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Quote from: TastyChillySauce00 on December 26, 2023, 12:22:36 AM

It's caused by those have no capability to stay at the top but it's unlike real madrid which is always being very consistent anytime. This is also the main reason why madrid was able winning UCL three times in a row. Can you tell me which club that has also achieved madrid's achievement?
There was no club who can perform as consistent as real madrid. This club is always performing very consistent in any seasons. No doubt that rela madrid is always become the best club in the world. Manchester city has been using lots of money to build the long term squad.
Pep sees that if the club needs also to consider it for the long term as well caused by the club will never be profitable if it was only able to building the squad for short term. It's caused by the inflation and unpredictable factor can also pumping the price of players.
Barcelona may be declining so hard caused by the club has no money left. In fact, barcelona is facing financial trouble which will be giving huge impact to the performance from the club.
Im not doubting it caused by have seen recent announcement said that if barcelona is willing to sell a lot of its players. Glad to see that if it was performing worst in the future. Real madrid will have lose 1 of its competitor to get la liga.

That is the reason why Real Madrid usually looks better than Barcelona as well, they are more consistent. I mean look at them right now, they are at the chase for a first place and another title, look at Barcelona, they are doing much worse, last year Barcelona won this league, how come they became so bad after just a single summer? Real was second place last year, first this year, and first the year before last year, they are always around there and trying.

Consistency is very important for a team, you may not win the league every single season, but you need to be trying to win it every year when you are that big, and they do, they never give up, Barcelona already gave up this years title chase, it's the inconsistency that is causing their trouble. I do think that money plays a big role, but not like they were super wealthy last season and yet they still won, so that means money can't be blamed all the time, they made bad transfers along the way.

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Barcelona won the La Liga last season but with the way they are performing this season, nothing good can be expected from them this season as well. They lack a great finisher and have considerable weaknesses in their defense as well. They enter the field with the same strategy to catch every match. To do well in major tournaments, Barcelona must work on their weaknesses as well as change their tactics, only then will they be able to do well. Barcelona is a big name for those of us who follow La Liga regularly and we always have a bit higher expectations for Barcelona but currently Barcelona are not able to perform to our expectations at all.

I agree with you, Barcelona won the last season La liga beating even stronger team's like Real Madrid to top the league, which was a good performance and to keep to that trends, there is a need to further ride on the record and performance better than the last season, but truly this season, Barcelona have not really shown any level pf consistency in their performance and in the last few matches, it has become clear that the club is struggling in this season much more than the last season when their we're able to win the league title.

Most of the time, is either they play draw game or even lose to their opponents in this season.

Barcelona have seen plenty of signings this season and have brought in former Manchester City captain and former midfielder İlkay Gündoğan to strengthen their midfield but have failed to bring in a tactical change despite signing several players. There are enough flaws in the team's strategy that we are not seeing anything good from the team despite bringing in quality players. I would say that Barcelona are not able to perform as well as they did last season, rather they are performing worse this season than last season. Last season Real Madrid's full focus was on the Champions League so they didn't give too much importance to La Liga but this season Real Madrid is giving more importance to La Liga due to which it won't be easy for Barcelona to win the La Liga title this season.

Barcelona results in this season showed that those people they signed in this season are not doing their work well, because there is no improvement yet like what will saw last season that was making many teams in the champion league competition and other competitions to be afraid of Barcelona base on the way they where defeating teams to improve. I don't think, Barcelona will achieve anything from this champions league competition because there are many potential teams are well prepared to use their new tactics to win this title which many of the teams proven their seriousness in the round 16. For the la Liga league competition, I don't think Real Madrid will allow Barcelona to do what they did last season to embrace the title than to maintain their new strategies that made them to be in the first position till the end of the tournament.

