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Quote from: legendbtc on May 21, 2024, 12:25:44 PM

...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.

Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents.

Dortmund should be scared already, we are talking about the most decorated Champions league manager, someone who has been a coach close to 30+ years and with that experience it is hard to give Dortmund the wining odd. Yes, it aswell likely that Dortmund would have a chance but it's hard to believe. Real Madrid are not coming to pet the ball and go away with possessions, you own the ball and do your passes but the moment they receive the ball by any means there is the most highest possibility of them flashing the ball in the net and that has become the most striking characteristics of the team and it has brought them this far, just a single step to securing the title.

Dortmund is awesome they are in the final match of the Champions League and this is enough for anyone to show this team is strong enough. They already won the game we couldn't not expect them to win and they already got good results so far during this season of the Champions League.
Playing against a team like Real Madrid is hard for any team but it seems Dortmund is lucky to be in this game and now they just need another miracle to even beat Real Madrid. However, considering the current situation of Real Madrid this cannot be easy at all.

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Quote from: iBaba on May 21, 2024, 05:06:41 PM

I am beginning to have the feeling that Real Madrid will win this trophy, especially as the days get closer and coupled with what we witnessed from the case of Manchester City and Arsenal. We all hoped as much as possible that Arsenal takes the title of the Premier League but Manchester City, like magic, came on top of the game to do what they are good at doing which was to bag another EPL title for the 4th time in a row.

I have a believe that this is likely to end the same way, where most people are envisaging that Dortmund wins the trophy for the second time after a very long period of time. But it also seems like Real Madrid may end up showing more of the experience and capacity to take the trophy.

It was already cleared up completely before now that Real Madrid was favorite in a game like this one. Why would you even bring up the Arsenal and Manchester City comparisons into this case?
There was nothing like magic truthfully, they Arsenal could have won those two game against Manchester City and Aston Villa if they had wnated the Premier League Competition so bad. Four time in a row is not bad but a good record in the twenties same way Alex Ferguson did three in a row in the 90's

Those people are simply biased and not wanting to say it as it's meant to be. They should stop hoping and watch how things are going completely.
If Dortmu wants to win, well, I'm not Carlo Ancellotti anyways.

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Real Madrid really deserved the title, they did a pretty good job to reach the final. El Real also has a squad that is quite capable and some of them are also quite experienced. Toni Kroos would definitely be very happy if he was able to win the title as a parting gift. Meanwhile, Bellingham will also be a point of attention because he is also a former Dortmund player who has now been quite successful with the Whites. Apart from that, as you said, Bellingham is also nominated for the Ballon d'Or and has quite a chance if he is able to lift the trophy. I'm really looking forward to Real Madrid lifting its 15th title.

I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...

BTW, Nacho will also be leaving Real Madrid this season so maybe this is the last UCL farewell gift for him. Talking about who deserves the UCL trophy, for me these two teams really deserve to win the UCL league trophy this season because both Real Madrid and Dortmund have performed very impressively from the Group phase to reaching the Final.

However, if we talk about the strength and quality of the Real Madrid squad, they are very favorites to win the 15th trophy. Moreover, when Real Madrid advanced to the final, they never lost and definitely won. Apart from that, Real Madrid never underestimate their opponents, whatever team they face is an opponent they have to beat and they are always focused.

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Quote from: 3meek on May 21, 2024, 12:48:36 PM

I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...

Both Real Madrid and Dortmund deserve to win the title. They have performed impressively in UCL this season. Although Dortmund only finished in 5th place in Bundesliga, they showed something different in UCL. Sure, Real Madrid looks better, they also becomes the champion in La Liga. But I think the performance in domestic competition won't bring much impact for the UCL final match.

I also think it will be a tough match. Real Madrid looks having better attackers but Dortmund has strong defense. It won't be easy to beat Dortmund if they have no problem with injured players. A German team is very often unpredictable when it is in international match. Just remember that Real Madrid was almost defeated by Bayern Munich in semi-final! Real Madrid must be more careful to play against Dortmund although they are more experienced in the final UCL and have cool stats.

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...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.

Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents.

Statistically, Real Madrid have won in more champions league final games they’ve qualified to than the losses they had in them. They’ve grown to become one of the greatest clubs in Europe and all thanks to their manager Ancelotti for building a strong team that can’t be beaten by just mere clubs. As the champions league final still stands, they still remain the favourite for the finals and they will win it by anything possible they have to give into that match. Borussia Dortmund is not that much of a worthy opponent to contend with them in my opinion, but we have to still wait to see how the match will look like before finally giving the trophy to who most deserves it after the final game.

