Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 64. (Read 141700 times)

There are still 10+ days before the 2023/24 UCL Final is held, Dortmund has a longer rest time than Madrid because Bundesliga has finished. Meanwhile, Madrid still has a schedule against Real Betis on May 26. Madrid has a better chance of winning than Dortmund, that is what most people believe. If you look at the probabilities released by Google, Madrid has a 60% chance, not 50% anymore and made them as favorites to win the trophy.



This is makes sense and I agree with this probability, on paper Madrid has superior players. Will there be any surprises from Dortmund? I'm not sure. but nothing is impossible

Joselu said in point. I am going to say that Real Madrid is going to be the winner of this Champions League final just because of the history that Real Madrid has in the Champions League competition. They are definitely one of the best teams to play in the Champions League. And we all remember the numerous times that has been able to make a comeback from unbelievable situations and win Champions League matches. That's why I think Real Madrid should be able to win the Champions League title this season. But of course, whenever there is a final being played, we have to assume that both of the teams have a 50-50 chance to win. And of course, both of the teams also have the capability of winning the final. That's why they are in the final in the first place. But Real Madrid is undoubtedly going to be the favorite.

Source: https://www.realmadrid.com/en-US/news/football/first-team/latest-news/declas-19-05-2024

It is reported that Modric and Kroos will stay, the two most iconic players at the Santiago Bernabeu have received new short term contract extensions. If the news is true, then Real Madrid management has done their job very well, they see that these two players still have very good bargaining value. With their experience and winning mentality, these two veteran players are a reference for other young players, even though next season Modric and Kroos will no longer get as many playing minutes as usual.

Now that these two players will record the rare statistic of being the players who have collected the most Champions League trophies, it is very natural for management to retain players like them. Modric and Kroos played a big role in Real Madrid success in winning the La Liga trophy this season, and both are on their way to the Champions League final and give their best there. Even though the final against Dortmund will not be easy, it seems that Real Madrid will emerge as champions this season.

The bookmakers knew the obvious: Real Madrid was preparing for the final and would play with a second team. At the beginning of the game, Nacho, Carvajal, Camavinga, Bellingham, Vinny, Rodrigo were on the bench and only a few of them came on the field at the end of the game. This was an optional game for Real and should not be taken seriously.

I think that was also the case a season ago when Real Madrid won against Liverpool as well. They had the veteran players a bit younger, at that point Modric and Kroos etc were still quite good, but also they had Rodrygo and Vinicious playing amazingly as well, along with having Benzema as the driver at the striker position during that time. It was quite obvious that we have seen them do great that season when they had young and veteran players together.

This season will probably be the last of most veteran players, rkoos and modric may leave, modric for sure but kroos may stay for one more year, and this is why they will want to say goodbye to their star players, Modric brought so much for the team, even won ballon d'or between the famous messi vs ronaldo period.

I personally bet live on the match and because Real Madrid was initially in doubt, I got good odds even though I only chose the double chance option. When the match in the first half the score was very big 1-4 so I regretted that I only chose double chance, but in the end it seemed like the bookie knew something and I got my bet. But apart from these results, of course the match in the Champions League final will certainly be very different. Even though Real Madrid conceded quickly against Villarreal but still, in the final match I am completely confident that Real Madrid will win and I am also sure that the match will be finished in regular time.

If we compare it with historical statistics (over the last 100 years lol), then this is 100% accurate as it gives us current data on the balance of power, doesn’t it? What is more important to know - how teams played among themselves 20 years ago or how good they are now? It seems to me that the answer is obvious.
Well, the fact that the result may be “illogical” is logical  otherwise everyone would know the result in advance and there would be no point in the game itself.

yes it is true, we will not know the exact result of a match when we the match has not started or has been completed, I do not deny it about this, and it is logically true.

But we can speculate about a match by analyzing and assessing who is more likely to win the match, isn't that the fun thing about a speculation before the match starts and we can bet on it?, predictions are also not always wrong, there are several factors and stages that need to be done to produce a conclusion of the possibility that we can predict. but the name of the prediction is only a collection of odds and wishful thinking based on personal speculation, right or wrong it returns to the match that has been completed.

Regarding Dortmund vs Real Madrid, we certainly feel who is more likely to win the match, even though the match has not yet started. and that is a prediction.

Madrid are of course favourites to win the final, but I think Dortmund who also come with high hopes certainly don't want to miss their chance to win the Champions League for the second time in the club history, right now Madrid do have everything they need to win the Champions League again, but of course Madrid must be wary of the unyielding attitude that Dortmund has always had,  In my opinion, both teams still have the same chance to win the Champions League regardless of Madrid status which is indeed very favorite in the match later.