Barcelona has won the La Liga title in the last few seasons but Barcelona's Champions League results have been very poor in the last few seasons. Barcelona have been more interested in signing young players in this season's transfer window and they have taken young players to their club but the players who have signed with their club are not doing well at all.l Barcelona have signed young players but the performances of those players are not satisfying Barcelona due to which the new young players have to sit on the site bench in most of the matches. Like Barcelona's failures in Champions League in other seasons, they will probably prove themselves as failures in the Champions League this season.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 26, 2023, 03:56:07 AM

Arsenal is one of the teams that must be able to compete in all existing competitions, including the Champions League. The reason is that this team from London is currently in intense competition with other clubs in the domestic league and on the other hand they also have to think about their chances of qualifying from the round of 16 against Porto. As we know, Porto is not an easy team to beat and this team will definitely make things difficult for Arsenal in the future. If the aggregate ends in a draw, it will certainly put everyone on the cusp of death because they have to try hard to qualify, even having to go through extra time or a penalty shootout.

Mikel Arteta must start moving quickly and if possible add to the squad which he feels is lacking by buying several more players in January. Because being able to advance to the last 16 of the Champions League is a rare thing for them and they are able to do it with the squad they have built in the past few seasons. So Mikel Arteta certainly doesn't want to experience difficulties against Porto later and must be sure he can escape with promising results.

Champions League are for serious and elite clubs and not for some lucky random clubs. Arsenal are not lucky because they've tried so hard to compete and maintain their winning top level in both EPL and outside major tournaments featured. Arsenal have the potentials to reach important phases in the UEFA Champions League competition but can they can they able to maintain streak winnings in the round of 16? Mikel Arteta is busy setting his crucial plans for Gunners because he's here to make a difference, atleast from other coaches who managed and couldn't yield any solid results at Emirate stadium. Mikel Arteta will add more players in January transfer market and there's a whole lot he can deal with, there will always be challenges and fixing them doesn't come easy as supposed.

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Quote from: Dump3er on December 25, 2023, 11:45:05 PM

But aren't you mixing up two competitions here? Regarding La Liga, Barcelona was doing way better last season and their defense was particularly strong compared to the rest of the league. But in the Champions League they failed to advancd to the next round. Yes the group was easier this season, but they did make it and now we will see what their overall condition is. In La Liga it is not what anyone would have hoped for and I don't see a lot of potential for them to improve.

Napoli has its own set of struggles and this is what may ignite some hope within them. But Napoli is still Napoli and we will see one team that is in bad shape getting confirmed as one of the losers of this season.

Currently, after Ster Teegan got injury Barcelona have conceded many goals and their defense area not performed quit well not only in La Liga but also in UEFA Champion League. I doubt until this season over how many conceded goals again regarding Ster Teegan will absent until the end of this year, but have good opportunity with Barcelona opponent team Napoli have bad performance in 16 of round, their performance in Serie A not impressive well and new manager Walter Mazzari still not get quit well starting line up how to make Napoli keep in the top performance.

Its first 16 round appearance for Barcelona because last two season their journey in Champion League stuck on group round stage, for Napoli they have quit well performed in Champion League and last season almost raise to semifinal phase before defeating by AC Milan.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 26, 2023, 03:56:07 AM

Mikel Arteta must start moving quickly and if possible add to the squad which he feels is lacking by buying several more players in January. Because being able to advance to the last 16 of the Champions League is a rare thing for them and they are able to do it with the squad they have built in the past few seasons. So Mikel Arteta certainly doesn't want to experience difficulties against Porto later and must be sure he can escape with promising results.

I think Arteta must have thought about this, but we also need to remember that adding new players to the main squad doesn't necessarily have a good impact in a short time, sometimes there are some big clubs that play new players which are much worse, it's not easy for players with adapt quickly, unless you get new players from clubs in the same league, it might be easy to adapt quickly to the main squad.

Arsenal need young players who of course have stable performance so that they don't feel tired in focusing on matches in the UCL and in the EPL. For this reason, their key players must of course be able to be looked after and Arteta must also be able to rotate his players so that they remain in good performance against their opponents. I'm still not sure that Arsenal will be able to qualify for the next round, but if they succeed, of course they have to take advantage of the moment in January to buy new players.

