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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

Seeing the opportunity to be the strongest candidate next season, I admit that Real Madrid and Manchester City still dominate to become the strongest team to win a trophy. Because they have strong strength in the depth of their squad plus Manchester City who had the best quality players last season, of course they are a team that will be highly reckoned with next season.

Now, if you see the other team's opportunities, maybe they will have great difficulty in providing big resistance for the two teams. However, a number of new challengers are coming back next season such as Manchester United and Barcelona. I think these two teams have relatively good progress after what they have done in the domestic league this season.

To be honest, I always put Real Madrid in the list of names of clubs that will be a big consideration to win the Champions League, for some reason I saw something different from Real Madrid when they were in the Champions League. Maybe for some people what I say is a bit of an exaggeration, but that's not a problem because of course we will always have a different view of the clubs every season.
Yes you are right, that now Mamnchester City has everything they need, they are one of the most stable clubs in recent seasons and they proved that by winning the Champions League this season.

@Jody.Drummer both these team’s have lost a crucial player i.e. Benzema and Gündoğan hence it’ll be very important to see who they buy because if they don’t get quality replacements then they’ll have a difficult time especially in the champions league. Furthermore another team you’ll have ignored is Barcelona and while last season I didn’t think much of them but now I feel that they’ll be a tricky opponent to play against in the champions league.

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Quote from: arimamib on June 26, 2023, 05:44:50 PM

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For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

Seeing the opportunity to be the strongest candidate next season, I admit that Real Madrid and Manchester City still dominate to become the strongest team to win a trophy. Because they have strong strength in the depth of their squad plus Manchester City who had the best quality players last season, of course they are a team that will be highly reckoned with next season.

Now, if you see the other team's opportunities, maybe they will have great difficulty in providing big resistance for the two teams. However, a number of new challengers are coming back next season such as Manchester United and Barcelona. I think these two teams have relatively good progress after what they have done in the domestic league this season.

TBH I've always put Real Madrid on the list of clubs that would be a big consideration to win the Champions League, somehow I see something different about Real Madrid when they are in the Champions League. Maybe for some people what I say is a bit exaggerated, but it doesn't matter because of course we will always have different views on clubs every season.
It's true that right now Mamnchester City have everything they need, they are one of the most stable clubs in recent seasons and they proved it by winning the Champions League this season.

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Joselu is a very talented player. Last season we saw excellent performances from Joselu, even with a weak team like Espanyol. Joselu is quite an experienced player. I think Joselu will be able to play better with a stable and experienced squad like Real Madrid. But I would have been happy if the Madrid management had chosen Kane or Mbappe as a replacement for Benzema. If these two players were added to the Madrid team, Madrid's attack would have become stronger.

Juselu is not as bad as people make him t seem. He is not world class but he is certainly not a bad player. He is a perfect fit for a short term replacement for Benzema.
Madrid do not know if they would sign Mbappe this season and Kane even looks more difficult, because in the case of Mbappe, he actually wants to join Real Madrid, he doesn't need much convincing.
Its just a matter of time before Mbappe becomes a Madrid player. It might happen this summer too because Madrid are very optimistic about the deal.

Joselu is indeed Benzema's short-term replacement and I agree with you that as a 33 year old striker of course it will be a short journey with Real Madrid and therefore Real Madrid only want to borrow him from Espanyol for a season. At this time, Real Madrid clearly still needs a replacement that is commensurate with Benzema, of course, one that wants to survive and can be consistent for more than 5 seasons.

Especially in the Champions League competition, Real Madrid has never played for strikers and they always try their best to bring in competent strikers. Mbappe's radar is still gray at the moment and the clarity of the player's interest in Real Madrid is not so convincing but if Real Madrid can sign him for a lower price than the clause wanted by PSG then it will become a reality this summer.

I don't think Joselu is a good signing for Real Madrid, in fact I am very pessimistic that this player can keep up with the Real Madrid team's play, what Real Madrid did was exaggerated fear when they failed to get Mbappe and there was no substitute for Benzema.
I am very disappointed with what Real Madrid have done, they should have found a more suitable forward to fill the void left by Benzema.
If Real Madrid are not serious about improving to overshadow next season, it is not impossible that they will be eliminated early in next season's UCL competition.

