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June 26, 2023, 12:05:46 PM
Real Madrid is a strong team. And more importantly, they are a very experienced team. And Madrid's performance may not be too poor after losing Benzema, the most important player in the squad. Maybe their performance will remain stable. But I don't think the team will have the ability to win the title after losing such an important player. Because for the last few seasons, Madrid has been solely dependent on Benzema's performances. With the sudden loss of Benzema, it won't be easy for them to win against the big and renowned teams.

Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
Im still feeling bad with him right now even though he has good result last season but it's not even making me feel confidence with his performance.
Basically, real madrid is still using same squad as last season but there will be a slight change in the club like benzema replaced by joselu and bellingham could play to replace modric or kroos.

looking at the current squad of real madrid, we can easily conclude that it is not a squad that can be considered a strong candidate to win the champions league, in my opinion real madrid has not invested much money in the attack, for some reason they seem being very confident of rodrigo and vinicius, so with benzema leaving they focus only on getting a player to replace benzema, they don't look at players who can also replace vinicius and rodrigo, so it's something very strange, since real madrid stayed stuck in this thought that they have not been able to sign very famous players

maybe it's due to the disappointment they had in the last 3 seasons when they signed certain players (I won't mention their names) for a very high price but those players didn't play anything, they just made losses. but one thing is certain: real madrid next season will not be a strong candidate as it has been the case in recent times, even for real madrid to win la liga will be a very difficult task next season. we will see in the friendly matches that will take place next month how they will do, this will give us an idea of what we can expect from real madrid
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June 26, 2023, 11:57:47 AM


Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improve the quad or not.


That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.
I am beginning to believe that Bayern is becoming Chelsea in terms of decision-making. The way and manner Niggelsman was dismissed is a yardstick that can best measure Tuchel'a probability of staying in Bayern. He did excellently in Chelsea but may leave if he doesn't do the same at Bayern Munich. There are no two ways about it. For now, I think what the club desires is the result. lt.Naggelsmaan wasn't bad, Tuchel himself is a coach with a lot of Tactics. But at this moment, I think that was just his gloomy days which I believe will go away by next season. Tuchel needs more time
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June 26, 2023, 11:37:48 AM
Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
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You can't compare Benzema's performance in the past with Joselu, who is now taking his place at Real Madrid.
Benzema has won titles and also very good achievements while playing for Real Madrid and that happened at a time when he was still at a potential age, so it is only natural that now Benzema has a decline in playing skills because he is getting older at 35 years of age.

But yes, I hope Joselu really can be counted on for Real Madrid and in the next season he can bring Real Madrid close to the UCL trophy.
Joselu cannot be compared to Benzema, the quality of these two players is very much different. Joselu was once thrown out by Real Madrid because he was unable to compete with other players, while Benzema was able to maintain his performance since he was brought in from Lyon, he has also always been the first choice in the striker position. Real Madrid signed Joselu not to replace Benzema, for this reason he was not signed permanently by Real Madrid.

Joselu was only used as a substitute for the main striker, especially since Real Madrid had just lost Hazard, Mariano Diaz and Marco Asensio. Joselu arrival has not satisfied Real Madrid with his new signing, Perez still wants a world-class striker in the summer transfer market.
Mbappe was Perez main target to strengthen Madrid attack area, Perez also included another name as his target if he failed to bring in Mbappe, Harry Kane and Osimhen attracted Perez interest, who wanted Real Madrid to win La Liga and UCL again.
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June 26, 2023, 11:35:57 AM
Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
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You can't compare Benzema's performance in the past with Joselu, who is now taking his place at Real Madrid.
Benzema has won titles and also very good achievements while playing for Real Madrid and that happened at a time when he was still at a potential age, so it is only natural that now Benzema has a decline in playing skills because he is getting older at 35 years of age.

