quite well but at this time it is clearly not what the fans expect, the bad results that be obtained in the league are now starting to spread to the champions league and I think it is the chelsea squad this season may not go far, chelsea poor performance was the reason for their defeat and it can be said that if the current chelsea defense is no longer as strong as it used to be, I don't think if Tuchel is still looking for the right formation because the season has started.

If Chelsea continue with this poor performance in this season, I don't think they will go far in this season compared to last season that made them to performed well through out the tournament despite they didn't achieve the title from the season. Chelsea are really lacking in the area of defense, which is not helping their midfielders and strikers to work well to achieve goals on time in any competition. If Chelsea coach can work on their defense fast by imparting them new tactics they can use to make their defense more stronger in their remaining matches, I think Chelsea can still do well in this tournament.

The matches Chelsea has played so far since the beginning of this season have never been convincing. The result so far: 1-0, 2-2, 2-1, 2-1, and they haven't played against the big teams in Premiership and Europe. Chelsea's performance so far is even below Europa's spot. With this kind of performance, Chelsea looks bound for something terrible if something is not done fast.

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PSG had a really solid game against Juventus and won by 2-1.

The final score shouldn't mislead anyone. Because PSG were mostly in control of the game. The goal they conceded was a result of Donnarumma's individual mistake. But he made up for his mistake later by a really important save. By the way it seems like Neymar and Mbappe have started to get along with each other. Because in the first goal, Neymar made a really classy assist to him and Mbappe went to him right after scoring the goal to celebrate it together. This is a good sign for the team because they will need this cooperation throughout the season. This is the only way they can win the Champions League title this season.

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Now that Madrid have entered the last minute, 3 goals seemed enough for them in this match.
Overall this was something easy for them but something was interesting in this match because after a long time Hazard was finally able to score again because for official matches I haven't seen him score in a long time.

Madrid winning didn't come as a surprising thing to me because the team is in good shape having won in all their matches since the beginning of the new season in Laliga. Eden Hazard seems to be back in good form and it was cool to see him find the back of the net in a champions league game, not just the goal but he also assisted Luka Modric in scoring the second goal so he should be the man of the match so that he will be motivated and his confidence will fully be restored, good win for the Ancelotti men.

Vini's first goal was very similar to his UCL winner against Liverpool with Modric and Carvajal pressing high then Valverde running down the right flank to set up a fine assist for Vini. This is something these players can and will do, until people find out that beating a high-pressure team is not the same as getting lucky or getting help from the referee.
Look at Hazard's smile, this is the performance he commands the most to boost his confidence. Hopefully things will get better from now on for him.

both are better, they are better and the best moment. Vinicius' goal with the help of Fede looked like the UCL final goal was true, Modric goal was a masterpiece and the most shocking thing. A dangerous goal and the game took me by surprise. And also the champion's first win, let's go again

Real Madrid started defending their Champions League crown with a 3-0 win over Celtic in their Group F opener.

Vinicius Junior broke the deadlock before Luka Modric added a second for Los Blancos. Eden Hazard sealed the three points with a close-range effort to seal a fine Real Madrid display and record victory despite losing Karim Benzema to a knee injury.

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Quote from: ibuddy122505 on September 07, 2022, 04:54:57 AM

I still cannot accept the Dinamo (1-0) Chelsea result. Dinamo Zagreb gave Chelsea a great performance in their 1-0 Champions League win over Chelsea. There is no longer anything special about Chelsea. Players' commitment and Tuchel's tactics must be scrutinized. With his myopic mind set, he is being carried by the team. The performance of this team is unacceptable when compared to its pedigree.

Not just about their pedegree, but also the money they spent in the just concluded transfer market, i am pretty sure the Chelsea owners will absolutely be seething right now, they can't spend the kind of money they spent in the last few weeks, to lose some really cheap games in the EPL, and now in the CL, the performance is unacceptable, and tbh if it was still Roman Abramovich in charge, i am pretty sure Tuchel would have been sitting on a really hot seat right now.

Having said that, the longer their poor run of form continues, the more pressure the players are on, and at that moment every little thing that goes against them seems more like it is the end of the world, i think they play Fulham at the weekend in the EPL, if they fail to win that game, then they would really be in for a pretty bad season.

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