The finals is fast approaching and we're going to see how Dortmund will battle it out against Real Madrid for who will be the champions and it is surprising to see a very disappointing Borussia Dortmund who couldn't get the trophy off the hands of Bayern Munich last season in the Bundesliga are in the final of the Champions League, is really shocking.
I think the Dortmund we're going to see in this encounter won't be the weak one we saw last campaign, they're going to make sure Madrid loses this champions league final since they (Real Madrid) haven't lost all 14 finals (correct me if I'm wrong) they play, I'd say this is the last bus stop for Madrid. I feel Dortmund are more sharper than the Madrid side, to me the Real Madrid squad only have too many hyped players and I don't see them winning this finals, is Dortmund all the way.
Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 57. (Read 141700 times)
...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.
Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents. Dortmund is awesome they are in the final match of the Champions League and this is enough for anyone to show this team is strong enough. They already won the game we couldn't not expect them to win and they already got good results so far during this season of the Champions League.
Playing against a team like Real Madrid is hard for any team but it seems Dortmund is lucky to be in this game and now they just need another miracle to even beat Real Madrid. However, considering the current situation of Real Madrid this cannot be easy at all.
I will bet in favor of Real Madrid in this match, as Real Madrid have won every match against Dortmund in the last few games held at this ground and the games have been the most competitive. But in this match, both teams will try hard to win the title, but out of that, Real Madrid team is more likely to win. Because the Real Madrid team has performed well throughout this season which is why they have the potential to win.
Betting on Real Madrid is a safe move but this won't get a big reward. Real Madrid is a great team with a great coach like Carlo Ancelotti in their team and anyone who knows in a normal situation Real Madrid can win this match with a good result against Dortomundnad they can win the Champions League for another time.
But considering the rates I can see for the matches between Real Madrid and Dortmund I think this is risky and a good move to consider a little chance for Dortmund against Real Madrid.
Real Madrid could experience the same thing this season in the Champions League final. Real Madrid is really considered the favorite because of its current performance, but this is not a guarantee to ensure that Real Madrid can actually win the match. No one knows what will happen in the final, Real Madrid is still very likely to lose even though they have a record of many titles.
Real Madrid is currently one of the best clubs to count on. I will always choose Real Madrid over Dortmund if I were to gamble it based on the antecedents and trajectory in this season and the previous ones. They have always been promising and up and doing as far as effective delivery in performance is concern. Let's not forget that Ancelotti is not experiencing this for the first time and he has also been promising when it comes to controling the game to a win. Ancelotti is interestingly one manager that you can count on even at the last minute of the match when it gets hot.
Im speculating absolute domination by real madrid in the UCL in the upcoming season. Im not even doubting how capable real madrid is for sure.
Considering the players level perform, Real Madrid have good composition and get bigger winning percentage ration than Dortmund indeed success eliminating many top team from Atletico Madrid until PSG from quarter until semifinal round. I see Madrid has opportunity to make another history as the most winner UCL and reaching 15 Champion League trophies.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
Dortmund played very well it is proof that they are one of the clubs that should be taken into account with their limited conditions as a club that is not a favorite but by managing to be in the final really proves that they are very serious about the competition.
Although it also cannot be compared with Madrid's extraordinary strength, I don't think it is too appropriate to say a club that is currently in the final as an amateur club because indeed the words are not too suitable to be pinned to a club that is in the final of a big competition.
Dortmund make it this far should even dispute the fact that they are no amateurs beside championship is a game for no amateurs it takes a great effort to get select for the championship as a team talk more of getting to the finals.
It isn't by luck he defeated previous team he played against its because they have tactics which almost all clubs seem to be neglecting and they use it for preying their opponents .
Although luck was on their side in some games just as luck was on realmadrid side so they both have the chance of winning just that people already gave realmadrid a higher percentage of winning.
Everything will be judged sooner than later when they fave each other in their upcoming clash.
Real Madrid is of course a team full of experience, hard work and a great record. Dortmund on paper is not better than Real Madrid, but every time Dortmund faces Real Madrid there is something good to hope for. I definitely hope Real Madrid win, but I refuse to call Dortmund amateurs.
Yeah that's a fact, did you watch the Europa League final a few hours ago? then what do you think after seeing the final result? we can illustrate this situation in the Real Madrid vs Dortmund match when Real Madrid is the favorite team but Dortmund has a chance to make a surprise. Dortmund has almost the same characteristics as Atalanta they can play impressively and defensively so the scenario is that Dortmund must score a goal first and then play defensively only in this way Dortmund can win the match.
