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Quote from: ginsan on July 17, 2023, 05:08:57 AM

Pep Guardiola became a coach who was very influential for the player's interest in joining them. I think seeing the pattern of Pep Guardiola tactics in this transfer window doesn't mean that they are more silent in the sense that they move more smoothly in their approach to signing players. Yes, the players that will be released by Manchester City are the key players that brought Manchester City to a treble winner last season.

If you look at the existing strengths, I think the departure of several key players will not have a big impact on Manchester City strength in the next season. But at least their competing teams will be able to take advantage of this to perform better when dealing with them either in the EPL or the Champions League next season.

if you check pep has had a very good record for quite some time now and the only problem I have with Pep is that he gets worried too much despite being a great coach but I understand that feeling, being a coach is not as easy as it looks the pressure is always high during every ongoing matches, during this transfer window you will notice that pep is not doing too much, he always know what step to take at a particular time, his strategy always works for him, and Manchester city letting players go does not really affect their performance I always envy them, of the sincere truth Manchester city is good.

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Quote from: Distraction on July 17, 2023, 07:33:23 AM

I think it is still early to bet on Champions League matches from this round. I'm speaking for myself at least because there are still so many teams that I don't have any idea about. I tried to bet on such teams in the past and it didn't end up well for me. Grin

It feels safer to bet on the matches of more known teams than these for me.

This is the last season with the current Champions League format indeed. I wish it didn't change because I find the new one ridiculous. You are in a league-like system but you don't even play with all the teams there. I don't know how fair this system is going to be but let's see. If it doesn't work out well they would return to the previous version I guess.

bet only on teams that you know their strengths. and you can predict your victory better. don't waste money on bets that are hard to guess.

regarding the new system in this competition, it increases the number of clubs that will be participating and with the League format, maybe it will be more attractive for every club. but we haven't seen which one will be more efficient we can see how it will be successfully implemented and successful or will leave controversy at the end of the season.

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I think it is still early to bet on Champions League matches from this round. I'm speaking for myself at least because there are still so many teams that I don't have any idea about. I tried to bet on such teams in the past and it didn't end up well for me. Grin

It feels safer to bet on the matches of more known teams than these for me.

This is the last season with the current Champions League format indeed. I wish it didn't change because I find the new one ridiculous. You are in a league-like system but you don't even play with all the teams there. I don't know how fair this system is going to be but let's see. If it doesn't work out well they would return to the previous version I guess.

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Pre-season games are a platform for young players to showcase their talents and it's a good opportunity for them to show that they deserve to be promoted to the senior team eventually so Manchester United try out a lot of young and new players and it's natural that it's very unfamiliar. But when they see the opponents will be both big clubs IMO they will try to maximize the players and will be a little more serious because even though it is a friendly match there is still prestige that must be maintained and as a reference about them if they meet them again in an official match. friendly matches for big clubs are the same as opening greetings I think before they can compete more seriously in the competition.

I call the pre-season match a trial match for several teams who are trying to appoint their new players or young players to perform well and if the performance is not optimal the coach will try to find other ways to maximize the performance of these new players. On the one hand, in this pre-season match, several teams can look for the best formation pattern to set in each match. Usually, the coaches look at their attack and defense. If the formation is still ineffective, they will change the formation for the better.
even though this is just like a friendly match but for me this is the initial match of strength.

Changing strategies and overhauling the contents of the starting line-up, or even trying players in new positions will be done by coaches to find the best formula in their strategy. They may have a strategy that they don't show in pre-season matches, because they usually have an ultimate strategy that they don't want the opposing club to see, so they prefer to keep it and apply it in closed training or trial matches.
It's flight time, yes it's only a pre-season match, but for young players or players who don't have the opportunity to play in competitions this is something very important.
And the most important thing is that the coaching staff may discover new potential from a player that they can use as a weapon later.

