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July 01, 2023, 11:24:22 AM
Currently there are 3 matches have been started in Champions League and the score are big for 3-0, 5-0, and 7-1.

I don't really familiar with the clubs and I think most people would be same as me, but it seems like those unknown clubs matches often to score many goals, this could be a good chance to bet over 3 or 4+ goals because the odds is worth to bet.

Yes, I agree and even though sometimes they only score a few goals, but in reality, they often score a lot of goals. Therefore, betting on over xxx goals and also, betting for both teams to score can be a good option. Of course, each of the available odds might give a little description or prediction of whether the option will be the right choice or not. But with regard to mediocre teams like this, then of course betting with feelings can be interesting, because when betting on a team that is not well-known you don't have many sources that can be used as material to predict it.
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July 01, 2023, 10:38:50 AM
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Many say Pep Guardiola can only coach big teams and big funds, of course that has pros and cons, but apart from that, for me personally, he is the best coach in the world.

he was appointed coach of Barcelona at the start of the 2008-2009 season, which was a very brave decision by removing Ronaldinho, who at that time was a club icon and placing the burden on Messi's shoulders, who was still very young at that time.
In the previous season at the hands of Rijkaard, Barcelona had a bad season, finishing in 3rd place under Madrid and Villareal.
With all the conditions at that time, there were many doubts about Pep Guardiola, who incidentally lacked experience. Until the first 2 matches of the 2008-2009 season, Barcelona could only win 1 point in the first 2 matches of the league, making it even more difficult for Pep Guardiola. until finally it got better, and Barcelona continued to be consistent and the rest is history.

then he chose Bayern, which is clearly a big team, but Bayern is not the type of club that likes to spend money buying expensive players. Even though he failed to bring the UCL to Bayern, he cannot be considered a failure. then he went to Man city, and what happened like now. Man City dominates England, and succeeds in winning the UCL. he's a coach who builds the identity of a team. in his hands, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Man City are teams to be feared and have captivating games.

if he chose established teams, with all the achievements in his previous team, surely many established teams would want his services.
Initially, many people doubted Guardiola quality after being promoted to head coach in the Barcelona first team, because at that time his status was as a coach at Barcelona B, especially at that time Guardiola had only started his career as a coach for one year. The opportunity given Barcelona was not wasted by Guardiola, he immediately brought Barcelona to win the La Liga title for three consecutive seasons. As a newcomer to the world of coaches who were full of competition with great coaches, he managed to make Barcelona one of the best clubs in Europe at the time.

I think Guardiola is better than Zidane who has only coached the only club, he was able to win the treble winner with two different clubs. Behind the success he has achieved with Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City, he still has the task of helping Manchester City become the reigning champions on the UCL stage. The squad that Manchester City currently has can be polished by Guardiola with the tiki-taka style that is his trademark to become a frightening club in the EPL and UCL.
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July 01, 2023, 10:16:29 AM
First of all I would have really liked to see Guardiola managing an average team as well to see his quality better. Because he started his career with Barcelona B team. And the teams they have managed after that are only Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. He has been really successful with these teams maybe. But I also agree that even an average manager would become successful with this kind of teams. Maybe he wouldn't be as much as Guardiola but the player quality would still help a lot.

However I must admit a fact that he literally built Manchester City according to his will after coming here. I think this is a very special time period of his career here because of that.
Mr. Guardiola does owes a lot to the quality and characteristics of the players he has. He doesn't bring utility players; he brings players who can solve problems or perform three or four tasks within a match. Not anyone can play like Guardiola; that's the lesson he gives. Yes, Guardiola excels when he has better players who can handle the ball better, make better decisions. That's obvious. But Guardiola could also play with a team without so many stars, with a possession-based style. Maybe he wouldn't achieve such great results because he would lack the quality of the players, but he could still do it. What should be highlighted, especially, is his ability to make different teams play the way he wants, even changing the style of play for these teams  and that's a tremendous achievement for any coach.