Yeah, your correct here. For Real Madrid to qualify to the finals they hardly lose to any team there. The semifinals and quarter finals might be difficult, but it is always an easy ticket to lift the UCL cup when it comes to the final round. I guess this period it might not be business as usual, Dortmund may end this reoccurrence and life the title. I have no doubt in any of the team because both of them are very understanding.

Also, you should try rephrasing the statement that Dortmund is not a strong and competitive opponent for Madrid. Any team that is able to qualify to the final is a good opponent. They were not given free tickets to the final, infact Dortmund had won both home and way against PSG in the semi finals.

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Quote from: 3meek on May 21, 2024, 12:48:36 PM

I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...

This is clear and not about probability, Real Madrid are the best team for the finals and if they win it, no one will be surprised they did. Dortmund won’t be surprised they were beaten by them and won’t feel that bad to have loss to a big team like Real Madrid with their outrageous performance this season. The hope giving to Dortmund in this match is the believe that anything can happen in football and luck might shine on them, which if it happens to be so, they can be the winners and not Real Madrid which everyone is clamouring for and looks more obvious to win the trophy.

Quote from: iBaba on May 21, 2024, 05:06:41 PM

I have a believe that this is likely to end the same way, where most people are envisaging that Dortmund wins the trophy for the second time after a very long period of time. But it also seems like Real Madrid may end up showing more of the experience and capacity to take the trophy.

Come to think of it, Real Madrid’s performance this season in the domestic league cannot be compared with what we saw at the Bundesliga games of Dortmund this season. Rating by that, Dortmund shouldn't feel over confidence to win the trophy because the best choice team candidate for the trophy is Real Madrid. For formality sake, the game will be played, but I haven’t seen anything that is convincing to give Dortmund the win in this finals.

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Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents.

Ancelotti will try his best to win the 5th Champions League title in his coaching career this season. Ancelotti has won 4 titles so far with 2 wins each with Milan and 2 with Real Madrid. This season Ancelotti will try to win his third title with Real Madrid, the chances are very high.

Milan and Real Madrid are the two best teams for Ancelotti so far and that is proven by the titles he has won. Real Madrid would be very happy if Ancelotti would extend his contract for the next few seasons, it would keep good things to look forward to. So now Ancelotti is very focused on winning his 5th Champions League title in his coaching career, that would make him the first coach to win 5 titles.

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Quote from: legendbtc on May 21, 2024, 12:25:44 PM

...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.

Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents.

Statistically, Real Madrid have won in more champions league final games they’ve qualified to than the losses they had in them. They’ve grown to become one of the greatest clubs in Europe and all thanks to their manager Ancelotti for building a strong team that can’t be beaten by just mere clubs. As the champions league final still stands, they still remain the favourite for the finals and they will win it by anything possible they have to give into that match. Borussia Dortmund is not that much of a worthy opponent to contend with them in my opinion, but we have to still wait to see how the match will look like before finally giving the trophy to who most deserves it after the final game.

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Quote from: 3meek on May 21, 2024, 12:48:36 PM

I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...

I am beginning to have the feeling that Real Madrid will win this trophy, especially as the days get closer and coupled with what we witnessed from the case of Manchester City and Arsenal. We all hoped as much as possible that Arsenal takes the title of the Premier League but Manchester City, like magic, came on top of the game to do what they are good at doing which was to bag another EPL title for the 4th time in a row.

I have a believe that this is likely to end the same way, where most people are envisaging that Dortmund wins the trophy for the second time after a very long period of time. But it also seems like Real Madrid may end up showing more of the experience and capacity to take the trophy.

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I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...

You'll given to much credit to Real Madrid like they did a combat before they reach the final, didn't Dortmund follow the same path to clear some top teams. As much as Real Madrid is in good shape, Dortmund deserves some credit too, if it was that easy Manchester City, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and PSG will probably be one of the teams that would be sitting right next to Real Madrid fighting for the Champions League trophy but they are there waiting to take the fight and the fact that that they are not making mouth makes me wonder how they will be preparing for this final game.

If Dortmund has the PR Real Madrid has, I don't think this space is going to contain the both I understand their kind games, trying so hard to manipulate and pre-programme Dortmund to fear in accepting that they are only going to try to beat them in the final but Real Madrid are going to win eventually but it wouldn't work, Dortmund will push back if the ref is been fare for both teams.

There are many Real Madrid fans on forums who actually only hope that Real Madrid wins the Champions League title every season without considering the bad possibilities that Real Madrid will experience. I know they are very optimistic and are doing what they usually do, but taking Dortmund for granted who both reached the final this season is completely unjustified.

