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July 03, 2023, 02:31:37 AM
el Messi has been awarded the UEFA Champions League goal of the season for his goal against Benfica, but fans believe there is a better and more significant goal.

Messi has left Europe but has got one more piece of shiny metal to accompany him to Major League Soccer, where he is expected to resume later in July.

Do you guys agree if messi won goal of the season award by UEFA? I personally think that if rodri has been also making a beautiful goal from the match against bayern. I can't even deny the fact that if both of players were making great goals.
The only problem is many of people were saying if rodri has been robbed by UEFA caused by people think rodri has been making a better goal compared with messi.
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July 02, 2023, 11:58:43 PM
Its not guarantee with Luis Henrique winning Champion League tittle with PSG although success with Barcelona because main problem in PSG its not head coach but players mentality. Difficult for all manager how to make one teams unity exactly in PSG have many star player and some of them more priority playing as individual than teams.

A big part of PSG's problem is head coach. They have never had a good coach in my opinion. If they had a manager like Pep, even if they might not have won the champions league, they would have been playing better. PSG struggle even against the least team in the league. With the kind of squad they have they should be able to win games comfortably, or at least play convincingly.

The time PSG had a good coach in Thomas Tuchel they got to the final of the champions league.
Another part of PSG's problem is their management. I don't think they understand how to run a football club. The coaches should be given more freedom to choose players he wants the club to buy and players that he doesn't need or want in his squad.
It seems like the minds of management and coaches will forever be out of sync and that could be the worst thing that will happen someday. As we know, so far PSG has only focused on bringing in star players and after that they have continued to make profits through these players. From the coach's point of view, PSG are just pointing fingers and don't really care about the results achieved even though they have spent a lot of money to bring in this star player.

As a team with finances that cannot be underestimated, I think PSG should be able to win the champions league but the problem really is with the head coach who often changes if he feels he is not fit to achieve the target. If PSG could give more time to the previous competent coach, of course they would reach the best level in the champions league and could even win this competition for the first time.
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July 02, 2023, 11:04:14 PM
So hopefully, with the new coach Luis Enrique, who has proven to be an experienced coach and has many variations of tactics, he can accurately buy players that PSG really needs and there is no need for PSG to want to buy super expensive players with exorbitant salaries, if only to fulfill the owner's desires. course, because it proved futile.
You can forget about Mbappe, he has already started conflicts with the leadership over financial issues, so Enrique can only rely on Neymar. As strange as it may sound, the player that PSG wanted to get rid of in the first place can remain in the team. By the way, despite his temper, Neymar is indeed a very talented player and as time has shown for PSG, he turned out to be a player you can rely on. I believe that Enrique can make PSG a truly great team, because Galtier is still a great mystery to me.

Luis Enrique is a very experienced coach. So far we have seen that Mbappe was the most influential coach in the PSG squad. But with Luis Enrique as coach, Mbappe probably won't be able to do that anymore. Mbappe looks set to leave the club. Luis Enrique will also likely want to rebuild the squad with his preferred players. While the PSG squad has a lot of talented players, this team is not very strong. This is probably why Luis Enrique will want to revamp the team.
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July 02, 2023, 10:33:14 PM
I mean at least signing a couple of players for some specific areas would be very helpful for Manchester United to be more consistent and successful as well. They have started from somewhere as well by adding Mason Mount to the squad. He is mainly an attacking midfielder maybe but he is like a joker who can play in many more positions in the attacking line. Maybe this would even drop the need of signing a striker for them. This depends on whether ten Hag thinks of using Mount on the wing while Rashford is the centre-forward.

