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I am trying to rank up the efforts of the Gunners (Arsenal) of their possibility to take the champions league with the way they are playing so far and I think that is doable. But one thing that the team most do is to remain consistent and increase their chances through their squad depth. As for Real Madrid, it is easier to predict their chances too. One is because of their trajectory and the other points to the fact that they ain't doing badly so far too. Another team is the Barcelona, the El-classico contender, in the spirit they started too. Man city is right another strong force that's pushing hard this season. Overall, one of these 4 teams is likely to emerge in the season.

IMO for Arsenal they just try their best and as much as possible talk further not only about passing the group phase because when talking about the problem of winning the Champions League obviously it is not an easy thing especially for Arsenal who have not been in this competition for a long time.
There are still many stronger candidates in this case and Arsenal must be aware of that so instead of being busy thinking about how they will look for opportunities to win it is better to use this Champions League to be better in terms of performance because that is what Arsenal must do so that they get something they cannot get in the previous season.
It's not wrong to try to be a challenger club and want to win but I think Arsenal also realise that they will find it difficult to do that.

The Arsenal squad, which can now be said to be the best squad after the Invincible era, only lacks an EPL trophy. Indeed, Arsenal still needs a goal-hungry striker with a tall posture who is strong on the ball and good finishing. The midfield and back line are quite good in terms of squad depth. I think Arsenal could be the dark horse of the UCL, but I think they can win the UCL season.

Currently Arsenal is very strong, almost equal to the champions Man City, if Arsenal had a top striker they could definitely beat Man City. Currently only Oshimen, Mbappe and Kane are close in quality to Halland. However, if during the next transfer window they can bring in a top striker, it is not impossible that they will go far in the UCL league and could even reach the top of the final.

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Quote from: iBaba on September 26, 2023, 12:29:45 PM

I am trying to rank up the efforts of the Gunners (Arsenal) of their possibility to take the champions league with the way they are playing so far and I think that is doable. But one thing that the team most do is to remain consistent and increase their chances through their squad depth.

Another team is the Barcelona, the El-classico contender, in the spirit they started too.

Arsenal cannot win the CL on their return to the tournament after so many years away, i know that anything is possible in football, but this isn't going to happen. Arsenal would see it as an achievement to make it to the RO16, and if they can get to the QF, then they had a good season in the CL, i predict that Arsenal wouldn't get past the QF, that's if they make it there. Having said that, Barcelona as well cannot win the CL this season, the strong contenders for the CL title is City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: iBaba on September 26, 2023, 12:29:45 PM

I am trying to rank up the efforts of the Gunners (Arsenal) of their possibility to take the champions league with the way they are playing so far and I think that is doable. But one thing that the team most do is to remain consistent and increase their chances through their squad depth. As for Real Madrid, it is easier to predict their chances too. One is because of their trajectory and the other points to the fact that they ain't doing badly so far too. Another team is the Barcelona, the El-classico contender, in the spirit they started too. Man city is right another strong force that's pushing hard this season. Overall, one of these 4 teams is likely to emerge in the season.

IMO for Arsenal they just try their best and as much as possible talk further not only about passing the group phase because when talking about the problem of winning the Champions League obviously it is not an easy thing especially for Arsenal who have not been in this competition for a long time.
There are still many stronger candidates in this case and Arsenal must be aware of that so instead of being busy thinking about how they will look for opportunities to win it is better to use this Champions League to be better in terms of performance because that is what Arsenal must do so that they get something they cannot get in the previous season.
It's not wrong to try to be a challenger club and want to win but I think Arsenal also realise that they will find it difficult to do that.

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Quote from: Distraction on September 26, 2023, 01:23:10 PM

Manchester United are having really difficult days recently. But their performance against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena was really promising. I must admit that their defending was really poor and Onana was also terrible. But they were still able to stand still by answering them with many goals. There was a score like 4-3 at the end despite getting a loss.