The gambling market makes a significant comparison on the odds of the two teams to win, Madrid is certainly not surprising to get odds of 1.60, while Dortmund instead get odds of 5.00 and draw odds of 4.33, Madrid is certainly the choice of most of us to risk money to get a win, but I think, seeing the odds are too big on a draw,  It seems that there is nothing wrong for us to try to go against the flow by risking a little money on a draw later, because the performance of both teams is of course not impossible if indeed the match will be decided by penalty shootouts.

Real Madrid are far ahead to win the Champions League but here we must imagine Dortmund also trying to win the trophy. Dortmund entered the Champions League with a lot of difficulty in the final so they will not give up so easily but will try their best to win the match against Real Madrid. Of course, we can confirm in this match that most of the gamblers will bet on Real Madrid and they will be optimistic enough to win but it is necessary to be careful because Dortmund also has a chance to win. Since Dortmund have managed to enter the final match in UCL, they must be strong and will have their strong attack against Real Madrid, so Madrid will also have to play with good caution. Each team will be looking for more chances in the match so we think both teams will have plenty of counter-attacks and the team that plays the strongest of these attacks will only hope to win. And if the real madrid team is more excited in the match then surely they will beat Dortmund because real madrid is more skilled and experienced in their champion league. In this match we are waiting to see a lot of surprises but both teams will try hard enough to win the title so the match will be very interesting.

Anyone just see what Real Madrid do yesterday on his LaLiga match against Villarreal?

How you can go in the halftime winning 4-1 playing with subs and when you come back fromt he halftime you allow 3 goals in a shor span of time, they allowed 3 goals in 10 minutes! just crazy, and the game ended 4-4, i dont think this is gonna happen to them on the UCL final because they are gonna be much more in focus but..... take care.

Anyway, previously Dortmund had won the Champions League title in the 96/97 season and at that time they managed to beat Juventus in the final with a score of 3-1, so it would be very wrong if you said that Dortmund had never won this title. Furthermore, this could be the second title for Dortmund if they manage to beat Real Madrid in the final this season but we all know it won't be easy.

Everyone knows it will be more difficult when the opponent they face is the winner of the most titles in this competition, especially as Real Madrid is aiming for its 15th title. But on the other hand, we also shouldn't underestimate the slightest bit of not being seeded and somehow Dortmund managed to advance to the final round with their hard work. So regardless of how each team performs in the domestic league, this will not affect their performance in the final match.

The biggest mistake Madrid may make in this game is to think that Dortmund is going to be really easy to contend or to even think that they would want to underestimate the abilities of Dortmund until they get to see the capabilities of Dortmund because Dortmund happes to be in one of the competitive leagues in Europe as their domestic league, premier league, la Liga and the bundesliga happens to be the most competitive domestic leagues in Europe.

Been amongst the top teams in one of the competitive leagues in Europe is actually a good reason not to see a team less because they can actually get to surprise you in such a way you had never expected it will be and you may end up not been able to get to recover from the fact that you underestimated them and by all indications, it's clear Madrid is really getting prepared to making sure they are able to win the game against Dortmund without any form of giving Dortmund a chance at it because in their last game they didn't use their main squad just to make sure they stay fit for the champions league.

I personally just expect to see a very intriguing game that will be filled with a whole lot of actios.so I definitely not want to think that these teams are Better than the other but the best team who plays better that day is definitely going to make it to winning the trophy while the other may ha e to try again maybe next season hopefully they get lucky but for this season the best goes home with the trophy.

Dortmund often surprises this season, they drew twice against Leverkusen and beat Bayern Munich when playing at the Allianz Arena in the Bundesliga, they also caused a surprise when they eliminated PSG in the UCL semifinals. I think Dortmund will not let Real Madrid get an easy win in the final because they also really want to win the UCL trophy. Dortmund experience in the UCL cannot be doubted, they also managed to get rid of other strong teams easily.

Real Madrid must not be too confident despite its status as the top team, Ancelotti must be more alert to the surprises that Dortmund might present. Dortmund managed to keep clean sheets in the two semi-final games, this fact shows that Dortmund is more focused on strengthening their defense when facing big teams. Relying on counter-attacks is Dortmund's strategy when they manage to control the ball. PSG has become a victim of the surprise presented by Dortmund. Real Madrid could be the next victim if they are not more careful in anticipating fast attacks from Dortmund players.

Among these teams, I think Leverkusen appearance in the Champions League is eagerly awaited by everyone, considering that many people are wondering whether Xabi fleet will be able to continue its impressive season next season. Aston Villa, Girona, Bologna and Stuttgart are also very lucky to be able to enter the Champions League competition next season. As a dark horse team, who knows they could create many surprises that we never expected.

