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July 24, 2023, 11:33:24 AM

I am also happy that Barcelona can compete in the Champions League next season, but I don't really follow the Negreira case and I even think they were banned because of the previous FFP case. I think things are fine now and there's nothing to worry about. For one of the big European teams, it would be a shame if Barcelona did not participate in this competition and apart from that, of course, Blaugrana fans are already looking forward to their favorite team being able to achieve better results next season after the previous season, Barcelona always fell in the middle of the road.

Barcelona were playing last year too, but they made a really bad impression
let's hope that this year, being more stable, they will be able to show us the magic
I would very much like to see barcelona from its golden days
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July 24, 2023, 10:55:42 AM
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Thomas Tuchel has the ability to strengthen the Munich team. Munich now needs an experienced striker. If Harry Kane can be added to the Munich squad then we will get a great performance from Munich next season. And if Munich fails to add talented players in attack then it will be difficult for Munich to dominate the Champions League.
Exactly right, if Bayern Munich can sign an experienced striker, then of course they can get a great performance in the next season. But unfortunately, Tottenham will not change Kane price transfer fee if Bayern Munich want the services of Harry Kane. Also there is other news that Manchester United are still aiming Kane, if Bayern Munich want services of that man then they must act immediately for the third offer, considering that Kane is being targeted by another club.

Due to Manchester United's interest in Kane and my belief that if Manchester United offers what Tottenham wants, there will be no way for Manchester United to acquire Kane, Bayern Munich's delay will force another team to steal Kane from them. Kane is a very good striker and can play in that position for Bayern Munich, so if they truly want a striker player they shouldn't be motivated by money and should make every effort to sign him before Manchester United. Bayern Munich has many strong players who can perform well even in the upcoming season, but the way the team performed at the end of this one suggests that they need a good striker. The striker should be a player who can score goals.

The team should not worry about the money they will spend if they need a player and he is so wonderful that they won't regret it, even though they still have other items and players to purchase. It is better to spend money on good things than bad things.
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July 24, 2023, 10:25:02 AM
Exactly right, if Bayern Munich can sign an experienced striker, then of course they can get a great performance in the next season. But unfortunately, Tottenham will not change Kane price transfer fee if Bayern Munich want the services of Harry Kane. Also there is other news that Manchester United are still aiming Kane, if Bayern Munich want services of that man then they must act immediately for the third offer, considering that Kane is being targeted by another club.
It makes a lot of sense for Bayern Munich to make a third offer if another team is eyeing Kane now, because if an offer from another team can be bigger than Bayern Munich's previous offer, of course Bayern Munich must consider a third offer with an amount greater than or equal to the price made by Tottenham. Because if Bayern Munich really wants to have Kane, Bayern Munich should be able to prove its seriousness to make a third offer to Tottenham again.

Bayern Munich are of course very serious about their transfer plans for Kane, but they also have to consider the value for money for the Tottenham striker. If Tottenham's desired price is too high for Bayern Munich to agree to, then of course they will have to step back and think about other options. Bayern Munich are a big team and I think they will easily convince the best strikers to join them, but certainly not at too crazy a price.
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July 24, 2023, 10:17:43 AM
Exactly right, if Bayern Munich can sign an experienced striker, then of course they can get a great performance in the next season. But unfortunately, Tottenham will not change Kane price transfer fee if Bayern Munich want the services of Harry Kane. Also there is other news that Manchester United are still aiming Kane, if Bayern Munich want services of that man then they must act immediately for the third offer, considering that Kane is being targeted by another club.
It makes a lot of sense for Bayern Munich to make a third offer if another team is eyeing Kane now, because if an offer from another team can be bigger than Bayern Munich's previous offer, of course Bayern Munich must consider a third offer with an amount greater than or equal to the price made by Tottenham. Because if Bayern Munich really wants to have Kane, Bayern Munich should be able to prove its seriousness to make a third offer to Tottenham again.
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July 24, 2023, 09:44:42 AM
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The success that Manchester City achieved last season was the result of the hard work they have done so far, Pep Guardiola's role is certainly inseparable from the success achieved by Manchester City. I can't say Manchester City was the best team last season, but after seeing the reality and the results that Manchester City got in several competitions, people can draw conclusions with the results that have been achieved.
You don't have to admit that Manchester City were the best team last season but the world has recognized it since they won the treble. I admit that Manchester City were the best team in England and in Europe last season, but I'm sure some people will never admit that. Apart from all that, everyone is free to have an opinion even though Manchester City can prove it by winning the title.