Bayern Munich performance dropped in the second half of the match, which gave them the opportunity to score three goals in the second half of the match, but Manchester United performance was very poor in the first half. Bayern Munich dominated the match in the first half of the match, I was even expecting more than four goals in the match, but Bayern performance dropped. Everyone has been complaining about Manchester United's defense and their goalkeeper. I think Ten Hang should fix that as soon as possible. Manchester United defense is so easy to break, and the goalkeeper concede goals easily.

I still don’t see any improvement in Manchester United's performance. After playing against Bayern Munich in their last Champions League match, they have played one Premier League match, which was against Burnley, a very weak club, but Manchester struggled to score one goal in the match, which is very bad. Manchester United shouldn’t be struggling to win a club like Burnley.

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Quote from: Distraction on September 26, 2023, 01:23:10 PM

Manchester United are having really difficult days recently. But their performance against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena was really promising. I must admit that their defending was really poor and Onana was also terrible. But they were still able to stand still by answering them with many goals. There was a score like 4-3 at the end despite getting a loss.

Therefore Galatasaray's job in Old Trafford will be really difficult next week. If they started strongly by a win against Copenhagen then losing against Manchester United here wouldn't be a big deal for them.

But getting that draw made them more desperate for a win now. But I'm afraid they are very likely to lose here.

On group A without a doubt the favorites to move to the next round are Bayern Munich and Manchester United, however in order to have any chance to compete Copenhagen and Galatasaray needed the win against each other, this way they will have some room to maneuver, as if Bayern could beat Manchester United again during their next match then this could create a clear first place and put second place within the reach of either Copenhagen or Galatasaray, but with the tie this means that if one of those teams wants to reach second place they will have to win 2 out 4 games against the favorites of the group, not an easy feat to do if you ask me.

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Quote from: ancafe on September 26, 2023, 04:24:42 AM

Napoli will face Real Madrid at home so it is quite difficult for them to get full points in that match, even though Real Madrid have just suffered a defeat in the domestic league. For this match, I am more confident that Real Madrid will emerge victorious because Napoli are also not in the best condition at the moment.

What is certain is that this match will be intense, because the winner of this match between Napoli vs Real Madrid will be the temporary leader of Group C, this is important to increase the team's confidence. Indeed, both of these teams are experiencing poor matches in their respective leagues, Real Madrid lost to Atl Madrid while they drew against a weak team Bologna. Indeed, in general, many people will definitely support Real Madrid because if Real Madrid plays in the UCL league, they will be very different from playing in Laliga, they seem to have other strengths, this is the same as when they scored a goal against Union at the end of the match. This proves that their enthusiasm is much greater when playing in the UCL League than Laliga.

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Manchester United will face Galatasaray at Old Trafford and this is an important match to get full points and if Manchester United lose it will be difficult for them to qualify for the next round. Erik Ten Hak will apply an attacking strategy in this match and they must be able to break into Galatasaray's goal in the early minutes so they can get a complete victory.

This match is betting on ETH's position as coach of Man United, a win is a fixed price for them to maintain their hopes of qualifying for the next phase in group A. This will be an interesting match because Galatasaray this year has a very good team, they even signed today Ndombele and Sanchez , I wouldn't be surprised if they could beat Man United.

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Quote from: Weawant on September 26, 2023, 12:56:27 PM

Definitely Chelsea is in no way fit to be in the champions league at this time, going by the recent happening around them they would definitely make a mess of their selves if there were at the ucl, most likely they would have found it difficult to win any game at all, loosing streaks would be their experience most of the times as they don't have the capacity at the moment.

The UCL is a very competitive league filled with bigger teams who in one way or the other happens to be champions in their various leagues , it would have been indeed a nightmare for Chelsea as they could have been affected psychologically after series of loss and their performance in EPl would even turn worse because it will be really heavy on them that they are loosing back to back.

So for Chelsea at this point such a competitive league is not what is needed for them as it may not have a very positive impact on them, they should focus on the league where they find their self now and hope to get better by improving on every aspects of their game and tactics. I anticipate seeing Chelsea turning out better as time goes on in the premier league.