It depends on how big Real Madrid's chances are, what is certain is that Dortmund still has hope and the opportunity to win the title. Low or high chances of both teams before the match are never a benchmark for who will win, but the utilization of opportunities and also good performances from both teams during the match will determine everything.

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Real Madrid win in Wembley any of his Champions League? Or this is gonna be the first one in that mithycal stadium?.

I think if Real MAdrid ending up winning this Champions League is gonna be a good end for this kind of champions League, we have to remember this is the last one with this format, the next year is gonna be a total diferent one.

I still haven't found out what new format the Champions League will implement next season because at least, I still really enjoy the format implemented so far because it provides great tension. But yes, hopefully with the change in the format of the Champions League next season, I hope that the tension of the Champions League will still have great tension too, because it will be very interesting. But yes, if we talk about team that are candidates to win the Champions League trophy this season, I think it is clear that Real Madrid is a team with big candidates moreover after Real Madrid successfully eliminating Manchester City in the quarter-finals.

The opposition that Real Madrid actually faced so far in this season in the Champions League are definitely much more harder compared to Dortmund. That’s why I think almost all of the people actually agree that it is going to be a win for Real Madrid in the final of the Champions League. Surprises can happen especially when this is the Champions League final. But it is definitely not going to be expected, that’s why it is called a surprise.

I am also not very sure what they have implemented about the Champions League. I have also read the official statement. But I did not understand it clearly. If anyone has any idea about it please let me know.

Here is the official statement about the new way of the Champions League.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0268-12157d69ce2d-9f011c70f6fa-1000--new-format-for-champions-league-post-2024-everything-you-ne/

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Quote from: entertheabyss on May 21, 2024, 12:56:05 PM

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...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.

Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents.

Dortmund should be scared already, we are talking about the most decorated Champions league manager, someone who has been a coach close to 30+ years and with that experience it is hard to give Dortmund the wining odd. Yes, it aswell likely that Dortmund would have a chance but it's hard to believe. Real Madrid are not coming to pet the ball and go away with possessions, you own the ball and do your passes but the moment they receive the ball by any means there is the most highest possibility of them flashing the ball in the net and that has become the most striking characteristics of the team and it has brought them this far, just a single step to securing the title.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on May 21, 2024, 10:42:26 AM

There is no doubt that anything is possible in the finals of any competition. But then this final between Real Madrid and Dortmund is looking like it is not balanced. This is because Real Madrid is extremely experienced in the Champions League and they have played so many finals and won majority of them. Dortmund in the order hand is considered the underdogs. Any finals involving favourites and underdogs will likely bring either of the two outcomes;

Boring finals were the favourites dominates from the beginning
A surprising finals where the underdog performs more than the favourites.

I pray that the former should be the case and it will be memorable.

I don't think so, Dortmund cannot be underestimated because this season they have shown their quality so that they were able to reach the Champions League final this season, that is an achievement that deserves to be appreciated.
And indeed in the Champions League final match anything is possible to happen and indeed Real Madrid is quite the favorite, but I am sure that this match will be quite fierce.

Yea, no team that made it to the finals should be underestimated. But what I'm saying is that Real Madrid against any team in the world, Real Madrid is the favourite. Then Real Madrid against any team in the Champions League final, Real Madrid is the monster. We could actually expect a different result when it's Real Madrid Vs Manchester city or even Bayern Munich. I am not undermining Dortmund but I'm saying that they do not possess the champions league finals experience. I am seriously hoping that this finals should be competitive enough for the viewing pleasure of all football lovers world wide.

I haven't really watched Dortmund very well this season. But their ability to eliminate PSG should also be feared. This finals might produce more goals than expected.

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Real Madrid win in Wembley any of his Champions League? Or this is gonna be the first one in that mithycal stadium?.

I think if Real MAdrid ending up winning this Champions League is gonna be a good end for this kind of champions League, we have to remember this is the last one with this format, the next year is gonna be a total diferent one.

I know Real Madrid will going to handle this game, like this is the only trophy they are going to win this season because they have prepared for it to ensure they achieve the luck from the game, but if Borussia Dortmund will going to display what they displayed in their semi-final game, they will beat Real Madrid to lift the trophy.

Do you think Real Madrid have the strength to win this UEFA champions league trophy, because the team they are going to meet are very good and they are ready to do anything to disorganize Real Madrid plan in this final game, and it will going to surprise those that will going to predict for the favor of Real Madrid.

Many teams will going to prepare very well next season, because they will not allow what happened this season to happen again in the future, which it will be the reason many coaches will use summer period to sign in new players.