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Quote from: marcous on July 16, 2023, 10:24:34 PM

With the status of the defending champion and the influence of Pep Guardiola, it will make it easier for Man City to recruit their target players. It seems that Pep will rejuvenate his squad by slowly releasing players who are approaching 30 years or more, maybe also the tactical differences that Pep will apply next season will be different from before. So the option of releasing old players and recruiting players according to their tactics is a step that must be taken, City's game will automatically be different and not easy for other teams to guess.

Yangel Herrera, Ilkay Gundogan, Nahuel Bustos, Benjamin Mendy are players who have been officially released in the current trade market, it is possible that Walker, Mahrez and Bernardo Silva will follow them. Whatever happens to their transfer market, many say that Man City is at the top of the list of favorites to win, either the EPL or the Champions League.

Pep Guardiola became a coach who was very influential for the player's interest in joining them. I think seeing the pattern of Pep Guardiola tactics in this transfer window doesn't mean that they are more silent in the sense that they move more smoothly in their approach to signing players. Yes, the players that will be released by Manchester City are the key players that brought Manchester City to a treble winner last season.

If you look at the existing strengths, I think the departure of several key players will not have a big impact on Manchester City strength in the next season. But at least their competing teams will be able to take advantage of this to perform better when dealing with them either in the EPL or the Champions League next season.

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The coach of Manchester City team is an experienced person who is able to prepare his team by studying other teams every season. Besides, the kind of players that are in the team are trying to take themselves to a unique and extraordinary level every day.

Not only the coach but also the Manchester City players have proven to have strong defensive playing skills and sharp attackers so that, coupled with the training of coach Pep Guardiola, Manchester City can become the strongest football club.
Anyone who later competes against Manchester City must have a feeling of anxiety about defeat.
For next summer, many football observers predict that Manchester City still has a big chance to be able to win a treble winner or double winner again.

Manchester city and Guardiola have made a very good union and they both understand each other. Where I respected the decision and expertise of Guardiola is how he managed to convert a central defender to a defensive midfielder and he in the same season became the best defensive midfielder in Europe. I am talking about John Stones.
Guardiola is a coach that does not only study his team, but also studies his opponent's team more than they do. He is so ambitious and could win the Champions League back to back.

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Of course and Manchester city is still the favorite to win next season, Manchester city's strength is very evenly distributed and Pep Guardiola has built this team very well even it will be able to survive and for a long time, a team that already has character will find it difficult to fall and they are likely to big can maintain performance even though many players come or go, this team is no longer dependent on just a few players and as long as Pep Guardiola is still the coach of Manchester city then the brand will always be strong.

Other big clubs will have to play against Pep Guardiola team which have been reaching their highest performance and they will be able to win another Champions League in the next 2 to 3 seasons before this generation comes to their downside.

At Etihad, Pep Guardiola don't lack of money so he will be able to buy new players and get a long plan with them. It is different than with his time in Barcelona and Bayern Munich as in Manchester City, he is given a bigger budget for transfer and don't have to worry that he can not have enough money in the transfer market.

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The loss of several important players did not really affect Manchester City performance this season, Pep Guardiola will certainly try to give the best for the team he leads. There is no need to doubt the genius of Pep Guardiola, he has proven to all football fans with the achievements he has successfully presented to his team.
Guardiola will try to find new players who can replace some of the vacant positions left by his former players after choosing to go to another club. It is not difficult for Guardiola to find new players because he really understands the character of players who can be trusted to be an important part of his team.

They might have hiccups at the season beginning, in early months but they will return to their best after 2 or 3 months when Pep Guardiola and his lads can adapt to changes in tactics and players in their squad. Pep is very flexible with tactics and he can upgrade his players with new positions for them like Cancelo, John Stones. Together, Pep upgrades his tactics and his players upgrade themselves, Manchester City become a stronger team with time, like unbeatable in Premier League since the last 6 seasons. Now, they are bringing such domination to Champions League.