In short, Chelsea is not in the UCL because they finished 12th in the EPL standings last season, where the Blues were also knocked out of the European League and European Conference League. Recently the situation is getting worse with a series of defeats, perhaps this is a consequence of the change in club ownership. The reforms that were brought did not work properly, in the end this transition process put the club in a very bad condition. Absence from European competition should have given Pochettino more space to focus on winning in the EPL, but in fact a storm of injuries shattered these hopes and put them in 14th place in the standings.

Even though Pochettino cannot be completely blamed, for now he is the one most responsible for improving Chelsea performance in the following matches. If we can get out of this nightmare, I think the foundation of the Blues strength will gradually be formed from their young squad. Of course, it is more realistic to say that it is a success if Pochettino can bring the Blues to finish in the Europa League zone at the end of the season. A best achievement, if you look at their condition today.

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Quote from: Distraction on September 26, 2023, 01:23:10 PM

Manchester United are having really difficult days recently. But their performance against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena was really promising. I must admit that their defending was really poor and Onana was also terrible. But they were still able to stand still by answering them with many goals. There was a score like 4-3 at the end despite getting a loss.

Therefore Galatasaray's job in Old Trafford will be really difficult next week. If they started strongly by a win against Copenhagen then losing against Manchester United here wouldn't be a big deal for them.

But getting that draw made them more desperate for a win now. But I'm afraid they are very likely to lose here.

Onana made a blunder in that match, but he also made 5 saves. In contrast to Bayern's goalkeeper, Sven Ulreich is really bad. In the match against Bayern, Man United at the start of the first half, especially in the first 20 minutes, they performed really well, even dominating possession of the ball. But after more than 20 minutes had passed, especially when Leroy Sane scored Bayern's first goal, Manchester United's game was again inconsistent. If Ten Hag is able to make his team's squad perform consistently, United will be a tough opponent.

On Bayern's side, they don't have a goalkeeper they can really rely on. and thus, it becomes a problem for Thomas Tuchel. However, because there weren't many choices, he couldn't help but remain the main starter.

Talking about the Man United vs Galatasaray match, it is definitely not an easy job for them. Moreover, several United players have recovered from their injuries. At a minimum, Ten Hag has several options with strategies that he will use when United plays Galatasaray. This match is played at Old Trafford, United will perform even better. At least, Ten Hag will prepare his team to play with maximum performance. IMO, I think United has a big chance of winning this match.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on September 26, 2023, 11:55:22 AM

Do you want Chelsea's nightmare to be worse than what they're going through right now? They are literally unfit for the Champions League, and their league performance is not even encouraging. It will be difficult for them to cope with playing in the most competitive league with the biggest teams. Chelsea is not fit to compete in the Champions League and should not be considered for the game in the first place.

They probably won’t make it through the group stage and it’s sad how they are struggling even with the amount of money spent and the quality of players in the club right now, I don’t think they should be struggling to win matches or score goals as it is now. Playing in the champions league will be total humiliation for them as all the matches will be against top teams in Europe so for now I don’t think they are ready for such challenge, they should focus on improving their performance and bringing back their confidence, it may take time but with the right approach they can make it happen in matter of weeks. They will be a deadly team if they are able to get themselves back because of the caliber of players they have. I just hope they don’t end up being relegated.

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Quote from: harapan on September 26, 2023, 01:43:24 PM

Quote from: Distraction on September 26, 2023, 01:23:10 PM

Manchester United are having really difficult days recently. But their performance against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena was really promising. I must admit that their defending was really poor and Onana was also terrible. But they were still able to stand still by answering them with many goals. There was a score like 4-3 at the end despite getting a loss.

Therefore Galatasaray's job in Old Trafford will be really difficult next week. If they started strongly by a win against Copenhagen then losing against Manchester United here wouldn't be a big deal for them.

But getting that draw made them more desperate for a win now. But I'm afraid they are very likely to lose here.

During the first half they could not operate well enough to to score Bayern Munich. They responded positively as they should during the second half. That day Onana was also part of the players that made mistake and he took blames for that defeat. The defending to midfielder's was not having that connection.
Galatasaray will not be like Bayern Munich they are a side that signed players like Zaha and Ziyech but they will not hurt Man United if they are coordinated.
Copenhagen are the side that challenges United but they United will phase through.