Real Madrid's striker should always be a star name. It always has been. Real Madrid fans all over the world know the name of that star striker. My expectation was for Mbappe or Kane. Unless there is a name similar to these names, Real Madrid will always lack a striker. I'm not saying Joselu is a bad player, but he's not a star player. While waiting for Real Madrid Mbappe's contract that will expire next year, it seems that he will continue on his way without a star striker for a season.

We know what Benzema did in the champions league. A striker is very important to a team. Therefore, the person who will replace Benzema must be at least as good as Benzema.

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Joselu is a very talented player. Last season we saw excellent performances from Joselu, even with a weak team like Espanyol. Joselu is quite an experienced player. I think Joselu will be able to play better with a stable and experienced squad like Real Madrid. But I would have been happy if the Madrid management had chosen Kane or Mbappe as a replacement for Benzema. If these two players were added to the Madrid team, Madrid's attack would have become stronger.

Juselu is not as bad as people make him t seem. He is not world class but he is certainly not a bad player. He is a perfect fit for a short term replacement for Benzema.
Madrid do not know if they would sign Mbappe this season and Kane even looks more difficult, because in the case of Mbappe, he actually wants to join Real Madrid, he doesn't need much convincing.
Its just a matter of time before Mbappe becomes a Madrid player. It might happen this summer too because Madrid are very optimistic about the deal.

Joselu is indeed Benzema's short-term replacement and I agree with you that as a 33 year old striker of course it will be a short journey with Real Madrid and therefore Real Madrid only want to borrow him from Espanyol for a season. At this time, Real Madrid clearly still needs a replacement that is commensurate with Benzema, of course, one that wants to survive and can be consistent for more than 5 seasons.

Especially in the Champions League competition, Real Madrid has never played for strikers and they always try their best to bring in competent strikers. Mbappe's radar is still gray at the moment and the clarity of the player's interest in Real Madrid is not so convincing but if Real Madrid can sign him for a lower price than the clause wanted by PSG then it will become a reality this summer.

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The sack of Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic at the end of last season shows that they recognize the coach is not to blame for the unfavorable end to the season but it was as a result of bad decisions made by the CEO and sporting director.

Now there is so much pressure of Tuchel to deliver as we anticipate the start of next season and it would be difficult to find excuses for him if the season does not go as planned. They have not had a very strong transfer window and have an ageing squad which might be exploited next season except they make some changes now.

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On the other hand, Dortmund lost Bellingham and, like other clubs, cannot oppose anything even to the problematic Bayern. The real pressure on Tuchel will start at the Champions League stage - any failure will be taken very painfully. Well, if he gets into any difficulties up to this point, then it will be entirely his fault - Bayern dominates the Bundesliga and this is the minimum that is expected from any coach.

The minimum u said. U speak as if Bayern was created for Bundesliga and Bundesliga for Bayern and nothing can change that. No club in Germany can change that. Last season was tough, both for Naggelsman and Tuchel himself.
That was because there was a massive improvement in many other team's in Bundesliga. Freiburg, Liepzig, and union Berlin, all had a wonderful performance last season. Lacj of resources needed to sustain their form is what differentiate then from bayern. Bayern Munich is richer and has all it takes to keep a strong and sustainable team. There are teams in Germany that can suddenly attend that same height if placed on the same financial height and If it happens now in Tuchel Era, u can't blame him.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 26, 2023, 04:52:37 PM

Maybe Joselu can be a decent striker. However there is an important piece of info about Joselu on one hand. He is very inexperienced in European cups. In his whole career so far he has competed in only the Europa League which was while he was playing for E. Frankfurt in the 2013/2014 season. This is a big negative side of him considering the Champions League now.

Maybe Joselu can be quite productive for Real Madrid in the La Liga. I don't have any issue with that. But Real Madrid still need a solid striker who can make a big contribution in the Champions League. They shouldn't just rely on Vinicius Junior's taking most of the responsibility in the whole tournament.

Real Madrid must be aware of this as well that we are hearing about some striker rumours.

I haven't seen any Real Madrid players who are qualified to play striker next season, and although I've heard that Real Madrid is about to acquire a good striker, but haven't seen any improvement in that regard, and the league will soon begin. To be honest, Real Madrid really needs a good striker who will make everything easy for them.
Real Madrid needs to win more of both the LA Liga and the Champions League, but especially the LA Liga. It would be good if Real Madrid were to win the LA Liga as frequently as they did the Champions League, and I think that would make Real Madrid the highest-ranking team in terms of champion league and LA Liga trophy wins worldwide.

