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Quote from: fachant on August 06, 2023, 09:54:09 AM

I am personally optimistic about the Barcelona team in the Champions League this time. Because this team has performed amazingly in La Liga last season. However, after watching a few matches this time, what I understand is that Barcelona will be very focused on the Champions League.

Real madrid has more disadvantages next season compared with barcelona.

- Old and underperform players
- Lost its best striker (Benzema contributed a lot last season)

It makes me feel that if real madrid may be trophyless in upcoming season. Im feeling if barcelona looks like superior compared with real madrid. The results from pre season matches were very disappointing for me as madrid fans. My expectation for real madrid especially josely and bellingham were too big.
Madrid can always rely upon vini. this guy is always becoming a player with most contribution to the club. Real madrid is also having garbage backs.

The result against juventus told me a lot of madrid really needs a new right back at this moment. Some players are losing their prime.

Vini and valverde were the only players that still consistent at this moment.

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Quote from: zaim7413 on August 06, 2023, 10:51:31 AM

League on average have a strong economy that supports teams to bring in quality players, it is easier for coaches to bring in the players they want because of strong economic support. Manchester City have proven that their economic power is able to improve the quality of the team by bringing in classy players. Guardiola's effect was also very influential in Manchester City's success last season, he who has experience winning the UCL trophy with Barcelona was able to develop the players that Manchester City has to achieve historic success for the club. This season there will be more tough opponents in the UCL, Manchester City will have difficulty defending the UCL trophy if they are not consistent in maintaining the quality of their games.

Just having enough money is not enough but we need to know the proper use of money. Manchester City has not only achieved so much success in exchange for money, the main reason for Manchester City's success is their team manager Pep Guardiola. Pep Guardiola is a very skilled man, firstly he was appointed as the manager of the team and he was given the freedom to buy players at will which is why he has been able to make this team so successful. If we only consider money then PSG is a complete failure because they have invested a lot of money just to do well in Champions League but they have not invested so much money to do well in Champions League so far the main reason is that they have recruited good quality players but no good quality,l. Could not assign manager. PSG would have been favorites for the Champions League if they had hired quality players as well as quality managers from the start.

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Getting the Champions League title is not as easy as other domestic leagues, the Champions League is a collection of great teams all over Europe so it will not be easy for Barcelona to achieve that dream even though they have brought their team to a great performance.

The Champions League has a different sensation and the mentality of coaches and players is still influential if they do not have deep experience in the UCL, I believe Barcelona this time will be better to go to UCL even though the previous season could only stop at the group stage.

Every coach's dream is to win UCL. For this, the economic strength of the team is also very important. Not every team, only one team can achieve this. Last year, Manchester City looked like an excellent team and they won the UCL. It's been a great season for Pep and we can see similar things happen this year. They will have tough opponents and UCL will again be the most watched tournament.

Strong clubs in the Champions League on average have a strong economy that supports teams to bring in quality players, it is easier for coaches to bring in the players they want because of strong economic support. Manchester City have proven that their economic power is able to improve the quality of the team by bringing in classy players. Guardiola's effect was also very influential in Manchester City's success last season, he who has experience winning the UCL trophy with Barcelona was able to develop the players that Manchester City has to achieve historic success for the club. This season there will be more tough opponents in the UCL, Manchester City will have difficulty defending the UCL trophy if they are not consistent in maintaining the quality of their games.

There is no doubt City's finances are very good when last time they managed to bring in Haaland and several other players to help contribute to getting the champions league trophy but it is true that if this player does not have high consistency it will be very difficult to become the defending champion in the champions league whereas every season the club others are also improving their performance to chase the champions league title like Arsenal currently which has the improvement to be able to compete with City and other big clubs.
This should put pressure on City that it not only about finances but also experience and a good strategy to be able to get another trophy in the champions league but to be honest I doubt if City can succeed in getting another cup because their performance is not the same as last season.

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Quote from: Hvdv on August 06, 2023, 02:09:45 AM

Quote from: salad daging on August 05, 2023, 02:46:33 PM

Getting the Champions League title is not as easy as other domestic leagues, the Champions League is a collection of great teams all over Europe so it will not be easy for Barcelona to achieve that dream even though they have brought their team to a great performance.

The Champions League has a different sensation and the mentality of coaches and players is still influential if they do not have deep experience in the UCL, I believe Barcelona this time will be better to go to UCL even though the previous season could only stop at the group stage.