But yes, I hope Joselu really can be counted on for Real Madrid and in the next season he can bring Real Madrid close to the UCL trophy.
Karim Benzema was a very important player for Real Madrid. Karim Benzema was the captain and main striker of Real Madrid. He has performed very well for Real Madrid for as long as he has played for Real Madrid. Karim Benzema has won several titles for Real Madrid including La Liga(3), Copa del Rey(5) and UEFA Champions League titles(5). These titles next to his name for Real Madrid show how effective a player he was for Real Madrid. Age may have forced him to leave Real Madrid. He played at Real Madrid as long as age was not an issue. His achievement may be remembered by Real Madrid.
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June 26, 2023, 10:48:21 AM
 Left for me, i don't think Joselu  could come closer to the likes of Karim Benzema when it comes to replacing him as a top 9 of a big club like Realmadrid, better finishers the likes of Victor oshimen, Harry kane or even kylan mbappe would have been preferable.
Fans like us can only give opinions according to our own views, while the team management and coaches also have their own views in recruiting players into the team. I also don't know what Joselu sees from Real Madrid, while players like Victor Oshimen, Harry Kane or even Kylian Mbappe are very clear that they are all players who have made pretty good achievements in the team they have occupied. So Real Madrid fans can only hope for Joselu to be better than Karim Benzema.

Will Joselu be made permanent by Real Madrid? Because as far as I know Joselu is only a loan player and also, Joselu is old if he becomes a Real Madrid player. Therefore, I am sure that Real Madrid will not sign Joselu because even Real Madrid does not keep or will not sign old players who do not have great achievements and potential. Because yes, Real Madrid only retains old players who really have a big contribution to the team's performance, such as Luka Modric and Toni Kroos, for example, who are still in the Real Madrid squad so far.
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June 26, 2023, 10:27:55 AM
 Left for me, i don't think Joselu  could come closer to the likes of Karim Benzema when it comes to replacing him as a top 9 of a big club like Realmadrid, better finishers the likes of Victor oshimen, Harry kane or even kylan mbappe would have been preferable.
Fans like us can only give opinions according to our own views, while the team management and coaches also have their own views in recruiting players into the team. I also don't know what Joselu sees from Real Madrid, while players like Victor Oshimen, Harry Kane or even Kylian Mbappe are very clear that they are all players who have made pretty good achievements in the team they have occupied. So Real Madrid fans can only hope for Joselu to be better than Karim Benzema.
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June 26, 2023, 09:38:21 AM


Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improved squad or not.


That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.
For the few months Tuchel has been the coach of Bayern munich I wont be too fast to conclude if his performance as the coach was not good enough. I think the time tuchel was appointed as the coach of Bayern Munich, I don't think if any coach would come by that time to get use to the players so fast and  to give the best performance as a coach . Tuchel tried his best to make sure that Bayern Munich didn't lose the championship even if when he was appointed as coach was not the best time to start up the job.

Bayern Munich still needs to give tuchel chance to deliver what he has for the team, i don't have any doubt on Tuchel because he was able to perform very well as coach for Chelsea.  Chelsea won the Champions League under tuchel as coach, this can only be achieved from a coach that knows what he is doing. I strongly believe Tuchel can do a great job for Bayern Munich with all his experience he has, Bayern Munich just need to give him time to see what he can offer for the club.  
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June 26, 2023, 09:02:59 AM
Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
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You can't compare Benzema's performance in the past with Joselu, who is now taking his place at Real Madrid.
Benzema has won titles and also very good achievements while playing for Real Madrid and that happened at a time when he was still at a potential age, so it is only natural that now Benzema has a decline in playing skills because he is getting older at 35 years of age.

But yes, I hope Joselu really can be counted on for Real Madrid and in the next season he can bring Real Madrid close to the UCL trophy.
Joselu playing with Mbappe in same team is a winning squad for me. I know a player like Mbappe would meet the requirements because Real Madrid is a team that has fast players and they rely on swift counter attack in most games.
I don't know how long Modric has on his contract with Madrid, also considering his age, but am sure a player like him in mid field would be a good link between these two potential strikers.
The only issue would be Mbappe adapting to the team and living conditions of the new place. That's if he ends up joining the team as speculated during the transfers.
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June 26, 2023, 08:04:16 AM
Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
-snip-
You can't compare Benzema's performance in the past with Joselu, who is now taking his place at Real Madrid.
Benzema has won titles and also very good achievements while playing for Real Madrid and that happened at a time when he was still at a potential age, so it is only natural that now Benzema has a decline in playing skills because he is getting older at 35 years of age.

