Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 54. (Read 141700 times)

Vinicius, Rodrygo, Bellingham, Modric, Kroos, Valverde, Brahim Díaz, Joselu and several other players have scored goals this season in the Champions League. All of these players are dangerous for Dortmund and none of the other players in the main line-up are worth underestimating, of course because they might be the ones who score goals instead of being marked.

Dortmund's game strategy is likely to be defense and counterattack, while Real Madrid's strategy is to attack. Dortmund advanced to the final with this strategy, but they would lose to Real Madrid if they only used defense and counterattacks. I'm sure Real Madrid will be free to exploit Dortmund's defense if they only play in the defensive area, but if both teams attack equally then there will certainly be something interesting to look forward to instead of hoping for Dortmund's luck.

Carlo Ancelotti is one of the most successful managers of all time and has won several UCL trophies for Real Madrid. Although the final match is very difficult for Real Madrid in other seasons, this season at least the final match will not be so difficult for Real Madrid and maybe this season Real Madrid will be able to plan the final match very naturally. Of all the players Real Madrid have, if Carlo Ancelotti drops his preferred XI, Dortmund won't do much against this team. If the final match needs a lot of planning, I'd say Dortmund needs to plan. Real Madrid has multiple strikers and the midfielders of Real Madrid play a lot of attacking football, but it is a very big question which midfielder will be tagged by the opposing defenders or which striker will be tagged.

I agree with you. I don't believe that Dortmund have no ability to beat Real Madrid.   In the past matches, we see the Dortmund team performing quite well. Especially Dortmund's defense is strong enough.   Dortmund won both matches against PSG thanks to their strong defence. So it will not be easy for the players of Real Madrid to break this strong defense of Dortmund.

Real Madrid are always considered favorites in the Champions League. However, we don't always see the favorites win the Champions League final. If Madrid make any mistake against Dortmund, Real Madrid has the possibility of losing this match.

Yesterday someone shared the same view with your point. The favorites Borussia Dortmund lost which is an indication that Real Madrid is not invincible. In sports, favorites might not win the game just like we saw in the finals yesterday. The UCL is not a different game because in sports anything can happen. Madrid might have all it takes to win but don't forget that Bayer Leverkusen has been unbeaten and from all predictions, Atalanta had no chance to win the trophy. But they had a convincing win through a single player whose luck shined on that day  This might also be the same experience in the UCL finals and we would see it as another wonder this season.

To what extent will Dortmund match Real Madrid in the final?  We think Real Madrid will probably dominate 60% of the time because this is a big team that is called the king of Europe and is a master in this field.

Of course we shouldn't underestimate Dortmund at all, we know how Atalanta silenced the Leverkusen fans? Well maybe what comes to my mind is that Real Madrid doesn't score more goals which means that the difference is not that big because somehow Dortmund will try to win even though in my opinion it is impossible.

Yes, actually if we talk about Real Madrid it is very different from Leverkusen but for me I would never compare Real Madrid with Leverkusen but instead have to compare Dortmund which is fairer to compare the two clubs.
As you said, Real Madrid has much greater experience but that is only from the past and we also have to see this season being one of the next seasons which could bring a big surprise from Dortmund which cannot be underestimated.
Both clubs have advantages, but both clubs also have weaknesses which could become even greater if their opponents knew about them.

Real Madrid wants to win in the final and Dortmund will also want to win, which means both clubs will both appear with maximum strength and try to improve the mentality of the players to win this prestigious title.
This will be a big, historic match if Dortmund can do the same as the competition at UEL.

Real Madrid will never be the same as Leverkusen, Real Madrid's mentality and experience are much better than Leverkusen even if Real Madrid is behind its opponent in a match. Of course, Ancelotti and most of the main players have good experience to support the team's good performance, but Real Madrid still has to be alert to whatever will happen in the final match.

Ancelotti will never underestimate his opponents, that's why Ancelotti rotates players in several La Liga matches. Preparation after preparation was done well, but we will never know about the final result until Wasti blows the whistle. I really hope Real Madrid can win in the final, but defeat cannot be completely ignored either.

