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Do you also think they can win back-to-back title here?

They're more favorites to become UCL champions this season, they have a smaller chance than Bayern Munich (@3.6), Real Madrid (@4.65) and Arsenal (@5.6). So, it's possible that they will become champions and lift the UCL trophy once again. However, IMO the strong candidates who will get the UCL this season are Bayern Munich, Real Madrid or Barcelona.

I quite agree with Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, but for Barcelona, I don't know, I think they will have very difficult times when they reach the knockout rounds and my prediction is that the semifinals will be their best round, although of course Barcelona still has a chance of getting to the final and even becoming champions because in a few months In the future, many things could change in the strength map of each team that is the favorite to win, including Barcelona, which continues to get stronger by bringing in several new players whose prices match their finances.

I have the same opinion as @Strongkored, maybe for Real Madrid and Bayern Munich to be candidates to become UCL title holders it is more feasible but for Barcelona they are a little less sure if this team can reach the higher rounds because even though they are very great in the domestic league but to compete in the UCL a little doubtful and I would agree more if the candidate Barcelona would be replaced with Man City even though it is not too different but for me Man City is little better than Barcelona and in terms of depth performance it is little superior to Man City so the more worthy candidate for me is Real Madrid , Bayern Munich and Man City.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 29, 2023, 05:00:56 PM

Do you also think they can win back-to-back title here?

They're more favorites to become UCL champions this season, they have a smaller chance than Bayern Munich (@3.6), Real Madrid (@4.65) and Arsenal (@5.6). So, it's possible that they will become champions and lift the UCL trophy once again. However, IMO the strong candidates who will get the UCL this season are Bayern Munich, Real Madrid or Barcelona.

I quite agree with Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, but for Barcelona, I don't know, I think they will have very difficult times when they reach the knockout rounds and my prediction is that the semifinals will be their best round, although of course Barcelona still has a chance of getting to the final and even becoming champions because in a few months In the future, many things could change in the strength map of each team that is the favorite to win, including Barcelona, which continues to get stronger by bringing in several new players whose prices match their finances.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 29, 2023, 05:00:56 PM

Do you also think they can win back-to-back title here?

They're more favorites to become UCL champions this season, they have a smaller chance than Bayern Munich (@3.6), Real Madrid (@4.65) and Arsenal (@5.6). So, it's possible that they will become champions and lift the UCL trophy once again. However, IMO the strong candidates who will get the UCL this season are Bayern Munich, Real Madrid or Barcelona.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 29, 2023, 05:00:56 PM

Do you also think they can win back-to-back title here?

I do and why not? city is still showing stable performance in all the competitions. It's still leading EPL even though it was failed in the EFL cup due to the guilty by the referee. Eveyrthing is still going as planned by pep guardiola.
Manchester city just need to make sure it will be able to be stronger. The new players are still the major problem right now and having KDB injured has been also decreasing the power of manchester city. We can expect KDB to recover when city was going to the quarter final and this will be so helpful for the club. The mentality of club is yet being tested caused by city was still in a group stage against some garbage teams. The competitos are coming with so many improvements.
The chance owned by city to back-to-back champion is quite small even though it may still be able to dominate the teams in UCL. I hope KDB will be fully recovered as soon as possible.

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Bayern Munich are dealing with so many injured players at the same time. But they are still able to stay really strong. In only a few days they are going to play against Copenhagen away. While they are in such a great form I don't expect anything different than an assuring win. Nothing changes for them whether they are home or away side.

I expect a bigger win this time. Manchester United resisted them really well. But there is no way we are seeing the same scenario from Copenhagen. They aren't a serious threat to Bayern Munich. They wouldn't have even been able to score 2 goals against Galatasaray if Galatasaray had better defending.

Yeah especially in defense there are some important names missing such as de Ligt and Kim Min-jae. Kim Min-jae might have recovered though because I don't see any injury information anymore according to my source. But even if they have some weaknesses in defense against Copenhagen I wouldn't also expect this to create much problem for them.

Copenhagen are the weakest team in the group right now. I know how they got ahead 2-0 first against Galatasaray away. However their general performance wasn't that good and it was due to Galatasaray's wasting many chances on one hand as well. I would just expect a pure destruction by Bayern Munich against Copenhagen. Grin

Copenhagen is not a team to cause Bayern Munich to in anyway want to be scared or be troubled as they can't be the reason Bayern Munich would crash out of the champions league, it's true Bayern Munich is suffering too many injuries at this time with their players but Copenhagen isn't a team Bayern can't face coupled with the current form Bayern posse's.