Every coach's dream is to win UCL. For this, the economic strength of the team is also very important. Not every team, only one team can achieve this. Last year, Manchester City looked like an excellent team and they won the UCL. It's been a great season for Pep and we can see similar things happen this year. They will have tough opponents and UCL will again be the most watched tournament.

Strong clubs in the Champions League on average have a strong economy that supports teams to bring in quality players, it is easier for coaches to bring in the players they want because of strong economic support. Manchester City have proven that their economic power is able to improve the quality of the team by bringing in classy players. Guardiola's effect was also very influential in Manchester City's success last season, he who has experience winning the UCL trophy with Barcelona was able to develop the players that Manchester City has to achieve historic success for the club. This season there will be more tough opponents in the UCL, Manchester City will have difficulty defending the UCL trophy if they are not consistent in maintaining the quality of their games.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on August 06, 2023, 03:17:42 AM

on August 18th we would finally have the complete picture of this year's champions league, predicting which of these 20 teams will pass is very difficult because apart from a few simple pairings, there are many balanced matches, but I try to give my personal list of ten teams that they will go through.

Copenhagen
Aris-limassol
PSV
Dynamo-Zagreb
Klaksvik
Galatasaray
SC Braga
Marseille
Maccabi haifa
Rangers

Talking about odds, these are the teams that are supposed to win in the first leg: Copenhagen, Rakow Czestochowa, PSV Eindhoven, AEK Athens, Molde, Galatasaray, Braga, Marseille, Haifa and Rangers.
You mentioned Aris Limassol, I agree that they were impressive in the two legs of the second qualifying round so they might win vs Czestochowa. Zagreb is a good team and I suppose they can win vs Athens. For Molde and Klaksvik, I am not sure, the odds are way better in Molde side.

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Quote from: CLS63 on August 06, 2023, 03:33:17 AM

Barcelona aren't a weak team of course. They are just in a phase to make significant changes. They are playing with many young talents now. This is good from a point of view that creativity is always going to be at a high level. But creativity isn't enough by itself as well. This team need more team to get more experienced in the Champions League.

I'm thinking of another thing which is if it would be better for Xavi to make some changes in his system as for Champions League matches. Because maybe it isn't all about the players to do better. Tiki-taka football still works in the La Liga very well.

But as for the Champions League I feel like this system might not be a good choice in big matches.

Xavi doesn't have a lot of experience in his coaching career. But he already has a good achievement with Barcelona, they managed to win La Liga after a serious crisis. But I probably agree with you that the Champions League is a different level of cup, where the strongest clubs from all the other leagues play. Maybe in the future Xavi will have achievements here too.

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Quote from: hahay on August 06, 2023, 05:36:24 AM

Quote from: CLS63 on August 06, 2023, 03:33:17 AM

Barcelona aren't a weak team of course. They are just in a phase to make significant changes. They are playing with many young talents now. This is good from a point of view that creativity is always going to be at a high level. But creativity isn't enough by itself as well. This team need more team to get more experienced in the Champions League.

I'm thinking of another thing which is if it would be better for Xavi to make some changes in his system as for Champions League matches. Because maybe it isn't all about the players to do better. Tiki-taka football still works in the La Liga very well.

But as for the Champions League I feel like this system might not be a good choice in big matches.

Barcelona indeed is not a weak team, but I have to admit that Barcelona performance is still not strong enough to be able to go further in the Champions League. Also, basically the Barcelona squad is not completely about young talent because Barcelona also has some senior players with old age. Thus, it is hoped that the senior players owned by Barcelona can have a good impact on the young players there. But still, when it comes to the Champions League at least I still don't believe Xavi can deliver a consistent performance for Barcelona in the Champions League.

After some bad time now Barcelona is back at their best and now things are looking much better from them with few are feeling they are not good enough for the Champions League which is clearly not the case because now they have well experienced squad and their adjustment is also amazing which will help them for having better result in coming season predicting about winner is too early because this is event of surprises and shocking results, and we can expect anytime any upset can happen with any team right now Barcelona is not stronger contender for the title, but they can go through for this.

In presence of Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Inter Milan things are never been easy, but all is possible, and we can have another team with double like we have Real Madrid and Manchester City now we will have Barcelona and Bayern Munich as well.