Next season everything could be different so Manchester City will never have any guarantees of defending their title. All the teams that are participant of the Champions League have made preparations including signing several new players, so the competition will be even more difficult.
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July 24, 2023, 09:28:51 AM
Last season, there were indeed those who felt disappointed and happy about the title won by Manchester City and Arsenal's failure to win the Premier League. But basically they all fought according to their abilities, including Inter Milan's efforts in the Champions League even though in the end Inter Milan did not get the title there. I also agree with what you said where the surprise is not only in the Champions League, but in other leagues it can also happen next season.
I doubt if Manchester City would do another treble trophy season by next season. Next season will not be the same as last season. Every team had to prepare, work and sign in new players into their team so that they won't fall out of the title race as they did before. 
Every club and league can expect a competitive season next year. A certain club dominating them repeatedly is something that no club wants to experience. By next season, there will be a change in the titleholders, and Manchester City won't be declared the champion of the 2023–2024 premier league season.

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July 24, 2023, 09:00:54 AM
Yes I understand what you mean, by him joining Paris Saint Germain it was enough to raise money, yes even though it sacrificed his career which should in my opinion be more than what he is getting now. Moreover, he is also still very young and still has a long way to go. Indeed, I personally regret it when he failed to join one of the giants in La Liga or even in the Champions League. But I hope that if the opportunity comes again to him, he should not miss that great opportunity.
I believe that players like him will be many clubs who want him, but still he must decide what is best for him.

I am also one of those who find it sad that he decided against all those great other clubs and instead play in Ligue 1 way below his real potential. But I sometimes wonder whether we would say and think the same if he won the Champions League once or twice with PSG: They have had the chance when they played against Bayern Munich in the final. Would it then be any different?

The money is so crazy that I can understand when someone decides to play in Paris instead of Madrid. It is the time of the career where you have less options to make financial mistakes. He had to decide between his financial future and his recognition as one of the best players in the world. He has shown that he is one of the best when he played the World Cups, but he now also is one of the richest in the sport as well.
Yes, it would be different if they could win the competition that many clubs want, but what we see from Paris Siant Germain at the moment is far from that, which is why speculation that regrets Mbappe joining Paris Saint Germain is widely heard. Especially when he chose that he was one step away from joining Real Madrid, and also we see the privileges given by Paris Saint Germain are too much.
In the end, many were disappointed with him, even Paris Saint Germain itself. How harsh satire delivered by the fans.


But Mbappe isn't to blame for all of this as he did what everyone would have done if a club puts such a monster offer on the table. I guess he will be the fastet billionaire from soccer that the world has seen for a long time. Calling it outrageous is not even sufficient with the most recent offer, but we have seen in all of this that money doesn't easily buy the Champions League title. Guardiola always had one of the best teams in the world and he is the best coach in the world and yet it took him a decade to win that title again. But in terms of PSG I think it will be over for a while for them. It would be a huge surprise if they make it far in the Champions League next season.
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July 24, 2023, 08:43:13 AM
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Thomas Tuchel has the ability to strengthen the Munich team. Munich now needs an experienced striker. If Harry Kane can be added to the Munich squad then we will get a great performance from Munich next season. And if Munich fails to add talented players in attack then it will be difficult for Munich to dominate the Champions League.
Exactly right, if Bayern Munich can sign an experienced striker, then of course they can get a great performance in the next season. But unfortunately, Tottenham will not change Kane price transfer fee if Bayern Munich want the services of Harry Kane. Also there is other news that Manchester United are still aiming Kane, if Bayern Munich want services of that man then they must act immediately for the third offer, considering that Kane is being targeted by another club.
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July 24, 2023, 07:50:40 AM
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A transfer to Real Madrid will be an excellent one for Mbappe. This I mean is that Real Madrid can give Mbappe trophies and as well as money. Real Madrid is not a small club such that they will not be able to pay a good player like Mbappe handsomely.
If Mbappe really wants the Champions League title, the best place to go is Real Madrid because it is Real Madrid and Manchester City that has great chances of winning the Champions League. I would have included Bayern Munich but I am not so much confident of Tuchel's Bayern.
If PSG let Mbappe go then I'm sure Real Madrid will try their best to get him because a player like Mbappe is not easy to come by.
Mbappe is also unlikely to accept a much lower offer because big money is part of being a great footballer.
Yes, but it all comes back to Mbappe's decision whether he wants to play for a much lower fee.

