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If Madrid succeeds in bringing Mbappe from PSG, of course it will be a challenge for Manchester city if they meet again next season, even though I am a Manchester City supporter, of course Madrid will be the strongest club which might make it difficult for Manchester City to qualify to win the UCL next season. Mbappe's presence will make Madrid a dangerous club.

Manchester city has so far become the strongest club in Europe by getting the treble winner last season, that's why they have to be able to maintain their performance and consistency in playing in the UCL next season, even though there are several new players brought in to Manchester City who also need to adapt, at least quickly adapt to other players ,

Madrid is the best club in the world if they talk about playing champions league, they are the best club that won 14 champions league trophy, it is difficult to beat Madrid in champions league but man-city play nice game to defeat them, last season Manchester city perform very well to win trophy, Guardiola is a great Coach, he try is best to make his teams to win champions league, premier league, and Fa cup, they are the best club last season. I believe that if Mbappe comes to Real Madrid, it will be difficult for any club to defeat Real Madrid, even if Mbappe does not join next season. Madrid will continue to do well because they have signed some fresh talented players.

Real Madrid will be the one that I look forward to next season to be the winner of UCL. If Mbappe come to Madrid,it means that there will be no doubt that Madrid will be the winner because the club will be unstoppable and not even Man city will dare to stop them. Real Madrid foot ball history lies in the champions league and I don't think that they will want to be deprived from it next season. Man city is strong but I will say present and not in the nearest future,nobody know what will happen next but I think man city wouldn't be able to win the champions league back to back.

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We are only 1 week away from first round qualifying of UCL.

There are so many matches to come soon.

1. The match between hacken and new saints is pretty hard to predict. Even though bookies was favoring hacken but new saints has good performance last season. It was at top position of cymru premier. If we are taking a look at the standing and hacken was not on top of allsvenskan league.

Since the game will be played in hacken's home and it will have many advantage compared with new saints FC.

2. Farul vs sheriff is a bit easy to predict. Farul has been getting perfect result in romanian league while sheriff is not as strong as farul.

Im sure farul gonna win easily against sheriff. The gap between both is very far.

3. The match between a club from slovak super league vs luxemburg national division.

Slovak has become favorite in this match. Swift has a very impressive performance in LND but it's quite hard to deterimne which gonna have more chance to win the match. What do you think of this match?

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Who will most likely win the UEFA Champions League in 2023/2024? My support is with Barcelona. Who are you with?

It would better if you are not quiting thread.

Here's current prediction for team that potentially to win UCL.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/betting/football/champions-league-winner-odds/

It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league.
In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.

I think the first place on this list should be Manchester City, and the second place should be Real Madrid. A ranking in which Real Madrid did not achieve second place does not seem objective to me. If they transfer Mbappe, I think this win rate can go up to 20%. I think 33% probability is very high for Manchester City. It should have been less likely.

Even with the arrival of Bellingham, Real Madrid could not be in second place and maybe this table seems strange enough to predict who will win the champions league next season. Even so, even though Real Madrid has Kylian Mbappe, his position will not be able to climb to second place and it is likely that Real Madrid will not be seeded again like the previous season. But I think Real Madrid's current position is good enough because they don't need to be at the top to prove who is the real king of Europe's highest competition.

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Quote from: X-ray on July 04, 2023, 02:14:33 AM

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Here's current prediction for team that potentially to win UCL.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/betting/football/champions-league-winner-odds/

It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league.
In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.

I think that a 1% difference is a trifle and there is no point in making changes because of this, but the position of Bavaria, which is 4% higher than Real Madrid, raises questions. In my opinion, Bayern is in an obvious downtrend and I don’t see that their management is trying to reverse this trend (with real purchases and not mantras), while Real is in the process of restructuring and they are seriously strengthening.

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Personally, I think PSG's owners should learn from Manchester City's example.
Both clubs have very rich owners, but Manchester City is still a more successful club than PSG. Why is that so?
Why did Manchester City finally manage to win the Champions League and PSG not even though they have three of the best footballers in the world, Mbappe, Neymar and Messi?
It is not enough to just bring the best players, you also need to have a top coach who will know how to create a strong team, as Pep for example.
Also, long-term systematic work and vision are needed, and PSG does not have that. How many coaches have they changed in recent years?
What about Manchester City? Grin

I totally agree with you on this. The reason why they haven't been doing well in the Champions League is completely the owners' fault. They have changed their manager so many times so far but they still couldn't find the right one. Instead of making this many changes they should have just brought one of the best managers and been patient about him.