Of course, Dortmund fans will hope that their team can beat Real Madrid, but even if this happens, it will not be such a confident victory as Atalanta achieved yesterday. Dortmund will defend and in this case it is not worth expecting that they will be able to score many goals against Real Madrid, it will be good if they manage to score at least one goal, and I am almost sure that Terzic will focus on playing in defense, and to what extent is this strategy will work for them, we’ll find out soon.

Considering with Dortmund manager Edin Terzic I think Carlo Ancelotti has much experienced by winning many Champion League trophies with difference team from Milan and several time with Real Madrid. So far Ancelotti have won five Champion League trophies and has bigger opportunity for winning six UCL with Real Madrid in this season. But the result of Europe League final match last night make us little doubt with not favorite team success make surprising by beating the favorite team, I think Real Madrid should lead early and not get conceded because get difficult for scoring goals behind Dortmund more solid with their defense performance.
Indeed the percentage winning ratio Madrid more dominance than Dortmund its can't guarantee for Madrid will beat Dortmund easily, I think has bigger motivate as underdog team without get pressure yet for Dortmund to get Champion League trophy for the first time.

Firstly, let me tell you something: Dortmund are not going to win Real Madrid, obviously. We all know how good Real Madrid are this season; we see how they defeat many tough teams. Even though I know that this is the final stage of the season and this will be the last game, and the winner will go home with the trophy, I still didn’t see any sign or performance in Dortmund that they would win Real Madrid. In the Champions League, Real Madrid will show how experienced they are, and you know that.

However, if you look at Bayern Leverkusen, you will know that they are no good as Real Madrid and Atlanta are also in form, not like Dortmund. I believe Dortmund can only do well because they see it as the final stage and won’t want to miss the opportunity, but I won’t give them any hope of winning the trophy. I can say that I’m confidently sure that Real Madrid will win the trophy.

If I remember correctly, Bayer was far from being such a clear favorite as Real is now, so I don’t see many analogies between these finals. But still, I think that after Atalanta’s victory, Dortmund’s chances worsened - firstly, the Real players themselves saw that being a favorite is not enough, they need to prove their strength by deeds, and secondly, dad Carlo, using this example, will show them how dangerous it is to underestimate the opponent and see in advance title in your hands. Now Real will be as focused as possible.

Ancelotti is not new to playing champions league finals, and everyone believes that real madrid will win the champions league final, and madrid has never lost a final before, and the history will continue, so I don't give dortmund any chance to win the title because since real madrid has eliminated bayern munich and manchester city, I don't see any club that can stop them in the final this season. I think expect next season, and now that real madrid has signed some new players to dortmund are also performing well because any team that reaches the champions league final signifies he is not a weak club, yet dortmund fail to challenges leverkusen in the league,but they do well and eliminate other big clubs and qualify to the final, is only dortmund that remain in the Germany club in all competition, and the rest of the club will be supporting them to get the opportunity and defeat real madrid and fulfill Marco Reus since this is the last champions league against dortmund and he will like to win the trophy with them before he leave the team, he won many trophy with the clubs but he did not get any champions league with the clubs. let see if he can get the chance and win the trophy but he won't be easy task.

If by any way the champions league finals reached the penalty shootout, it will be of more advantage to Dortmund than it will be for Real Madrid. If they cannot beat them in the full match, penalty which is a game of luck can be won by any team that’s lucky that day. Sometimes it doesn’t matter the number of good penalty takers you have, you just have to hopeful and lucky to win the game when it gets to that stage. The anxiety and trauma that comes with taking penalty when it’s in the final is different, even players you have confidence in can fail you that day. The match still remains in favour of Real Madrid and that’s obvious for everyone to see. For Dortmund to win is not impossible, but it just have to be through hardwork and luck.

I think it's almost impossible for that to happen. Leverkusen have a great record with 51 games unbeaten but I think they are both on different levels. Many say Leverkusen is the best team in Europe at the moment, but if the two of them faced each other, not everyone would agree that Leverkusen would win.

