UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 192.

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Quote from: Inwestour on April 18, 2024, 08:53:23 AM

Haaland traditionally plays poorly against strong teams, and although he had several good opportunities, he was unable to score. Real Madrid's defenders did not give him space for this, they understand that he cannot be left, so it is more difficult for him. It's not just Haaland, City's attack as a whole was not so effective, Ancelotti found a way to stop Guardiola, but in any case it came to penalties and then luck was on Real's side, it seems that Real are moving towards increasing their record in winning the Champions League Cup. I don’t think that Bayern in the form, that alow them beating Real.

I remember when someone said that Erling Haaland was not a good striker when facing Real Madrid, the reason was quite simple because his mentality was not strong enough when facing the king of Europe, Manchester City relied more on Phil Foden and Kevin de Bruyne and only they were able to put pressure on him. Real Madrid and was able to break through the Real Madrid defense with his cleverness in breaking through the Real Madrid players who were keeping the defense tight. Erling Haaland was like a toothless tiger when he met Real Madrid. He looked scary when he was on the front line but in reality he couldn't do anything when he had to face Real Madrid.

Likewise, Real Madrid players Vinicius Junior and Bellingham were also unable to score against Manchester City, even in their 2 meetings this season in the Champions League, Rodrygo became Man of the match for Real Madrid because he was able to score goals in their 2 legs without Rodrygo. Maybe Real Madrid couldn't compete on penalties with Manchester City, Real Madrid's victory was because luck was on Real Madrid's side through penalties, but with this I also realized that the performance of Manchester City and Real Madrid was actually equal.

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Quote from: rendravolt on April 19, 2024, 04:14:13 AM

Having good performance in the domestic league will not guarantee good progress in the Champions League and that is what Arsenal is currently feeling. They were quite promising when they managed to hold Bayern Munich to a draw in the first leg, but what happened in the second leg when they faced Bayern Munich fans, the Gunners were unable to do anything. Practically, Bayern Munich can win with certainty and even though it is only by 1 goal, that is enough to make Arsenal despair.

Another surprising thing is that Bayern Munich under Tuchel's guidance this season has been so bad and strangely Arsenal still can't beat them. However, if we talk about history and winning mentality, of course Bayern Munich still won a landslide victory over Arsenal. Well, I can't wait to see Bayern Munich who will face Real Madrid in the semifinals and it will be a match that will be missed after approximately 6 years of the two teams never facing each other again.

Bayern Munich is playing at home and in terms of strength they are quite equal to Arsenal so I think Bayern Munich's victory and progress to the semifinals is quite natural because mentally they are much better than Arsenal.

What happens in the domestic league will of course be a little different from in the Champions League, especially when facing teams from different leagues, of course there are many differences so that what happens in the domestic league cannot be used as a benchmark, and in fact Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga is not too bad they just can't maintain consistent performance and if we look at strength I think Bayern Munich this season is quite strong.
The semi-final match between Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid will continue to be fierce as has happened in the past, these two teams have a rivalry in the Champions League and I don't see Bayern Munich's decline in the Bundesliga anymore because of course after failing to defend the Bundesliga title that motivates Bayern Munich much bigger to win the Champions League title this season.

In my opinion, what made Arsenal eliminated from the Champions League was that they didn't have a good enough mentality when competing in the Champions League. Arsenal has indeed had quite a good performance this season in the Premier League but I think they don't really have a winning mentality yet because they haven't even won the Champions League trophy yet.

Bayern Munich will play against Real Madrid in the semifinals, and I think this will be quite a tough match for both of them. Both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich have quite a tough mentality. However, if I had to choose one, I predict that Real Madrid will qualify for the final round.

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Quote from: rendravolt on April 19, 2024, 04:14:13 AM

Having good performance in the domestic league will not guarantee good progress in the Champions League and that is what Arsenal is currently feeling. They were quite promising when they managed to hold Bayern Munich to a draw in the first leg, but what happened in the second leg when they faced Bayern Munich fans, the Gunners were unable to do anything. Practically, Bayern Munich can win with certainty and even though it is only by 1 goal, that is enough to make Arsenal despair.

Another surprising thing is that Bayern Munich under Tuchel's guidance this season has been so bad and strangely Arsenal still can't beat them. However, if we talk about history and winning mentality, of course Bayern Munich still won a landslide victory over Arsenal. Well, I can't wait to see Bayern Munich who will face Real Madrid in the semifinals and it will be a match that will be missed after approximately 6 years of the two teams never facing each other again.