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Arsenal is one of the teams that must be able to compete in all existing competitions, including the Champions League. The reason is that this team from London is currently in intense competition with other clubs in the domestic league and on the other hand they also have to think about their chances of qualifying from the round of 16 against Porto. As we know, Porto is not an easy team to beat and this team will definitely make things difficult for Arsenal in the future. If the aggregate ends in a draw, it will certainly put everyone on the cusp of death because they have to try hard to qualify, even having to go through extra time or a penalty shootout.

Mikel Arteta must start moving quickly and if possible add to the squad which he feels is lacking by buying several more players in January. Because being able to advance to the last 16 of the Champions League is a rare thing for them and they are able to do it with the squad they have built in the past few seasons. So Mikel Arteta certainly doesn't want to experience difficulties against Porto later and must be sure he can escape with promising results.

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Quote from: Dzwaafu11 on December 26, 2023, 03:06:07 AM

Last season was a very good season for Barcelona. They were very strong last season, and they're topping the table, but this season, to be honest, Barcelona is doing very poorly. They can’t even do at least what they did last season; they can’t beat the team that they were beating last season. Even their weak opponents have been challenging for them this season, and still, I haven’t seen any improvement that they may get their performance back before the end of the season.

Yes, this season Barcelona has lost its performance but for me it doesn't matter because barcelona still having difficulty bringing more quality player which affects their performance decline and on the one hand their mainstay players have gone through their youth and are little older, of course this also affects the future of the club. This It possible that Xavi still has a way to revive Barcelona before end of the season but he still has to wait for free players to be brought to this club and if Xavi can get good players he can definitely at least get the runner up position in LaLiga.
But I'm not sure Barcelona will be able to survive longer in the champions League because there are so many strong club that they have to get past, whereas currently barcelona doesn't have clarity on how will perform in the long term and I'm worried it won't qualify.
Barcelona must immediately make efforts that can improve the club performance by bringing in players from the transfer market or getting player loans to be able to continue their performance in next round or else Barcelona will have to be eliminated more quickly the next round.

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Barcelona won the La Liga last season but with the way they are performing this season, nothing good can be expected from them this season as well. They lack a great finisher and have considerable weaknesses in their defense as well. They enter the field with the same strategy to catch every match. To do well in major tournaments, Barcelona must work on their weaknesses as well as change their tactics, only then will they be able to do well. Barcelona is a big name for those of us who follow La Liga regularly and we always have a bit higher expectations for Barcelona but currently Barcelona are not able to perform to our expectations at all.

I agree with you, Barcelona won the last season La liga beating even stronger team's like Real Madrid to top the league, which was a good performance and to keep to that trends, there is a need to further ride on the record and performance better than the last season, but truly this season, Barcelona have not really shown any level pf consistency in their performance and in the last few matches, it has become clear that the club is struggling in this season much more than the last season when their we're able to win the league title.

Last season was a very good season for Barcelona. They were very strong last season, and they're topping the table, but this season, to be honest, Barcelona is doing very poorly. They can’t even do at least what they did last season; they can’t beat the team that they were beating last season. Even their weak opponents have been challenging for them this season, and still, I haven’t seen any improvement that they may get their performance back before the end of the season.

Before the beginning of this season, I was thinking they would do better; they won the title last season, but they failed to do that. If another team wins the tittle of another season, they always try as much as they can to perform excellently, but Barcelona are not like that, and still, I'm yet to see their weak position.

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Most of the time, is either they play draw game or even lose to their opponents in this season.

Yes, it is so surprising to me. Also, even though the weak teams are beating them or playing a draw with Barcelona, I think Barcelona should show that they have been there before, and even in the season, they are supposed to show consistency and do well in their matches.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on December 25, 2023, 12:59:04 PM

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Barcelona is not in any way in comparison with Napoli even though Napoli has shown some positive results in their last game and even at that in terms of statistics, Barcelona is still very much ahead of them and for sure be in the champion leagues, Barcelona will give many clubs a hard time and a run off for any of their winnings or even draw.