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Quote from: Yurkov on July 16, 2023, 12:36:01 AM

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The coach of Manchester City team is an experienced person who is able to prepare his team by studying other teams every season. Besides, the kind of players that are in the team are trying to take themselves to a unique and extraordinary level every day.

Not only the coach but also the Manchester City players have proven to have strong defensive playing skills and sharp attackers so that, coupled with the training of coach Pep Guardiola, Manchester City can become the strongest football club.
Anyone who later competes against Manchester City must have a feeling of anxiety about defeat.
For next summer, many football observers predict that Manchester City still has a big chance to be able to win a treble winner or double winner again.

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Quote from: borovichok on July 16, 2023, 11:09:08 PM

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The players that Manchester City have released have all been in good form but the main reason for their release may be their age. Because older players are more likely to get injured, Manchester City may be leaving older players out of the squad, thinking about injuries and the effect of age on performance. As they are the defending champions, they are paying more attention to new players to maintain their status. Some of the players who have been released and some of the players who are about to be released have already found their replacements but then released those players so I think Manchester City fans have no reason to worry about this. Since Guardiwala is in charge of Man City, I hope he will do well for Manchester City.

We are ready to see what Manchester City can offer in next UEFA Champions League. Manchester city lose most of their crucial players this summer, Pep Guardiola watching the possible outcomes, he's making the best decision for the cityzens. Signing vibrant young players this summer, and these would served as longterm project for him and the club. When I say Guardiola is a genius, ofcourse we ought not to argue because he just proof it last season with winning a treble and stand out to he famous and successful with the present achievement he acquired.

The loss of several important players did not really affect Manchester City performance this season, Pep Guardiola will certainly try to give the best for the team he leads. There is no need to doubt the genius of Pep Guardiola, he has proven to all football fans with the achievements he has successfully presented to his team.
Guardiola will try to find new players who can replace some of the vacant positions left by his former players after choosing to go to another club. It is not difficult for Guardiola to find new players because he really understands the character of players who can be trusted to be an important part of his team.

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Manchester United are way better than the time before Erik ten Hag. Having a top four finish in the English Premier League is a good progress in his first year here already. Manchester United will be expected to be more competitive this season of course. They need to be more competitive in their domestic league and do their best in the Champions League too.

As the Champions League will have a new format for the rounds before knockout stages I wonder how things will go. For example Manchester United will have a second chance for making it to last 16 if they don't manage finish in top 8 first. Maybe this format can help us watch some surprising teams making it to later rounds in the tournament as well.

I am not sure, when Ole was there they ended second one season if I am wrong, that was during Oles time and before Ronaldo came in, that should be understandable that they had a great season before Ronaldo and before Erik Tan Hag as well. Looking at the team now, it's much worse than that, do you see them be second? I do not see them becoming second this season neither, I feel like they will fight for a top four finish but second seems like beyond what they will be capable of doing.

All in all it looks like we are going to have a season where it will take a while before United could get bigger and back to where they used to be. Sure Ole had some troubles one way or another and that's why people disliked him, but he had some good seasons for sure.

That was a season with Ole, yeah. It was the 2020/21 season in which they finished the EPL as 2nd. But not much time after we have witnessed the downfall of Manchester United with the same coach. I don't know if the same scenario would happen with Erik ten Hag as well while everything is going in the positive direction but I hope not.

They continue to strengthen the squad more and we will see its results next season. The EPL can be more challenging if teams like Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham also enter the race for top four seriously. The Champions League will also be important for the board as they would expect a qualification from the group stage.

By the way I knew it like this new format was going to be on as of this season but it looks like it is as of the 2024/25 season. Grin

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Quote from: rendravolt on July 16, 2023, 11:21:17 PM

Manchester city will still feel dangerous despite losing several players this summer and Pep Guardiola need not be confused as his squad depth will remain the same for next season. Even if we look at the list of reserve players in Manchester City, there are still names like Phil Foden, Julian Alvarez and several other players who will help Manchester City to defend this title.