In fact, many commentators have so far criticized Pep for only being successful with the best Barcelona in history and with the best football player in history, Messi.
They said that after Barcelona he was an unsuccessful coach, which is, of course, great nonsense.
With Bayern he won almost all titles in Germany and with Manchester City he was champion almost every season, which is a huge undertaking and a great achievement.
Of course, he was criticized for his previous failures in the Champions League, but he forgets that in a cup competition like the Champions League, you always have to have a bit of luck in the key moments of the match.
Real last season in the Champions League is the best example of that.
Pep finally won the Champions League with Manchester City and almost all the trophies he could win this season, and no one can claim that Manchester City is not the best club in the world and Pep is the best coach.
Does anyone think that all these successes are just for money? Ask PSG owners and fans what they think about it.  Grin
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July 01, 2023, 09:41:44 AM
First of all I would have really liked to see Guardiola managing an average team as well to see his quality better. Because he started his career with Barcelona B team. And the teams they have managed after that are only Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. He has been really successful with these teams maybe. But I also agree that even an average manager would become successful with this kind of teams. Maybe he wouldn't be as much as Guardiola but the player quality would still help a lot.

I agree with your statement but not all, we have seen several times where average coach’s and also more successful ones coaching this big teams and still fail woefully. It cannot always be with the help of the level of players in that team, sometimes his tactical approach also matters in making those teams successful. You strategy and tactics will help a lot to coach any team, whether small or big team in football.

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However I must admit a fact that he literally built Manchester City according to his will after coming here. I think this is a very special time period of his career here because of that.

Manchester City are practically not an underdog team, but his presence there made the team to become stronger and where able to go far and achieve all that they got today. First, he is an experienced manager and coming to a team that’s already made will only boost his confidence and make only little repair and changes in the squad. All he had achieved there are all well deserved looking at how far he has come.
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July 01, 2023, 09:21:47 AM
Currently there are 3 matches have been started in Champions League and the score are big for 3-0, 5-0, and 7-1.

I don't really familiar with the clubs and I think most people would be same as me, but it seems like those unknown clubs matches often to score many goals, this could be a good chance to bet over 3 or 4+ goals because the odds is worth to bet.
Most of us certainly will not so familiar with those teams because they are from the league with a low ranking according to UEFA rank and this is not the matches for first qualification of champion league but the winner of those matches will advances to the next round and playing at first qualification of champion league and as far i know the match has been ended yesterday with Iceland team Breiðablik UBK as the winner

And as i predicted before in the final match against Budućnost they can able to win with big scores 5-0 and since the beginning of match Breiðablik has been dominate the match and they even leading 4-0 in the first half and this make they very confident and ended up the match with good winning and for upcoming match this is still not official yet because UEFA still not announce but possibly Breiðablik will fight against Shamrock Rovers this month but to betting on qualification matches it will very risky because most of us are blind the strength of those teams
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July 01, 2023, 08:40:41 AM
Currently there are 3 matches have been started in Champions League and the score are big for 3-0, 5-0, and 7-1.

I don't really familiar with the clubs and I think most people would be same as me, but it seems like those unknown clubs matches often to score many goals, this could be a good chance to bet over 3 or 4+ goals because the odds is worth to bet.
This is the first qualifying round, it is still very difficult to analyze a team because I don't know the team either, I think many people will miss this bet.

I don't think that's a good chance, it's still difficult for me even though betting on 3-4 goals and above feels like a team is still difficult to predict and I myself didn't place bets in this match.

I don't want to take risks, I prefer a team that I know so that will be an opportunity for me.
That's true, betting on an unknown team, even with a lot of goal production that is quite difficult to predict, the other side we cannot weigh the probability of their victory if we don't know the players and the team, the benefits of betting are indeed great in matches like this, but risks What is offered is also very large.
Honestly, there is no one team that I know this champion match, even in the goal statistics, only a few can be seen by his face.
It might be suitable to bet when the game has started, but for me I feel doubtful and not passionate when betting on a team like that.
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July 01, 2023, 08:39:27 AM
Currently there are 3 matches have been started in Champions League and the score are big for 3-0, 5-0, and 7-1.