I am sure Barcelona may not lift the championship trophy this season but then there is the possibility of them placing themselves in a good position that can easily propel them to possible success.

We are talking about the actual Barcelona and the current Napoli performance without taking on consideration the winter transfer window and the injuries that might happen in the future.
So far Barcelona record are better than Napoli. In fact, Barca didn't lose any of their games against Napoli for at least four years if not more. I expect them to win but I wouldn't judge about which team is favourite until few days before the game in order to have a better look on the situation.

To be honest, this is the only match in the Uefa Champions League which will be a 50/50 in my eyes. None of them are doing great right now, both struggling in their own league. Napoli just lost to Roma 2-0 Yesterday and Barcelona had a tough victory against Almeria in their last La Liga match. Almeria is the team which is sitting at the bottom of the La Liga. Lewandowski seems out of touch and they have problems in both forward side and the defender side.

Maybe yes, maybe no. I meant that if im concerning about that barcelona is going to lose some players, this can be another disaster for the club consider barcelona has been trying so hard to make sure it will not be losing the momentum but he latest nwes about that has made my lose my confidence. Barcelona is in under big pressure right now. It's caused by the club needs to perform even better than before. Xavi needs to prepare alternative plan for that thing to happen. Napoli has big chance to win the game if barcelona will not be able to perform with the main squad.
Barcelona has a very good history against napoli but it was not always dominating the gmeplay against napoli. Xavi is also in the difficult situation as there are lots of pressures for him.

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Napoli doesn't seem to be doing much lately. After that defeat against Roma, they are in the 7th spot. Whoever wins their match between Barcelona vs Napoli, will get eliminated in the Quarter Finals. I don’t see any of these 2 teams going to the Semi-Final. Napoli and Barcelona have a chance of doing something in January with transfer windows but Barcelona is struggling financially as well.

At least we needs to focus on this match as this is also determining which club that is giong to go to the next stage. Barcelona and napoli are the same strong right now. Napoli's performance is quite poort right now but barcelona needs to always be careful against it.
Mazzarri may be trying to explore the main weakness of barcelona.

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Barcelona won the La Liga last season but with the way they are performing this season, nothing good can be expected from them this season as well. They lack a great finisher and have considerable weaknesses in their defense as well. They enter the field with the same strategy to catch every match. To do well in major tournaments, Barcelona must work on their weaknesses as well as change their tactics, only then will they be able to do well. Barcelona is a big name for those of us who follow La Liga regularly and we always have a bit higher expectations for Barcelona but currently Barcelona are not able to perform to our expectations at all.

I agree with you, Barcelona won the last season La liga beating even stronger team's like Real Madrid to top the league, which was a good performance and to keep to that trends, there is a need to further ride on the record and performance better than the last season, but truly this season, Barcelona have not really shown any level pf consistency in their performance and in the last few matches, it has become clear that the club is struggling in this season much more than the last season when their we're able to win the league title.

Most of the time, is either they play draw game or even lose to their opponents in this season.

Barcelona have seen plenty of signings this season and have brought in former Manchester City captain and former midfielder İlkay Gündoğan to strengthen their midfield but have failed to bring in a tactical change despite signing several players. There are enough flaws in the team's strategy that we are not seeing anything good from the team despite bringing in quality players. I would say that Barcelona are not able to perform as well as they did last season, rather they are performing worse this season than last season. Last season Real Madrid's full focus was on the Champions League so they didn't give too much importance to La Liga but this season Real Madrid is giving more importance to La Liga due to which it won't be easy for Barcelona to win the La Liga title this season.