Bayern Munich is playing at home and in terms of strength they are quite equal to Arsenal so I think Bayern Munich's victory and progress to the semifinals is quite natural because mentally they are much better than Arsenal.

What happens in the domestic league will of course be a little different from in the Champions League, especially when facing teams from different leagues, of course there are many differences so that what happens in the domestic league cannot be used as a benchmark, and in fact Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga is not too bad they just can't maintain consistent performance and if we look at strength I think Bayern Munich this season is quite strong.
The semi-final match between Bayern Munich vs Real Madrid will continue to be fierce as has happened in the past, these two teams have a rivalry in the Champions League and I don't see Bayern Munich's decline in the Bundesliga anymore because of course after failing to defend the Bundesliga title that motivates Bayern Munich much bigger to win the Champions League title this season.

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Quote from: Mr.suevie on April 18, 2024, 03:48:23 PM

What are you saying bro, penalty is always a game of luck and nothing like the mentality of the players, (...)

Luck and skill/mentality are not mutually exclusive. Penalty shootout always involves an element of luck but with mental resilience (not cracking under huge pressure) and skill developed e.g. by practicing penalty kicks a team can shift luck to their side.
A penalty shootout is not the same as a coin flip.

True, even though penalties are a game of luck, mentality is really needed there. Now how many players are not ready to take a penalty because they are afraid of failure? This proves that the mentality of courage is very important for a player when taking a penalty kick, so it's not just luck but there must be a driving factor for them to dare to do it, namely mentality.

A match as big as the Champions League, which is watched by millions of young people, is a match that will drain them mentally. And also they took a penalty when they were tired of playing for 120 minutes of normal time. When they are tired their concentration will be disturbed and if their mental state is not that good then they will not want to take it.

Even though it is considered a game of luck, it is not easy for a player to make that decision. We also often see some players showing normal expressions under pressure, which indicates that mentality is an important factor.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 19, 2024, 03:17:37 AM

Very surprising to see the four semi finalists, I’m shocked Man City didn’t make it, they dominated Real in the 2nd leg but if you don’t take your chance you will regret it. Real Madrid are a special force in the CL, so often they are not the best team but manage to find a way to win.

I don’t think anybody predicted to see two German teams in the semi finals but here we are. I predict the final will be Real vs PSG.

This is football for you, they can keep the ball possession while Real Madrid rides on to win the game on penalties. Biq shout out to the youngin the goalkeeper for helping deciding the game fir his club. And also to Kepa who helped him with advice about taking the risk for Bernado Silva's penalty. Saving those two have them the upper hand.

Also, defending is part of the game and it was well utilized by Real Madrid, with the way Manchester City played, if they Real Madrid came all out to attack them, they would have lost with lots of goals.
Though at some points, I do feel like Carlo Ancellotti and his Real Madrid side are now too defensive than they actually was.

No! I'm rooting for Paris Saint Germans, they have Luis Enrique and he would help them with his experience. Don't forget he won the Champions League Competition also with Barcelona years back.

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Quote from: Lannakosa on April 19, 2024, 03:55:54 AM

Don't underestimate Bayern, Arsenal are also in very good shape and everyone said that they have the best results, but they couldn't beat Bayern. Now Real beat City and will think that they did the hardest job, but Bayern cannot be underestimated, they have very good players, and if Kane and Bayern could reach the final it would be great.

In the other semi-final, PSG is stronger, we have already seen two matches between these teams in the group stage, and I think the superiority of PSG was obvious. Atletico decided to play open football at Borussia Dortmund in the second match, and it ended in defeat for them. Enrique will not allow this to happen, he pays a lot of attention to defense, but Barcelona showed that their defense is not ideal either.

In this semifinals no one underestimated any team who managed to sit in this semi final seat, but this is not only about Kane but also about the experience that gives a lot of encouragement to be able to calm the match and qualify for the final round.
I admit that Bayern Munich currently has a quality troops but if we look deeper into the appearance at UCL and in the domestic league, Bayern Munich is not good and that weakness is in the defense even though Kane can continue to score but if Munich defense bad is the same in vain.
compared to Real Madrid in the depth of performance in the domestic league still has a consistent appearance and at UCL this time it can be more consistent than last season even without a pure striker but Ancelotti strategy is always right.

and for PSG who will compete against Dortmund maybe I will agree if PSG can qualify for the final round to defeat Dortmund but it all depends on how Enrique will rotate PSG players at this time or at least maintain the physical quality and performance of the players.

