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Quote from: Captain Corporate on September 25, 2023, 07:11:26 PM

Napoli didn't do well last year either at the UCL stage, they were good at the league and they did manage to go up their group stages as well, but they weren't at semi finals.

The next match is against Real Madrid, the maestro of European football with extensive experience. I have my doubts about Napoli's chances in the upcoming game against Real Madrid. While Real Madrid might face some challenges against an Italian club, the match will be heavily influenced by their experience and mental strength.

So far, I prefer to see Napoli excel in domestic leagues rather than European competitions. Although their performance in Serie A last year was impressive, it has yet to demonstrate the consistency required to compete in European tournaments alongside the giants from other nations.

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Quote from: AndySt on September 25, 2023, 05:28:16 PM

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From those 4 teams, I only think Bayern Munich and Man City that deserve to be the candidate for the champion. Man City is the defending winner and they have prefect squad, there is no doubt about the quality of Man City squad and the coach. TBH, I still assume that Man City is the favorite to win again the UCL title this season. Meanwhile Bayern Munich is also a strong candidate after they got Harry Kane as their main striker this season. Having Harry Kane makes Bayern squad perfect, they have all top players in each line now. We also can see the stats of their current matches, it looks quite impressive. Anyway, I am sorry I exclude Real Madrid and Barcelona, because I think these teams still have no proper squad to win the UCL title. They are also not in their best form, so not really sure these teams can reach the final round.

Personally, I would exclude Bayern Munich from the list of the main favorites for now, too, leaving only Manchester City as the main contender for the Champions League title. Nevertheless, the matches with Bayern with Bayer Leverkusen and Manchester United showed that the Bavarian machine is not yet so strong as to calmly grind any opponent. But undoubtedly, at this point in time, Bayern Munich towers over Barcelona and Real Madrid. However, it is only the beginning of the season and there are no far-reaching conclusions based on these results., including on the basis of only the first round of the Champions League. More or less real layouts will begin to appear only in a few months in the middle of the season.

Sorry if I break your predictions regarding Bayern Munich, but I have a different opinion from you, even the clubs out there are very likely, even clubs that are not in the top will possibly come out on top this season, even though there are so many big clubs and they haven't are still defending champions but in my opinion, there will be a non-seeded club that will win the Champions this season, whether from the Italian league or even from the French league, because anyone has the right and there are even many non-seeded clubs that are performing well in their respective leagues.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 25, 2023, 06:12:41 PM

I can comfortably add Bayern Munich into one of the favourites for the Champions League title now. Since Kane joined the team the team have started to play much more different. His contribution so far in terms of goals and assists both is very impressive. But of course not only this is helping them.

Tuchel's system started to work like clockwork on one hand. You know he came in a really crucial situation last season. He didn't have much time to make the team adapt to his system and get full efficiency from the players. But it looks like he took advantage of summer break really well.

Bayern is a big team that has good coaches and players on all fronts to win every game.
Bayern is always one of the top favorites for the Champions League.
Harry Kane is the best striker in the world at the moment, and he is on fire.
Kane is on his way to his first league title, and I think it is well deserved.
And maybe he will win the Ballon d'Or this season.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 25, 2023, 06:12:41 PM

I can comfortably add Bayern Munich into one of the favourites for the Champions League title now. Since Kane joined the team the team have started to play much more different. His contribution so far in terms of goals and assists both is very impressive. But of course not only this is helping them.

Tuchel's system started to work like clockwork on one hand. You know he came in a really crucial situation last season. He didn't have much time to make the team adapt to his system and get full efficiency from the players. But it looks like he took advantage of summer break really well.

There is no change for Harry Kane he is still contributing with the new team and scoring a lot of goals, the passion there is still there especially being in the Champions League competition I feel Bayern Munich will be a candidate for the title option.

Believe in Tuchel he has experience of winning Champions League titles but with Bayern it will be different maybe easier to build the team because they have a talented squad, now just focus on both sides at the moment Bundesliga and Champions League, how the trophy will be, we have to see.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 25, 2023, 04:58:02 PM

From those 4 teams, I only think Bayern Munich and Man City that deserve to be the candidate for the champion. Man City is the defending winner and they have prefect squad, there is no doubt about the quality of Man City squad and the coach. TBH, I still assume that Man City is the favorite to win again the UCL title this season. Meanwhile Bayern Munich is also a strong candidate after they got Harry Kane as their main striker this season. Having Harry Kane makes Bayern squad perfect, they have all top players in each line now. We also can see the stats of their current matches, it looks quite impressive.