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It is too early to make sure about Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. Because it hasn't been even much time since we entered the summer transfer window. There is a long time period ahead of the teams to make their signings and be prepared for the Champions League journey. Until finding out the final version of their squads it is difficult to be confident about something.

Both of these teams are likely to sign a solid centre-forward in the summer for example. Real Madrid have signed Joselu of course but I don't think they will rely on him after Benzema's departure. Bayern Munich must have also understood that they can't do much thing in this tournament without filling Lewandowski's place with a player who has a similar role.

Even only a centre-forward transfer can make a big change for both of these teams about achieving their goals.

It's too soon to draw solid conclusions about these football colossi. The summer transfer window just sprang open, enabling infinite outcomes. Enhancing their front line? Quite feasible! Agree, Real Madrid roping in Joselu isn't the antidote to their post-Benzema puzzle. He's able, but does he mirror Benzema? Nope. And Bayern Munich stepping into Lewandowski's boots is like trying to switch a lion with a pet cat! As for the Haaland angle, even amidst a stronger midfield, the chances of outdoing Ronaldo are slim. Its not a goal marathon, it's about the quality and the timing, agreed?

Yeah it isn't a goal marathon. The only important thing at this point is to find the right player who can make the needed level of contribution. There is quite a big time period now to make their decision on a player. The only downside in this is that there might be some other team joining the race as well by raising funds for that player or for some other reason.

But we are talking about teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. So there aren't so many teams in Europe that can convince that player to play for themselves instead of these two teams. There is still nearly two months to go for new season to start for both teams so let's see what transfers we will witness from them.

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I'm no sure he will be a decent striker in UCL. The match won't be as easy as in La Liga. If he has no much experience in UCL, it is difficult to score many goals in this competition. If Real Madrid dreams for UCL title in the next season, they should sign an experienced striker in UCL. Real Madrid needs a striker like Mbappe, Osimhen, or Harry Kane. They are very experienced in UCL and they are productive enough so far.

There are still much rumors about Real Madrid, I heard that they are getting closer to sign Mbappe lately. I know Perez already stated to sign Mbappe next year, but he may change his mind after looking at Real Madrid current squad. Mbappe's contract is only 1 year left, his price should be lower that last year. Ideallly, Mbappe's transfer fee is below €200m now. So, Real Madrid has a chance to sign him in current transfer window.

As much as I would like Real Madrid to sign Mbappe this season, I think the €200M price tag is too much. PSG should be reasonable and lower their asking price. I don't think Real Madrid is ready to splash such an amount on him based on the fact that he has less than a year on his contract. Perez might strike a personal agreement with him and have him for free next season and if such agreement is reached, then it rules out the possibility of bringing in Harry Kane or Victor Osimhen to the Bernabeu. Joselu and the others can hold the frontline pending on his arrival next season.

But why is it too much? Neymar cost €222M and he didn't make PSG a much better team. But if you see the potential that could be made use of when Mbappe goes to Real Madrid, I would try to sign him now. They will be selling merch all around the world and the buzz that this creates lets Real Madrid shine in popularity once again. I think the Mbappe to Real Madrid transfer is about 5 times as interesting and important as the Neymar to PSG transfer. Mbappe is going to take the lead in world soccer as an individual but also with his teams.If everything works out the €200M will even look modest in 10 years from now.

You should be aware that today players are not only bought for their playing value, but also for their marketing value.
How much did PSG's earnings increase just from the increased sales of their jerseys with the names of Mbappe, Neymar and Messi? It is about hundreds of millions of euros, and with that they already paid off their contracts with PSG.
Also, the club gained more fans and followers on social networks, which also increases the value of the club in terms of marketing.
Today's clubs adapt to the market and sponsors and have very good marketing strategies, and are aware of the importance of brand building.
As for the contribution of individual players to the results and successes of the club, that is a completely different question and obviously in that segment of business, PSG did not do a good job, unlike Manchester City.

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Quote from: sokani on June 27, 2023, 01:45:06 AM

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I'm no sure he will be a decent striker in UCL. The match won't be as easy as in La Liga. If he has no much experience in UCL, it is difficult to score many goals in this competition. If Real Madrid dreams for UCL title in the next season, they should sign an experienced striker in UCL. Real Madrid needs a striker like Mbappe, Osimhen, or Harry Kane. They are very experienced in UCL and they are productive enough so far.