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Having good performance in the domestic league will not guarantee good progress in the Champions League and that is what Arsenal is currently feeling. They were quite promising when they managed to hold Bayern Munich to a draw in the first leg, but what happened in the second leg when they faced Bayern Munich fans, the Gunners were unable to do anything. Practically, Bayern Munich can win with certainty and even though it is only by 1 goal, that is enough to make Arsenal despair.

Another surprising thing is that Bayern Munich under Tuchel's guidance this season has been so bad and strangely Arsenal still can't beat them. However, if we talk about history and winning mentality, of course Bayern Munich still won a landslide victory over Arsenal. Well, I can't wait to see Bayern Munich who will face Real Madrid in the semifinals and it will be a match that will be missed after approximately 6 years of the two teams never facing each other again.

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Quote from: Farma on April 19, 2024, 03:40:04 AM

Real Madrid is currently the team that is the favorite to win the Champions League this season, that's quite natural in my opinion after they managed to get rid of Manchester City so that there is no team that is stronger than them anymore and indeed since the start of the season these two teams have been quite the favorite .
Bayern, Dortmund and also PSG are also strong teams and are worth considering, but if we look overall, Real Madrid is slightly better than these teams and they also have much greater possibilities.

I am also sure that Real Madrid will be in the final but for PSG and Dortmund it is very difficult to predict, the two teams have very balanced strength so they have the same percentage to be in the final.

Don't underestimate Bayern, Arsenal are also in very good shape and everyone said that they have the best results, but they couldn't beat Bayern. Now Real beat City and will think that they did the hardest job, but Bayern cannot be underestimated, they have very good players, and if Kane and Bayern could reach the final it would be great.

In the other semi-final, PSG is stronger, we have already seen two matches between these teams in the group stage, and I think the superiority of PSG was obvious. Atletico decided to play open football at Borussia Dortmund in the second match, and it ended in defeat for them. Enrique will not allow this to happen, he pays a lot of attention to defense, but Barcelona showed that their defense is not ideal either.

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Quote from: Kamasylvia on April 18, 2024, 10:26:17 PM

madrid the only reasonable one here , their mentality is unmatched

Real Madrid have certainly performed well, Manchester City have performed well throughout the season. Relying on luck alone, this Real Madrid win, with every player in the Manchester City team capable. But two goals were accidentally missed due to which Manchester City team lost, but in the main game phase 112 minutes of performance, Manchester City team was ahead. If you notice just one difference, you will understand how strong the Manchester City team was. Manchester City had 33 kicks against the goal post in total and Real Madrid only 8.

don't test King UCL's mentality, the only team that can get a ucl hat trick... Madrid taught Man City that only Madrid can defend the UCL title

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Quote from: Dailyscript on April 19, 2024, 02:08:26 AM

Before anyone can boast of getting closer in lifting the Champions League title you have to cross through the fire that burns along the path which is Real Madrid. They are the club with the highest UCL title and for a long time they always qualify in all the Champions league competition every season. Such a team sees the UCL title as something that is their inheritance and no club should be able to drag that with them. One of the most interesting thing about Real Madrid is that they may not be having a good performance in the LA Liga but when it comes to the UCL they drop every habit of mistake or unseriousnes and play with so much power. Right now am having this conviction that Real Madrid will face Bayern Munich in the finals and they would win the league onece again.

Madrid's performance in the Champions League of course cannot be doubted and rarely any team is able to win the Champions League in a row like Madrid did, at this time we can say Madrid's performance is not very good in La Liga and like Munich of course Madrid has a strong mentality when they play in the Champions League, Actually, when Madrid played in the first leg and managed to draw from Manchester City, of course I was a little doubtful if Madrid could show a better performance when playing at the Etihad Stadium in the second leg, but indeed Ancelotti's mentality and ingenuity in concocting strategies put great pressure on Manchester City in the match so that the match had to be continued until the penalty kick.

Madrid's mentality and performance so far in the Champions League is of course the reason they are called the ruling team of Europe, and of course it is not wrong if we say the team that can beat Madrid will deserve to win the Champions League so far, for now Madrid have ensured a place in the semi-finals and I think there will be no doubt if they can reach the final to bring the Big Ear Trophy back to Spain this season.

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Quote from: reagansimms on April 19, 2024, 03:05:10 AM

Real Madrid managed to knock out the defending champions from the UCL and at the same time complete their mission of revenge against Manchester City. After Manchester City was eliminated from the UCL, not a single representative from the EPL qualified for the semifinals because in the other match, Arsenal were also eliminated dramatically by Bayern Munich. Real Madrid success in eliminating one of the strongest challengers in the UCL made their job in the semifinals even easier. Of the four remaining teams, only Real Madrid has the best chance of winning the trophy if measured by the condition of the team and its performance this season.