Barcelona results in this season showed that those people they signed in this season are not doing their work well, because there is no improvement yet like what will saw last season that was making many teams in the champion league competition and other competitions to be afraid of Barcelona base on the way they where defeating teams to improve. I don't think, Barcelona will achieve anything from this champions league competition because there are many potential teams are well prepared to use their new tactics to win this title which many of the teams proven their seriousness in the round 16. For the la Liga league competition, I don't think Real Madrid will allow Barcelona to do what they did last season to embrace the title than to maintain their new strategies that made them to be in the first position till the end of the tournament.

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Quote from: Dump3er on December 25, 2023, 11:45:05 PM

But aren't you mixing up two competitions here? Regarding La Liga, Barcelona was doing way better last season and their defense was particularly strong compared to the rest of the league. But in the Champions League they failed to advancd to the next round. Yes the group was easier this season, but they did make it and now we will see what their overall condition is. In La Liga it is not what anyone would have hoped for and I don't see a lot of potential for them to improve.

Napoli has its own set of struggles and this is what may ignite some hope within them. But Napoli is still Napoli and we will see one team that is in bad shape getting confirmed as one of the losers of this season.

we cannot mix La Liga competitions with UCL or other leagues because the conditions will be very different if they are already in UCL. a team that looks weak in the domestic league can become very strong in UCL and this situation cannot always be predicted but we can see it from performance in the group stage in that round we can see how strong the performance is to be able to continue in the next round and we also cannot ignore the surprise injury of players which can affect the team's performance.

what is certain is that Barcelona and Napoli are still in the same good condition, it's just that before the match starts we will definitely be surprised by something that will cause the team to lose.

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Quote from: Wiwo on December 25, 2023, 12:59:46 PM

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Barcelona won the La Liga last season but with the way they are performing this season, nothing good can be expected from them this season as well. They lack a great finisher and have considerable weaknesses in their defense as well. They enter the field with the same strategy to catch every match. To do well in major tournaments, Barcelona must work on their weaknesses as well as change their tactics, only then will they be able to do well. Barcelona is a big name for those of us who follow La Liga regularly and we always have a bit higher expectations for Barcelona but currently Barcelona are not able to perform to our expectations at all.

I agree with you, Barcelona won the last season La liga beating even stronger team's like Real Madrid to top the league, which was a good performance and to keep to that trends, there is a need to further ride on the record and performance better than the last season, but truly this season, Barcelona have not really shown any level pf consistency in their performance and in the last few matches, it has become clear that the club is struggling in this season much more than the last season when their we're able to win the league title.

Most of the time, is either they play draw game or even lose to their opponents in this season.

Barcelona have seen plenty of signings this season and have brought in former Manchester City captain and former midfielder İlkay Gündoğan to strengthen their midfield but have failed to bring in a tactical change despite signing several players. There are enough flaws in the team's strategy that we are not seeing anything good from the team despite bringing in quality players. I would say that Barcelona are not able to perform as well as they did last season, rather they are performing worse this season than last season. Last season Real Madrid's full focus was on the Champions League so they didn't give too much importance to La Liga but this season Real Madrid is giving more importance to La Liga due to which it won't be easy for Barcelona to win the La Liga title this season.

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Barcelona won the La Liga last season but with the way they are performing this season, nothing good can be expected from them this season as well. They lack a great finisher and have considerable weaknesses in their defense as well. They enter the field with the same strategy to catch every match. To do well in major tournaments, Barcelona must work on their weaknesses as well as change their tactics, only then will they be able to do well. Barcelona is a big name for those of us who follow La Liga regularly and we always have a bit higher expectations for Barcelona but currently Barcelona are not able to perform to our expectations at all.

No one knows what really the problem is but i know Xavi is not a bad coach and compared to past coaches he is far better them and have shown significant improvement in the team. Not sure where the problem lies this season because they added a few talent to their squad like Felix and Cancelo but it seems those two can’t really help out much, i get surprised how they were excellent last season and went on to win the La Liga title and this season they are struggling to win matches when they are supposed to be challenging for the title.