I don't really familiar with the clubs and I think most people would be same as me, but it seems like those unknown clubs matches often to score many goals, this could be a good chance to bet over 3 or 4+ goals because the odds is worth to bet.
I don't think so, maybe it's a good option to bet, but too risky too. This really not familiar club can make surprises but also not always, especially in the first qualifying round later maybe we can see that any team will find it difficult to score a lot, I mean like last season there were several matches that ended without goals too.
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July 01, 2023, 08:35:04 AM
Currently there are 3 matches have been started in Champions League and the score are big for 3-0, 5-0, and 7-1.

I don't really familiar with the clubs and I think most people would be same as me, but it seems like those unknown clubs matches often to score many goals, this could be a good chance to bet over 3 or 4+ goals because the odds is worth to bet.
This is the first qualifying round, it is still very difficult to analyze a team because I don't know the team either, I think many people will miss this bet.

I don't think that's a good chance, it's still difficult for me even though betting on 3-4 goals and above feels like a team is still difficult to predict and I myself didn't place bets in this match.

I don't want to take risks, I prefer a team that I know so that will be an opportunity for me.
entering the first qualifying round, we will not see any strong teams. because indeed those who are in this qualification are mostly teams whose strengths we don't know much about.
betting for the number of goals scored is too risky. because we really don't know the strength of the team. we still cannot predict the consistency of the competing teams. at the moment they can win big, but it's possible that in the next match they can lose a lot of goals.

if you don't want to take too many risks, it's better not to bet in this qualifying round.
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July 01, 2023, 08:25:35 AM
Currently there are 3 matches have been started in Champions League and the score are big for 3-0, 5-0, and 7-1.

I don't really familiar with the clubs and I think most people would be same as me, but it seems like those unknown clubs matches often to score many goals, this could be a good chance to bet over 3 or 4+ goals because the odds is worth to bet.
This is the first qualifying round, it is still very difficult to analyze a team because I don't know the team either, I think many people will miss this bet.

I don't think that's a good chance, it's still difficult for me even though betting on 3-4 goals and above feels like a team is still difficult to predict and I myself didn't place bets in this match.

I don't want to take risks, I prefer a team that I know so that will be an opportunity for me.
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July 01, 2023, 08:11:06 AM
Currently there are 3 matches have been started in Champions League and the score are big for 3-0, 5-0, and 7-1.

I don't really familiar with the clubs and I think most people would be same as me, but it seems like those unknown clubs matches often to score many goals, this could be a good chance to bet over 3 or 4+ goals because the odds is worth to bet.
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July 01, 2023, 07:58:02 AM
The new season started this week and the club from my country scored first goal and that's all that wee see from them since we are so bad we can't even get into qualification rounds. I'm speaking about Buducnost.
I just saw it and it turned out to be really bad for Buducnost who was completely slaughtered by Breidablik. But I don't think it's worth mentioning that here either because the final score was a shock, although I too am waiting for the new season now and also keeping a close eye on every team that moves in the transfer market. Because next season might be very different from the season that has passed.

Breidablik was in very good rhythm. Breidablik won 7-1 against Tre Penne in the previous match. But I will say the result against Buducnost was completely unexpected. I do not expect such a result. Because the Buducnost team is pretty good. I wanted to enjoy a competitive match. But the match was completely one-sided. We only saw the dominance of Breidablik's players. Breidablik players played very well both in defense and attack. And managed to win by a huge margin of 5-0.
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July 01, 2023, 07:56:11 AM
The new season started this week and the club from my country scored first goal and that's all that wee see from them since we are so bad we can't even get into qualification rounds. I'm speaking about Buducnost.
I just saw it and it turned out to be really bad for Buducnost who was completely slaughtered by Breidablik. But I don't think it's worth mentioning that here either because the final score was a shock, although I too am waiting for the new season now and also keeping a close eye on every team that moves in the transfer market. Because next season might be very different from the season that has passed.
Breidablik is stronger than team Buducnost. Breidablik's victory for me was not too surprising, indeed before the match it was predicted that he would win the match. as Breidablik is brimming with confidence after scoring seven goals in beating Tre Penne the previous game. However, it was a bit unexpected because in the first half they had scored four goals and in the second half they added one more goal so that the score was 0-5 in favor of Breidablik.