There are still much rumors about Real Madrid, I heard that they are getting closer to sign Mbappe lately. I know Perez already stated to sign Mbappe next year, but he may change his mind after looking at Real Madrid current squad. Mbappe's contract is only 1 year left, his price should be lower that last year. Ideallly, Mbappe's transfer fee is below €200m now. So, Real Madrid has a chance to sign him in current transfer window.

As much as I would like Real Madrid to sign Mbappe this season, I think the €200M price tag is too much. PSG should be reasonable and lower their asking price. I don't think Real Madrid is ready to splash such an amount on him based on the fact that he has less than a year on his contract. Perez might strike a personal agreement with him and have him for free next season and if such agreement is reached, then it rules out the possibility of bringing in Harry Kane or Victor Osimhen to the Bernabeu. Joselu and the others can hold the frontline pending on his arrival next season.

But why is it too much? Neymar cost €222M and he didn't make PSG a much better team. But if you see the potential that could be made use of when Mbappe goes to Real Madrid, I would try to sign him now. They will be selling merch all around the world and the buzz that this creates lets Real Madrid shine in popularity once again. I think the Mbappe to Real Madrid transfer is about 5 times as interesting and important as the Neymar to PSG transfer. Mbappe is going to take the lead in world soccer as an individual but also with his teams.If everything works out the €200M will even look modest in 10 years from now.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 26, 2023, 04:58:27 PM

I'm no sure he will be a decent striker in UCL. The match won't be as easy as in La Liga. If he has no much experience in UCL, it is difficult to score many goals in this competition. If Real Madrid dreams for UCL title in the next season, they should sign an experienced striker in UCL. Real Madrid needs a striker like Mbappe, Osimhen, or Harry Kane. They are very experienced in UCL and they are productive enough so far.

There are still much rumors about Real Madrid, I heard that they are getting closer to sign Mbappe lately. I know Perez already stated to sign Mbappe next year, but he may change his mind after looking at Real Madrid current squad. Mbappe's contract is only 1 year left, his price should be lower that last year. Ideallly, Mbappe's transfer fee is below €200m now. So, Real Madrid has a chance to sign him in current transfer window.

As much as I would like Real Madrid to sign Mbappe this season, I think the €200M price tag is too much. PSG should be reasonable and lower their asking price. I don't think Real Madrid is ready to splash such an amount on him based on the fact that he has less than a year on his contract. Perez might strike a personal agreement with him and have him for free next season and if such agreement is reached, then it rules out the possibility of bringing in Harry Kane or Victor Osimhen to the Bernabeu. Joselu and the others can hold the frontline pending on his arrival next season.

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Maybe Joselu can be a decent striker. However there is an important piece of info about Joselu on one hand. He is very inexperienced in European cups. In his whole career so far he has competed in only the Europa League which was while he was playing for E. Frankfurt in the 2013/2014 season. This is a big negative side of him considering the Champions League now.

Yes maybe, when Real Madrid's main striker is injured or card accumulation, Joselu will be plotted as the main for several matches. Real Madrid brought in Joselu on loan, the club was well aware of Joselu's ability to not live up to expectations as a core striker.
A big club like Real Madrid will not entrust an important position to standard quality players, only high quality players are what Madrid wants to replace you after Benzema left. Perez is trying to bring in the ideal partner for Vinicius Junior, the club is in negotiations with PSG for the Mbappe transfer process.

Joselu inexperienced in European cups is nothing to worry about, he is now playing in one of the best team in the world, and the madrid winning mentality will help him adapt very well. He is a very good player and a potential striker whom i admire much. let give him the benefit of doubt and give him one season before we pass our performance judgement.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 26, 2023, 04:52:37 PM

Maybe Joselu can be a decent striker. However there is an important piece of info about Joselu on one hand. He is very inexperienced in European cups. In his whole career so far he has competed in only the Europa League which was while he was playing for E. Frankfurt in the 2013/2014 season. This is a big negative side of him considering the Champions League now.

Yes maybe, when Real Madrid's main striker is injured or card accumulation, Joselu will be plotted as the main for several matches. Real Madrid brought in Joselu on loan, the club was well aware of Joselu's ability to not live up to expectations as a core striker.
A big club like Real Madrid will not entrust an important position to standard quality players, only high quality players are what Madrid wants to replace you after Benzema left. Perez is trying to bring in the ideal partner for Vinicius Junior, the club is in negotiations with PSG for the Mbappe transfer process.