He should never accept a lower fee,he is a superstar and as such he can only ask for super pay from Real Madrid or any other team that wants his services.Good players costs and superstar players cost a whole lot more so it would be not the wisest decision if Mbappe settle for less.We are seeing examples of Ronaldo and Messi who are near their end of their career asking astronomical amounts like 500 million Euros in 2 years for Ronaldo,since Mbappe is at his peak he should ask a whole lot more money because as I said he is a great player and settling for less is plain stupid.
Receiving a higher salary is definitely the hope of all football players including Mbappe but what I mean is that Real Madrid have to pay PSG a fairly high price to buy Mbappe and this is why Real Madrid slightly considered twice a few weeks ago when rumors circulated that Real Madrid made an offer to buy Mbappe.
If PSG want to lower Mbappe's price, I'm sure Real Madrid will definitely pursue buying him because Mbappe is a player with great potential for the long term.
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July 24, 2023, 05:59:04 AM
I think it's legitimate if he leaves Paris Saint Germain without thinking he owes the Parisian club. Because everything in the contract is something offered by Paris Saint Germain, and of course as a player who is offered all that he has the right to take it. I prefer to say he still appreciates Paris Saint Germain and tries to finish his contract first before he leaves. But would Paris Saint Germain let him leave without taking advantage?
Players like Mbappe will think he does not owe anything from PSG. He possibly thinks that his career can be the same if he moved to another club, not PSG, after leaving AS Monaco. He could be right and the contract with PSG does not have any term like if he could not help PSG to win Champions League, he will receive less salary so it's fair enough for him to leave when the contract ends.

I understand that it's fair enough from PSG side to think Mbappe owned them a lot but between a club and a player, there is only contract in between. If a contract expires and can not be renewed, a player will be a free agent and free to choose any club.
Yes there will always be a limit between the club and the player, which means there is no contract for him to keep playing his entire career at the club. For Paris Saint Germain I think it would be better if they sell this player in the near future, at least they can get the amount of money than they have to release without getting a penny. Although I understand that they will be a rich club that might not care about that, but they also have to remember that business in football cannot be separated, so it's better to do business at the last time. If they postpone it any longer, then other clubs will plan for when the player's contract expires.
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July 24, 2023, 05:55:58 AM
The main reason for Bayern Munich's elimination from the Champions League last season was their bad management decisions. They sacked their coach before a crucial Champions League match. They should have fired Nagelsmann at the end of the season. However, Thomas Tuchel has tried hard to stabilize Bayern Munich's performance. Players also need time to adapt to the new coach's match strategy. Bayern Munich were very lucky to win the title last season. However, Thomas Tuchel may be able to strengthen the Munich team next season. Because Tuchel is an experienced coach.
At that time Bayern Munich's management made a blunder decision in which Bayern Munich's management fired Nagelsmann when Bayern Munich were in a fairly important condition in the Champions League. This decision surprised the public and became a bad thing for bayern munich after the change of coach occurred. Well this season we will see How strong is Bayern munich in the Champions league where other big team teams have quite a good path of progress in increasing their strength in this transfer window.
For Tuchel he can become the right coach for Bayern Munich next season. We hope that this representative from the Bundesliga can advance to the final next season under Tuchel's tutelage. For now Bayern Munich is quite active in the transfer market because they want to bring in several players who can help the team in the Champions League next season.

Munich management had a conflict with Nagelsmann. Even so, Nagelsmann was doing quite well with Munich. Bayern Munich's performance was somewhat unstable. But Nagelsmann continued to try to stabilize the team. But at a crucial moment, the Munich management decided to fire Nagelsmann. Such a decision came as a surprise to Munich fans.