Manchester city's strength will not experience very significant changes and could even be almost the same as the previous season. Because I also think that what you said is true, especially after seeing a number of reserve players in Manchester city. It's clear that Manchester city will still be very strong next season as you said, both in the Premier League and in the Champions League.

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Maybe Pep Guardiola also has to add more players, especially for the midfield because it is clear that this line needs the most regeneration at this time. Talking about Pep Guardiola's career, maybe there is no coach who can match his record of successfully bringing two different clubs to win the treble winner.

Players for midfield deserve to be added by Manchester City for next season, because the midfield is also a very important line for the team to strengthen. But if you talk about the successful record of a coach, there are still very many other coaches who are more successful than Pep Guardiola. You can search the data on the internet to see comparisons and records that have been inscribed by several coaches who are very well known in the world of football.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 17, 2023, 02:26:45 AM

Pre-season games are a platform for young players to showcase their talents and it's a good opportunity for them to show that they deserve to be promoted to the senior team eventually so Manchester United try out a lot of young and new players and it's natural that it's very unfamiliar. But when they see the opponents will be both big clubs IMO they will try to maximize the players and will be a little more serious because even though it is a friendly match there is still prestige that must be maintained and as a reference about them if they meet them again in an official match. friendly matches for big clubs are the same as opening greetings I think before they can compete more seriously in the competition.

I call the pre-season match a trial match for several teams who are trying to appoint their new players or young players to perform well and if the performance is not optimal the coach will try to find other ways to maximize the performance of these new players. On the one hand, in this pre-season match, several teams can look for the best formation pattern to set in each match. Usually, the coaches look at their attack and defense. If the formation is still ineffective, they will change the formation for the better.
even though this is just like a friendly match but for me this is the initial match of strength.

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Maybe the Champions League group stage hasn't started yet but Manchester City are already favoured very highly for the title by bookmakers as usual. There is a significant level of gap between them and the others there but I don't get surprised with that of course. In the end Manchester City have the most qualified and complete squad among all the others.
But of course the squad by itself isn't enough to win titles. We have seen its example for Manchester City for many seasons. They hardly managed to get their first CL title finally after all these years. Now the important point is to maintain this success as much as possible.
Who knows maybe one day Manchester City might be the one to leave Real Madrid's record behind. But I'm not saying it by believing in it so much because the gap between the number of titles they achieved is huge. Grin

Manchester city has displayed well in the last Europa league competition, and they are about to maintain the same strategies so that they will be able to achieve the title again to prove to the whole world that they remain the strongest team among other teams in the Europa league tournament. I believe, Manchester city coach will do more work in this summer to work on some players that are not more active in their position so that there will not be challenges through out the tournament next season. Based on the moved of Manchester city in some seasons now showed that they have many titles to win to top other teams because their management are willing to maintain their Potential players.

Last season was a memorable season for Manchester City. They won the Premier League title. Also won the Champions League title for the first time. Manchester City's squad has been very consistent since the start of the season. The team won two important titles due to consistently good performances. I think Guardiola probably won't make too many changes to his squad next season. Because Manchester City already has a great squad. A perfect squad. The team has a lot of talented and experienced players. And if these players are able to perform well in the next season, Manchester City has a higher chance of winning the Premier League title next season.

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What I'm looking forward to now is the pre-season games that the big clubs will have, especially those who will be in the Champions League next season. For me pre-season matches are very important to measure and test the strategies they will apply in the competition later, also I want to see the game of new players who have just joined the club club.
In pre-season matches, all strengths will be tried, including seeing the ability of players who will be the second tier later, who knows they will be able to show a good game and eventually be able to penetrate the main squad.

Of course all fans will monitor the team they support playing in this pre-season match. We have already seen Manchester United win a friendly match against Leeds United where Manchester United were able to secure their first win in this pre-season game. And the goals created by Manchester United came from second layer players, namely Joe Hugill and Noam Emeran, where these two players were able to bring the Red Devils to win the match against Leeds United. I think their names are still quite foreign to our ears because they haven't been able to break into the main red devil squad.