Ancelotti was brought here in 2012 but stayed only for one season. He joined Real Madrid after that. I think PSG should have done their best to keep Ancelotti back then. Because looking at their history of managers he has been the best manager choice in last 10 years. I think they could have already been champions with him in the Champions League.

When a club find it so difficult to picture out a good coach that can work for the club it is usually a problem, let's look at Chelsea, the club have been struggling with getting a good coach and for some period of time they have changed different coaches, all this times they have been able to come out with a very poor results at the end of the season. Chelseas has good players but their performance is still very poor, I think this is the same issue PSG is experiencing having good players but no good coach.

For a team to do very well the club needs to consider to get a good coach , because just having quality players most times won't make the team to win trophies. A experienced coach who knows how to win games is very important.

It is very clear that the role of a coach is very vital in a football club, because they play a major role in the whole process of training and preparation before matches so that they are able to create a solid and strong team when competing.
Chlesea and PSG are big clubs and have many great players, but all of this will not have a big impact if it is not handled by the right and great coach.
and because the coach determines the results of a team from a football club in one season, his role is very vital and far more vital than a player even though the player is great. And it is the coach who will determine the fate of the club to be at the top, middle or bottom of the standings, so indeed their role is very vital and it is the coach who determines the fate of the club in the standings and also as a champion.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on July 04, 2023, 03:38:25 AM

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Madrid is not the best team in the world but they're the favorite team when it comes to Champions league trophy. It's baffling how Madrid will be playing awkwardly in the league game but plays nice game in UCL same week with same players. I guess they prefer UCL trophy to any other. With or without Mbappe, Madrid will struggle against city with the current form of each team.

Are you serious about this statement, please show me a valid source that says Real Madrid is not the best team in the world.
Real Madrid is one of the best teams in the world with many trophies won. they are the only team that has collected the most Champions League trophies, in the domestic league its status is also the team that has collected the most La Liga trophies.
Real Madrid ended last season in failure, they failed in the Champions League and La Liga. This failure cannot punish Real Madrid as a team that cannot excel, Real Madrid knows what must be done to turn failure into success.

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Who will most likely win the UEFA Champions League in 2023/2024? My support is with Barcelona. Who are you with?

It would better if you are not quiting thread.

Here's current prediction for team that potentially to win UCL.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/betting/football/champions-league-winner-odds/

It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league.
In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.

I think the first place on this list should be Manchester City, and the second place should be Real Madrid. A ranking in which Real Madrid did not achieve second place does not seem objective to me. If they transfer Mbappe, I think this win rate can go up to 20%. I think 33% probability is very high for Manchester City. It should have been less likely.

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Quote from: Luzin on July 04, 2023, 06:43:36 AM

Man City UCL Champions after almost 7 years with Pep Guardiola. And Real Madrid, a club that can win back-to-back with the same coach Zidane, and Benitez, Di Mateo, and Anceloti seem like lucky coaches to have the UCL Cup in just one year in charge. For the rest of the new period I don't see coaches as lucky as them. It seems that financial support and quality coaches for the team will make the club more likely to win the UCL.

I absolutely agree. Liverpool didn't win the UCL in 2019 by following the same strategies they used in years prior to that. After several lacklustre seasons, they brought in Mane, Salah, Kloop, Allison, VVD to name a few. What happened next? They won several trophies including the UCL. My point is that a lot can chsnge when you assemble the right fit players with a very good coach.

Man city didn't win the UCL in 2021/2022 following a defeat to Madrid. After that loss, they went back to the drawing board and knew they had to bring in a top tier attacker. That's how Haaland came into the picture. PSG wouldn't have let Tuchel go despite him not winning the UCL.

- One of the problems PSG faces is unstable coaching management

- As well as not strengthening areas of their squad that needs to be strengthen especially their defense.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on July 04, 2023, 03:54:12 AM

Ancelotti was brought here in 2012 but stayed only for one season. He joined Real Madrid after that. I think PSG should have done their best to keep Ancelotti back then. Because looking at their history of managers he has been the best manager choice in last 10 years. I think they could have already been champions with him in the Champions League.