Thomas Tuchel has the ability to strengthen the Munich team. Munich now needs an experienced striker. If Harry Kane can be added to the Munich squad then we will get a great performance from Munich next season. And if Munich fails to add talented players in attack then it will be difficult for Munich to dominate the Champions League.
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July 24, 2023, 05:25:59 AM
Signing Mbappe is a big project for Real Madrid of course, because it is clear that if Mbappe plays for Real Madrid then Real Madrid will have a very good dominance. Because after all, basically Real Madrid are very used to forming star squads and of course, if Mbappe plays at Real Madrid it is not difficult for Real Madrid to get consistent and stable performance. But yes, if next season Real Madrid still can't sign Mbappe, then Real Madrid chance to destroy Manchester City dominance will still be difficult.
Its not easy for signing Mbappe in this summer transfer window, Saudi Pro League teams Al - Hilal reported open proposal bid offer 300 million euro and will give fantastic salary until 173 million euro each years. Real Madrid have fighting with Saudi teams if want sign Mbappe because Madrid won't pay more than 200 euro for fees transfer.

Have Mbappe or not in Real Madrid squad next season I don't difficult for destroying Manchester City dominance in UEFA Champion League, Madrid still have many star players from Vinicus Junior, Jude Bellingham and Arda Guler who are on the young age. I don't think Madrid want pay much fees transfer for signing Mbappe and prefer waiting until that player become free agent next season if not reach deal for extending contract with PSG.
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July 24, 2023, 04:58:44 AM
The success that Manchester City achieved last season was the result of the hard work they have done so far, Pep Guardiola's role is certainly inseparable from the success achieved by Manchester City. I can't say Manchester City was the best team last season, but after seeing the reality and the results that Manchester City got in several competitions, people can draw conclusions with the results that have been achieved.
In a match unexpected things always happen, Inter Milan has played well throughout the match, but the result of not being good at taking advantage of opportunities made Manchester City take advantage of the mistakes made by Inter Milan players. Surprise after surprise will return this season, the clubs that failed last season have reorganized their squad to face the challenges of the new season.
Those who don't like Manchester City must say that Man City was very lucky in the UCL final match against Inter and then, several opportunities were created but Inter were really unlucky, the teams that rearranged their squad this season definitely targeted to shift the dominance of Man City, especially in the EPL, Man Utd and Arsenal continue to relentlessly have ambitions to destroy Man City's dominance. if madrid succeeds in buying Mbappe then I am very sure madrid will again dominate the UCL.

It cannot be denied that Inter Milan played well enough in the final. But the important thing is that Guardiola's men did not make any mistakes in this match. Inter Milan launched several great attacks but Manchester City's players managed to fend them all off. The bond between the Manchester City players was good and the players were very confident. This confidence helped them become champions.

Real Madrid is always the favorite for the Champions League. If Manchester City and Madrid hadn't met in the semi-final last season, we might have seen the final between these two teams. However, if Mbappe is included in the team, Madrid will be even stronger. The chances of winning the Champions League will also increase.
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July 24, 2023, 04:55:04 AM
The success that Manchester City achieved last season was the result of the hard work they have done so far, Pep Guardiola's role is certainly inseparable from the success achieved by Manchester City. I can't say Manchester City was the best team last season, but after seeing the reality and the results that Manchester City got in several competitions, people can draw conclusions with the results that have been achieved.

In a match unexpected things always happen, Inter Milan has played well throughout the match, but the result of not being good at taking advantage of opportunities made Manchester City take advantage of the mistakes made by Inter Milan players. Surprise after surprise will return this season, the clubs that failed last season have reorganized their squad to face the challenges of the new season.

Those who don't like Manchester City must say that Man City was very lucky in the UCL final match against Inter and then, several opportunities were created but Inter were really unlucky, the teams that rearranged their squad this season definitely targeted to shift the dominance of Man City, especially in the EPL, Man Utd and Arsenal continue to relentlessly have ambitions to destroy Man City's dominance. if madrid succeeds in buying Mbappe then I am very sure madrid will again dominate the UCL.