This season is not a good season for them but that is football, at times things are bad and while sometimes things are good so i think we should bear with them and exercise patience and hope for a change before the season ends or next season.

The financial problems faced by Barcelona this season have an impact on their performance in the matches they play, we cannot blame buy the players needed for the Barcelona squad this season..

Because this is the main obstacle that occurs for Barcelona management, management demands that Xavi use the current players, although buying new players to improve Barcelona's game this season seems very difficult for the management to implement because it is constrained by limited funds. , Barcelona must buy a midfielder to be able to manage the attack power which is not very prominent this season, because it could affect the performance of their attackers in providing the ball...

Maybe but the Barcelona team is still four times as valuable as the Girona team and twice the value of Atletico Madrid. It is indeed the case that Barcelona can't make the big moves like Real Madrid and while Madrid bought Bellingham, whose value shot up to 180 million euros, Barcelona is trying to make cheap deals with players like Lewandowski. Real Madrid invests into the future, Barcelona does so too, but not for themselves. Instead they paid a lot of money for Lewandowski and thereby invested into Bayern Munich's future, which by the way signed Harry Kane one year later who is five years younger than Lewandowski. These cheap moves cost them money at some point and they have been doing this for a while now.

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Barcelona won the La Liga last season but with the way they are performing this season, nothing good can be expected from them this season as well. They lack a great finisher and have considerable weaknesses in their defense as well. They enter the field with the same strategy to catch every match. To do well in major tournaments, Barcelona must work on their weaknesses as well as change their tactics, only then will they be able to do well. Barcelona is a big name for those of us who follow La Liga regularly and we always have a bit higher expectations for Barcelona but currently Barcelona are not able to perform to our expectations at all.

No one knows what really the problem is but i know Xavi is not a bad coach and compared to past coaches he is far better them and have shown significant improvement in the team. Not sure where the problem lies this season because they added a few talent to their squad like Felix and Cancelo but it seems those two can’t really help out much, i get surprised how they were excellent last season and went on to win the La Liga title and this season they are struggling to win matches when they are supposed to be challenging for the title.

This season is not a good season for them but that is football, at times things are bad and while sometimes things are good so i think we should bear with them and exercise patience and hope for a change before the season ends or next season.

The financial problems faced by Barcelona this season have an impact on their performance in the matches they play, we cannot blame buy the players needed for the Barcelona squad this season..

Because this is the main obstacle that occurs for Barcelona management, management demands that Xavi use the current players, although buying new players to improve Barcelona's game this season seems very difficult for the management to implement because it is constrained by limited funds. , Barcelona must buy a midfielder to be able to manage the attack power which is not very prominent this season, because it could affect the performance of their attackers in providing the ball...

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Quote from: Wiwo on December 25, 2023, 12:08:59 PM

Barcelona is not in any way in comparison with Napoli even though Napoli has shown some positive results in their last game and even at that in terms of statistics, Barcelona is still very much ahead of them and for sure be in the champion leagues, Barcelona will give many clubs a hard time and a run off for any of their winnings or even draw.

I am sure Barcelona may not lift the championship trophy this season but then there is the possibility of them placing themselves in a good position that can easily propel them to possible success.

Barcelona's current form will not make it difficult for any team to win or even draw their next Champions League game. Barcelona has been playing very badly this season, in any competition Barcelona will not raise any trophy this season. How did you think that would be possible for them succeed? No, I don't think so, Barcelona used to be ahead of Napoli during the Messi era, but that is not anymore. I think they believe that their striker is the problem, and after signing a new striker, I don't think Lewandowski will have many opportunities in the club anymore. I know Napoli is struggling to win their matches in Italian league, but I think they are going to win in the upcoming round 16 match between Napoli vs Barcelona.

Given that they will be playing with their current players, I think Napoli will give it their all to defeat Barcelona in that match, both at home and away. Barcelona could have given up to a team that is playing better this season, but they can give it another try next year.