Man City UCL Champions after almost 7 years with Pep Guardiola. And Real Madrid, a club that can win back-to-back with the same coach Zidane, and Benitez, Di Mateo, and Anceloti seem like lucky coaches to have the UCL Cup in just one year in charge. For the rest of the new period I don't see coaches as lucky as them. It seems that financial support and quality coaches for the team will make the club more likely to win the UCL.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on July 02, 2023, 10:02:50 AM

Personally, I think PSG's owners should learn from Manchester City's example.
Both clubs have very rich owners, but Manchester City is still a more successful club than PSG. Why is that so?
Why did Manchester City finally manage to win the Champions League and PSG not even though they have three of the best footballers in the world, Mbappe, Neymar and Messi?
It is not enough to just bring the best players, you also need to have a top coach who will know how to create a strong team, as Pep for example.
Also, long-term systematic work and vision are needed, and PSG does not have that. How many coaches have they changed in recent years?
What about Manchester City? Grin

I totally agree with you on this. The reason why they haven't been doing well in the Champions League is completely the owners' fault. They have changed their manager so many times so far but they still couldn't find the right one. Instead of making this many changes they should have just brought one of the best managers and been patient about him.

Ancelotti was brought here in 2012 but stayed only for one season. He joined Real Madrid after that. I think PSG should have done their best to keep Ancelotti back then. Because looking at their history of managers he has been the best manager choice in last 10 years. I think they could have already been champions with him in the Champions League.

When a club find it so difficult to picture out a good coach that can work for the club it is usually a problem, let's look at Chelsea, the club have been struggling with getting a good coach and for some period of time they have changed different coaches, all this times they have been able to come out with a very poor results at the end of the season. Chelseas has good players but their performance is still very poor, I think this is the same issue PSG is experiencing having good players but no good coach.

For a team to do very well the club needs to consider to get a good coach , because just having quality players most times won't make the team to win trophies. A experienced coach who knows how to win games is very important.

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If Madrid succeeds in bringing Mbappe from PSG, of course it will be a challenge for Manchester city if they meet again next season, even though I am a Manchester City supporter, of course Madrid will be the strongest club which might make it difficult for Manchester City to qualify to win the UCL next season. Mbappe's presence will make Madrid a dangerous club.

Manchester city has so far become the strongest club in Europe by getting the treble winner last season, that's why they have to be able to maintain their performance and consistency in playing in the UCL next season, even though there are several new players brought in to Manchester City who also need to adapt, at least quickly adapt to other players ,

Real Madrid are still trying to get Mbappe from PSG even though there has been no official news until now. Benzema departure has forced Real Madrid to focus on the striker position. Mbappe is a perfect fit to fill the position left by Benzema because of his quality, there is no need to doubt him. The problem is PSG are not ready to part with Mbappe even though he has refused a contract extension, PSG are still trying to keep Mbappe until his contract expires.

Real Madrid needs to find a solution in an uncertain situation, they must turn their attention to other players if the Mbappe transfer process is too complicated. The humiliating defeat to Manchester City in the second leg of the semi-finals last season left Real Madrid helpless at Manchester City headquarters, as the ruling team in the UCL Real Madrid must be able to compete again with Manchester City next season.

@reagansimms I don’t think that Real Madrid want him because of his surreal wage demands and I feel that they’ll target other player’s and PSG is hoping in that scenario he’ll commit to a longer deal. Furthermore Real Madrid needs to invest heavily otherwise they won’t win the CL this season too and so far I haven’t seen them make any big moves hence I’m hoping that they’ll buy some quality player’s before the transfer window closes.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on July 02, 2023, 10:02:50 AM

Personally, I think PSG's owners should learn from Manchester City's example.
Both clubs have very rich owners, but Manchester City is still a more successful club than PSG. Why is that so?
Why did Manchester City finally manage to win the Champions League and PSG not even though they have three of the best footballers in the world, Mbappe, Neymar and Messi?
It is not enough to just bring the best players, you also need to have a top coach who will know how to create a strong team, as Pep for example.
Also, long-term systematic work and vision are needed, and PSG does not have that. How many coaches have they changed in recent years?
What about Manchester City? Grin

I totally agree with you on this. The reason why they haven't been doing well in the Champions League is completely the owners' fault. They have changed their manager so many times so far but they still couldn't find the right one. Instead of making this many changes they should have just brought one of the best managers and been patient about him.

Ancelotti was brought here in 2012 but stayed only for one season. He joined Real Madrid after that. I think PSG should have done their best to keep Ancelotti back then. Because looking at their history of managers he has been the best manager choice in last 10 years. I think they could have already been champions with him in the Champions League.

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Quote from: Adams0001 on July 04, 2023, 02:40:27 AM

Madrid is the best club in the world if they talk about playing champions league, they are the best club that won 14 champions league trophy, it is difficult to beat Madrid in champions league but man-city play nice game to defeat them, last season Manchester city perform very well to win trophy, Guardiola is a great Coach, he try is best to make his teams to win champions league, premier league, and Fa cup, they are the best club last season. I believe that if Mbappe comes to Real Madrid, it will be difficult for any club to defeat Real Madrid, even if Mbappe does not join next season. Madrid will continue to do well because they have signed some fresh talented players.