Copenhagen isn't a strong team neither are they too weak but then I don't really see them make it pass the group stage as they have stringer a d bigger team to contend with, if they try hard they may be able to secure a draw with others and likely find an opportunity with that to still stay in the champions league, but with Bayern i don't see them having such an opportunity.

Definitely we expect Bayern Munich to get a land slide victory against Copenhagen and I am to a very good extent sure they will not disappoint, if Copenhagen manages to get a goal against Bayern Munich I think I will say they should see it as an achievement because actually I'm expecting Bayern Munich not to give them a chance at all.

Copenhagen is not a strong team compared to a team like Bayern Munich and we know Copenhagen can have a much higher chance than Bayern Munich in the Champions League game, but the important thing about Copenhagen is we can't forget they had a draw against Galatasaray with a 2-2 result which is a good reason to say they can be a dangerous team with good even less shots in the game and less possession.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 29, 2023, 04:23:02 PM

Bayern Munich is not as dangerous as they were three,four seasons ago, they had one of the best team in the champions League, they defeated big teams but they were always eliminated when they least expected it but yet they managed to stay strong as one of the best opponents when it comes to the champions League but when they finally dropped in form and their performance dropped it became very difficult for their then coach to put them back together and so he was sacked and replaced by Thomas Tuchel whom the team believes will bring them back the lost glory.

Bayern Munich getting Harry Kane has added a good motivation to them because Kane is the type of striker that can score from every angle so yes Bayern Munich is one of the teams that should get to the finals if they keep performing well but on winning the champions League this season I think it's still very early to consider that because they aren't out from the group stage yet and I think there teams that will be willing to contend with team in terms of performance even the Manchester city and Real Madrid are teams that will be major challengers once they are in the knockout stage .

The chaos that occurred at Bayern Munich last season was because Bayern Munich fired Nagelsmann at the wrong time. So there was a shift to Tuchel which made their performance not very good, because as soon as Tuchel arrived he immediately focused his on big matches which was an obstacle for him last season. But this season Bayern Munich looks quite strong, they are getting more confident in every match they play in the domestic league.

I am sure that Bayern Munich will have no obstacles for them to become champions of Group A. Because they have beaten the strongest opponents in Group A in the first match. So they will be ready enough to maintain their performance in the match against Copenhagen to achieve victory. Tuchel even has a stronger squad compared to last season so Bayern Munich is still our favorite team to become group champion.

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 29, 2023, 04:47:28 PM

It is indeed not easy for Manchester City to win the UCL title for the second time this season considering that several strong European teams have also improved the depth of their squad to be better. But of course Pep Guardiola will not just stay silent and will definitely find a different strategy so that his game is not easy for other teams to read. Everything can still happen and maybe Manchester City can win their second UCL title even though it is quite difficult. Broadly speaking, of course the strong number 1 candidate will still be Manchester City and it is natural that the bookies will still favor him because the probability level of winning is still very high.

Bookies will still favor Manchester City undoubtedly and I see no reason why they won’t because Manchester City are still showing that dominance till date. Unless maybe across the league matches that their performance will reduce because of the strong competition coming ahead of them by other big teams. But for now, they still remain the best and the most favored to win the champions league. The tactical Pep Guordiola will still want by any means to win this title for the second consecutive time but it won’t be an easy one for him to achieve which I still doubt it happening seeing the squad of the top teams playing in the league now.

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Manchester City are still playing solid as a team. Hence it is totally normal to see them being favoured for the Champions League once again by a big odds gap.

This team effort was the most important thing that helped them win the title last season. You know how ineffective Haaland was as of the semi finals. After seeing this I even doubted their title chance a little because he made a huge score contribution before. But Guardiola didn't have any problems in this situation too. The team made up for this easily and still made it to the title for the first time in their history.

Do you also think they can win back-to-back title here?

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 29, 2023, 04:47:28 PM

It is indeed not easy for Manchester City to win the UCL title for the second time this season considering that several strong European teams have also improved the depth of their squad to be better. But of course Pep Guardiola will not just stay silent and will definitely find a different strategy so that his game is not easy for other teams to read. Everything can still happen and maybe Manchester City can win their second UCL title even though it is quite difficult. Broadly speaking, of course the strong number 1 candidate will still be Manchester City and it is natural that the bookies will still favor him because the probability level of winning is still very high.

