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December 27, 2023, 03:14:19 PM
It is a big concern for Barcelona that they have quality strikers in their squad but no quality defenders in their squad. I would not say that the defender is the most important position but I would say that every position on the football field is very important for the team. If the strike position from defense is strong then that team gets maximum good performance from the players. When the transfer window was open Barcelona should have focused on strengthening the defense but they didn't focus with the defense which they can now clearly see the results of. Although this season ended badly for them, they will definitely try to strengthen their team in the next season.
Not only the front line but indeed in all lines of performance the Barcelona team is currently experiencing problems when the team is not well organized then the front line which does not get a good supply of the ball will also have very difficult times, so I don't think that Barcelona has problems only on the front line but in all their lines and indeed with the current conditions it will definitely make it quite difficult for Barcelona to be able to compete in the UCL with the top European teams.

Barcelona’s current fixture in the round of 16 of the champions league might look easy for them to pass through if they at least put in some good efforts in this game which I think they will. But the problem is after this stage, can they beat the next team they’re going to meet in the quarterfinals of the Champions league? That is where the main struggle lies and the way Barcelona team is playing currently they don’t have that quality to pass through all of the teams that are present in the champions league if they happen to meet any of them. I think they should focus more of the La Liga title, it looks more promising to them to win than the champions league title now. At least if they make it to the quarterfinals they’ll earn some money for making it to that round.
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December 27, 2023, 03:09:27 PM

I think candidates and favorites are the same thing and maybe there is no difference, so when you say Barcelona are only candidates and not favorites, I think there is something strange. After all, when a team becomes a candidate then yes, at the same time the team also becomes a favorite so yes, candidate and favorite are something that cannot be separated I guess.

Also, Barcelona's decline in performance this season is a fact and not just a hoax so yes, I think Barcelona is not a candidate, and also not a favorite. Because after all, at least we can also consider that last season when Barcelona managed to win the La Liga title but yes, in reality Barcelona still failed in the Champions League and also in the Europa League.

So yes, considering that and this season Barcelona has experienced a decline in performance compared to last season, even though Barcelona has qualified for the last 16 of the Champions League this time. But yes, still, Barcelona doesn't have a good chance of going further, and that is the reality. However, if to beat Napoli, of course Barcelona can still do it and have a good chance of getting to the quarter-finals but it won't be any more than that.
Not surprisingly, Barcelona is only one candidate out of 16 other teams in the last 16 of the Champions League, but they are not the main favorites to win the title. You have to understand it well, but if it is said that the favorite and the candidate are the same then Barcelona is not the main candidate or not the main favorite. Barcelona's decline in performance only occurred in La Liga, while Barcelona improved in the Champions League with its success in qualifying for the round of 16.

This fact that must be acknowledged, of course. Because in the previous two seasons Barcelona always failed to qualify for the round of 16 and go down to the Europa League. This season is of course different because Barcelona benefited from a relatively easy group and qualified for the round of 16.

I don't think Barcelona can be considered one of the candidates to win the Champions League. I mean look at their recent performances, barely winning against weak teams, full of problems in the forward and defense. Lewandonski is out of form and not having the best times. Xavi is really struggling and is now at the 4th position of the La Liga.

Now their opponent in the Uefa Champions League is Napoli. Napoli's situation is kind of similar to Barcelona, struggling in their own league and I think they are in 7th position. The only match which is equal fighting in the Uefa Champions League playoffs is this match. Both the teams are struggling. If Napoli were performing like they were in last season, I would have said Barcelona does not stand a chance. So when it is a equal fightinh against a weakened Napoli team which is not even in the question of winning Champions League, Barcelona cannot be in the consideration to be one of the contenders of being the Champions of Champions League this season.
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December 27, 2023, 02:36:36 PM