Madrid is not the best team in the world but they're the favorite team when it comes to Champions league trophy. It's baffling how Madrid will be playing awkwardly in the league game but plays nice game in UCL same week with same players. I guess they prefer UCL trophy to any other. With or without Mbappe, Madrid will struggle against city with the current form of each team.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 04, 2023, 02:12:23 AM

If Madrid succeeds in bringing Mbappe from PSG, of course it will be a challenge for Manchester city if they meet again next season, even though I am a Manchester City supporter, of course Madrid will be the strongest club which might make it difficult for Manchester City to qualify to win the UCL next season. Mbappe's presence will make Madrid a dangerous club.

Manchester city has so far become the strongest club in Europe by getting the treble winner last season, that's why they have to be able to maintain their performance and consistency in playing in the UCL next season, even though there are several new players brought in to Manchester City who also need to adapt, at least quickly adapt to other players ,

Real Madrid are still trying to get Mbappe from PSG even though there has been no official news until now. Benzema departure has forced Real Madrid to focus on the striker position. Mbappe is a perfect fit to fill the position left by Benzema because of his quality, there is no need to doubt him. The problem is PSG are not ready to part with Mbappe even though he has refused a contract extension, PSG are still trying to keep Mbappe until his contract expires.

Real Madrid needs to find a solution in an uncertain situation, they must turn their attention to other players if the Mbappe transfer process is too complicated. The humiliating defeat to Manchester City in the second leg of the semi-finals last season left Real Madrid helpless at Manchester City headquarters, as the ruling team in the UCL Real Madrid must be able to compete again with Manchester City next season.

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This can be one of the reasons that makes sense actually because looking at the current condition of PSG they don't seem to have a condition that can be proud of in terms of their management which makes the money they spend seem to be useless.
Even though we know that the Champions League is not a place that anyone can enter but should be with PSG's finances they can talk more than now.
They always focus on ready-made players is also one of their tendencies to struggle a little because they always buy old machines like Ramos or Messi, which even though their names are unquestionable but their qualifications are clearly reduced due to age.
In addition, when the competition factor is also lacking in the domestic league, I think this makes their conditions more difficult when they are in tough competitions because if you look at other competitions such as La Liga or EPL it can be said that the competition in Ligue 1 is much easier which makes them accustomed to competitions that are not too difficult to make them fail to adapt to high competitions such as the Champions League.

PSG still didn't succeed in the champions league last season even though their squad last season was quite strong. But yes they failed to show their best power in last season. Even Neymar had to be absent and that was one of the deficiencies that might have greatly impacted their performance in the Champions League last season. For next season I think PSG is still very much counted as the strongest team in the Champions League. Mbappe has found a new front line duel for next season after Asensio joined in this season's transfer window. I think Neymar will also stay with PSG for next season so their front line is still very strong for next season. Even though Messi has left, PSG still has a pretty good sharpness on their front line. PSG only needs a coach who really understands to lead them to become the strongest team in the Champions League next season. After Galtier was fired it looks like Luis Enrique will become coach for PSG next season after Fabrizio Romano confirmed that PSG had reached an agreement with Luis Enrique.

I also think the same because PSG will definitely continue to be reckoned with, but everything will be the same when they only focus on what I said before.
Now there is a bit of a difference from them in terms of transfers because looking at some of the players who have come this season for PSG such as Asensio, Lucas Hernandez, Lee Kang In and Milan Skriniar at least they are not looking for players over 30 years old as before especially with Asensio who is actually still very good or the defensive strength of Lee Kang In in the previous world cup is quite good and of course we know Milan Skriniar has also been quite good at Milan this can add to their strength.
It's just that still in this case their mindset needs to be changed especially with the significant differences in Ligue 1 and the Champions League in terms of competition of course they must be aware of that because if they only equate Ligue 1 and the Champions League forever PSG will be the same and cannot develop in the Champions League even though they are one of the favourites.

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Quote from: piebeyb on July 04, 2023, 02:12:23 AM

If Madrid succeeds in bringing Mbappe from PSG, of course it will be a challenge for Manchester city if they meet again next season, even though I am a Manchester City supporter, of course Madrid will be the strongest club which might make it difficult for Manchester City to qualify to win the UCL next season. Mbappe's presence will make Madrid a dangerous club.