Pre-season games are a platform for young players to showcase their talents and it's a good opportunity for them to show that they deserve to be promoted to the senior team eventually so Manchester United try out a lot of young and new players and it's natural that it's very unfamiliar. But when they see the opponents will be both big clubs IMO they will try to maximize the players and will be a little more serious because even though it is a friendly match there is still prestige that must be maintained and as a reference about them if they meet them again in an official match. friendly matches for big clubs are the same as opening greetings I think before they can compete more seriously in the competition.

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Bayern Munich managed to perform well in the Champions League this season, but ultimately failed to come close to winning the title. But Manchester City is truly a complete team. It's worth believing that this team will surprise next season.

If Manchester City can perform quite well again next season in the Champions League, I don't think it will be a surprise because Manchester City still has enough strength to make itself strong in the Champions League with the players' abilities that are still good. As for Bayern Munich, almost every season the team always qualify for the Champions League, although they don't always win the Champions League.

Only a few clubs can impress in every season in the Champions League especially when they won the previous season, sometimes there will be a decrease in performance although it is not impossible for Manchester City to impress again in the new season, although it is reported that several core players who bring they won the title will leave the club, what has been confirmed is team captain Ilkay Gündogan to Barcelona, then there are other names Bernardo Silva and also Riyad Mahrez but there is no certainty about the last two names.
With Pep Guardiola there maybe the changes will not be significant, what City has to watch out for is that other clubs are preparing themselves to be better later and that will be the biggest threat for Manchester City to defend their title later, if Manchester City manages to defend the title, of course, it was a special achievement for a club that won it for the first time but could do it twice in a row.

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We are getting very clothes to the continuation of first qualifying round of UCL. The second leg gonna be happening very soon. The opening match for second leg will be between struga and zalgiris. Zalgiris performed so badly when it was hosting the game against struga in the first leg.
Zalgiris still becomes favorite to win the game in this match even though struga gonna be hosting the second league. The result from this match is very hard to predict but im sure zalgiris gonna win with small scores or through penalty.

I refrain myself in taking a part in this match. It's caused by the risk is very high. The match between maccabi vs hamrun will become the easiest match to predict. Maccabi gonna win the game easily. I would like to take the match that has biggest probability to win.

Hacken vs new saints may also have the same result like the first leg. Farul was able winning the first leg with very small score. Sheriff has more experience in competing in UCL qualifying round compared with farul.
Sheriff will be facing tough game against farul. Farul will not be trying to take the advantage by having more aggregate compared with sheriff.

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Maybe the Champions League group stage hasn't started yet but Manchester City are already favoured very highly for the title by bookmakers as usual. There is a significant level of gap between them and the others there but I don't get surprised with that of course. In the end Manchester City have the most qualified and complete squad among all the others.

But of course the squad by itself isn't enough to win titles. We have seen its example for Manchester City for many seasons. They hardly managed to get their first CL title finally after all these years. Now the important point is to maintain this success as much as possible.

Who knows maybe one day Manchester City might be the one to leave Real Madrid's record behind. But I'm not saying it by believing in it so much because the gap between the number of titles they achieved is huge. Grin

Manchester city has displayed well in the last Europa league competition, and they are about to maintain the same strategies so that they will be able to achieve the title again to prove to the whole world that they remain the strongest team among other teams in the Europa league tournament. I believe, Manchester city coach will do more work in this summer to work on some players that are not more active in their position so that there will not be challenges through out the tournament next season. Based on the moved of Manchester city in some seasons now showed that they have many titles to win to top other teams because their management are willing to maintain their Potential players.