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Quote from: babo on August 06, 2023, 09:51:19 AM

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Barcelona really made a decision to stick with La Liga in the last season. And they did very well in La Liga as well, becoming the champions. But that was possible because in La Liga they had only 2/3 opponents who could give them big problems. And those teams also were not able to perform very well. Only barcelona was the team which was really consistent. Barcelona did not even worry about the Champions League. That's why they found success in the La Liga.

But if barcelona is thinking about concentrating only in the Champions League, I don’t think it is going to be a good idea. Because the champions trophy is a lot more harder compared to the La Liga. So they might not win the Champions League and also failed to defend the La Liga title properly as well.

I totally agree with you because this happened in the previous season
Barcelona was kicked out of the Champions League quickly and dedicated themselves only to La Liga
Real Madrid, on the other hand, has run out of strength
- world championship happened
- older players
- double commitments
He failed to stem Barcelona's fury

I am personally optimistic about the Barcelona team in the Champions League this time. Because this team has performed amazingly in La Liga last season. However, after watching a few matches this time, what I understand is that Barcelona will be very focused on the Champions League.

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Quote from: Minecache on August 06, 2023, 09:22:16 AM

Barcelona really made a decision to stick with La Liga in the last season. And they did very well in La Liga as well, becoming the champions. But that was possible because in La Liga they had only 2/3 opponents who could give them big problems. And those teams also were not able to perform very well. Only barcelona was the team which was really consistent. Barcelona did not even worry about the Champions League. That's why they found success in the La Liga.

But if barcelona is thinking about concentrating only in the Champions League, I don’t think it is going to be a good idea. Because the champions trophy is a lot more harder compared to the La Liga. So they might not win the Champions League and also failed to defend the La Liga title properly as well.

I totally agree with you because this happened in the previous season
Barcelona was kicked out of the Champions League quickly and dedicated themselves only to La Liga
Real Madrid, on the other hand, has run out of strength
- world championship happened
- older players
- double commitments
He failed to stem Barcelona's fury

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Quote from: hahay on August 06, 2023, 05:36:24 AM

Quote from: CLS63 on August 06, 2023, 03:33:17 AM

Barcelona aren't a weak team of course. They are just in a phase to make significant changes. They are playing with many young talents now. This is good from a point of view that creativity is always going to be at a high level. But creativity isn't enough by itself as well. This team need more team to get more experienced in the Champions League.

I'm thinking of another thing which is if it would be better for Xavi to make some changes in his system as for Champions League matches. Because maybe it isn't all about the players to do better. Tiki-taka football still works in the La Liga very well.

But as for the Champions League I feel like this system might not be a good choice in big matches.

Barcelona indeed is not a weak team, but I have to admit that Barcelona performance is still not strong enough to be able to go further in the Champions League. Also, basically the Barcelona squad is not completely about young talent because Barcelona also has some senior players with old age. Thus, it is hoped that the senior players owned by Barcelona can have a good impact on the young players there. But still, when it comes to the Champions League at least I still don't believe Xavi can deliver a consistent performance for Barcelona in the Champions League.

Barcelona really made a decision to stick with La Liga in the last season. And they did very well in La Liga as well, becoming the champions. But that was possible because in La Liga they had only 2/3 opponents who could give them big problems. And those teams also were not able to perform very well. Only barcelona was the team which was really consistent. Barcelona did not even worry about the Champions League. That's why they found success in the La Liga.

But if barcelona is thinking about concentrating only in the Champions League, I don’t think it is going to be a good idea. Because the champions trophy is a lot more harder compared to the La Liga. So they might not win the Champions League and also failed to defend the La Liga title properly as well.

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Quote from: Jossque on August 06, 2023, 05:34:03 AM

Galatasaray managed to beat their opponent with a single goal in the rematch of the 2-2 draw and won the round.Galatasaray made some good transfers and they are still in the process of negotiations and they continue to improve the offensive line of their squad.Their next opponent will be Olimpija.I expect a draw as the worst result in the match they will play on the 8th of the month, 2 days later.It will not be an easy match for both teams, but a draw for Galatasaray will be a big advantage for Galatasaray to pass the round.