At least, if Manchester United defense can be better, then it is very possible that Manchester United will not lose when playing against Bayern Munich. Because after all, basically Manchester United still has a good attack line and that way, playing against Galatasaray can certainly be a winning result for Manchester United. No matter about Galatasaray having Zaha and Ziyech because anyway, Manchester United will also play at home and Manchester United also has better quality players of course. So yes, there is no good reason for Manchester United to fail, because playing at home against Galatasaray should certainly be three points for Manchester United.

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Quote from: Distraction on September 26, 2023, 01:23:10 PM

Manchester United are having really difficult days recently. But their performance against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena was really promising. I must admit that their defending was really poor and Onana was also terrible. But they were still able to stand still by answering them with many goals. There was a score like 4-3 at the end despite getting a loss.

Therefore Galatasaray's job in Old Trafford will be really difficult next week. If they started strongly by a win against Copenhagen then losing against Manchester United here wouldn't be a big deal for them.

But getting that draw made them more desperate for a win now. But I'm afraid they are very likely to lose here.

During the first half they could not operate well enough to to score Bayern Munich. They responded positively as they should during the second half. That day Onana was also part of the players that made mistake and he took blames for that defeat. The defending to midfielder's was not having that connection.
Galatasaray will not be like Bayern Munich they are a side that signed players like Zaha and Ziyech but they will not hurt Man United if they are coordinated.
Copenhagen are the side that challenges United but they United will phase through.

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Manchester United are having really difficult days recently. But their performance against Bayern Munich in Allianz Arena was really promising. I must admit that their defending was really poor and Onana was also terrible. But they were still able to stand still by answering them with many goals. There was a score like 4-3 at the end despite getting a loss.

Therefore Galatasaray's job in Old Trafford will be really difficult next week. If they started strongly by a win against Copenhagen then losing against Manchester United here wouldn't be a big deal for them.

But getting that draw made them more desperate for a win now. But I'm afraid they are very likely to lose here.

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Quote from: Ndabagi01 on September 26, 2023, 11:55:22 AM

Do you want Chelsea's nightmare to be worse than what they're going through right now? They are literally unfit for the Champions League, and their league performance is not even encouraging. It will be difficult for them to cope with playing in the most competitive league with the biggest teams. Chelsea is not fit to compete in the Champions League and should not be considered for the game in the first place.

Definitely Chelsea is in no way fit to be in the champions league at this time, going by the recent happening around them they would definitely make a mess of their selves if there were at the ucl, most likely they would have found it difficult to win any game at all, loosing streaks would be their experience most of the times as they don't have the capacity at the moment.

The UCL is a very competitive league filled with bigger teams who in one way or the other happens to be champions in their various leagues , it would have been indeed a nightmare for Chelsea as they could have been affected psychologically after series of loss and their performance in EPl would even turn worse because it will be really heavy on them that they are loosing back to back.

So for Chelsea at this point such a competitive league is not what is needed for them as it may not have a very positive impact on them, they should focus on the league where they find their self now and hope to get better by improving on every aspects of their game and tactics. I anticipate seeing Chelsea turning out better as time goes on in the premier league.

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So that's my opinion and maybe we will still see Manchester City and Real Madrid having a rematch in the Champions League this season.

It could happen, the both teams have played against each other in the last two seasons in the CL, Real Madrid eliminated City on the road to winning the CL title in the 2021/2022 season, whilst City as well defeated Real Madrid on the road to winning the CL title in the 2022/2023 season, thus if they meet this season, it will be the third time in a row, and who knows, this time it could be in the final.

Having said that, City are strong favorites to defend their CL trophy, there are other strong contenders like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, but i think the time has come for City to dominate in Europe, and i am backing them to win the CL back to back.

I think, if the Real Madrid squad will remain like this, then it will likely be difficult for Real Madrid to reach the Champions League final this season. Unless, if in the transfer market later Real Madrid managed to bring in new players or maybe managed to bring Mbappe, then it will certainly make Real Madrid have a great chance to be able to play until the final match. But yes, if in the transfer market later Real Madrid do not make many changes, then I think the Champions League this season will likely be a strong competition between Manchester City and Bayern Munich, or maybe Inter will still have a chance too, who knows.