The final match is to find the winner this means that the 2 teams that managed to reach this stage are the best teams so that's right, there's no reason to underestimate any of them and they have gone through challenges since the group stage. No one doubts the greatness and experience of Real Madrid but somehow I thought there was a surprise in the match.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
To call Dortmund amateurs is a gross exaggeration
Maybe compared to Real, many teams look weak, but as has already been mentioned many times, this is one game, so the randomness of the result is higher than in a two-game confrontation or a round-robin tournament, so the result is not guaranteed.
By the way, for some reason the quote that caught my attention (Real Madrid win with handicap -1) has become even more attractive: it is now 2.63.
Indeed I think Asiska02 just exaggerated as you said because a team that got to the final of the champions league can't be an amateur team regardless of the team they are playing against in the finals, Real Madrid may have had a good record and history in the champions league as they hold the highest win so far and the team is full of young players with good performance and experience but then, this is the finals the game is between 2 teams that is made up of 11;11 players, anything can happen and truly no team is guaranteed to be the winner until the final whistle and for any reason no one should believe that Real Madrid has won already irrespective of how the odds are rising here and there, one good example is the Europa League finals between Atalanta and Bayer Leverkusen which ended 3:0 in favour of Atalanta, most bettors expected Leverkusen to win based on their performance but they got their biggest defeat for this season today.
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When did Dortmund become an amateur team. They have played so well into the Final and you still call them an amateur team. Having much experience is not a guarantee to win the league. Porto had more UCL experiences and they are a one time Champions league winners yet Arsenal won them into the quarter finals. Football can be unpredictable and no one should draw a conclusion until the match is over. If you dont have any scenario to tell you how tables can turn they you should know about what happened today. Nobody was expecting Atlanta to win Bayern Leverkusen because they have not lost one match through the season yet they lost today in the finals.
Real Madrid is of course a team full of experience, hard work and a great record. Dortmund on paper is not better than Real Madrid, but every time Dortmund faces Real Madrid there is something good to hope for. I definitely hope Real Madrid win, but I refuse to call Dortmund amateurs.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
Dortmund played very well it is proof that they are one of the clubs that should be taken into account with their limited conditions as a club that is not a favorite but by managing to be in the final really proves that they are very serious about the competition.
Although it also cannot be compared with Madrid's extraordinary strength, I don't think it is too appropriate to say a club that is currently in the final as an amateur club because indeed the words are not too suitable to be pinned to a club that is in the final of a big competition.
Real Madrid could experience the same thing this season in the Champions League final. Real Madrid is really considered the favorite because of its current performance, but this is not a guarantee to ensure that Real Madrid can actually win the match. No one knows what will happen in the final, Real Madrid is still very likely to lose even though they have a record of many titles.
Real Madrid is currently one of the best clubs to count on. I will always choose Real Madrid over Dortmund if I were to gamble it based on the antecedents and trajectory in this season and the previous ones. They have always been promising and up and doing as far as effective delivery in performance is concern. Let's not forget that Ancelotti is not experiencing this for the first time and he has also been promising when it comes to controling the game to a win. Ancelotti is interestingly one manager that you can count on even at the last minute of the match when it gets hot.
Considering the players level perform, Real Madrid have good composition and get bigger winning percentage ration than Dortmund indeed success eliminating many top team from Atletico Madrid until PSG from quarter until semifinal round. I see Madrid has opportunity to make another history as the most winner UCL and reaching 15 Champion League trophies.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
Football can be unpredictable and no one should draw a conclusion until the match is over. If you dont have any scenario to tell you how tables can turn they you should know about what happened today. Nobody was expecting Atlanta to win Bayern Leverkusen because they have not lost one match through the season yet they lost today in the finals.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
Do you think Dortmund is an amateur team? I think only people who don't know football will say that. Dortmund is one of the top team in Bundesliga, they often gave a surprise in UCL. Dortmund also has quality players although Real Madrid players look better. When a team can reach the final UCL, it is impossible to be done by an amateur team. Even, no amateur teams can play in UCL. All of the teams in UCL are the top teams from popular leagues in the world. On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
Of course, it is a football match. No match can be predictable. It is very possible that Dortmund can defeat Real Madrid. You can the final Europa league today. Atalanta which is not a favorite team to win it, they can defeat Leverkusen. This also can happen in UCL final. So, don't underestimate Dortmund, it is a strong team, too.