If you ask the most of the football fans around the world,the answer will be the Manchester City.Because the game of the Manchester City was unique as compared to the other team in the UCL.The squad of the Manchester City was good now compared to their squad in the last year.Pep Guardiola will be recruited to their team which he played in the past.He is also the Spanish football team manager,this manager had a enough strength to balance the Manchester City to get their second time title in the UCL.So it’s most essential for the players to co operate to their manager words to shine in this league.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on September 29, 2023, 01:04:48 PM

The way for manchester city to get UCL for second time will not as easy as last season. It will be even harder. Its competitors have been doing huge improvements like madrid or munchen.
There will be also many clubs who will able to go to the play off. City needs to have very good mentality like previous season to make sure its team will be able to win any game during the play off.

In fact, bookies are still favoring city as the strongest contender to win the UCL this season caused by there was not big change in the club. The clin is still remain as good last season. Having some new players to strengthen its club is a common thing.

I don't think so.
Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Inter Milan, AC Milan, Napoli, or other top teams aren't as strong as we expect. If you look at their stats in their local competition, their stats look not very well. Only Man City that has a perfect stat in local league, they are undefeated and always wins so far. So, it is very obvious that Man City is still the strongest team to be the champion in UCL again.

I've no doubt about Man City players' mentality. They have the players who have good mentality. They also have a coach that have a great experience in UCL, too.

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Quote from: Iranus on September 29, 2023, 03:50:35 PM

Nagelsmann was sacked by the Bayern Munich management midway through the season. And so naturally Munich's performance was unstable. The new coach also needed time to stabilize the team. And so we don't see a better performance from Munich last season. But this season the scenario is completely different. Tuchel has been able to stabilize the team. He made the team stronger. The arrival of Harry Kane has strengthened Munich's attack. Now Bayern Munich is a very strong team. And their attacking performance is also quite consistent. I think Munich and Manchester City are the most deserving teams for the Champions League title. The performance of all other teams is somewhat unstable.

Without a doubt the performance of Bayern Munich has been good especially at the start of the UCL, however taking into account the final will not be played until June of the next year, the rest of the teams have a lot of time to develop the right chemistry and add new players to their squads which could make a difference during the tournament, so it is kind of soon to give any team the label of the favorite or as being the most deserving of winning the UCL.

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Quote from: shinratensei_ on September 29, 2023, 01:04:48 PM

The way for manchester city to get UCL for second time will not as easy as last season. It will be even harder. Its competitors have been doing huge improvements like madrid or munchen.
There will be also many clubs who will able to go to the play off. City needs to have very good mentality like previous season to make sure its team will be able to win any game during the play off.

In fact, bookies are still favoring city as the strongest contender to win the UCL this season caused by there was not big change in the club. The clin is still remain as good last season. Having some new players to strengthen its club is a common thing.

It is indeed not easy for Manchester City to win the UCL title for the second time this season considering that several strong European teams have also improved the depth of their squad to be better. But of course Pep Guardiola will not just stay silent and will definitely find a different strategy so that his game is not easy for other teams to read. Everything can still happen and maybe Manchester City can win their second UCL title even though it is quite difficult. Broadly speaking, of course the strong number 1 candidate will still be Manchester City and it is natural that the bookies will still favor him because the probability level of winning is still very high.

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Quote from: GiftedMAN on September 29, 2023, 04:23:02 PM

Bayern Munich is not as dangerous as they were three,four seasons ago, they had one of the best team in the champions League, they defeated big teams but they were always eliminated when they least expected it but yet they managed to stay strong as one of the best opponents when it comes to the champions League but when they finally dropped in form and their performance dropped it became very difficult for their then coach to put them back together and so he was sacked and replaced by Thomas Tuchel whom the team believes will bring them back the lost glory.

Yes, it could say that. However, Bayern Munich often troubles its opponents. Especially this season, I think, they will be better than last season. They are usually very strong in midfield, and this time, they are even stronger in the front line because of Kane's presence this season. So their strength cannot be underestimated because it is indeed better than last season. However, the UCL is not an easy league because there are a lot of strong teams there so the matches will always be tough. Many rival clubs are also strong. but at least Bayern Munich have prepared this quite well.

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It's hard to say with certainty that Manchester City will win again this season. Bayern are very strong now and Real Madrid are not as weak as expected after Benzema left. I think that everything will depend on who Manchester City will face in the playoff series. It could happen that they don't make it to the final.

I also think so, because this season Bayern Munich has become stronger than last season so there will be different competition this season, especially for the team that has the best squad. Bayern Munich and Real Madrid can still be a threat to Manchester City this season in the Champions League, but other teams can also provide the best surprises in the Champions League, such as AC Milan and Inter.

Bayern Munich is much more dangerous this season because they managed to get one of the great strikers and I think Tuchel is very happy that he finally has a very even squad depth. On the other hand, Bayern Munich will definitely be targeting a better round than last season and when they meet Manchester City again, they certainly can't wait to take revenge. Real Madrid, Inter and Milan are still strong candidates until the semifinals and especially for Real Madrid they will definitely be more motivated after last season only failing to reach the final..