Anyway as a result Manchester United won't be much silent in this transfer window seemingly. ten Hag era is really promising and supporting this with new transfers can also be quite beneficial.
Manchester United will not desist in their efforts to sign a top striker and convert players into positions that are inconvenient for them, all of which demonstrate that they are lacking players who fit that position. This isn't the Etihad Stadium, where Pep Guardiola converts player positions; this is Old Trafford, where a lot can be done. Marcus Rashford and Mason Mount are frontlines and they will served good goal scoring opportunities for the club. Erik Ten Hag wants to bolster his squad for the purpose to be completely prepared for the UEFA Champions League, and he is always ready to deliver the same intensity he did this past season.
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July 02, 2023, 06:23:37 PM
So far, I think Messi departure at the end of this season will also make their front line lose a little sharpness. I think in the Champions League this season the teams that are really in the top right now are Manchester City and Real Madrid and Barcelona. PSG will try to make a big change in the depth of their squad where they get rid of players who are entering their old age by buying good quality players at a younger age. And they will try to make changes to prepare their strength for next season's Champions league.
Actually, given the information according to which Paris Saint Germain owner Nasser Al Khelaifi held a meeting with Harry Kane's father and brother, I would not bury PSG's prospects for the Champions League this season so much, after the loss of the decrepit Messi. Moreover, Luis Enrique approved this transition. The club intends to strengthen even now, and talk about PSG stopping buying superstars and betting on young players is heard every year after the club's relegation from the playoffs at an early stage, but still does not gain reality.
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July 02, 2023, 05:50:45 PM
Whoever owns Manchester United one thing is certain that they really need significant additions to the squad. At least this is needed if Erik ten Hag is planning bigger for the club for the near future. This season they showed how capable they can be by defeating even the league champion in Old Trafford. They were really impressive in home matches against top clubs in the league.

But this squad isn't still quite enough to compete harder for the Premier League and Champions League titles. Maybe you can give the Arsenal example but it isn't a thing we see very often. They have a really young squad so they also need some serious additions to keep consistency.

As a result Manchester United need to be really careful about their expenditures as well from now on. Otherwise they might find themselves spending a huge sum of money on an average player such as Maguire.

I don't think the team needs to be strengthened with more players, for me personally the ones they have are excellent, what they have to do is find another coach, I don't know to what extent the Manchester leaders are so blind, they still keep a technical director who has not won a single championship , they are all losses, failures, because I don't see any other way to call this club, if they are going to sell it, do it now, because it is a squad of very nice jaguars out there, I would dare to compare them with Chelsea, because they have excellent players who are up to the task, the only thing is that the quality of the technical director is very bad and if they continue like this, they will never be able to have good News, of course it is my personal opinion, and I think that many Manchester fans are Clear on this.

I mean at least signing a couple of players for some specific areas would be very helpful for Manchester United to be more consistent and successful as well. They have started from somewhere as well by adding Mason Mount to the squad. He is mainly an attacking midfielder maybe but he is like a joker who can play in many more positions in the attacking line. Maybe this would even drop the need of signing a striker for them. This depends on whether ten Hag thinks of using Mount on the wing while Rashford is the centre-forward.

Anyway as a result Manchester United won't be much silent in this transfer window seemingly. ten Hag era is really promising and supporting this with new transfers can also be quite beneficial.
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July 02, 2023, 05:38:56 PM
Its not guarantee with Luis Henrique winning Champion League tittle with PSG although success with Barcelona because main problem in PSG its not head coach but players mentality. Difficult for all manager how to make one teams unity exactly in PSG have many star player and some of them more priority playing as individual than teams.

A big part of PSG's problem is head coach. They have never had a good coach in my opinion. If they had a manager like Pep, even if they might not have won the champions league, they would have been playing better. PSG struggle even against the least team in the league. With the kind of squad they have they should be able to win games comfortably, or at least play convincingly.