Zalgiris tried so hard to beat galatasaray but the one goal that being made by galatasaray has been securing a spot to go to the third qualifying round of UCL. The next match gonna be easy match compared with the match against zalgiris.
Galatasaray will play away against Olimpija. If they win easily, it will be without the same struggle as against Zalgiris. Galatasaray's odd was quite small for upcoming match.
I saw that if olimpija even weaker compared with zalgiris.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 05, 2023, 05:50:13 PM

Barcelona might not necessarily be the favorite to win the UEFA Champions League competition next season but I know that they'll surely be one of the strong contenders unlike many people think of them.
Looking at how well Barcelona manager Xavi Hernandez has groomed the team players since he took over, one can clearly see that he's made so much progress in finding the right style of football that matches the players and also know how to use the players. The addition of veteran player like IIkay Gundogan will further strengthen their sqaud and that's why I think that they'll do well in the competition next season

To be able to win a competition like the Champions League, barcelona will need to have a lot of things going for them. I know that barcelona is a good team right now. But they are certainly not the best who are going to the Champions League. Tactics does play a big part for a team in winning. But to win a competition like the Champions League there need to be good players in the team.

Without players who can change the momentum of a match at any given time, it is really hard to win the Champions League trophy. And that is the reason why i also think barcelona might not be able to win. The squad is good but there are better teams going into the competition.

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Quote from: Lillominato89 on August 06, 2023, 03:17:42 AM

Here's who I think will pass the shift. A question arises, does the new format of the Champions League start from this year?

No, the new format will be starting as of the 2024/25 season. I also thought it was this season first. It is going to be a pretty interesting format though. Because it will be like a league format but not exactly. Teams are going to be grouped with each other again so a team isn't going to play against all the rest of the teams in the league.

I think this is an unnecessary format. The current system is already working very well and teams have also been satisfied with it. Why do UEFA feel the need of making such change? This might not even be the only change for that season though. Because there is some rumour like UEFA will start to add Saudi Arabian teams into the Champions League also. This can make things even more interesting.

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Quote from: CLS63 on August 06, 2023, 03:33:17 AM

Barcelona aren't a weak team of course. They are just in a phase to make significant changes. They are playing with many young talents now. This is good from a point of view that creativity is always going to be at a high level. But creativity isn't enough by itself as well. This team need more team to get more experienced in the Champions League.

I'm thinking of another thing which is if it would be better for Xavi to make some changes in his system as for Champions League matches. Because maybe it isn't all about the players to do better. Tiki-taka football still works in the La Liga very well.

But as for the Champions League I feel like this system might not be a good choice in big matches.

Barcelona indeed is not a weak team, but I have to admit that Barcelona performance is still not strong enough to be able to go further in the Champions League. Also, basically the Barcelona squad is not completely about young talent because Barcelona also has some senior players with old age. Thus, it is hoped that the senior players owned by Barcelona can have a good impact on the young players there. But still, when it comes to the Champions League at least I still don't believe Xavi can deliver a consistent performance for Barcelona in the Champions League.

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Galatasaray managed to beat their opponent with a single goal in the rematch of the 2-2 draw and won the round.Galatasaray made some good transfers and they are still in the process of negotiations and they continue to improve the offensive line of their squad.Their next opponent will be Olimpija.I expect a draw as the worst result in the match they will play on the 8th of the month, 2 days later.It will not be an easy match for both teams, but a draw for Galatasaray will be a big advantage for Galatasaray to pass the round.

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Quote from: superman184 on August 06, 2023, 12:53:22 AM

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From some of the criteria you mention, I think Barcelona has it, such as the mentality of the players, coaches and others. They have competent experience in the Champions League competition. I want to add a little, apart from mentality, experience and compactness that influence, the last there is luck which will also determine the journey of a club in conquer the Champions League title, including Barcelona.

The experience and mentality of Barcelona's players in the Champions League do exist and it will also still be there next season at Barcelona, but in the last two seasons Barcelona have often failed in the Champions League which maybe it's just that there hasn't been a luck factor for Barcelona. And next season I also want to see if the experience and mentality of the Barcelona team as a whole are still there, because other teams have the same thing when they play in the Champions League.

When you want to discuss about experience, there is a factor that can never be left out and that is consistency.
If anyone is claiming to be experienced and they are not consistent in getting results the aftermath of the experience is not beneficial
Barcelona is experienced in playing La Liga titles their experience in Champions League seems to have expired since after the first team scattered due to the exit of Messi. Currently Barcelona has no experience in playing European titles and you can see the results why they exit very in the titles.