This fact that must be acknowledged, of course. Because in the previous two seasons Barcelona always failed to qualify for the round of 16 and go down to the Europa League. This season is of course different because Barcelona benefited from a relatively easy group and qualified for the round of 16.
Either way, this season is an opportunity for Barcelona. They have a very good chance because they are faced with an easy group stage and it can be said that their current test has just begun when they will meet Napoli in the Round of 16 this time.
In terms of performance if you look at their comparison in domestic competitions even though Barcelona currently still has problems but I think Napoli has far more problems so this could be very beneficial for Barcelona only this only applies now because by looking at the schedule for the Champions League which will be held in February next year then indeed all possibilities are still very possible and we will continue to wait for how these two teams develop after the half season starts again.
I think for now in the round of 16 this is still worth saying as a big match although at this time the club that has qualified it already indicates that they are strong but compared to other matches there are only a few big matches that will occur in the round of 16 and one of them is Barcelona against Napoli.
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December 27, 2023, 02:34:26 PM
So in essence, even though Leipzig are not the favorites, it is hoped that they can give a surprise, especially when they face Real Madrid in the round of 16. I think this is very normal and it is impossible for football to always run as usual. I also hope that Leipzig can give Real Madrid a tough match and if they can win in one of the legs it will certainly be a good achievement. Playing against Real Madrid is something that most teams avoid and unfortunately Leipzig have to face them again after qualifying from the group stage.

In my opinion, the only thing we can hope for from the Real Madrid vs Leipzig fixture is a good game, nothing else. Real Madrid are already through to the quarter-finals.

I know that football can be unpredictable at times, but things like this happen mostly when the bigger team is not in very hot form. Like when Ajax trashed Madrid in the UCL. Currently, Real Madrid is very good even though they don't play convincingly, they know how to win so I see this game as an easy fixture for Madrid.
We just hope Leipzig put in their all so both legs of the fixture become very interesting.

February would be quite some time, so both of them clubs have to get themselves ready and all fixed you get me. Leipzig might be having a great season but that won't be against Real Madrid. They did well to torment Manchester City when they was faced with during the last few games of the Champions League group stage.

Real Madrid are second to Non in the Champions League, they might not get all of they want but winning Liepzig is something I'm sure they'll not snooze with.
German sides against Real Madrid in between can be tough as hell. I just recalled Wolfsburg against Real Madrid. Entertaining game but Madrid lost
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December 27, 2023, 02:26:59 PM



Yes, even though the match will be held in 6 weeks, which team has a chance of qualifying for the top 8, I see Real Madrid and Manchester City who have a bigger chance because their opponents are not too strong or are not opponents comparable to their teams.
These two teams will definitely qualify and maybe Bayern Munich and Arsenal will also do the same thing. Apart from that, I still don't have a view and maybe we have to see the results first in the first leg. The preparations of all teams must be thorough because they can make good use of the long time later.
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December 27, 2023, 02:24:48 PM



Yes, even though the match will be held in 6 weeks, which team has a chance of qualifying for the top 8, I see Real Madrid and Manchester City who have a bigger chance because their opponents are not too strong or are not opponents comparable to their teams.
No opponent should be underrated in this stage of the competition even though experience matters. Copenhagen and RB Leipzig are not as good as Manchester City, and Real Madrid, but we should know that these two teams Madrid and Man City are not in their best form this season.

There will be some surprises in the round of 16, but some teams as you said have 70% of qualifying to the round of 8. I see Bayern Munich, Inter Milan, Arsenal, Real Madrid, and Manchester City with good hope of qualifying to the next round.
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December 27, 2023, 02:12:32 PM
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It can be concluded that this season Barcelona is not in such good condition that their own performance has also declined this season. I'm not really sure that Barcelona will last long enough in the Champions League this season and I'm even starting to doubt that Barcelona will win another trophy in their own domestic league this season.
Let the doubts be yours, while the trust and confidence in Barcelona's ability to have a great season in the Champions League and La Liga belongs to the Barcelona fans. It is very unnatural if you and anyone else believes that Barcelona can win the Champions League title this season because you are not a fan, meaning that every time you talk about Barcelona there will always be negative sentiments that you will express.

I remember that no team that won the Champions League title had a smooth unbeaten run and didn't drop any points since the group stage. That's one fact in recent seasons, but I wouldn't say Barcelona have a better chance of winning the title than Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Manchester City. Barcelona is just one candidate, but they are not the favourites. Barcelona's main task now is to prepare themselves to beat Napoli in the round of 16 and this is not easy, but they have to try to get through to the quarter-finals.
I also think that Barcelona are not the first candidates for the title. Some people just think so because they finished top of the group. But it's just luck they didn't end up in Newcastle's place. Then maybe they'd be out of the European Cups altogether.
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December 27, 2023, 02:00:56 PM



Yes, even though the match will be held in 6 weeks, which team has a chance of qualifying for the top 8, I see Real Madrid and Manchester City who have a bigger chance because their opponents are not too strong or are not opponents comparable to their teams.
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December 27, 2023, 01:59:41 PM
I don't find Barcelona good enough nowadays. They are having a poorer season in the La Liga as well. Their current form there is bad and this has caused them to stay quite behind Real Madrid - Girona duo.  Sad  They made unnecessary point losses in their Champions League group as well. These all combined point out a bad look for Barcelona in general. As a result I wouldn't be confident about them against Napoli in this draw either. At least for now. Because there is still a lot of time to go until the first leg.