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Real Sociedad's performance this season has improved quite a lot and they have proven it in the UCL group stage matches and La Liga matches so this will indeed be a serious threat to PSG, but if we look at the overall strength of the two teams at the moment there is almost no significant difference so it is indeed both The team still has the same chance of qualifying for the next round.

Luis Enrique built the PSG team with quite positive progress, even though at the start of the season the PSG team's performance was a little down, but now they are slowly recovering to be better, and indeed in the UCL match against the Sociedada team it will definitely be fierce because every team in the round The top 16 of the UCL are the best teams.

Real Sociedad performed quite consistently this season and not only playing well in the Champions League even in La Liga they only experienced three defeats so far and made them ranked sixth. Real Sociedad will definitely be a threat to Luis Enrique and if he underestimates the Imanol Alguacil forces then I am quite worried they will lose when facing them.

If you see the quality of the players, then I am quite sure PSG can beat Real Sociedad in the last 16, but Luis Enrique must be able to maximize the front lines because Real Sociedad defender is quite solid in defense. So it will make it difficult for PSG to score goals and also have to consider the defense line if they do not want to conceded because Real Sociedad could have threatened their defense if he was off guard.

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I agree with you, Barcelona won the last season La liga beating even stronger team's like Real Madrid to top the league, which was a good performance and to keep to that trends, there is a need to further ride on the record and performance better than the last season, but truly this season, Barcelona have not really shown any level pf consistency in their performance and in the last few matches, it has become clear that the club is struggling in this season much more than the last season when their we're able to win the league title.

Most of the time, is either they play draw game or even lose to their opponents in this season.

Not every club will be prime form every season, there are some clubs that don't have the capacity to win rather they stick to lose. The word consistency have practiced by Girona and Real Madrid this season, exclude Barcelona and Atletico Madrid who are struggling in matches. Xavi Hernandez having no change in his game pattern, he keep repeating his strategy and his opponents have noticed his formulation and they have implement strategies to stop him and his team from more games than usual. Barcelona won the league title last season but this is new season, is different and alot of actions have taken place.

It's caused by those have no capability to stay at the top but it's unlike real madrid which is always being very consistent anytime. This is also the main reason why madrid was able winning UCL three times in a row. Can you tell me which club that has also achieved madrid's achievement?
There was no club who can perform as consistent as real madrid. This club is always performing very consistent in any seasons. No doubt that rela madrid is always become the best club in the world. Manchester city has been using lots of money to build the long term squad.
Pep sees that if the club needs also to consider it for the long term as well caused by the club will never be profitable if it was only able to building the squad for short term. It's caused by the inflation and unpredictable factor can also pumping the price of players.
Barcelona may be declining so hard caused by the club has no money left. In fact, barcelona is facing financial trouble which will be giving huge impact to the performance from the club.
Im not doubting it caused by have seen recent announcement said that if barcelona is willing to sell a lot of its players. Glad to see that if it was performing worst in the future. Real madrid will have lose 1 of its competitor to get la liga.

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Talking about the match between Napoli vs Barcelona the odds for both of teams are equally same @2.55 but actually a bit hard to predict the outcomes of this match because the condition between them is not so different that at their domestic league these teams is still struggle want to return to the winning ways and their performance at champion league also not so impressive because both teams have experience to lose twice even Barcelona have to lose on 6th matches against weak team Antwerp

Both teams has been met several times at Champion league and Europa league and Barcelona records was slightly better than Napoli because they were unbeatable in the last 5 meetings but currently Barcelona have a problem with their forward lines because after Lewandowski performance was decline then Barcelona performance seems very unstable but for the first leg i am sure Napoli as a host will attempt to beat Barcelona but just like i said before with their current conditions it's hard to beat Barcelona even for this match i was start to thinking possibly will ended to draw

I still think that Barcelona is a better team overall, I am not saying it is a clear cut situation, I mean they are definitely close and I do not disagree with that, but I wouldn't really make it equal odds neither. I would make it like Barcelona is just a little bit better, like maybe 2.30 to 2.80 odds or something, that would make a lot more sense, it is a smart move for sure.