I am trying to rank up the efforts of the Gunners (Arsenal) of their possibility to take the champions league with the way they are playing so far and I think that is doable. But one thing that the team most do is to remain consistent and increase their chances through their squad depth. As for Real Madrid, it is easier to predict their chances too. One is because of their trajectory and the other points to the fact that they ain't doing badly so far too. Another team is the Barcelona, the El-classico contender, in the spirit they started too. Man city is right another strong force that's pushing hard this season. Overall, one of these 4 teams is likely to emerge in the season.

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So that's my opinion and maybe we will still see Manchester City and Real Madrid having a rematch in the Champions League this season.

It could happen, the both teams have played against each other in the last two seasons in the CL, Real Madrid eliminated City on the road to winning the CL title in the 2021/2022 season, whilst City as well defeated Real Madrid on the road to winning the CL title in the 2022/2023 season, thus if they meet this season, it will be the third time in a row, and who knows, this time it could be in the final.

Having said that, City are strong favorites to defend their CL trophy, there are other strong contenders like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, but i think the time has come for City to dominate in Europe, and i am backing them to win the CL back to back.

Many see Manchester City as the main contenders for the title again. They probably do have the best results among the other clubs, but unpredictability often happens in football. Like when Chelsea beat Manchester City in the final a few years ago. I'd like to see some other team win this season.

Pep may able to get second trophy of UCL this season. City was coming with the same squad or it's even stronger compared with previous season. There are slightly changes happened to the club but this means a lot.
City is still having the best defenders in the world. It's also owning doku which is amazing on his speed and accuracy. I see city as a the most perfect team this season.

The chance for city to win UCL is still very big right now. Things are not very different as city learned a lot from its previuos mistakes.
Pep has been also forming the most balanced club. This club reminds me with the prime madrid when so many great players were still playing there. I think that city will obviously go to the final once again.

Having pep on its side was a fortune for the club.

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Quote from: makishart on September 26, 2023, 10:49:08 AM

Napoli's performance declined so hard after garcia was coming as a new appointment for napoli. There are also enough time for real madrid in building the momentum and strengthen its mentality through winning some local games that will come earlier than the match against napoli.
Napoli needs only to be careful against real madrid. Madrid has always very good record even when it was playing away.

Real Madrid is simply too good in the Champions League, and this cannot be overlooked in this circumstance. Napoli's squad performance has declined since they hired a new manager. So far, their performance has been adequate but not exceptional. I expect them to improve in the coming weeks and in their next encounter, but their match against Real Madrid could be a tough one for them to win.

Quote from: Volgastallion on September 26, 2023, 11:18:35 AM

I follow you in this one, but im gonna wait a little more to see how strong really is this Bayern Munich, i think with Kane they are a serious contender, but also they are not the strong team that they were in other seasons.

About chelsea, what a luck for them to no stay in this UCL, it can be a nightmare.

Do you want Chelsea's nightmare to be worse than what they're going through right now? They are literally unfit for the Champions League, and their league performance is not even encouraging. It will be difficult for them to cope with playing in the most competitive league with the biggest teams. Chelsea is not fit to compete in the Champions League and should not be considered for the game in the first place.

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Quote from: KTChampions on September 26, 2023, 11:15:49 AM

Thank God we won’t see another series of Real Madrid games against Chelsea, City and Liverpool for the third time in a row due to the fact that Liverpool and Chelsea are not in this Champions League Grin

As for the favorites, in my opinion, if KDB continues his treatment, then Bayern can really be the number one favorite. City is in second place, Real is in third - unfortunately they do not have the top in attack, so they are a little weaker.

I follow you in this one, but im gonna wait a little more to see how strong really is this Bayern Munich, i think with Kane they are a serious contender, but also they are not the strong team that they were in other seasons.

About chelsea, what a luck for them to no stay in this UCL, it can be a nightmare.