Manchester city has so far become the strongest club in Europe by getting the treble winner last season, that's why they have to be able to maintain their performance and consistency in playing in the UCL next season, even though there are several new players brought in to Manchester City who also need to adapt, at least quickly adapt to other players ,

Madrid is the best club in the world if they talk about playing champions league, they are the best club that won 14 champions league trophy, it is difficult to beat Madrid in champions league but man-city play nice game to defeat them, last season Manchester city perform very well to win trophy, Guardiola is a great Coach, he try is best to make his teams to win champions league, premier league, and Fa cup, they are the best club last season. I believe that if Mbappe comes to Real Madrid, it will be difficult for any club to defeat Real Madrid, even if Mbappe does not join next season. Madrid will continue to do well because they have signed some fresh talented players.

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Quote from: Kalam001 on July 03, 2023, 05:02:29 PM

Who will most likely win the UEFA Champions League in 2023/2024? My support is with Barcelona. Who are you with?

It would better if you are not quiting thread.

Here's current prediction for team that potentially to win UCL.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/betting/football/champions-league-winner-odds/

It's based on other's opinion. I prefer to replace PSG with real madrid. Bayern must also be placed under real madrid. I do know that the leave from benzema has been decreasing confidence from people to pick madrid as favorite club to win the league.
In my opinion if we are also missing, serie a club from the list. I will prefer to put intermilan on the list but that' based on the bookmakers' favorite list.

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Quote from: len01 on July 04, 2023, 01:54:04 AM

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There is always a time and season for everything and Manchester city are certainly in their prime time and I won't be surprise if they could go on secure the champion league once, although it will be difficult but I know its not an impossible task and I certainly believe pep guardiola to be a man to achieve this feat again. Currently Manchester city are the just on fire and guardiola will do everything in his powers to maintain this form if only injuries to vital players doesn't have a different opinion to their next season campaign.

the most important thing is experience and Guardiola has successfully achieved all of that so Guardiola knows what must be done to be able to get another title in the UCL later. and right now we know that Man City is in a very strong condition. On the other hand, Guardiola is looking for additional new players to strengthen the entire line so that he can implement the strategy that he will use again in the following season.
it is not surprising that Guardiola is currently too eager to continue educating his players and relies on several players to be able to achieve the success that must be achieved again in the next few seasons. as long as Guardiola can be consistent with what he achieved in the previous season and Man City players can be consistent with all strategies I think it will not be impossible to get a trophy in the champions league again.

If Madrid succeeds in bringing Mbappe from PSG, of course it will be a challenge for Manchester city if they meet again next season, even though I am a Manchester City supporter, of course Madrid will be the strongest club which might make it difficult for Manchester City to qualify to win the UCL next season. Mbappe's presence will make Madrid a dangerous club.

Manchester city has so far become the strongest club in Europe by getting the treble winner last season, that's why they have to be able to maintain their performance and consistency in playing in the UCL next season, even though there are several new players brought in to Manchester City who also need to adapt, at least quickly adapt to other players ,

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on July 03, 2023, 05:29:41 PM

There is always a time and season for everything and Manchester city are certainly in their prime time and I won't be surprise if they could go on secure the champion league once, although it will be difficult but I know its not an impossible task and I certainly believe pep guardiola to be a man to achieve this feat again. Currently Manchester city are the just on fire and guardiola will do everything in his powers to maintain this form if only injuries to vital players doesn't have a different opinion to their next season campaign.

the most important thing is experience and Guardiola has successfully achieved all of that so Guardiola knows what must be done to be able to get another title in the UCL later. and right now we know that Man City is in a very strong condition. On the other hand, Guardiola is looking for additional new players to strengthen the entire line so that he can implement the strategy that he will use again in the following season.
it is not surprising that Guardiola is currently too eager to continue educating his players and relies on several players to be able to achieve the success that must be achieved again in the next few seasons. as long as Guardiola can be consistent with what he achieved in the previous season and Man City players can be consistent with all strategies I think it will not be impossible to get a trophy in the champions league again.

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I can't even describe my feeling. Sevilla has been winning europa league. The club will be playing in UCL next season without all of its main squads. Sevilla gonna be using secondary squads to play in UCL.
In my opinion if i will bet for the opposite thing against sevilla. I meant any team that will be facing sevilla in UCL gonna be favorite to win.

It's caused by sevilla will not be playing with its main squads. Sevilla needs to sell so many players as soon as possible. Mendilibar and sevilla's president agreed to put all of players in the transfer market. Sevilla will not able pass group stage.
Im sure about this.
The chance for sevilla to pass group stage will be very small if sevilla won't able to play with its main squads. Sevilla was almost bankrupt.

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