The time PSG had a good coach in Thomas Tuchel they got to the final of the champions league.
Another part of PSG's problem is their management. I don't think they understand how to run a football club. The coaches should be given more freedom to choose players he wants the club to buy and players that he doesn't need or want in his squad.
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July 02, 2023, 05:32:20 PM
In as much as I don't want to sound like one who doesn't want to see Paris Saint Germaine lift the UEFA Champions League trophy, it is also expected of me to voice out my opinion about the possibility of the French champions winning the UEFA Champions League.
After Lionel Messi's arrival at the club two years ago, PSG's attacking line up that consists Messi, Neymar and Kylian Mbappe were expected win the UEFA Champions League competition but they failed to do it despite the kind of quality players at the club's disposal. I don't PSG stands a chance to win the Champions League anytime soon especially in the coming 2023/24 season
No, I don't think PSG will be a strong candidate next season. I think other teams are more experienced in this league. PSG were trapped last season in the Champions League, because they have a stronger squad depth because they are strengthened by Messi, Neymar and Mbappe as well as a great goalkeeper and a strong defense. But the fact is that they had to give up on Bayern Munich last season. Indeed they still have a chance to get a trophy but that is very small considering Manchester city is a stronger team than them next season.

So far, I think Messi departure at the end of this season will also make their front line lose a little sharpness. I think in the Champions League this season the teams that are really in the top right now are Manchester City and Real Madrid and Barcelona. PSG will try to make a big change in the depth of their squad where they get rid of players who are entering their old age by buying good quality players at a younger age. And they will try to make changes to prepare their strength for next season's Champions league.
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July 02, 2023, 05:13:58 PM
I think that it will never be too late for PSG as long as they stay as one of the richest teams in Europe. They will always have the opportunity in hand to build one of the most impressive squads to be competitive for the Champions League title. While this isn't a tough task for PSG the main problem is not about this.

The main problem has always been management issues. PSG have made so many changes in manager position of the team but none of them was enough to secure a Champions League title. Although Enrique has a different style of his own it is the truth that he is still a Champions League winner. If we see a good chemistry between then I don't see any hindrance for them to do better here compared to last season.
Manchester City also just won the Champions League title for the first time, so indeed it's never too late for PSG and that applies to all clubs. But PSG can be said to be more serious for UCL, they recruit superstar players and does not matter with the cost. Previously, Neymar was the player with the most expensive transfer fee. PSG were very serious about signing players but they were not very lucky and now their hope is in Enrique hands, seeing its historical achievements, PSG should be able to be better than the previous season.
In as much as I don't want to sound like one who doesn't want to see Paris Saint Germaine lift the UEFA Champions League trophy, it is also expected of me to voice out my opinion about the possibility of the French champions winning the UEFA Champions League.
After Lionel Messi's arrival at the club two years ago, PSG's attacking line up that consists Messi, Neymar and Kylian Mbappe were expected win the UEFA Champions League competition but they failed to do it despite the kind of quality players at the club's disposal. I don't PSG stands a chance to win the Champions League anytime soon especially in the coming 2023/24 season
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July 02, 2023, 04:48:48 PM
So hopefully, with the new coach Luis Enrique, who has proven to be an experienced coach and has many variations of tactics, he can accurately buy players that PSG really needs and there is no need for PSG to want to buy super expensive players with exorbitant salaries, if only to fulfill the owner's desires. course, because it proved futile.
You can forget about Mbappe, he has already started conflicts with the leadership over financial issues, so Enrique can only rely on Neymar. As strange as it may sound, the player that PSG wanted to get rid of in the first place can remain in the team. By the way, despite his temper, Neymar is indeed a very talented player and as time has shown for PSG, he turned out to be a player you can rely on. I believe that Enrique can make PSG a truly great team, because Galtier is still a great mystery to me.

I don't think if Enrique will lose Mbappe easily and in the poster PSG released for the next season, Mbappe is the player wearing shirts for the next season. However, Neymar can't be a player to rely on him for the next season. Because he is currently not in a good situation and he also lost the whole season because of getting injured.
Having an injury prone player as your key man can be really affective and dangerous when it comes to having constant and stable team because at the time you would rely on him to deliver he might not be fit and thats exactly what happened to eden hazard career at real Madrid.

If am luiz Enrique, I would probably look for how to retain mbappe because when it comes to delivery the goals and the team as whole I can definitely count on mbappe over neymar but both players are still vital for that PSG squad.
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July 02, 2023, 04:44:33 PM
The coach is just an important part of a team in setting game strategy, setting game plans, and giving practice portions to the players. The quality of the players and the quality of the coach technically will help a team to win titles, but when a team doesn't have good squad depth, then of course they have difficulty winning titles.