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Quote from: rendravolt on September 26, 2023, 04:12:39 AM

Quote from: legendbtc on September 25, 2023, 09:22:11 AM

I will name the top 4 candidates for the Champions League title this season.
First is my favorite name: Bayern. They maintain an unbeaten record this season in the Bundesliga and Champions League.
I must always have to mention Man City because they are the defending champions. They have a good squad and are led by a talented and experienced coach.
Next is a Barca team that has been at a high level since Xavi took over as the team's head coach.
And the last name I want to mention is Real Madrid, even though they were recently defeated by Atletico in La Liga. They have a history with the most championship trophies. With this arena, they will pay more attention. It is also possible that they win the championship this season.

That's quite an interesting order and there's nothing wrong with placing several teams according to their performance so far, both in the domestic league and their results in the Champions League. However, regardless of your prediction list, I still place Manchester City in first place, then second place is filled by Real Madrid, the third and fourth positions can be random.

However, I feel that Manchester City has been a very solid team since last season and even in any competition they can still be stable and consistent in becoming champions. Meanwhile, Real Madrid often face difficulties in the domestic league, but when it comes to the Champions League, they will do everything, even a comeback which is impossible for them to do. So that's my opinion and maybe we will still see Manchester City and Real Madrid having a rematch in the Champions League this season.

Thank God we won’t see another series of Real Madrid games against Chelsea, City and Liverpool for the third time in a row due to the fact that Liverpool and Chelsea are not in this Champions League Grin

As for the favorites, in my opinion, if KDB continues his treatment, then Bayern can really be the number one favorite. City is in second place, Real is in third - unfortunately they do not have the top in attack, so they are a little weaker.

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For now the position in the big group phase is likely to get them easily, their rival in group C is only Madrid and although they also have to watch out for Union because of their performance in the Champions League even though the first match lost but they are still quite good in terms of defense but Madrid and Napoli are strong candidates to qualify for the last 16 phase.
Napoli's 2nd match is a bit tough because there is Madrid ready to travel to the Stadio Diego Armando Maradona. Technically they play home for sure with great confidence but when the opponent is Madrid obviously this will be different and it could be that they lose so in this match it would be great if they could get 1 point or force for 3 points but if it is difficult then 1 point will not be a problem I think.

The Napoli team is currently performing well. Tried to do a lot better last season. But the team is doing great this season. However, the team's attack share needs to be improved. The team will do well if they play like this this season.

I don't agree with you saying Napoli are doing very well this season because if we look at how they are performing in domestic competitions, we must realize that such things are not very good for a club like Napoli.
Although in the first Champions League match Napoli were able to get a win, but on the other hand this cannot be fully used as a benchmark that they are doing very well because it could be that in the next few matches their performance in Serie A is carried over to the Champions League.
However, even though it looks fine, Rudi Garcia until now will still not be out of sight and will be criticized when Napoli play not optimally.

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Napoli didn't do well last year either at the UCL stage, they were good at the league and they did manage to go up their group stages as well, but they weren't at semi finals.

The next match is against Real Madrid, the maestro of European football with extensive experience. I have my doubts about Napoli's chances in the upcoming game against Real Madrid. While Real Madrid might face some challenges against an Italian club, the match will be heavily influenced by their experience and mental strength.

Napoli's performance is not that good in serie a. Real madrid has bigger chance in winning this game. Even though real will be playing away but im feeling so confidence with the club now. Napoli has very bad record in head to head against real madrid.
Napoli is too inconsistent this season unlike last season. Napoli has more advantage caused by the next game will happen at napoli's home. The club's inconsistency could create uncertainties for many people, leading them to have doubts about the outcome of the game.

Quote from: bayu7adi on September 25, 2023, 10:57:10 PM

So far, I prefer to see Napoli excel in domestic leagues rather than European competitions. Although their performance in Serie A last year was impressive, it has yet to demonstrate the consistency required to compete in European tournaments alongside the giants from other nations.

Napoli's performance declined so hard after garcia was coming as a new appointment for napoli. There are also enough time for real madrid in building the momentum and strengthen its mentality through winning some local games that will come earlier than the match against napoli.
Napoli needs only to be careful against real madrid. Madrid has always very good record even when it was playing away.

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