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Quote from: Doell on June 26, 2023, 05:20:42 PM

Yes, indeed statistically Joselu is not very experienced in this event, if i'm not mistaken when playing at E. Frankfurt also he could only play 7 matches, actually 9 but 2 matches he didn't play. And in 7 matches he could only get 1 score and 1 assist, a record that is not very good for a striker. But that was before, now maybe Joselu is growing and getting better because Ancellotti might be able to make this man be shine at the age he is not young anymore. But I here agree with what you say Real Madrid still need a solid striker if they want the UCL trophy.

It's just that Real Madrid now needs a strong experienced striker after the departure of Benzema, especially a pupil of his academy, who has already scored for Real Madrid in official matches before, which also cost very cheap. This is clearly not buying a player for the future for many years, but simply closing an empty position, although of course Josela can hardly be called a replacement for Benzema, but they also talked about Benzema himself when Ronaldo left the club and Benzema coped with his role completely afterwards. Maybe Joselu is from the same row Wink

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 25, 2023, 05:17:47 PM

For the next season of the Champions League, they are two teams they got obviously more chances than other teams.
Real Madrid, if they keep Ancelotti or find a better coach because they got a good player to improve their team.
Manchester City, they got all they need because Guardiola is trying to keep the players they need for the next season and hire players also he is a coach he knows to win the champions league.

Seeing the opportunity to be the strongest candidate next season, I admit that Real Madrid and Manchester City still dominate to become the strongest team to win a trophy. Because they have strong strength in the depth of their squad plus Manchester City who had the best quality players last season, of course they are a team that will be highly reckoned with next season.

Now, if you see the other team's opportunities, maybe they will have great difficulty in providing big resistance for the two teams. However, a number of new challengers are coming back next season such as Manchester United and Barcelona. I think these two teams have relatively good progress after what they have done in the domestic league this season.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 26, 2023, 04:52:37 PM

Maybe Joselu can be a decent striker. However there is an important piece of info about Joselu on one hand. He is very inexperienced in European cups. In his whole career so far he has competed in only the Europa League which was while he was playing for E. Frankfurt in the 2013/2014 season. This is a big negative side of him considering the Champions League now.

Maybe Joselu can be quite productive for Real Madrid in the La Liga. I don't have any issue with that. But Real Madrid still need a solid striker who can make a big contribution in the Champions League. They shouldn't just rely on Vinicius Junior's taking most of the responsibility in the whole tournament.

Real Madrid must be aware of this as well that we are hearing about some striker rumours.

Yes, indeed statistically Joselu is not very experienced in this event, if i'm not mistaken when playing at E. Frankfurt also he could only play 7 matches, actually 9 but 2 matches he didn't play. And in 7 matches he could only get 1 score and 1 assist, a record that is not very good for a striker. But that was before, now maybe Joselu is growing and getting better because Ancellotti might be able to make this man be shine at the age he is not young anymore. But I here agree with what you say Real Madrid still need a solid striker if they want the UCL trophy.

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Quote from: CLS63 on June 26, 2023, 04:52:37 PM

Maybe Joselu can be a decent striker. However there is an important piece of info about Joselu on one hand. He is very inexperienced in European cups. In his whole career so far he has competed in only the Europa League which was while he was playing for E. Frankfurt in the 2013/2014 season. This is a big negative side of him considering the Champions League now.

Maybe Joselu can be quite productive for Real Madrid in the La Liga. I don't have any issue with that. But Real Madrid still need a solid striker who can make a big contribution in the Champions League. They shouldn't just rely on Vinicius Junior's taking most of the responsibility in the whole tournament.

Real Madrid must be aware of this as well that we are hearing about some striker rumours.

I'm no sure he will be a decent striker in UCL. The match won't be as easy as in La Liga. If he has no much experience in UCL, it is difficult to score many goals in this competition. If Real Madrid dreams for UCL title in the next season, they should sign an experienced striker in UCL. Real Madrid needs a striker like Mbappe, Osimhen, or Harry Kane. They are very experienced in UCL and they are productive enough so far.

There are still much rumors about Real Madrid, I heard that they are getting closer to sign Mbappe lately. I know Perez already stated to sign Mbappe next year, but he may change his mind after looking at Real Madrid current squad. Mbappe's contract is only 1 year left, his price should be lower that last year. Ideallly, Mbappe's transfer fee is below €200m now. So, Real Madrid has a chance to sign him in current transfer window.