In fact, winning the Champions League title will not be easy even if a team works with a great and experienced coach. Luis Enrique won the Champions League with Barcelona, ​​but cannot guarantee the same achievement for PSG. Likewise with Pep Guardiola when he coached Bayern Munich and the same thing for Ancelotti when he coached Chelsea, PSG and Bayern Munich.
The coach is quite influential in the depth of the team because a genius coach will be able to make significant changes for the progress of the team. There are interesting examples such as Spalletti who was successful with Napoli, although if you look at the depth of the team, of course Napoli is not reinforced by big names or star players, but Spalletti was able to bring big changes to the team.

So, there are several great coaches who will fight next season to bring their team to the UCL trophy. Like Ancelotti with Real Madrid and Pep Guardiola with Manchester City and Tuchel with Bayern Munich. I think these 3 coaches have more impressive experience in the Champions League. I believe their squad depth is also very strong.
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July 02, 2023, 04:41:14 PM
I think that it will never be too late for PSG as long as they stay as one of the richest teams in Europe. They will always have the opportunity in hand to build one of the most impressive squads to be competitive for the Champions League title. While this isn't a tough task for PSG the main problem is not about this.

The main problem has always been management issues. PSG have made so many changes in manager position of the team but none of them was enough to secure a Champions League title. Although Enrique has a different style of his own it is the truth that he is still a Champions League winner. If we see a good chemistry between then I don't see any hindrance for them to do better here compared to last season.
Manchester City also just won the Champions League title for the first time, so indeed it's never too late for PSG and that applies to all clubs. But PSG can be said to be more serious for UCL, they recruit superstar players and does not matter with the cost. Previously, Neymar was the player with the most expensive transfer fee. PSG were very serious about signing players but they were not very lucky and now their hope is in Enrique hands, seeing its historical achievements, PSG should be able to be better than the previous season.
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July 02, 2023, 04:32:06 PM
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Before Luis Henrique, PSG has experienced head coach Carlo Ancelotti who winning Champion League tittle with AC Milan but failed when becoming PSG manager. Its not guarantee with Luis Henrique winning Champion League tittle with PSG although success with Barcelona because main problem in PSG its not head coach but players mentality. Difficult for all manager how to make one teams unity exactly in PSG have many star player and some of them more priority playing as individual than teams.

But PSG fans has huge expected with Luis Henrique for winning Champion League tittle, due Manchester City success become the winner always has chance for PSG winning Champion League tittle and stopping meme for that team without Champion League tittle yet.
The coach is just an important part of a team in setting game strategy, setting game plans, and giving practice portions to the players. The quality of the players and the quality of the coach technically will help a team to win titles, but when a team doesn't have good squad depth, then of course they have difficulty winning titles.

In fact, winning the Champions League title will not be easy even if a team works with a great and experienced coach. Luis Enrique won the Champions League with Barcelona, ​​but cannot guarantee the same achievement for PSG. Likewise with Pep Guardiola when he coached Bayern Munich and the same thing for Ancelotti when he coached Chelsea, PSG and Bayern Munich.
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July 02, 2023, 04:11:00 PM
I think that it will never be too late for PSG as long as they stay as one of the richest teams in Europe. They will always have the opportunity in hand to build one of the most impressive squads to be competitive for the Champions League title. While this isn't a tough task for PSG the main problem is not about this.

The main problem has always been management issues. PSG have made so many changes in manager position of the team but none of them was enough to secure a Champions League title. Although Enrique has a different style of his own it is the truth that he is still a Champions League winner. If we see a good chemistry between then I don't see any hindrance for them to do better here compared to last season.
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July 02, 2023, 04:07:09 PM
So hopefully, with the new coach Luis Enrique, who has proven to be an experienced coach and has many variations of tactics, he can accurately buy players that PSG really needs and there is no need for PSG to want to buy super expensive players with exorbitant salaries, if only to fulfill the owner's desires. course, because it proved futile.
You can forget about Mbappe, he has already started conflicts with the leadership over financial issues, so Enrique can only rely on Neymar. As strange as it may sound, the player that PSG wanted to get rid of in the first place can remain in the team. By the way, despite his temper, Neymar is indeed a very talented player and as time has shown for PSG, he turned out to be a player you can rely on. I believe that Enrique can make PSG a truly great team, because Galtier is still a great mystery to me.