I believe Barcelona has a better squad and a better manager as well, but they do not have the chemistry that Xavi requires for this tactic to work, if the team doesn't have the perfect chemistry then the tiki taka method doesn't work at all, they do have some players showing promise, but some of them are not used to this style so having trouble.

Barcelona still looking much better than Napoli, we can see from their respective domestic leagues that Barcelona is still in the top 4 with only 2 defeated while Napoli is in 7th place with 6 defeats, we all know that the strength of the Italian League and La Liga tends to La Liga is tougher so it's likely that Barcelona will still be the favorited to beat Napoli at homed. I don't expected a draw I really hopes one of the clubs winning the match so this will be a very interesting and tense competition.

Xavi Hernandez is a more experiences coach than Walter Mazzari so I am quite sure thats Xavi can do his best for his club. Indeed, Lewandowski is not as sharps as in the previous season, but who know, Lewandowski in the Champions League will be able to created opportunities to bring Barcelona to victory and qualify for the Champions League next rounds in the Champions League.

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Quote from: mamesso on December 25, 2023, 11:27:30 PM

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I agree with you, Barcelona won the last season La liga beating even stronger team's like Real Madrid to top the league, which was a good performance and to keep to that trends, there is a need to further ride on the record and performance better than the last season, but truly this season, Barcelona have not really shown any level pf consistency in their performance and in the last few matches, it has become clear that the club is struggling in this season much more than the last season when their we're able to win the league title.

Most of the time, is either they play draw game or even lose to their opponents in this season.

This season Barcelona failed to maintain their performance like last season, even though they qualified for the round of 16 as group winners, but their performance has not satisfied everyone. Barcelona substandard performance this season has made some fans doubt the ability of the team managed by Xavi to repeat the success of last season. They were lucky to be able to qualify for the round of 16 as group winners because they would meet runners-up from other groups.

Napoli who are their opponents, are also in decline, due to not being able to maintain their performance like last season, Napoli is experiencing difficulties in Serie A and UCL. Barcelona may be able to advance to the quarter-finals after eliminating Napoli, but there is no guarantee of going to the next round if there are no major changes in their performance.

But aren't you mixing up two competitions here? Regarding La Liga, Barcelona was doing way better last season and their defense was particularly strong compared to the rest of the league. But in the Champions League they failed to advancd to the next round. Yes the group was easier this season, but they did make it and now we will see what their overall condition is. In La Liga it is not what anyone would have hoped for and I don't see a lot of potential for them to improve.

Napoli has its own set of struggles and this is what may ignite some hope within them. But Napoli is still Napoli and we will see one team that is in bad shape getting confirmed as one of the losers of this season.

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Quote from: Wiwo on December 25, 2023, 12:59:46 PM

Quote from: Fuso.hp on December 25, 2023, 12:49:49 PM

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I agree with you, Barcelona won the last season La liga beating even stronger team's like Real Madrid to top the league, which was a good performance and to keep to that trends, there is a need to further ride on the record and performance better than the last season, but truly this season, Barcelona have not really shown any level pf consistency in their performance and in the last few matches, it has become clear that the club is struggling in this season much more than the last season when their we're able to win the league title.

Most of the time, is either they play draw game or even lose to their opponents in this season.

This season Barcelona failed to maintain their performance like last season, even though they qualified for the round of 16 as group winners, but their performance has not satisfied everyone. Barcelona substandard performance this season has made some fans doubt the ability of the team managed by Xavi to repeat the success of last season. They were lucky to be able to qualify for the round of 16 as group winners because they would meet runners-up from other groups.

Napoli who are their opponents, are also in decline, due to not being able to maintain their performance like last season, Napoli is experiencing difficulties in Serie A and UCL. Barcelona may be able to advance to the quarter-finals after eliminating Napoli, but there is no guarantee of going to the next round if there are no major changes in their performance.

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