Of course, all teams are building more teams to face the new season, it is very visible that several big teams have brought in classy players such as Arsenal, Man Untied and Real Madrid. they all have big ambitions next season to be able to compete for the Champions League.
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July 01, 2023, 07:51:10 AM
The new season started this week and the club from my country scored first goal and that's all that wee see from them since we are so bad we can't even get into qualification rounds. I'm speaking about Buducnost.


Buducnost destroyed by breiðablik. breiðablik was fully dominating the match. Buducnost has been making so many fouls. The gap is too big. I remember that i have the duel between buducnost vs breiðablik before but it's not as bad as this time.
Buducnost can do nothing against breiðablik. I don't why but it seems like playing at breiðablik's home has been giving very big impact to the performance from buducnost. The final score was 5-0.

breiðablik is far above buducnost in everything right now. breiðablik is too strong.
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July 01, 2023, 07:39:51 AM
First of all I would have really liked to see Guardiola managing an average team as well to see his quality better. Because he started his career with Barcelona B team. And the teams they have managed after that are only Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. He has been really successful with these teams maybe. But I also agree that even an average manager would become successful with this kind of teams. Maybe he wouldn't be as much as Guardiola but the player quality would still help a lot.

However I must admit a fact that he literally built Manchester City according to his will after coming here. I think this is a very special time period of his career here because of that.
Mr. Guardiola does owes a lot to the quality and characteristics of the players he has. He doesn't bring utility players; he brings players who can solve problems or perform three or four tasks within a match. Not anyone can play like Guardiola; that's the lesson he gives. Yes, Guardiola excels when he has better players who can handle the ball better, make better decisions. That's obvious. But Guardiola could also play with a team without so many stars, with a possession-based style. Maybe he wouldn't achieve such great results because he would lack the quality of the players, but he could still do it. What should be highlighted, especially, is his ability to make different teams play the way he wants, even changing the style of play for these teams  and that's a tremendous achievement for any coach.
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July 01, 2023, 07:10:24 AM
The new season started this week and the club from my country scored first goal and that's all that wee see from them since we are so bad we can't even get into qualification rounds. I'm speaking about Buducnost.
I just saw it and it turned out to be really bad for Buducnost who was completely slaughtered by Breidablik. But I don't think it's worth mentioning that here either because the final score was a shock, although I too am waiting for the new season now and also keeping a close eye on every team that moves in the transfer market. Because next season might be very different from the season that has passed.
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July 01, 2023, 06:21:01 AM
First of all I would have really liked to see Guardiola managing an average team as well to see his quality better. Because he started his career with Barcelona B team. And the teams they have managed after that are only Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. He has been really successful with these teams maybe. But I also agree that even an average manager would become successful with this kind of teams. Maybe he wouldn't be as much as Guardiola but the player quality would still help a lot.

However I must admit a fact that he literally built Manchester City according to his will after coming here. I think this is a very special time period of his career here because of that.
Many say Pep Guardiola can only coach big teams and big funds, of course that has pros and cons, but apart from that, for me personally, he is the best coach in the world.

he was appointed coach of Barcelona at the start of the 2008-2009 season, which was a very brave decision by removing Ronaldinho, who at that time was a club icon and placing the burden on Messi's shoulders, who was still very young at that time.
In the previous season at the hands of Rijkaard, Barcelona had a bad season, finishing in 3rd place under Madrid and Villareal.
With all the conditions at that time, there were many doubts about Pep Guardiola, who incidentally lacked experience. Until the first 2 matches of the 2008-2009 season, Barcelona could only win 1 point in the first 2 matches of the league, making it even more difficult for Pep Guardiola. until finally it got better, and Barcelona continued to be consistent and the rest is history.

then he chose Bayern, which is clearly a big team, but Bayern is not the type of club that likes to spend money buying expensive players. Even though he failed to bring the UCL to Bayern, he cannot be considered a failure. then he went to Man city, and what happened like now. Man City dominates England, and succeeds in winning the UCL. he's a coach who builds the identity of a team. in his hands, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Man City are teams to be feared and have captivating games.

if he chose established teams, with all the achievements in his previous team, surely many established teams would want his services.
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July 01, 2023, 05:55:29 AM
The new season started this week and the club from my country scored first goal and that's all that wee see from them since we are so bad we can't even get into qualification rounds. I'm speaking about Buducnost.
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July 01, 2023, 05:51:32 AM
First of all I would have really liked to see Guardiola managing an average team as well to see his quality better. Because he started his career with Barcelona B team. And the teams they have managed after that are only Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. He has been really successful with these teams maybe. But I also agree that even an average manager would become successful with this kind of teams. Maybe he wouldn't be as much as Guardiola but the player quality would still help a lot.