Bayern Munich is not as dangerous as they were three,four seasons ago, they had one of the best team in the champions League, they defeated big teams but they were always eliminated when they least expected it but yet they managed to stay strong as one of the best opponents when it comes to the champions League but when they finally dropped in form and their performance dropped it became very difficult for their then coach to put them back together and so he was sacked and replaced by Thomas Tuchel whom the team believes will bring them back the lost glory.

Bayern Munich getting Harry Kane has added a good motivation to them because Kane is the type of striker that can score from every angle so yes Bayern Munich is one of the teams that should get to the finals if they keep performing well but on winning the champions League this season I think it's still very early to consider that because they aren't out from the group stage yet and I think there teams that will be willing to contend with team in terms of performance even the Manchester city and Real Madrid are teams that will be major challengers once they are in the knockout stage .

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 29, 2023, 03:30:51 PM

Bayern Munich is much more dangerous this season because they managed to get one of the great strikers and I think Tuchel is very happy that he finally has a very even squad depth. On the other hand, Bayern Munich will definitely be targeting a better round than last season and when they meet Manchester City again, they certainly can't wait to take revenge. Real Madrid, Inter and Milan are still strong candidates until the semifinals and especially for Real Madrid they will definitely be more motivated after last season only failing to reach the final..

Bayern Munich haven't been able to pulled to the expectations of the fans since the board relieved Julian Nagelsmann from his position as headcoach. That was the main mistake they made and it's definitely affecting the club till this present day, bringing in Thomas Tuchel, ofcourse he can never filled in the former coach place but he can attempts to make the Bavaria better, everyone have their particular game pattern for a club. Bayern Munich are favorite to win UEFA Champions League this season, all they would do is put in enough actions in performance inother to qualify and eliminate their opponents.

Nagelsmann was sacked by the Bayern Munich management midway through the season. And so naturally Munich's performance was unstable. The new coach also needed time to stabilize the team. And so we don't see a better performance from Munich last season. But this season the scenario is completely different. Tuchel has been able to stabilize the team. He made the team stronger. The arrival of Harry Kane has strengthened Munich's attack. Now Bayern Munich is a very strong team. And their attacking performance is also quite consistent. I think Munich and Manchester City are the most deserving teams for the Champions League title. The performance of all other teams is somewhat unstable.

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 29, 2023, 03:30:51 PM

Bayern Munich is much more dangerous this season because they managed to get one of the great strikers and I think Tuchel is very happy that he finally has a very even squad depth. On the other hand, Bayern Munich will definitely be targeting a better round than last season and when they meet Manchester City again, they certainly can't wait to take revenge. Real Madrid, Inter and Milan are still strong candidates until the semifinals and especially for Real Madrid they will definitely be more motivated after last season only failing to reach the final..

Bayern Munich haven't been able to pulled to the expectations of the fans since the board relieved Julian Nagelsmann from his position as headcoach. That was the main mistake they made and it's definitely affecting the club till this present day, bringing in Thomas Tuchel, ofcourse he can never filled in the former coach place but he can attempts to make the Bavaria better, everyone have their particular game pattern for a club. Bayern Munich are favorite to win UEFA Champions League this season, all they would do is put in enough actions in performance inother to qualify and eliminate their opponents.

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Bayern Munich are dealing with so many injured players at the same time. But they are still able to stay really strong. In only a few days they are going to play against Copenhagen away. While they are in such a great form I don't expect anything different than an assuring win. Nothing changes for them whether they are home or away side.

I expect a bigger win this time. Manchester United resisted them really well. But there is no way we are seeing the same scenario from Copenhagen. They aren't a serious threat to Bayern Munich. They wouldn't have even been able to score 2 goals against Galatasaray if Galatasaray had better defending.

Yeah especially in defense there are some important names missing such as de Ligt and Kim Min-jae. Kim Min-jae might have recovered though because I don't see any injury information anymore according to my source. But even if they have some weaknesses in defense against Copenhagen I wouldn't also expect this to create much problem for them.

Copenhagen are the weakest team in the group right now. I know how they got ahead 2-0 first against Galatasaray away. However their general performance wasn't that good and it was due to Galatasaray's wasting many chances on one hand as well. I would just expect a pure destruction by Bayern Munich against Copenhagen. Grin

Copenhagen is not a team to cause Bayern Munich to in anyway want to be scared or be troubled as they can't be the reason Bayern Munich would crash out of the champions league, it's true Bayern Munich is suffering too many injuries at this time with their players but Copenhagen isn't a team Bayern can't face coupled with the current form Bayern posse's.