Signing Mbappe is a big project for Real Madrid of course, because it is clear that if Mbappe plays for Real Madrid then Real Madrid will have a very good dominance. Because after all, basically Real Madrid are very used to forming star squads and of course, if Mbappe plays at Real Madrid it is not difficult for Real Madrid to get consistent and stable performance. But yes, if next season Real Madrid still can't sign Mbappe, then Real Madrid chance to destroy Manchester City dominance will still be difficult.
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July 24, 2023, 04:44:23 AM
Those who don't like Manchester City must say that Man City was very lucky in the UCL final match against Inter and then, several opportunities were created but Inter were really unlucky, the teams that rearranged their squad this season definitely targeted to shift the dominance of Man City, especially in the EPL, Man Utd and Arsenal continue to relentlessly have ambitions to destroy Man City's dominance. if madrid succeeds in buying Mbappe then I am very sure madrid will again dominate the UCL.
People who think Manchester City are lucky in the final match against Inter Milan not not like Manchester City but they do not understand the game of football.

The dominance of Manchester City in EPL does not need to be broken because it will be stopped later.
Last season the dominance of Manchester City was unstoppable because their game was really good.
Next season, Manchester City will not be as smooth as last season both at UCL and EPL.
My analysis at UCL, Real Madrid candidates to be championed. There is no need to be mbappe in the squad so that Madrid can be the strongest candidate but their preparedness has been seen.
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July 24, 2023, 03:48:02 AM
The success that Manchester City achieved last season was the result of the hard work they have done so far, Pep Guardiola's role is certainly inseparable from the success achieved by Manchester City. I can't say Manchester City was the best team last season, but after seeing the reality and the results that Manchester City got in several competitions, people can draw conclusions with the results that have been achieved.

In a match unexpected things always happen, Inter Milan has played well throughout the match, but the result of not being good at taking advantage of opportunities made Manchester City take advantage of the mistakes made by Inter Milan players. Surprise after surprise will return this season, the clubs that failed last season have reorganized their squad to face the challenges of the new season.

Those who don't like Manchester City must say that Man City was very lucky in the UCL final match against Inter and then, several opportunities were created but Inter were really unlucky, the teams that rearranged their squad this season definitely targeted to shift the dominance of Man City, especially in the EPL, Man Utd and Arsenal continue to relentlessly have ambitions to destroy Man City's dominance. if madrid succeeds in buying Mbappe then I am very sure madrid will again dominate the UCL.
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July 24, 2023, 03:32:25 AM
I was happy about the tittle won by Manchester City, they performed well and they really deserved the win

Manchester City performed well in all the leagues they participated in last season because pep Guardiola tried his best for Manchester City last season and they won wan three leagues last season which is the FA cup, premier league and the champions league, don’t be surprised that Pep Guardiola will also want to repeat the same thing next season.
You can play well in many competitions but to win all of them, it's not easy. That's why only Manchester United and Manchester City managed to be treble winners so far in history of Premier League clubs.

I think it's legitimate if he leaves Paris Saint Germain without thinking he owes the Parisian club. Because everything in the contract is something offered by Paris Saint Germain, and of course as a player who is offered all that he has the right to take it. I prefer to say he still appreciates Paris Saint Germain and tries to finish his contract first before he leaves. But would Paris Saint Germain let him leave without taking advantage?
Players like Mbappe will think he does not owe anything from PSG. He possibly thinks that his career can be the same if he moved to another club, not PSG, after leaving AS Monaco. He could be right and the contract with PSG does not have any term like if he could not help PSG to win Champions League, he will receive less salary so it's fair enough for him to leave when the contract ends.

I understand that it's fair enough from PSG side to think Mbappe owned them a lot but between a club and a player, there is only contract in between. If a contract expires and can not be renewed, a player will be a free agent and free to choose any club.
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July 24, 2023, 03:16:08 AM
Finally, a statement from UEFA if barcelona will not be banned from UCL next season already revealed by some media. Some media have revealed it today. The UEFA ban from UCL was a nightmare for many Catalan fans. The letter was coming from UEFA itself if barcelona will not be banned in upcoming UCL.
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arcelona have reportedly been informed this Friday that they will be allowed to compete in the next edition of the Champions League, in the 2023/24 season. Several reports in the Catalan media claim that Joan Laporta and his board received this news from UEFA on Friday, with European football's governing body having completed their analysis of all the information related to the 'Negreira Case'.
https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2023/06/30/649f0efeca4741d1048b459b.html

We shall wait for further announcement that will be made by laporta soon. The claim was still coming from media but there's no official statement was coming from barcelona. Glad to see UEFA was taking such a decision for not banning barcelona.
I remember if barcelona's official was convincing themselves if the ban from UEFA was just a rumor. If a letter from UEFA will be true and barcelona will not have burden from potentially to be banned by UEFA.