But yes, I hope Joselu really can be counted on for Real Madrid and in the next season he can bring Real Madrid close to the UCL trophy.
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June 26, 2023, 07:58:16 AM
I think that these clubs gonna be strong candidate to win UCL next season.

The most favorite club is still manchester city.

These teams will have big chances to go to the quarter final = Madrid, Inter milan, Barcelona, Munchen.

There are also so many strongest clubt but i think that those teams gonna be the most potential team next season. I don't even wanna mention arsenal caused by this club is always having bad result in UCL.

Newcastle is coming as a one of the strongest club in EPL. Im feeling so happy to see eddie howe's squad gonna play in UCL next season.



First UCL qualifying round will be started soon.

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0282-1844a0d542df-012d8d001944-1000--first-qualifying-round-draw/

This will be deciding which clubs that will be able to go to the UCL, UEL or conference league.
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June 26, 2023, 07:27:13 AM
For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

Real Madrid will still be led by Ancelotti until next season and this will be the last chance to bring Real Madrid back to win the Champions League title with a much better squad than before. Meanwhile, Manchester City will still be the favorite champions for next season and that is undeniable with the depth of their current squad. But after being left by captain Gundogan who joined Barcelona, now Manchester City must find a new person who is able to lead this team on the field and it is Pep Guardiola's job to give this important task to one of his players. I agree that these two teams will still be strong candidates to win the champions league, but they must not be complacent because there will be several other strong European teams ready to surprise the match later.
maybe in the next season Real Madrid will still be in tight competition with Man City because the two coaches Ancelotti and Guardiola have pocketed their respective weaknesses from the strategy given in the champions league. on the one hand, Man City has already secured several players who will replace Gundogan to improve the team's performance and Real Madrid is also continuing to look for reliable players to be able to beat Man City next season.
I just imagine that if Harry Kane can be bought by Real Madrid and join Los Blancos I think it will not be impossible for Madrid to be able to win back the UCL title from Man City.
These two coaches are indeed very experienced in the champion league competition and it would not be surprising if later the two of them would meet again to bring their team to victory. Both Manchester City and Real Madrid have made improvements to the central side to get a new midfielder to organize attacks. On the other hand, if we talk about Harry Kane, it is too difficult to realize joining Real Madrid and there is no hope for Real Madrid to want to sign him because the transfer fee asked is too high for a 30-year-old striker. It's better for Real Madrid to save their money to prepare so they can get Mbappe, who is still young and much better.
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June 26, 2023, 07:02:09 AM
There is no sense in sacking a manager only after a few matches. Tuchel was brought by Bayern Munich in a really critical time period. This was absolutely a mistake by them that's for sure. Because you just can't make big decisions like this while you are getting close to the end of that season and still competing in even the Champions League on one hand. Tuchel had such a short time period to build a decent relationship with the players and apply his own strategies for the team.

Tuchel shouldn't be the one to blame here as a result. It was Bayern Munich officials' fault. After that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic both got sacked. Now Tuchel can comfortably prepare his players for new season to be competitive in the Bundesliga and Champions League both.
Yes, it's true that it won't have any effect if Tuchel is sacked. Those who expect Tuchel to be sacked just because he failed to UCL have never thought maturely that to make a great club it takes time to approach players let alone manage new players he meets, it's not entirely TUchel's fault. it's just because the players are less effective so it's wrong to blame the manager just for failing.

Tuchel came at the wrong time for that I think sacking him was a fatal mistake because it's useless if changing managers it will take more time to perfect the desired playing style, moreover everything needs a process because there is no instant process in football that's why if one full season Tuchel was with Munich but it ended badly maybe we can blame that, but Tuchel's arrival has not been a full season so he is not to blame.
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June 26, 2023, 07:01:54 AM
Real Madrid is a strong team. And more importantly, they are a very experienced team. And Madrid's performance may not be too poor after losing Benzema, the most important player in the squad. Maybe their performance will remain stable. But I don't think the team will have the ability to win the title after losing such an important player. Because for the last few seasons, Madrid has been solely dependent on Benzema's performances. With the sudden loss of Benzema, it won't be easy for them to win against the big and renowned teams.

Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
Im still feeling bad with him right now even though he has good result last season but it's not even making me feel confidence with his performance.
Basically, real madrid is still using same squad as last season but there will be a slight change in the club like benzema replaced by joselu and bellingham could play to replace modric or kroos.
 Left for me, i don't think Joselu  could come closer to the likes of Karim Benzema when it comes to replacing him as a top 9 of a big club like Realmadrid, better finishers the likes of Victor oshimen, Harry kane or even kylan mbappe would have been preferable.

 Judging from joselu's stats in 2022/23 season for Espanyol he had 16 goals in 34 matches added with 2 assists, well that might be good for a player of his age but not up to standards for a club like Realmadrid, they need a constant goal scorer like halland that would help them challenge for the UEFA championship title again, of which I'll prefer victor oshimen to be in that position, the  Napoli top 9 would perfectly replace Karim with ease because he's younger, a perfect finisher with pace, good scoring mentality and assists  from modric and vini jnr would make it easier for him to attain a better scoring record of the 2022/23 campaign in Napoli having 26 goals in 32 matches with 4 assists, better than that of joselu's.
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June 26, 2023, 06:46:14 AM
I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.
Bayern munchen's directors thought that if its club will able to win treble winnners by signed tuchel as a new coach but the fact that if bayern was almost trophyless if it was not lucky enough at the last matchday. Im feeling doubt about bayern's performance next season.
UCL has become the main target but seeing how strong manchester city right now makes me feel doubt if bayern will have chance to take it from manchester city. Even im not sure if real madrid will able to take back UCL trophy next season.
The competition will become even more competitive.
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June 26, 2023, 04:57:45 AM
There is no sense in sacking a manager only after a few matches. Tuchel was brought by Bayern Munich in a really critical time period. This was absolutely a mistake by them that's for sure. Because you just can't make big decisions like this while you are getting close to the end of that season and still competing in even the Champions League on one hand. Tuchel had such a short time period to build a decent relationship with the players and apply his own strategies for the team.

Tuchel shouldn't be the one to blame here as a result. It was Bayern Munich officials' fault. After that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic both got sacked. Now Tuchel can comfortably prepare his players for new season to be competitive in the Bundesliga and Champions League both.
Blaming Tuchel for the failure of Bayern Munich is unfair. He was brought in when the season was already ending and he didn't have enough time to study the team and rearrange them for the needed result. It was really embarrassing to see his team crash out of the Champion league quarter-final after losing to Villarreal. It takes time for a coach to get the loyalty and support of a new set of players. Maybe people are expecting him to replicate his performance in Chelsea when he took over the club mid-season after the sack of Frank Lampard. He is not a magician, so couldn't perform any miracle.

I said it from the unset that the management of Bayern Munich will hold him responsible for the performance of the club next season. They should ensure he gets all the players he needs and those he doesn't want should be offloaded from the team. The sack of Kahn and Salihamidzic  will help him because it will give him freedom and make him take control of the team. He had a bitter and sweet time with Chelsea and it will be nice to see what he can do with a club in his home country, Germany.   
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June 26, 2023, 04:26:33 AM
There is no sense in sacking a manager only after a few matches. Tuchel was brought by Bayern Munich in a really critical time period. This was absolutely a mistake by them that's for sure. Because you just can't make big decisions like this while you are getting close to the end of that season and still competing in even the Champions League on one hand. Tuchel had such a short time period to build a decent relationship with the players and apply his own strategies for the team.

Tuchel shouldn't be the one to blame here as a result. It was Bayern Munich officials' fault. After that we saw Kahn and Salihamidzic both got sacked. Now Tuchel can comfortably prepare his players for new season to be competitive in the Bundesliga and Champions League both.
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June 26, 2023, 04:03:40 AM
Real Madrid is a strong team. And more importantly, they are a very experienced team. And Madrid's performance may not be too poor after losing Benzema, the most important player in the squad. Maybe their performance will remain stable. But I don't think the team will have the ability to win the title after losing such an important player. Because for the last few seasons, Madrid has been solely dependent on Benzema's performances. With the sudden loss of Benzema, it won't be easy for them to win against the big and renowned teams.