Copenhagen isn't a strong team neither are they too weak but then I don't really see them make it pass the group stage as they have stringer a d bigger team to contend with, if they try hard they may be able to secure a draw with others and likely find an opportunity with that to still stay in the champions league, but with Bayern i don't see them having such an opportunity.

Definitely we expect Bayern Munich to get a land slide victory against Copenhagen and I am to a very good extent sure they will not disappoint, if Copenhagen manages to get a goal against Bayern Munich I think I will say they should see it as an achievement because actually I'm expecting Bayern Munich not to give them a chance at all.

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It's hard to say with certainty that Manchester City will win again this season. Bayern are very strong now and Real Madrid are not as weak as expected after Benzema left. I think that everything will depend on who Manchester City will face in the playoff series. It could happen that they don't make it to the final.

I also think so, because this season Bayern Munich has become stronger than last season so there will be different competition this season, especially for the team that has the best squad. Bayern Munich and Real Madrid can still be a threat to Manchester City this season in the Champions League, but other teams can also provide the best surprises in the Champions League, such as AC Milan and Inter.

Bayern Munich is much more dangerous this season because they managed to get one of the great strikers and I think Tuchel is very happy that he finally has a very even squad depth. On the other hand, Bayern Munich will definitely be targeting a better round than last season and when they meet Manchester City again, they certainly can't wait to take revenge. Real Madrid, Inter and Milan are still strong candidates until the semifinals and especially for Real Madrid they will definitely be more motivated after last season only failing to reach the final..

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Quote from: arimamib on September 28, 2023, 07:34:26 PM

This season Manchester City are still quite strong, they have a pretty perfect squad for this season. Their balance of strength is quite well organized from the front line to the defense line. So it is very natural that Manchester City is quite superior this season. But there are always surprises and it is very likely that Manchester City will have to be able to appear in their best form, whether against a team that has equal strength or another team.

No doubt Man City is still the strongest team in UCL this season. Sure, they have perfect players in each line, especially in attacking line. Man City also performed quite stable in every major competition so far. So, it makes sense if Man City is still the most favorite team to win the UCL title again this season. Although it is not impossible for a surprise, I believe Man City has the biggest chance to be the champion if they don't make a mistake in each match.

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Real Madrid too, they are still considered a fairly strong team this season. Even though Real Madrid doesn't have a quality striker this season, they have Bellingham who they can rely on in their game. Maybe their strongest competitors are Bayern Munich or Psg this season, but we could be presented with a surprise team who is able to show their best qualities.

I don't think Real Madrid is strong enough to win UCL this season. They have a serious problem in defense and attacking line. If you learn their stats against big teams, their defense always becomes the weakest line. The latest match, their got defeated by Atletico Madrid with 3 conceded goals. I can't imagine if they play against Man City, Bayern Munich, or Barcelona. I think they may get more than 3 conceded goals. Moreover, their attackers look unconvincingly. Since they have no strong striker, their productivity in goals is decreasing very significantly this season.

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Quote from: JeffBrad12 on September 29, 2023, 08:52:30 AM

Pep was always buiding everything started from the bottom. I remember when he was coming to the manchester city and he has been putting UCL as the main target by the club and pep was able helping city to get its first UCL trophy after so many years.
It makes me feel that if pep was the key factor why manchester city was able getting tremendous success under him. I can remember that when there were still some players like david silva and friends played for city.
It has become the starter of guardiola's success with manchester city. City is also still possible to get second UCL trophy this season. Pep was changing everything.
Pep's era with manchester city has reminded me with sir alex ferguson once he was still on manchester united. MU was getting very big success with ferguson till everything changed a lot when ferguson was leaving from MU as he retired from being a coach.
I think that city will have the same fate as manchester city once guardiola will be leaving from the club in the future. City is in easy group now. The chance to pass the group stage is very big.

I disagree with this because seeing what happened where when he coached Manchester City, Bayern or Barcelona he always got good things but that's not doing it from the start because when he was promoted to Barcelona in 2008 when he replaced Rikjaard at that time Barcelona was in the best condition and indeed it had entered the golden era period of Barcelona as well as when he was at Bayern because before Pep coached Bayern they were already strong and had even won back to back for the Bundesliga with Pep's presence adding strength but not starting from scratch.

For Manchester City it is also the same because in the end Pep also only continues from the condition of Manchester City which is already strong with the money they have. He is a phenomenal coach but there is another factor that makes him shine even more, which is always right in making decisions in training a club.

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