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Quote from: CLS63 on August 06, 2023, 03:33:17 AM

Barcelona aren't a weak team of course. They are just in a phase to make significant changes. They are playing with many young talents now. This is good from a point of view that creativity is always going to be at a high level. But creativity isn't enough by itself as well. This team need more team to get more experienced in the Champions League.

I'm thinking of another thing which is if it would be better for Xavi to make some changes in his system as for Champions League matches. Because maybe it isn't all about the players to do better. Tiki-taka football still works in the La Liga very well.
But as for the Champions League I feel like this system might not be a good choice in big matches.

Gradually Xavi stabilized the Barcelona team. A group that was almost destroyed is now very strong. Barcelona's performances have been very poor during Koeman's tenure as coach. But Xavi changed the situation. Barcelona now have a number of talented and experienced players in their squad. And they are able to consistently perform well. The Barcelona team will be the favorite for the La Liga title next season as well.

Barcelona's performance in last season's Champions League was poor. Xavi's focus was entirely on La Liga. But Barcelona will also want to do well in the Champions League next season. And I also think Xavi should change his match strategy. Because it will be difficult to win against Champions League teams with tiki-taka tactics. Because most of the teams in the Champions League are strong and most of the teams play an attacking strategy. So Xavi should change his match strategy.

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Barcelona aren't a weak team of course. They are just in a phase to make significant changes. They are playing with many young talents now. This is good from a point of view that creativity is always going to be at a high level. But creativity isn't enough by itself as well. This team need more team to get more experienced in the Champions League.

I'm thinking of another thing which is if it would be better for Xavi to make some changes in his system as for Champions League matches. Because maybe it isn't all about the players to do better. Tiki-taka football still works in the La Liga very well.

But as for the Champions League I feel like this system might not be a good choice in big matches.

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Quote from: Bobrox on August 05, 2023, 11:32:23 AM

Finally, twenty teams success lead to last UEFA Champion League qualifying round and they will play for first leg on Augustus 9 to 10 and second leg match will play one week later or Augustus 16 to 17. Have twenty teams plays in third round of UEFA Champion League qualifying and each winner automatically will placed on drawing group against teams have been qualify automatically like Manchester City, Arsenal, Manchester United and Newcastle United are Premier League teams participants.

Which one 10 teams will automatically play in UEFA Champion League season 2023/24?

Copenhagen vs Sparta-prague
Rakow-czestochowa vs Aris-limassol
psv-eindhoven vs sturm-graz
aek-athens vs dinamo-zagreb
Klaksvik vs Molde
Ljubljana vs galatasaray
SC Braga vs TSC Backa-topola
Panathinaikos vs Marseille
Slovan Bratislava vs Maccabi haifa
rangers vs Servette

on August 18th we would finally have the complete picture of this year's champions league, predicting which of these 20 teams will pass is very difficult because apart from a few simple pairings, there are many balanced matches, but I try to give my personal list of ten teams that they will go through.

Copenhagen
Aris-limassol
PSV
Dynamo-Zagreb
Klaksvik
Galatasaray
SC Braga
Marseille
Maccabi haifa
Rangers

Here's who I think will pass the shift. A question arises, does the new format of the Champions League start from this year?

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Quote from: salad daging on August 05, 2023, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: Falconer on August 05, 2023, 01:57:29 PM

I certainly agree that Xavi wants to bring Barcelona back to the peak of its glory in the Champions League by winning titles. But anyway, it must be difficult even though Barcelona's form so far has been better under Xavi. It doesn't matter how well Barcelona performed last season in La Liga, but the Champions League is very different.

Getting the Champions League title is not as easy as other domestic leagues, the Champions League is a collection of great teams all over Europe so it will not be easy for Barcelona to achieve that dream even though they have brought their team to a great performance.

The Champions League has a different sensation and the mentality of coaches and players is still influential if they do not have deep experience in the UCL, I believe Barcelona this time will be better to go to UCL even though the previous season could only stop at the group stage.

Every coach's dream is to win UCL. For this, the economic strength of the team is also very important. Not every team, only one team can achieve this. Last year, Manchester City looked like an excellent team and they won the UCL. It's been a great season for Pep and we can see similar things happen this year. They will have tough opponents and UCL will again be the most watched tournament.

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