My prediction is that Real Madrid and PSG will qualify for the final round because their opponents in the semifinals were not very consistent in maintaining their performance. PSG motivation is very big to win its first UCL trophy, Real Madrid must be careful with surprises from PSG because Luis Enrique really understands Real Madrid style of play.

Real Madrid is currently the team that is the favorite to win the Champions League this season, that's quite natural in my opinion after they managed to get rid of Manchester City so that there is no team that is stronger than them anymore and indeed since the start of the season these two teams have been quite the favorite .
Bayern, Dortmund and also PSG are also strong teams and are worth considering, but if we look overall, Real Madrid is slightly better than these teams and they also have much greater possibilities.

I am also sure that Real Madrid will be in the final but for PSG and Dortmund it is very difficult to predict, the two teams have very balanced strength so they have the same percentage to be in the final.

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Quote from: Kamasylvia on April 18, 2024, 10:26:17 PM

madrid the only reasonable one here , their mentality is unmatched

Real Madrid have certainly performed well, Manchester City have performed well throughout the season. Relying on luck alone, this Real Madrid win, with every player in the Manchester City team capable. But two goals were accidentally missed due to which Manchester City team lost, but in the main game phase 112 minutes of performance, Manchester City team was ahead. If you notice just one difference, you will understand how strong the Manchester City team was. Manchester City had 33 kicks against the goal post in total and Real Madrid only 8.

Man City certainly dominated the tie but Real held them very well, especially at the Etihad where Madrid played like Burnley in the whole match and their strong mentality got them over the line. Don't forget Real Madrid is missing their key players like Thibaut Courtois, David Alaba, and Éder Militao, so they had to dig deep to get themselves through to the semi-final again. It was a hard-fought victory but Real are always like this. They always find a way somehow...

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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on April 18, 2024, 07:10:13 AM

Munich has completed its job and many people were mocking arsenal on X. The reaction was predictable since i believe that many fans from its competitors in EPL were also hoping arsenal to fail on UCL. It may be also failed in the EPL as well.

Arsenal's performance is getting even worsening start from the first leg. It reached its climax at the second half. it was also pressuring the performance from arsenal too. Things are just getting even difficult for arsenal to get at least one trophy this season.

Im surely arteta will be blamed once again by so many people when arsenal ended with trophyless at the end of season.

Arteta shouldn't be blamed for anything actually. What can he do? He is doing his best to get as big performance as possible from his players every season. He is really good at doing that as well.

Arsenal just can't do a good finishing touch in a season. It won't make me surprised if they miss the Premier League title chance once again as well. Sad

They have very young players in their squad but they can still be one of big competitors. This is still a positive thing in my opinion. Of course I would like to see them finally winning a title as well but let's see. Arsenal shouldn't decide to part ways with Arteta later on. This would be a big mistake I think as he is a really good manager.

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Quote from: Kamasylvia on April 18, 2024, 10:26:17 PM

madrid the only reasonable one here , their mentality is unmatched

Their mentality is not in doubt because whenever you see the prime of big clubs, there will always be Madrid in it which makes their mentality always awake every season so it seems that Madrid's nickname that has Champions League DNA is really a fact.

But in this case when talking about rationalization, of course everything still has a chance because after all Bayern is one of the Champions League subscription clubs and PSG they are one of the clubs with the power of money and good quality players to date.
As for Dortmund, I did not expect them to get this far now but indeed their current achievements when the semi-finals against PSG could be more difficult even though Dortmund's strength still lies in the young spirit they have but in terms of surprise PSG is actually not inferior and I still feel that they are comparable for now.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on April 19, 2024, 03:17:37 AM

Very surprising to see the four semi finalists, I’m shocked Man City didn’t make it, they dominated Real in the 2nd leg but if you don’t take your chance you will regret it. Real Madrid are a special force in the CL, so often they are not the best team but manage to find a way to win.

Manchester City did played good but I can say they wasted many opportunties in two quarter final matches and Real Madrid are simply strong and experienced enough to take advantage of any chance to beat Manchester City. They are at same level and both played well so if you can not beat the opponent, the opponent will beat you at the end.

The severity of their matches shown in penalty shootouts with two Croatian players missed their penalties. Modric and Kovacic are very experienced with penalty shootouts because they joined some with Croatia national team in World Cup and Euro tournaments. But experience can not help them to finish their tasks in this match because pressure is so huge.