However I must admit a fact that he literally built Manchester City according to his will after coming here. I think this is a very special time period of his career here because of that.
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July 01, 2023, 05:39:37 AM
Well it took Guardiola quite some many years to be able to win the Champions League despite he having one of the best teams in the world when it comes to great players,he always had great names but it took him several years in order to harmonize this team even in European competitions so all kudos to him,for me though any other coach would have won at least once the Champions League with these players in his disposal,just my opinion.I do believe Guardiola to be one of the best coaches out there but I think it took him a lot of time to win a Champions League trophy with all these great players,nevertheless the Champions are never judged so let's see the next upcoming season.
Guardiola is a very skilled coach and Manchester City is a very strong team. The combination of a skilled coach and a strong team has taken a long time for Manchester City to win the Champions League trophy. If a team like Manchester City has to work so hard, the Champions League trophy is like a dream for other teams. But Guardiola has proven that hard work and focus on one's goals and self-belief make any difficult task easier.  
Guardiola is not the best manager after seeing Manchester City win the Champions League trophy, he is already the best manager because his style of play is completely different.
I don't agree if you say Guardiola is not the best manager, previously he had won many trophies with Barcelona in various competitions which made him win his first treble as a manager. His success continued throughout his career in the Bundesliga, with Bayern Munich he was also able to prove his quality.
After successfully bringing Manchester City to the first treble in the history of the club, Guardiola became a coach who was able to win 2x trebles, Guardiola success in winning 2x trebles may be difficult for other coaches to achieve for the next few seasons. Manchester City is trying to maintain the success that has just been achieved, they are trying to add strength to their squad to face the challenges next season.

I said that those who think that Guardiola winning ucl trophy for manchester city is a good coach are wrong because even before he won champions league trophy with manchester city he was an experienced and quite capable coach. There are many who consider Guardiola to be among the best with Manchester City's Champions League trophy. But if he could not win the Champions League trophy this season, would he be an incompetent coach? This is not the case at all.  
As you said he won several trophies for Barcelona. He has also had some notable success with Bayan Munich and has always been a great coach.
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July 01, 2023, 04:48:36 AM
Pep Guardiola's achievement is indeed like destiny and the talent of the players he has are all purely because of his greatness at his peak. So actually Pep Guardiola is more like a successor than the previous coach who had built the main squad since the beginning of the revival. Guardiola only needs to polish it a little and with his genius he is able to maximize this mature talent. So we can conclude that the achievement of the treble winner or being able to win the champion's league is thanks to the previous coaches who raised the team and also because all the players are in their golden age.
it's been years since Man City couldn't get a treble title and also a champions league trophy and all of that was printed in new history with a spectacular victory thanks to Guardiola's struggles. I admit that Guardiola is a talented coach from the experience of every failure in Guardiola's match. He always remembers these mistakes. Makes a lesson not to repeat them again and set a strategy that can strengthen Man City to get the best place, namely the champions league champion.
so Guardiola always takes his experience to strengthen player solidarity to always be consistent from every season and this year Guardiola's achievements have been very successful with Man City and this will make Guardiola even more enthusiastic about training all Man City players to get the title again in the following season.
Yes it's a great achievement from Guardiola, but he also seems to learn from previous failures that made Guardiola learn which ones to improve and which ones to replace, I think that's why Guardiola found a really good squad team so he believes he can get the treble winner last season, because it was his belief that also raised the enthusiasm of the players so they could play with the right strategy to face every opponent.

Manchester city has remained consistent so I am also waiting for the new formation that Guardiola will use next season, of course he understands which ones need to be repaired and also replaced, that is why Guardiola is smart in choosing the players he wants to compete in next season.
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