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The players that Manchester City have released have all been in good form but the main reason for their release may be their age. Because older players are more likely to get injured, Manchester City may be leaving older players out of the squad, thinking about injuries and the effect of age on performance. As they are the defending champions, they are paying more attention to new players to maintain their status. Some of the players who have been released and some of the players who are about to be released have already found their replacements but then released those players so I think Manchester City fans have no reason to worry about this. Since Guardiwala is in charge of Man City, I hope he will do well for Manchester City.

We are ready to see what Manchester City can offer in next UEFA Champions League. Manchester city lose most of their crucial players this summer, Pep Guardiola watching the possible outcomes, he's making the best decision for the cityzens. Signing vibrant young players this summer, and these would served as longterm project for him and the club. When I say Guardiola is a genius, ofcourse we ought not to argue because he just proof it last season with winning a treble and stand out to he famous and successful with the present achievement he acquired.

Manchester city will still feel dangerous despite losing several players this summer and Pep Guardiola need not be confused as his squad depth will remain the same for next season. Even if we look at the list of reserve players in Manchester City, there are still names like Phil Foden, Julian Alvarez and several other players who will help Manchester City to defend this title.

Maybe Pep Guardiola also has to add more players, especially for the midfield because it is clear that this line needs the most regeneration at this time. Talking about Pep Guardiola's career, maybe there is no coach who can match his record of successfully bringing two different clubs to win the treble winner.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on July 16, 2023, 10:34:46 PM

The players that Manchester City have released have all been in good form but the main reason for their release may be their age. Because older players are more likely to get injured, Manchester City may be leaving older players out of the squad, thinking about injuries and the effect of age on performance. As they are the defending champions, they are paying more attention to new players to maintain their status. Some of the players who have been released and some of the players who are about to be released have already found their replacements but then released those players so I think Manchester City fans have no reason to worry about this. Since Guardiwala is in charge of Man City, I hope he will do well for Manchester City.

We are ready to see what Manchester City can offer in next UEFA Champions League. Manchester city lose most of their crucial players this summer, Pep Guardiola watching the possible outcomes, he's making the best decision for the cityzens. Signing vibrant young players this summer, and these would served as longterm project for him and the club. When I say Guardiola is a genius, ofcourse we ought not to argue because he just proof it last season with winning a treble and stand out to he famous and successful with the present achievement he acquired.

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Quote from: marcous on July 16, 2023, 10:24:34 PM

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Losing Gundogan, Walker, Mahrez and the potential to be left behind by Bernardo Silva has not made Pep Guardiola dizzy with the current condition of the squad he has. The arrival of Mateo Kovacic can provide a solution in midfield and may be projected as a replacement for Gundogan. The calm demeanor appointed by Guardiola indicates that the squad currently owned can still be relied upon, it does not rule out that Guardiola will look for other quality players to add to Manchester City's strength.
Manchester City which has the status as the defending champion, must be able to give its best in the Champions League because the demands this season are heavier after achieving success last season.

With the status of the defending champion and the influence of Pep Guardiola, it will make it easier for Man City to recruit their target players. It seems that Pep will rejuvenate his squad by slowly releasing players who are approaching 30 years or more, maybe also the tactical differences that Pep will apply next season will be different from before. So the option of releasing old players and recruiting players according to their tactics is a step that must be taken, City's game will automatically be different and not easy for other teams to guess.

Yangel Herrera, Ilkay Gundogan, Nahuel Bustos, Benjamin Mendy are players who have been officially released in the current trade market, it is possible that Walker, Mahrez and Bernardo Silva will follow them. Whatever happens to their transfer market, many say that Man City is at the top of the list of favorites to win, either the EPL or the Champions League.

The players that Manchester City have released have all been in good form but the main reason for their release may be their age. Because older players are more likely to get injured, Manchester City may be leaving older players out of the squad, thinking about injuries and the effect of age on performance. As they are the defending champions, they are paying more attention to new players to maintain their status. Some of the players who have been released and some of the players who are about to be released have already found their replacements but then released those players so I think Manchester City fans have no reason to worry about this. Since Guardiwala is in charge of Man City, I hope he will do well for Manchester City.

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