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Very surprising to see the four semi finalists, I’m shocked Man City didn’t make it, they dominated Real in the 2nd leg but if you don’t take your chance you will regret it. Real Madrid are a special force in the CL, so often they are not the best team but manage to find a way to win.

I don’t think anybody predicted to see two German teams in the semi finals but here we are. I predict the final will be Real vs PSG.

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Quote from: FinePoine0 on April 18, 2024, 11:15:43 PM

Quote from: Kamasylvia on April 18, 2024, 10:26:17 PM

madrid the only reasonable one here , their mentality is unmatched

Real Madrid have certainly performed well, Manchester City have performed well throughout the season. Relying on luck alone, this Real Madrid win, with every player in the Manchester City team capable. But two goals were accidentally missed due to which Manchester City team lost, but in the main game phase 112 minutes of performance, Manchester City team was ahead. If you notice just one difference, you will understand how strong the Manchester City team was. Manchester City had 33 kicks against the goal post in total and Real Madrid only 8.

Real Madrid managed to knock out the defending champions from the UCL and at the same time complete their mission of revenge against Manchester City. After Manchester City was eliminated from the UCL, not a single representative from the EPL qualified for the semifinals because in the other match, Arsenal were also eliminated dramatically by Bayern Munich. Real Madrid success in eliminating one of the strongest challengers in the UCL made their job in the semifinals even easier. Of the four remaining teams, only Real Madrid has the best chance of winning the trophy if measured by the condition of the team and its performance this season.

My prediction is that Real Madrid and PSG will qualify for the final round because their opponents in the semifinals were not very consistent in maintaining their performance. PSG motivation is very big to win its first UCL trophy, Real Madrid must be careful with surprises from PSG because Luis Enrique really understands Real Madrid style of play.

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Quote from: Kamasylvia on April 18, 2024, 10:26:17 PM

madrid the only reasonable one here , their mentality is unmatched

Oh look, you're underestimating Bayern Munich who won Champions League for six times, people were speculate Bayern Munich won't qualify, but here we're, Bayern Munich beat Arsenal.

Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on April 19, 2024, 01:52:09 AM

It is Bernardo Silva's fault because he did not aim to the left or right side. Lunin can easily predict his movements because Silva did not even show gimmick to fool the goalkeeper.

In penalty, there are no right or wrong, the only way we can say someone is wrong during penalty when he missed the shot.

Actually you're wrong to say Lunin was predicting the ball, actually Kepa gave an information to Lunin, watch this video https://www.tiktok.com/@skillerhomeihd/video/7359182133723794694

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Before anyone can boast of getting closer in lifting the Champions League title you have to cross through the fire that burns along the path which is Real Madrid. They are the club with the highest UCL title and for a long time they always qualify in all the Champions league competition every season. Such a team sees the UCL title as something that is their inheritance and no club should be able to drag that with them. One of the most interesting thing about Real Madrid is that they may not be having a good performance in the LA Liga but when it comes to the UCL they drop every habit of mistake or unseriousnes and play with so much power. Right now am having this conviction that Real Madrid will face Bayern Munich in the finals and they would win the league onece again.

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Quote from: LGD2Business on April 18, 2024, 03:54:43 AM

There was little expectation that Manchester City would be eliminated, but when it comes to penalties, the luck factor comes into play. They should have scored goals in normal time and won the match. After all, Real Madrid is also one of the biggest clubs, this result is not a surprise. Bayern passed the round despite not being much superior. It's difficult to predict who will win the cup, all four teams are the best in the world. It won't be a surprise who wins. Dortmund may be the team with the least chance, but even they have a chance. Real and PSG are bigger favorites.

It is Bernardo Silva's fault because he did not aim to the left or right side. Lunin can easily predict his movements because Silva did not even show gimmick to fool the goalkeeper. I still understand why city missed this important match. I hope the city can get the remaining trophies since city is still having two more chances.
Even though City is leaving UCL and that's not a serious problem, the club still has a chance to win the FA Cup and the Premier League trophy very soon. PSG is far more competent than Dortmund in term of club quality, but I believe we have always underrated Dortmund but this club is always surprising us with many of its unpredictable result. It's because we've seen numerous instances of dortmund qualifying even when they should have been in the hell group.

Dortmund was capable of surpassing it, which is impressive to see. I am confident that Dortmund will soon be able to compete with PSG on equal terms. Dortmund's odds are almost equal to PSG's. No club was favored to win the game in this match because all of them had an equal chance of qualifying.
The slightly gap occurred due to home or away game.

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