Let's see how good joselu can replace benzema as a striker. We do know that how good benzema in the past. He has been winning so many UCL with real madrid. Madrid can only rely with joselu right now which has been loaned from espanyol.
Im still feeling bad with him right now even though he has good result last season but it's not even making me feel confidence with his performance.
Basically, real madrid is still using same squad as last season but there will be a slight change in the club like benzema replaced by joselu and bellingham could play to replace modric or kroos.
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June 26, 2023, 03:24:24 AM


Tuchel has done bearly 3 month in Bayern Munich, I don't think there was much impact so far he has done though I think his presence might be a factor but if at all changing the players style of game would have made them had some problems but now that every players are on holiday, he would by now working on tips to make thingswork for team and perhaps his style of Chelsea will do something good over there.
Jude Bellingham is the only Midfielder I have seen and I know will make best of Real Madrid, Mbape is still uncomfirm, no bid, no words and no information has been made public to warrant if Real Madrid will improved squad or not.


That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

I think it's too early for him to be sacked, but given the way Nagelsmann was dismissed, anything could happen. Thomas Tuchel had successful matches and tournaments with Chelsea. This was the main selection factor for Bayern Munich because they have been winning the league for a long time. Now they want to win UCL. If Tuchel can do that, he can coach Bayern for a long time.
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June 26, 2023, 03:15:41 AM
The Champions League in particular is never a safe bet, but it also makes it the most interesting competition if you ask me. All the little things that decide between success and failure. Some individual toP performances of one player or an unlucky penalty and so many other things. You need strong and consistent performances and you usually won't win it without luck. Depending on how good a team performs, luck is still a contributing factor. And yet I would also say that Manchester City is again the favorite in terms of the odds. It is like if I had to choose a team, I would choose Manchester City.

Considering the most recent result and how strong Manchester City are most people would side with them to win the title 2 times in a row. However it is really risky to bet on them anyway. Because mostly we see different champions in consecutive years. Therefore it is a big risk to bet so much money on Manchester City at a really low odd. But if one is just planning to bet on them just for fun with a small amount then it wouldn't be important if they lose their bet of course.

But to have fun about this I think the best thing to do is to bet on a team with a much higher odd and watch the journey of that team in the Champions League.  Grin

It is that the odds are against you, right. Some will now bring up the example of Real Madrid and how they won it three times in a row, but that's not the new standard now and Real Madrid also had a lot of luck. Just speaking from the perspective of a better: if a bettor bet on Real Madrid against Manchester City in the semi finals when Real Madrid was down two goals until the 90th minute, who is the person to tell me that a bettor would still feel confident in the 90th minute when in order for his bet to win Real Madrid would need to score twice only to make it into overtime? That was so much luck. It is right as you said it, the odds are against someone betting on two consecutive wins of the title.
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June 26, 2023, 02:56:20 AM
It is too early to make sure about Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Because it hasn't been even much time since we entered the summer transfer window. There is a long time period ahead of the teams to make their signings and be prepared for the Champions League journey. Until finding out the final version of their squads it is difficult to be confident about something.
For me Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern munich are the 3 strongest football teams in the world in the last few years and therefore they are always among the top favorites to win the Champions League before the start of the season.
This time though it is not sure yet how strong Real Madrid a d especially Bayern Munich will really be, because both teams still need to make some important transfers in order to strenghthen their sqads. Real has already signed Bellingham while has not made any big transfer yet.

Manchester City, Munich, and Madrid are very strong teams. These three teams are favorites and perform well in the Champions League platform every season. But we don't know how Munich and Madrid will play next season. Their performance is likely to deteriorate. Bayern Munich did not perform well last season. Their performance was not stable. Their performances have become more erratic after the change of coach. On the other hand, Real Madrid's main striker and scorer Benzema has left the team. And unless Madrid finds a suitable replacement for Benzema, it will be difficult for them to perform consistently well.

Yes, Manchester City, Real Madrid, and Bayern Munich are great teams in the world currently, but league and champions league as for me, despite Madrid did not perform well in the league, they are good in the champions league Madrid has signed new players now Jude Bellingham, Fren Garcia, and Brahim Diaz  And since Benzema left Real Madrid, they have been looking for the best striker to replace him, and I believe mbappe will join them this summer to be a good replacement for Benzema, while Bayern Munich's performance has been very poor since the coach changed, and they need to buy players before the new season begins. Even though Manchester City did not make any new signings, they will do well again next season.
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