I am also happy that Barcelona can compete in the Champions League next season, but I don't really follow the Negreira case and I even think they were banned because of the previous FFP case. I think things are fine now and there's nothing to worry about. For one of the big European teams, it would be a shame if Barcelona did not participate in this competition and apart from that, of course, Blaugrana fans are already looking forward to their favorite team being able to achieve better results next season after the previous season, Barcelona always fell in the middle of the road.
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July 24, 2023, 01:42:49 AM
Last season, there were indeed those who felt disappointed and happy about the title won by Manchester City and Arsenal's failure to win the Premier League. But basically they all fought according to their abilities, including Inter Milan's efforts in the Champions League even though in the end Inter Milan did not get the title there. I also agree with what you said where the surprise is not only in the Champions League, but in other leagues it can also happen next season.
I was happy about the tittle won by Manchester City, they performed well and they really deserved the win, but I was just disappointed in Arsenal, because I didn’t know their performance is going to drop and they will start performing poorly when they were having just few matches left to go, Arsenal lose and draw the matches which they are suppose to have won which cost them not winning the league. Manchester City performed well in all the leagues they participated in last season because pep Guardiola tried his best for Manchester City last season and they won wan three leagues last season which is the FA cup, premier league and the champions league, don’t be surprised that Pep Guardiola will also want to repeat the same thing next season.
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July 24, 2023, 12:59:47 AM
Yes I understand what you mean, by him joining Paris Saint Germain it was enough to raise money, yes even though it sacrificed his career which should in my opinion be more than what he is getting now. Moreover, he is also still very young and still has a long way to go. Indeed, I personally regret it when he failed to join one of the giants in La Liga or even in the Champions League. But I hope that if the opportunity comes again to him, he should not miss that great opportunity.
I believe that players like him will be many clubs who want him, but still he must decide what is best for him.

I am also one of those who find it sad that he decided against all those great other clubs and instead play in Ligue 1 way below his real potential. But I sometimes wonder whether we would say and think the same if he won the Champions League once or twice with PSG: They have had the chance when they played against Bayern Munich in the final. Would it then be any different?

The money is so crazy that I can understand when someone decides to play in Paris instead of Madrid. It is the time of the career where you have less options to make financial mistakes. He had to decide between his financial future and his recognition as one of the best players in the world. He has shown that he is one of the best when he played the World Cups, but he now also is one of the richest in the sport as well.
Yes, it would be different if they could win the competition that many clubs want, but what we see from Paris Siant Germain at the moment is far from that, which is why speculation that regrets Mbappe joining Paris Saint Germain is widely heard. Especially when he chose that he was one step away from joining Real Madrid, and also we see the privileges given by Paris Saint Germain are too much.
In the end, many were disappointed with him, even Paris Saint Germain itself. How harsh satire delivered by the fans.



I believe Mbappe will have put into consideration so many things before he still want to remain in PSG. The pay is fat and he is still the most expensive player in the world. He believes that he still owes PSG and needs to complete his contract with them. He is a superstar that has a good potential and I know that PSG wouldn't let him go easily.

Mbappe should start thinking on how to win UCL and also win other trophies so that he will have the dreams of playing in Real Madrid after the end of his contract with PSG. Other clubs needs his skill and contributions to the team work and he shouldn't just be static in his football career.
I think it's legitimate if he leaves Paris Saint Germain without thinking he owes the Parisian club. Because everything in the contract is something offered by Paris Saint Germain, and of course as a player who is offered all that he has the right to take it. I prefer to say he still appreciates Paris Saint Germain and tries to finish his contract first before he leaves. But would Paris Saint Germain let him leave without taking advantage?
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