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Quote from: 3meek on May 21, 2024, 12:48:36 PM

I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...

You'll given to much credit to Real Madrid like they did a combat before they reach the final, didn't Dortmund follow the same path to clear some top teams. As much as Real Madrid is in good shape, Dortmund deserves some credit too, if it was that easy Manchester City, Barcelona, Bayern Munich and PSG will probably be one of the teams that would be sitting right next to Real Madrid fighting for the Champions League trophy but they are there waiting to take the fight and the fact that that they are not making mouth makes me wonder how they will be preparing for this final game.

If Dortmund has the PR Real Madrid has, I don't think this space is going to contain the both I understand their kind games, trying so hard to manipulate and pre-programme Dortmund to fear in accepting that they are only going to try to beat them in the final but Real Madrid are going to win eventually but it wouldn't work, Dortmund will push back if the ref is been fare for both teams.

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Quote from: entertheabyss on May 21, 2024, 12:56:05 PM

Quote from: legendbtc on May 21, 2024, 12:25:44 PM

...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.

Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents.

Because Ancelotti has great experience as one of the most successful managers, and at the same time Real Madrid also always has a great squad. Therefore, success for Real Madrid will atleast always be achieved even though Real Madrid always makes its best efforts to get lots of trophies and they don't get them easily. Therefore, although we also do not underestimate Dortmund but still, because basically Real Madrid is really the team that is projected to win in the final match of the Champions League this season. Because after all, Real Madrid also has many young players with great potential and at the same time, the senior players in the Real Madrid squad are still able to play with impressive performances. Thus, it is very natural that Real Madrid remains the favorite team to lift the Champions League trophy this season.

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Quote from: 3meek on May 21, 2024, 12:48:36 PM

I also think Real deserve and should take the title... But it's the final and anything can happen... Dortmund also did a very difficult job and also deserved to play in the final... I think it will be a very tough battle, but Real have more experience and probably look stronger...

A comparison of the performance of the two teams also clearly shows that Real Madrid is the one who deserves to win the UCL title this season. But I liked the way Dortmund fought hard. They also succeeded in making this UCL season less boring and full of surprises. Last season Inter Milan surprised us. But this season the bigger surprise came from Dortmund.

Apart from comparing the quality of the players, we can also compare the quality of the coaches from the two teams. And once again Real Madrid was superior. Ancelotti is known for the many trophies he has presented for Real Madrid. Meanwhile, Dortmund's coach, Edin Terzic, is a young coach who is actually still inferior in experience to Ancelotti. But because Edin Terzic is a young coach, it is possible that he can create a fresher strategy in preparation for facing Real Madrid. And there's no doubt that anything can still happen. But Real Madrid will still be the favorite by almost everyone.

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https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Ancelotti

Yes he is very good, in fact his history as a coach is full of successes, which began in Italy and then moved to Spain. Since 2021 he has successfully followed Real Madrid, but he has also done well elsewhere (such as at Milan).
Clearly having good players helps, but he is also a skilled strategist.

And he is smart, much.

There is no need to doubt Ancelotti's ability, he has won various prestigious trophies with different clubs. His ability to formulate strategies can be seen from his success so far, Ancelotti was also able to beat Pep Guardiola strategy in the semifinals. Initially, many people doubted that Real Madrid would go further in the UCL after having difficulty finding an ideal replacement for Benzema, but Ancelotti was able to cover this gap with his tactics which gave Bellingham the freedom to explore areas that were not his natural position.

Now that Real Madrid is very close to the UCL trophy, Ancelotti will do his best to bring Real Madrid back to success in this most prestigious competition. I also don't exclude Dortmund's ability, it could be Edin Terzic who will make Real Madrid bow down after the match ends.

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Quote from: legendbtc on May 21, 2024, 12:25:44 PM

...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.

Carlo Ancelotti is the master planner and also the the brains behind the exclusive success of Real Madrid. He have singlehandedly grown them to peak and they're probably the best club in Europe. Real Madrid have qualify for the UEFA Champions League final this season and we clearly know what it means for Los Blancos to feature in the UCL final. They never underestimate any chances because winning have been the mentality and grown up to be a disturbing challenge for other opponents.

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Quote from: legendbtc on May 21, 2024, 12:25:44 PM

...//:::Ancelotti is the author of this success.

+1

Without a doubt... there are phrase they say that the fans are the 12th player when playing at home, well, Ancelotti has stolen that motto from them whether at home or away.

Breaking odds against it, Ancelotti, Real Madrid, with one of the least vaunted teams in its history individually with new signings in any of its seasons, has the luxury of achieving a UCL, don't doubt it.

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