If these dark horse teams are in an easy group, their journey in the Champions League next season might exceed their target. However, Madrid, City, Bayern will still be the most serious championship contenders, but it would be very interesting if Leverkusen were included in the list of teams being taken into account.

On the other hand, the pressure and challenges when playing in the Champions League are certainly very different from other competitions, therefore the dark horse teams need to increase the depth of their squad to be able to realize their respective targets. Likewise with Leverkusen, expectations for them next season will be quite high, where Xabi stay as manager influences this.

Actually, overall Madrid is on top of everything to win this match. But Dortmund also doesn't want this match to end easily, when all the gamblers seem optimistic about betting on Madrid victory. Apart from this optimism, I am also still wary of Dortmund ambitions, it is clear that we could get unexpected surprises. Dortmund has experience in the UCL which further strengthens the fact that Madrid must remain careful with the strategy they prepare. Steps in anticipating Dortmund's pressure are definitely to take advantage of counter attacks. They are aware that on the field Real Madrid can dominate the match, apart from trying to defend Dortmund will definitely try to take advantage of gaps in the open defense.

These clubs will certainly enliven the UCL competition next season. I can't wait for these clubs to appear with their best performance next season, especially seeing the latest performances of Bayer Leverkusen and VFB Stuttgart which broke the dominance of the Bundesliga. Hopefully these German clubs will further improve the quality of their performance this season. ahead and better than this season for VFB Stuttgart maybe not so convincing but hopefully my predictions are wrong usually these clubs have difficulty if they have a busy schedule.

I also believe that as long as Bayer Leverkusen is still in Alonso's hands Bayer Leverkusen will definitely still have good performance and will further improve the quality of its players next season, Alonso's intelligence in setting strategy is no longer in doubt but we can't predict it at this time but what is clear is that I want to see changes which is quite surprising in the fight for the UCL title next season.

everything you say is very true and more precisely, all Real Madrid players have very high quality talents and all this is thanks to Ancelotti who succeeded in building a very solid team to be able to create players who support each other to improve the talents of each player.
It's no wonder that a player who joins Madrid can always have very high improvements like Bellingham, who you said has had changes in his skills which are now highly recognized by everyone and it's all thanks to the support of the coach and other players who always raise enthusiasm among the players.
on the one hand, it is not only the main players who have increased the quality of their talent, but also reserve players like Joselu, who was once underestimated when he was at Alaves but has now become highly praised when he joins Madrid when his talent has increased.
not only Joselu but also Arda Guler, as a young player who was originally going to be loaned to another team, turned out to be very talented after Ancelotti gave him the opportunity to appear fully in the remaining time at the end of the season, he managed to score 6 scores with Real Madrid and that was a very good result for the young player.

this is why Madrid is always the favorite because the quality of the team is higher than other teams in terms of squad depth, Madrid is always the best.
Dortmund only has defensive options as you said, but believe me, Dortmund playing style is almost the same as Bayern Munich, which in the end no matter how strong Dortmund defense is, the experience of the Madrid players is very large, they always have a way to destroy Dortmund defense.

It doesn't always work like that. Dortmund knocked out Atletico Madrid and PSG who are in better positions in their local leagues than Dortmund. The year Chelsea won the champions League against Man City, they were not top of the league.
Finals goes down to who wants it more, who's more experienced to win it. It's a one game match, whatever happens in the match determines the winner. There are no second legs or whatever. So saying a team would win because they're top of their league and they're opponents is 5th isn't accurate.

Real Madrid are obvious winners of that match, but that is because they're the better team. They have more experienced players, they have better players and coach, they have more experience with the champions League too.
What's going to make it interesting is that Dortmund knows all these. They know they're the underdogs, so they won't go there for o be slaughtered, they'll prepare for it. They're not just going to let Madrid run them over, if you've been watching Dortmund in the UCL recently, you'll understand this.
The odds are still in favour or Madrid, but Dortmund are going to fight, I don't believe they'll win because I've always known Dortmund to be that club that bottles when you need them, but they'll put up a fight.

Indeed, and that’s why they say football is not in media but it is to play. When it comes to statistics and historic, Real Madrid without any doubt has way more chances to win the finals, but look who eliminated PSG, not even Barcelona with all their history and come backs they did against PSG, only Dortmund could do it, when everyone was waiting the opposite to happen. The same thing now with this great final, if Dortmund isn’t a good performing team, they would achieve and get to this point.

When it comes to betting, everyone has a choice to bet on his favorite team and best odds, however, it is not always the case that higher odds means a certain result. Personally, I would go with Real Madrid winning the UCL, but I can’t be sure nor if they would win in the 90 minutes of the game or until extra times, maybe even penalties.