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But sometimes a team like Dortmund just needs luck when facing Real Madrid and of course most people want to see that happen. If we talk about it as a whole, of course Real Madrid will still be the undisputed favorite and perhaps once again Marco Reus will accept the bitter reality of not being able to win his first Champions League title.This farewell will make the Los Blancos squad's performance even brighter and they will have more reason to win this title for Kroos who is about to retire. On the other hand, Modric will also be very emotional when Casemiro left him two years ago and soon he will also be left behind by his midfield partner, Kroos. It will be a sad yet happy season for Modric if he can win it once again with Kroos.
Real Madrid could experience the same thing this season in the Champions League final. Real Madrid is really considered the favorite because of its current performance, but this is not a guarantee to ensure that Real Madrid can actually win the match. No one knows what will happen in the final, Real Madrid is still very likely to lose even though they have a record of many titles.
Both Real Madrid and Dortmund deserve to win the title. They have performed impressively in UCL this season. Although Dortmund only finished in 5th place in Bundesliga, they showed something different in UCL. Sure, Real Madrid looks better, they also becomes the champion in La Liga. But I think the performance in domestic competition won't bring much impact for the UCL final match.
I also think it will be a tough match. Real Madrid looks having better attackers but Dortmund has strong defense. It won't be easy to beat Dortmund if they have no problem with injured players. A German team is very often unpredictable when it is in international match. Just remember that Real Madrid was almost defeated by Bayern Munich in semi-final! Real Madrid must be more careful to play against Dortmund although they are more experienced in the final UCL and have cool stats.
Dortmund indeed still has the opportunity to get an UCL title but for me the biggest opportunity in history is only Real Madrid who can get the UCL title this season.I also think it will be a tough match. Real Madrid looks having better attackers but Dortmund has strong defense. It won't be easy to beat Dortmund if they have no problem with injured players. A German team is very often unpredictable when it is in international match. Just remember that Real Madrid was almost defeated by Bayern Munich in semi-final! Real Madrid must be more careful to play against Dortmund although they are more experienced in the final UCL and have cool stats.
maybe I am too ambition as a fan of Madrid but logically I am very confident from the difference in the quality of the players of both teams and different performances.
as you said if Madrid has a very strong attacker but Dortmund has a very sturdy defense, but believe it or not, Madrid will easily knock down the strongest defense that Dortmun has.
now let's look back at the appearance of Bayern Munich and if you see the defense of Bayern Munich and Dortmund actually the two teams from the Bundesliga have an almost equivalent defense and see how Madrid destroys the defense of Bayern Munich through consecutive attacks in the second round from the side and managed to get 2 score.
this can happen when fighting Dortmund and if you recall how experienced Madrid must always have a lot of tactics and strategies to continue to score and defeat their opponents.
I understand if the performance of the domestic league will not affect the UCL match later but if you see Madrid appearance in the rest of the match before this season ends, you will see how strong the second layer player has Madrid and that is only the second layer player, then what if the player main playing in the rest of the match?
well, from this statement I am still sure if Madrid players are of higher quality and can get a title in the final match later.
Farewell Champions League for Toni Kroos or Champions League for the first time for Marco Reus? Of course this will be the most debated thing in the final. We know that initially the news of the separation was announced from Dortmund who said that their club legend would leave them at the end of the season and all football fans hoped to see Marco Reus win the Champions League trophy with Dortmund.
But now it is clear that the situation is different and Real Madrid also have something they have to win together with Toni Kroos who will retire from football after Euro 2024 ends and this will be his 6th Champions League trophy if he manages to win it later. It is clear that all eyes are on these two players from Germany and you need to know that in 2013 the two of them faced each other when Toni Kroos was still in a Bayern Munich uniform and managed to beat Marco Reus, who at the start of his career managed to reach the final with Dortmund. In the future, this will continue to happen where the final place is the same and both of them will leave as legends.
I personally believe that we need to see something insane, like very very unlikely things happening in the game that could maybe make it work one way or another. I am not really going to end up with something that can change all that much, we should just consider whatever we are going to do. That is why I believe that we are going to see Real win, and a great farewell to Kroos and Modric.