I don't think if Enrique will lose Mbappe easily and in the poster PSG released for the next season, Mbappe is the player wearing shirts for the next season. However, Neymar can't be a player to rely on him for the next season. Because he is currently not in a good situation and he also lost the whole season because of getting injured.

Neymar isn't important right now for Enrique because when you plan a future season for your team, a coach would go step by step and check who is available and who is most likely ready for most of the games. In case of Neymar nobody really knows what is going to happen when he returns. Maybe they can say what is going on after four weeks or so, but not immediately after he played his first game. Counting on him would be a fatal mistake at this point and Enrique is experienced enough to know that, but does Enrique really think that he can turn PSG into a Champions League title winner when all those players are elaving?
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July 02, 2023, 03:30:38 PM
So hopefully, with the new coach Luis Enrique, who has proven to be an experienced coach and has many variations of tactics, he can accurately buy players that PSG really needs and there is no need for PSG to want to buy super expensive players with exorbitant salaries, if only to fulfill the owner's desires. course, because it proved futile.
You can forget about Mbappe, he has already started conflicts with the leadership over financial issues, so Enrique can only rely on Neymar. As strange as it may sound, the player that PSG wanted to get rid of in the first place can remain in the team. By the way, despite his temper, Neymar is indeed a very talented player and as time has shown for PSG, he turned out to be a player you can rely on. I believe that Enrique can make PSG a truly great team, because Galtier is still a great mystery to me.

I don't think if Enrique will lose Mbappe easily and in the poster PSG released for the next season, Mbappe is the player wearing shirts for the next season. However, Neymar can't be a player to rely on him for the next season. Because he is currently not in a good situation and he also lost the whole season because of getting injured.
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July 02, 2023, 02:16:20 PM
So hopefully, with the new coach Luis Enrique, who has proven to be an experienced coach and has many variations of tactics, he can accurately buy players that PSG really needs and there is no need for PSG to want to buy super expensive players with exorbitant salaries, if only to fulfill the owner's desires. course, because it proved futile.
You can forget about Mbappe, he has already started conflicts with the leadership over financial issues, so Enrique can only rely on Neymar. As strange as it may sound, the player that PSG wanted to get rid of in the first place can remain in the team. By the way, despite his temper, Neymar is indeed a very talented player and as time has shown for PSG, he turned out to be a player you can rely on. I believe that Enrique can make PSG a truly great team, because Galtier is still a great mystery to me.
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July 02, 2023, 02:01:52 PM
It's a shame that Luis Enrique arrival, who was appointed as PSG coach, is called too late, because if the trio were still there, maybe PSG's results could have been better in the Champions League last season. As we know, Luis Enrique is very suitable to lead PSG. Now, this will be quite interesting when Luis Enrique designed the PSG squad from the start, all he has to do is build the squad as ideal as possible. Huge financial support certainly makes his job easier, so buying some quality players is no doubt. When PSG was coached by Galtier there were still many things that were not perfect, for example Galtier was not able to design a suitable game strategy in combining the trio of Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar. I mean the three players still look awkward and still keep their distance from each other and there is often a little friction. No wonder because all three have their own reputations that must continue to stand out.

Before Luis Henrique, PSG has experienced head coach Carlo Ancelotti who winning Champion League tittle with AC Milan but failed when becoming PSG manager. Its not guarantee with Luis Henrique winning Champion League tittle with PSG although success with Barcelona because main problem in PSG its not head coach but players mentality. Difficult for all manager how to make one teams unity exactly in PSG have many star player and some of them more priority playing as individual than teams.