Manchester City is a title holder and they are defending their crown but they lost some star players in the summer like Marez, Gundogan and Laporte. Their squad has less depth than the past season and they also have to beat a challenge that only Real Madrid can defend Champions League title in history. They can repeat success of Real Madrid but from history, it is very difficult task and somewhat reveals a very high competitiveness in Champions League.

Bayern Munich after having Harry Kane have become more attacking dangerous but their defense system is not too good from defenders to goalkeeper. It is where they must improve and need luckiness too to win Champions League.

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Anyway, I am sorry I exclude Real Madrid and Barcelona, because I think these teams still have no proper squad to win the UCL title. They are also not in their best form, so not really sure these teams can reach the final round.

I only agree with you by excluding Barcelona but Real Madrid should never be underestimated in Champions League. They still have good players, squad and a very experienced coach in Champions League. Carlo Ancelotti knows how to win knock out matches in Champions League.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on September 25, 2023, 07:11:26 PM

Napoli didn't do well last year either at the UCL stage, they were good at the league and they did manage to go up their group stages as well, but they weren't at semi finals. I think it wouldn't be the worst thing for them if they failed to go any further here, as long as they could fix the league situation. Thats their thing, they should try to win the league as much as they can, if they end up finishing not even in the top four this year, I am not sure if Osimhen or any other player would have the same value as it did during this summer. Without that type of power and success, they will just become the ordinary napoli they were before last years title run.

The way Napoli are going these days,I am not convinced about their progressing through this stage of the competition.Last year,they did exceptionally well in their league,going on to win it after so many years,but it looked as if their mumentum has died off,players no longer put more effort in winning games,and they still have their top goal scorer in the team.Osihmen was their main man last season,winning the golden boot in the league.But Champions league is a league for winners, that is why it is always very tough to play and win there.But Napoli progressing through this stage of the competition is definitely a doubt for me.They didn't improve their squad in the summer,and it's going to affect them.

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Napoli didn't do well last year either at the UCL stage, they were good at the league and they did manage to go up their group stages as well, but they weren't at semi finals. I think it wouldn't be the worst thing for them if they failed to go any further here, as long as they could fix the league situation. Thats their thing, they should try to win the league as much as they can, if they end up finishing not even in the top four this year, I am not sure if Osimhen or any other player would have the same value as it did during this summer. Without that type of power and success, they will just become the ordinary napoli they were before last years title run.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on September 25, 2023, 12:06:22 PM

Napoli its not having his best time, so i dont know how much they can do against the most Champions League team of the history.

The first thing that must be done by napoli first to pass the group stage. Napoli obviously has the bigger chance to make it after real madrid even though napoli's performance is far compared with previous season. It must be noted that if napoli was losing against milan during the quarter final last season. I don't even see chance for this club to win UCL.
It looks so harsh but the current performance from napolis not enough to make it happen. Garcia still has time to digging himself a grave by getting another bad result with napoli. Getting draw or lose against small team in serie a was unacceptable result as it will able to greatly affecting the mentality from the players.

Quote from: Volgastallion on September 25, 2023, 12:06:22 PM

Im gonna look the group of Manchester United, its gonna be a good battle for the third and second place between all the teams, after the results from first round.

United has slightly chance to quality for the play off if the club keeps perform like shit. Don't underrated copen hagen and galatasaray. Even though these team have lower qualities compared with united but they were good enough to beat manchester united. We can't also expect the defenders of manchester united to perform well. Their performances are always going up and down.

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Quote from: AndySt on September 25, 2023, 05:28:16 PM

Personally, I would exclude Bayern Munich from the list of the main favorites for now, too, leaving only Manchester City as the main contender for the Champions League title.

It means we only have a single candidate for UCL champion, right?
No doubt Man City is the strongest candidate, their quality is above other teams. Man City still showed good performance with no much different on their squad from the previous season. I think it is one of the reason why they have no problem with the cohesiveness in playing.

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Nevertheless, the matches with Bayern with Bayer Leverkusen and Manchester United showed that the Bavarian machine is not yet so strong as to calmly grind any opponent.

If we consider the match against Man United, the problem of Bayern Munich is in the defense line. Bayern attackers have showed their best by scoring 4 goals. Unfortunately, Bayern Munich has weak defense, they got 3 conceded goals in second half. So, if Bayern Munich can solve the defense problem, they can be quite strong to be another candidate for the champion.

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However, it is only the beginning of the season and there are no far-reaching conclusions based on these results., including on the basis of only the first round of the Champions League. More or less real layouts will begin to appear only in a few months in the middle of the season.