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Maybe Joselu can be a decent striker. However there is an important piece of info about Joselu on one hand. He is very inexperienced in European cups. In his whole career so far he has competed in only the Europa League which was while he was playing for E. Frankfurt in the 2013/2014 season. This is a big negative side of him considering the Champions League now.

Maybe Joselu can be quite productive for Real Madrid in the La Liga. I don't have any issue with that. But Real Madrid still need a solid striker who can make a big contribution in the Champions League. They shouldn't just rely on Vinicius Junior's taking most of the responsibility in the whole tournament.

Real Madrid must be aware of this as well that we are hearing about some striker rumours.

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Quote from: un_rank on June 26, 2023, 01:50:27 PM

The sack of Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic at the end of last season shows that they recognize the coach is not to blame for the unfavorable end to the season but it was as a result of bad decisions made by the CEO and sporting director.

Now there is so much pressure of Tuchel to deliver as we anticipate the start of next season and it would be difficult to find excuses for him if the season does not go as planned. They have not had a very strong transfer window and have an ageing squad which might be exploited next season except they make some changes now.

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On the other hand, Dortmund lost Bellingham and, like other clubs, cannot oppose anything even to the problematic Bayern. The real pressure on Tuchel will start at the Champions League stage - any failure will be taken very painfully. Well, if he gets into any difficulties up to this point, then it will be entirely his fault - Bayern dominates the Bundesliga and this is the minimum that is expected from any coach.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 25, 2023, 02:56:34 PM

That's what the whole point and you can't judge Tuchel just after a few games we saw from him. Tuchel had a good performance with Chelsea in the champions league and that's why they hire him for Bayern Munich, they expect to see Tuchel have a good performance with Bayern Munich in the next season.
However, I think if he fails for the next season in the first month he can even get fired from his job.

If the team's leadership can make such a fast decision in the future months, it indicates that they are not prepared to see a positive development for the club. A manager is not fired after a few months after being hired because he has failed to achieve the team's expectations. Things like these take time, and the entire team must be patient in order to see the team's transitional progress. I believe in Tuchel and am optimistic that he will improve Bayern's performance, particularly in the Champions League.

Quote from: LittleBitFunny on June 26, 2023, 01:00:24 PM

Joselu is a very talented player. Last season we saw excellent performances from Joselu, even with a weak team like Espanyol. Joselu is quite an experienced player. I think Joselu will be able to play better with a stable and experienced squad like Real Madrid. But I would have been happy if the Madrid management had chosen Kane or Mbappe as a replacement for Benzema. If these two players were added to the Madrid team, Madrid's attack would have become stronger.

Joselu is a very talented player, as seen by his previous football experience with Espanyol. Even on that premise, we cannot deny that Joselu cannot be a perfect replacement for Benzema; he can only be a more suitable option to the main player to fit that position more. Real Madrid may have little choice to rely on him now, but it should be noted that he is likely to underperform in comparison to what Benzema was capable of doing for the squad at the time he was in the team.

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Quote from: Pulsar77 on June 26, 2023, 04:26:33 AM

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The sack of Oliver Kahn and Hasan Salihamidzic at the end of last season shows that they recognize the coach is not too blame for the unfavorable end to the season but it was as a result of bad decisions made by the CEO and sporting director.

Now there is so much pressure of Tuchel to deliver as we anticipate the start of next season and it would be difficult to find excuses for him if the season does not go as planned. They have not had a very strong transfer window and have an ageing squad which might be exploited next season except they make some changes now.

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Bayern Munich are still the favorites in the Bundesliga but it is quite possible that some internal problems have been bothering them. I believe Bayern Munich are still going strong regardless of how they ended last season, but of course improvement is always expected because a team's performances are never the same from season to season.

Bayern Munich are a strong team in the Champions League, but they are not the only ones. Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester City, Arsenal, Napoli, Inter, PSG and several other excellent teams are good teams. So there is no reason for Bayern Munich to be satisfied with what they have now, so they have to move on.

The performance of Bayern Munich is completely unknown for the next season because we can't be sure how Tuchel is going to perform in the next season and what's saw from this coach was just a few games we saw in this season while he never had enough chance.
Bayern Munich had also an unstable performance and they were about to even lose the title to Dortmund in the league.
That's why we can't say if they are still the favorites in the champions league or not.

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