But PSG fans has huge expected with Luis Henrique for winning Champion League tittle, due Manchester City success become the winner always has chance for PSG winning Champion League tittle and stopping meme for that team without Champion League tittle yet.
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July 02, 2023, 01:59:09 PM
It's a shame that Luis Enrique arrival, who was appointed as PSG coach, is called too late, because if the trio were still there, maybe PSG's results could have been better in the Champions League last season. As we know, Luis Enrique is very suitable to lead PSG. Now, this will be quite interesting when Luis Enrique designed the PSG squad from the start, all he has to do is build the squad as ideal as possible. Huge financial support certainly makes his job easier, so buying some quality players is no doubt. When PSG was coached by Galtier there were still many things that were not perfect, for example Galtier was not able to design a suitable game strategy in combining the trio of Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar. I mean the three players still look awkward and still keep their distance from each other and there is often a little friction. No wonder because all three have their own reputations that must continue to stand out.

In my opinion, Luis Enrique's arrival is not too late, this is precisely the right time to improve PSG so that they become a strong team. Because in my opinion, PSG in the last two seasons made mistakes in buying players and choosing coaches which ultimately affected the team's unstable appearance. because actually what is most needed is not Messi on the front lines (it has been proven that Messi has not made any impact on PSG's game for two seasons).

Because PSG already has mbappe and Neymar who can be relied on, but PSG should focus on finding a defensive midfielder and a playmaker who can control PSG's game. because it's clear that PSG's midfield is neither creative nor tough. so every time you are attacked by an opponent, you must immediately face the center back which results in many gaps in PSG's defense.

So hopefully, with the new coach Luis Enrique, who has proven to be an experienced coach and has many variations of tactics, he can accurately buy players that PSG really needs and there is no need for PSG to want to buy super expensive players with exorbitant salaries, if only to fulfill the owner's desires. course, because it proved futile.
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July 02, 2023, 01:43:00 PM
Personally, I think PSG's owners should learn from Manchester City's example.
Both clubs have very rich owners, but Manchester City is still a more successful club than PSG. Why is that so?
Why did Manchester City finally manage to win the Champions League and PSG not even though they have three of the best footballers in the world, Mbappe, Neymar and Messi?
It is not enough to just bring the best players, you also need to have a top coach who will know how to create a strong team, as Pep for example.
Also, long-term systematic work and vision are needed, and PSG does not have that. How many coaches have they changed in recent years?
What about Manchester City?  Grin

I have discussed this in various posts, in fact I often compare these two clubs which have very healthy finances. the difference is, City is handled by professional management. as for PSG, it looks like Nasser Al Khelaifi is more in control as he wants. for example, at PSG Mbappe has privileges. at City, players who don't follow the coach's instructions or show their ego. then he will be on the bench, yes like Joao Cancelo. City, giving the coach the right to be involved in bringing in the players he wants. at PSG, it all depends on the club management. City, has an almost even depth of players and has a very solid starting eleven. at PSG, there is a gap between the front line players and the other players. I mean, PSG are sharp up front but lame in midfield and defence. plus, the two trainers have different ways and characteristics.

PSG should be able to emulate the steps taken by City. now, PSG is under the tutelage of Luis Enrique. at least, Enrique meets the criteria as a coach who has a proven track record.  it's just that, we don't know the depth of PSG in next season. at least, let's see what they do in the transfer window this summer.
IMO, I'm not sure PSG will be much stronger than last season in this competition. however, let's see and wait how Enrique will bring PSG more competitive.

I agree with your comments here. There is one important criticism I would like to add. Defending power lies behind Manchester City's success against PSG. Mbappe Messi and Neymar played together in this team and it's a very good offensive line. but I don't think PSG's defense is good even though they have a good offensive line. If you notice, the whole team is always trying to defend in important matches. Because the players who need to defend can't defend enough. Offensive players can't do exactly what they're supposed to do because they're helping the defense. This is PSG's biggest problem when playing with a major opponent.
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