Sure, it is still the early of the competition. To know which teams that have good chance to reach the final UCL, it should reach the middle of the competition at least. So, it is still difficult to predict for the champion candidate now.

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I can comfortably add Bayern Munich into one of the favourites for the Champions League title now. Since Kane joined the team the team have started to play much more different. His contribution so far in terms of goals and assists both is very impressive. But of course not only this is helping them.

Tuchel's system started to work like clockwork on one hand. You know he came in a really crucial situation last season. He didn't have much time to make the team adapt to his system and get full efficiency from the players. But it looks like he took advantage of summer break really well.

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Quote from: legendbtc on September 25, 2023, 09:22:11 AM

I will name the top 4 candidates for the Champions League title this season.
First is my favorite name: Bayern. They maintain an unbeaten record this season in the Bundesliga and Champions League.
I must always have to mention Man City because they are the defending champions. They have a good squad and are led by a talented and experienced coach.
Next is a Barca team that has been at a high level since Xavi took over as the team's head coach.
And the last name I want to mention is Real Madrid, even though they were recently defeated by Atletico in La Liga. They have a history with the most championship trophies. With this arena, they will pay more attention. It is also possible that they win the championship this season.

You are correct, in my opinion, that one of the clubs you mentioned above will win the Champions League this season. I can say this with confidence. because of how well they have done in the early games of their various leagues. Although I am seeing Manchester City or Barcelona are the two main contenders with the greatest chance of winning the Champions League. Real Madrid is not winning the Champions League any time soon. They can either get to the semi-finals and be kicked out. Let Manchester City, Barcelona, or Bayern Munich keep on being in a position to win the Champions League title.

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From those 4 teams, I only think Bayern Munich and Man City that deserve to be the candidate for the champion. Man City is the defending winner and they have prefect squad, there is no doubt about the quality of Man City squad and the coach. TBH, I still assume that Man City is the favorite to win again the UCL title this season. Meanwhile Bayern Munich is also a strong candidate after they got Harry Kane as their main striker this season. Having Harry Kane makes Bayern squad perfect, they have all top players in each line now. We also can see the stats of their current matches, it looks quite impressive. Anyway, I am sorry I exclude Real Madrid and Barcelona, because I think these teams still have no proper squad to win the UCL title. They are also not in their best form, so not really sure these teams can reach the final round.

Personally, I would exclude Bayern Munich from the list of the main favorites for now, too, leaving only Manchester City as the main contender for the Champions League title. Nevertheless, the matches with Bayern with Bayer Leverkusen and Manchester United showed that the Bavarian machine is not yet so strong as to calmly grind any opponent. But undoubtedly, at this point in time, Bayern Munich towers over Barcelona and Real Madrid. However, it is only the beginning of the season and there are no far-reaching conclusions based on these results., including on the basis of only the first round of the Champions League. More or less real layouts will begin to appear only in a few months in the middle of the season.

Bayern was always conceded so many goals and i do agree with it unless bayern will able to have stronger defensive line and i have no even clue how can bayern win the UCL this season. It's caused by the quality of bayern compared to th city is still very far at this moment.
I would not even try to blame it because this is the fact. Madrid and barcelona are still also below manchester city at this point. City looked like very strong in term of all of positions. It has great defensive, good attackers, best midfielders.
I saw city looked like the most completed club in this year. Let's take a look at how manchester city is still trying to break more records.

The current competition looked like very competitive as all of english premier league teams looked like very strong except manchester united which is still under perform at this moment.
City is still become my main choice in this season to defend its trophy achieved last season.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on September 25, 2023, 04:58:02 PM

From those 4 teams, I only think Bayern Munich and Man City that deserve to be the candidate for the champion. Man City is the defending winner and they have prefect squad, there is no doubt about the quality of Man City squad and the coach. TBH, I still assume that Man City is the favorite to win again the UCL title this season. Meanwhile Bayern Munich is also a strong candidate after they got Harry Kane as their main striker this season. Having Harry Kane makes Bayern squad perfect, they have all top players in each line now. We also can see the stats of their current matches, it looks quite impressive. Anyway, I am sorry I exclude Real Madrid and Barcelona, because I think these teams still have no proper squad to win the UCL title. They are also not in their best form, so not really sure these teams can reach the final round.

Personally, I would exclude Bayern Munich from the list of the main favorites for now, too, leaving only Manchester City as the main contender for the Champions League title. Nevertheless, the matches with Bayern with Bayer Leverkusen and Manchester United showed that the Bavarian machine is not yet so strong as to calmly grind any opponent. But undoubtedly, at this point in time, Bayern Munich towers over Barcelona and Real Madrid. However, it is only the beginning of the season and there are no far-reaching conclusions based on these results., including on the basis of only the first round of the Champions League. More or less real layouts will begin to appear only in a few months in the middle of the season.