Of course, it is not impossible that Dortmund will win the match. Because nothing is impossible in football. However, if you look at the history of the two teams leading up to the final, Real Madrid was far superior by beating favorite teams such as City and Munich.

In my personal opinion Dortmund has no chance of winning. But they have the possibility to hold Real Madrid to a draw and take the match to a penalty shootout. I'm really excited for the UCL final night.

Well, this is what's interesting, in the European League almost what many people predicted didn't happen because Atalanta actually became champions. And I think this result will slightly influence the minds of some people who also hope that the results of the Champions League matches will be the same as what happened in the European League. Yes, it seems there are some people who think that Borussia Dortmund will face the odds in the final match.
It would be extraordinary if that really happened, because 2 different European competitions produced champions who were not from the more favored teams. but it is very difficult to see this all happening, because we are faced with Real Madrid who have a very high mentality, especially in the Champions League, they are the most successful team here and even from the finals they always play, they almost always win. won, only failed a few times. And I'm not sure Borussia Dortmund will deliver that failure either.

Yeah surely some Borussia Dortmunds fans after the Atalanta win from yesterday are started to think about they also can make the move and win the Champions League. But you know what? That has nothing to do with this, Real MAdrid is other thing and UCL final is a total diferent match, Real Madrid is not gonna be that soft like LEverkusen yesterday and they are not gonna give Dortmund any chance of make a move.

After yesterday's Europa League final, when almost everyone was sure of the opposite outcome, I also thought that Dortmund might have a chance of winning... Although I think Real will take the title, but if there is a spectacle like yesterday, it would probably be even more interesting... But still I think there could be extra time and a penalty shootout...

It's not just you, of course many of us here are starting to be a little hesitant about risking money just based on the opinion favorite team, Leverkusen defeat to Atlanta clearly shocked us all, but what we need to realize is that it seems like Leverkusen doesn't have a strong mentality when it comes to playing in the final European league, and of course it will be different from Madrid who have been the team that continues to dominate the Champions League with their toughness and mentality all this time, I personally will not try to underestimate Dortmund just because of their poor performance in the Bundesliga so far and even I'm quite sure that Dortmund will surprise Madrid in the final match.

Dortmund, who surprised us by being able to reach the final round, of course has high confidence in being able to end the season with the only trophy they can possibly get, beating Madrid in the final match Is of course not an easy job, but I think Edin Terzic has to do what did by the Atlanta coach when their team was underestimated before the final, the Atlanta coach kept looking at Leverkusen way of playing and analyzing all the possibilities that could stop Leverkusen and It turned out to be successful, so I think now Edin Terzic should be able to do the same thing by analyzing Madrid game to be able to get the gaps and weaknesses in Madrid game, so that that way he will know what to do to stop Madrid in the final match.

Carlo Ancelotti is a quite experienced coach, he has been through quite a lot in the Champions League. Therefore, I am sure that he respects every opponent, especially in the final match. Don Carlo remains grounded even though his team is the favorite. Dortmund also has big ambitions to win the title, it is very possible for them to appear all out and carefree even though they are not seeded. Yes, the results of the European League final match can be a reference that there is no guarantee that the team that is favored will be able to perform well, in fact the team that is not seeded will play without burden so that they have very much freedom in controlling the field. But will another miracle happen in the UCL final? However, I hope that this match can produce an exciting and one-sided match.

Real Madrid and Dortmund match is going to be a very tough one also and no team should be underestimated. For the Europa League final that was played yesterday, more than 90% of people wouldn’t have believed that Atalanta will pull through in that match and will win Bayern Leverkusen with that goal margin but it happens in football and that’s what we call the uncertainty of event which remains unknown to anyone until the game is played.

Real Madrid is still the best in the champions league finals and no matter what has happened in the Europa League final that the lesser quality team took the lead, it doesn’t mean same will happen in the champions league and at the same time doesn’t mean all hope be gave up on Dortmund. Anything can happen and the winner cannot be decided by speculations until the game is played. So I will still give my vote to Real Madrid but be expecting the other side of football to happen in this match.