This farewell will make the Los Blancos squad's performance even brighter and they will have more reason to win this title for Kroos who is about to retire. On the other hand, Modric will also be very emotional when Casemiro left him two years ago and soon he will also be left behind by his midfield partner, Kroos. It will be a sad yet happy season for Modric if he can win it once again with Kroos.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
To call Dortmund amateurs is a gross exaggeration
Maybe compared to Real, many teams look weak, but as has already been mentioned many times, this is one game, so the randomness of the result is higher than in a two-game confrontation or a round-robin tournament, so the result is not guaranteed.
By the way, for some reason the quote that caught my attention (Real Madrid win with handicap -1) has become even more attractive: it is now 2.63.
Borusssia Dortmund could surprise us all by beating Real Madrid, although that possibility is something that is very difficult to happen, because Real Madrid is also in a good phase at the moment. Even though they are mostly populated by young players, they can also provide an interesting game. Let's see what Borussia Dortmund will be able to show in this very decisive match, whether they will succeed in giving a surprise or not. But what is clear is that I hope they can show something good.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
How do you define Dortmund as an amateur team. You forgot how Real Madrid splash money an acquired Bellingham from Dortmund and they sold him for them, Haaland was also bought by Manchester City from that same club. Dortmund has provided one of the best players some teams are exploring today but because they don't have good influence like other clubs, they now seems to be in the dark, I don't think we can define such club as amateur at this stage.
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On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
By dominance, Real Madrid looks they have won that league already but we don't know what is going to happen in that day. We said the same thing when Real Madrid met with Manchester City but luckily, they suppress the pressures that came from Manchester City until the end including extra minutes and win the penalty. We also saw the same thing in the last World cup but Argentina ate it in the end, don't sleep on Dortmund on this one too even if the odd looks low.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
To call Dortmund amateurs is a gross exaggeration
Maybe compared to Real, many teams look weak, but as has already been mentioned many times, this is one game, so the randomness of the result is higher than in a two-game confrontation or a round-robin tournament, so the result is not guaranteed.
By the way, for some reason the quote that caught my attention (Real Madrid win with handicap -1) has become even more attractive: it is now 2.63.
Considering the players level perform, Real Madrid have good composition and get bigger winning percentage ration than Dortmund indeed success eliminating many top team from Atletico Madrid until PSG from quarter until semifinal round. I see Madrid has opportunity to make another history as the most winner UCL and reaching 15 Champion League trophies.
This final is between an amateur team and a professional team who has more experience and more quality in terms of play in this competition than the other. The champions league competition is like a daily meal to Real Madrid that when they’re able to get to the finals, the trophy becomes theirs because they can’t stand losing the trophy when they’ve already set their sights on it.
In the finals between Real Madrid and Dortmund, anyone predicting that Dortmund will win is actually taking the bigger risk. It is obvious that Real Madrid will take the day unless football things happen that day. However predicting that Real Madrid will win and or predicting that that Monday will win are both to risks because nothing is certain however saying that Dortmund will win is a bigger risk
On the other hand, football still remain the most unpredictable game that you’re not suppose to have an 100% confidence in one team over the other even though it’s clearly so. Dortmund could all surprise us even when its possibility is still very minimal to occur. They’ve come so far to reach the finals, as they can’t stand a chance to win it, they can as well try their best to give Real Madrid a tough time before winning the trophy.
All I pray for is for an interesting finals, no matter who wins. I wouldn't want the excitement in the semi finals to be greater than the finals. 
Borussia Dortmund players needs to understand this is the most important game of all their lives, and play like that, is his only chance of winning a Champions League, for someones is gonna be the only chance, for others maybe can be other chances ahead in his careers because they are top players like Jadon Sancho, but the rest is gonna be his only bullet, so try to take advantage of that and play at 120% of your capabilities.
They'll do everything they can to beat Real Madrid but it sounds impossible considering that real madrid is now climbing up to reach its peak performance. I'm still skeptical, given how strong Real Madrid is and I'd like to point out another important factor such as Bellingham's presence to help madrid in getting various information about the gameplay of dortmund. I'm sure Ancellotti is trying to learn as much as he can about Dortmund from Bellingham and this is gonna be very useful information.
Some players, such as Sancho and Maatsen, have been dubbed failures on their parents club and yet they came to the dortmund to prove if those partent clubs are wrong. They must be proving themselves worthy of winning the UCL this season.
Their chances of winning the UCL are getting closer this time. I am so confident that Real Madrid will win the game soon. There will be no club that can stop Madrid from beating Dortmund.
Not even a German team, like Dortmund. What Dortmund can do is constantly play defensively against Real Madrid.
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