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Quote from: legendbtc on September 25, 2023, 09:22:11 AM

I will name the top 4 candidates for the Champions League title this season.
First is my favorite name: Bayern. They maintain an unbeaten record this season in the Bundesliga and Champions League.
I must always have to mention Man City because they are the defending champions. They have a good squad and are led by a talented and experienced coach.
Next is a Barca team that has been at a high level since Xavi took over as the team's head coach.
And the last name I want to mention is Real Madrid, even though they were recently defeated by Atletico in La Liga. They have a history with the most championship trophies. With this arena, they will pay more attention. It is also possible that they win the championship this season.

From those 4 teams, I only think Bayern Munich and Man City that deserve to be the candidate for the champion. Man City is the defending winner and they have prefect squad, there is no doubt about the quality of Man City squad and the coach. TBH, I still assume that Man City is the favorite to win again the UCL title this season. Meanwhile Bayern Munich is also a strong candidate after they got Harry Kane as their main striker this season. Having Harry Kane makes Bayern squad perfect, they have all top players in each line now. We also can see the stats of their current matches, it looks quite impressive.

Anyway, I am sorry I exclude Real Madrid and Barcelona, because I think these teams still have no proper squad to win the UCL title. They are also not in their best form, so not really sure these teams can reach the final round.

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Dortmund is not very strong this season after Bellingham departure because in the domestic league alone Dortmund has not been able to show good performance. For PSG, the first win will be quite important for them because slowly Luis Enrique has proven his best qualities to rebuild PSG strength after their imbalance of strength in the domestic league this season.

With its current condition, especially being in the hell group of UCL, Dortmund's position is very difficult. They are not a small club, but their performance so far cannot be considered enough to compete with their competitors in the group. Losing to PSG in the first match is something that is very likely to happen with Dortmund's current strength. And later they will compete against Milan, who in fact are the giants of Serie A. It certainly won't be easy for Dortmund to beat Milan. Even though last week, Milan could only draw with Newcastle, so now they definitely want to maximize their potential so they can win. receive full points again. From here, MIlan will definitely be even more optimal. If Dortmund can do it better, they should also be able to gain an advantage. But unfortunately, currently Dortmund's condition is not very good.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 25, 2023, 10:54:13 AM

Yes and I think the 2 clbs you mentioned are the biggest favorites to win the title this season. Moreover, they are big clubs in their respective leagues. I will comment more on Real Madrid, they are a Champions League regular, and they still hold the record for the most Champions League titles in existence. I have to say this, that they are the club that has the best mentality that I have seen so far, especially if they are in the Champions League.
They are fearsome, and it's not uncommon for them to surprise you.

Aside from them, Manchester City have everything it takes to win the Champions League for a second time, from their backline to their frontline. That's thanks to Pep's success in building the foundation of this club.

For me, I would probably choose Bayern Munich as the strongest candidate this season. They are getting stronger this season, some of them even have to admit that when they meet Bayern Munich, it is like they have an opponent that is impossible for them to beat. Tuchel is slowly being able to make Bayern Munich fans forget about Nagelsmann because of his expertise in making the team stronger this season. A form of quality play was shown by Bayern Munich when they beat Manchester United. Even in that match they could have secured a win with a big score if they were able to maintain their performance in the second half.

For Manchester City or Real Madrid, they have to be wary of the rise of other teams this season, such as Barcelona, because Barcelona was able to provide a surprise in their first match by winning with a big score. I admit that Barcelona could have achieved greater levels of progress this season. Like Newcastle United, they still don't put much pressure on their opponents, but I noticed that they have the ambition to record their best moments this season.

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There will be a big match for week 2 between Napoli vs Real Madrid and both teams has been met on 2017 twice at that time Real Madrid can win all of the matches and after Spaletti left Napoli still unable to find their shape because in Serie A they still unable to wins 3 times streak and in champion league too Napoli only win with narrow scores against weak team Braga and if we compared to the conditions between these teams i think Real Madrid clearly better than Napoli although they just lose last week from Atletico Madrid but basically Real Madrid performance is more stable than Napoli and regarding this match although Napoli will playing at their home ground but i feel like Real Madrid will be the winner of this match

Before the Napoli vs Real Madrid match takes place, Real Madrid has two La Liga matches scheduled against Las Palmas and Girona. I don't think Real Madrid will have any trouble winning both games, but Ancelotti will likely have to be able to rotate players enough to not get tired against Napoli.

If there is any match that makes me inconvenient this season is that match between Napoli and Real Madrid, I can't stand to watch my homeboy play against my club and now the boy has much determination, and seeing that Real Madrid has always been a record breaker of the Champions League, he will come with a full force to score a goal and win at least a match against Real Madrid in the group stage, he was fuming yesterday for been subbed off in their domestic league, he wants to score goals and that's I fear about him right now, however, I'm still sure that we will exit this group to the next 16 rounds.

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It is very likely that Real Madrid will again get the services of Vinicius in this tough match so it can be hoped that this will improve their attacking game. Napoli are playing at home and might be able to make things difficult for Real Madrid, but things will be different considering the big match is still quite far away. In the last match Real Madrid had difficulty beating Union Berlin, so that might affect their probability of winning against Napoli.

Vinicius didn't show up in their last Laliga match against Atletico Madrid which is likely because of the injury but I'm confident that Ancelotti will make him get some rest while preparing for the Champions League, Girona and Las Palmas wouldn't be a problem for the available players to destroy. Deep down, I want to see how Vinicius and Bellingham are going to play along with Osimhen and Khvicha and it's even likely for Real Madrid to beat Napoli blue black because currently, they are not well in form, I don't think they can do well in the Champions League.

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Quote from: W Jr. on September 25, 2023, 02:10:41 PM

This year, Napoli is playing matches far from last year's form and the players cannot do their best for Napoli. Osimhen and the other players are still not very good and it looks like Napoli will lose a lot of points until they get in shape. I think Real Madrid will be the favorite of the match. I expect them to win against Napoli.

Napoli are not very strong this season, they seem to have failed to strengthen their squad in maintaining their best form. In Serie A they seem to have difficulty beating their opponents so this could be a bad thing for them to be able to show their best quality in the Champions League. Apart from that, the change of coach made it seem like their squad had failed to make stronger progress at the start of this season. I think Napoli will have great difficulty showing the strong game they showed last season.

In the group phase, several other teams cannot be seen as weak because they will take advantage of the instability of the big teams to achieve victory. For Napoli they must be able to appear different in every Champions League match, even though their performance is unstable in Serie A, they must be able to improve their performance in the Champions League. Napoli will face Real Madrid in the next match. I'm sure this match will be full of pressure for them because they face a team that is quite strong in the Champions League.

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Quote from: bering on September 25, 2023, 10:55:41 AM

There will be a big match for week 2 between Napoli vs Real Madrid and both teams has been met on 2017 twice at that time Real Madrid can win all of the matches and after Spaletti left Napoli still unable to find their shape because in Serie A they still unable to wins 3 times streak and in champion league too Napoli only win with narrow scores against weak team Braga and if we compared to the conditions between these teams i think Real Madrid clearly better than Napoli although they just lose last week from Atletico Madrid but basically Real Madrid performance is more stable than Napoli and regarding this match although Napoli will playing at their home ground but i feel like Real Madrid will be the winner of this match

This year, Napoli is playing matches far from last year's form and the players cannot do their best for Napoli. Osimhen and the other players are still not very good and it looks like Napoli will lose a lot of points until they get in shape. I think Real Madrid will be the favorite of the match. I expect them to win against Napoli.

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Quote from: bering on September 25, 2023, 10:55:41 AM

There will be a big match for week 2 between Napoli vs Real Madrid and both teams has been met on 2017 twice at that time Real Madrid can win all of the matches and after Spaletti left Napoli still unable to find their shape because in Serie A they still unable to wins 3 times streak and in champion league too Napoli only win with narrow scores against weak team Braga and if we compared to the conditions between these teams i think Real Madrid clearly better than Napoli although they just lose last week from Atletico Madrid but basically Real Madrid performance is more stable than Napoli and regarding this match although Napoli will playing at their home ground but i feel like Real Madrid will be the winner of this match

Based on your analysis and prediction of who will win this match, you may still have reservations about Real Madrid winning. After the contrast and what made you think Napoli wouldn't win, you also mentioned Real Madrid's inability to win their last league match against Atletico Madrid. The Champions League is unique, and it has been played with greater seriousness than other competitions, especially now that they are both big teams with the potential to advance farther in the champions league.

Let's simply assume the game is on a neutral ground and don't compare them to their previous league results. The match may take an unexpected turn, and our expectations may not be realised just yet. While I believe Real Madrid will also win, I have some reservations that Napoli will perform good too and try to beat Real Madrid in this match.

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