Xavi should figure a way out about how the team can get better than this. The team performance should be improved somehow. They are weak at defending especially.
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December 27, 2023, 01:52:43 PM
Real Madrid's current concern is their atacking line. Yes, if Leipzig manage to make their forward line helpless, then their chances of losing will be even greater. While we know that Real Madrid's attack line at this time still cannot be said to be very good so that it becomes their weak point. Leipzig could apply a strategy to take them to the penalty shootout later. And that's even better, because in a clear penalty shootout I believe it is a round where the two clubs will compete with each other.
The scenario that happens could be Leipzig to force Real Madrid to play goalless in the 2 matches they play. This is definitely a challenge for Anceloti, this season is his last with Real Madrid, so he will definitely do his best.
Even though Real Madrid currently doesn't have any dangerous attackers and Real Madrid players are also suffering from a lot of injuries. I don't think Real Madrid will be forced to play to the penalty spot. Leipzig, Carlo Ancelotti has a thousand ways to use strategy with the players he has even though there are many injured players and concerns on the front line. Ancelotti has been in the group phase and in LaLiga is now in first place.

Another example of Ancelotti's cleverness in exploiting Jude Belingham to become Real Madrid's favorite now, before there was Cristiano Ronaldo, now Jude Belingham is truly the best player in Real Madrid. Camavinga has also been used at left back several times and it has worked, and there are several other players who with Ancelotti's touch could make Real Madrid stronger.
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December 27, 2023, 01:45:35 PM
So in essence, even though Leipzig are not the favorites, it is hoped that they can give a surprise, especially when they face Real Madrid in the round of 16. I think this is very normal and it is impossible for football to always run as usual. I also hope that Leipzig can give Real Madrid a tough match and if they can win in one of the legs it will certainly be a good achievement. Playing against Real Madrid is something that most teams avoid and unfortunately Leipzig have to face them again after qualifying from the group stage.

In my opinion, the only thing we can hope for from the Real Madrid vs Leipzig fixture is a good game, nothing else. Real Madrid are already through to the quarter-finals.

I know that football can be unpredictable at times, but things like this happen mostly when the bigger team is not in very hot form. Like when Ajax trashed Madrid in the UCL. Currently, Real Madrid is very good even though they don't play convincingly, they know how to win so I see this game as an easy fixture for Madrid.
We just hope Leipzig put in their all so both legs of the fixture become very interesting.
Real Madrid's current concern is their atacking line. Yes, if Leipzig manage to make their forward line helpless, then their chances of losing will be even greater. While we know that Real Madrid's attack line at this time still cannot be said to be very good so that it becomes their weak point. Leipzig could apply a strategy to take them to the penalty shootout later. And that's even better, because in a clear penalty shootout I believe it is a round where the two clubs will compete with each other.
The scenario that happens could be Leipzig to force Real Madrid to play goalless in the 2 matches they play. This is definitely a challenge for Anceloti, this season is his last with Real Madrid, so he will definitely do his best.
Leipzig will not be able to hold down Real Madrid so that the match will end up in a drwa in both home and away. This is because Real Madrid is stronger than Leipzig even though you say that Real Madrid attack is not strong. Real Madrid is more desperate than anyone in this season champions league, because they believe that it is their turn to win it this time.

This is why they wouldn't take the match lightly since it is in the knockout stage. Ancelloti wants to make things right this time by winning the champions league before he leaves the club. Leipzig can try their best but I don't think that it will be good enough to withstand Real Madrid's pressure.
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December 27, 2023, 01:36:28 PM
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I think candidates and favorites are the same thing and maybe there is no difference, so when you say Barcelona are only candidates and not favorites, I think there is something strange. After all, when a team becomes a candidate then yes, at the same time the team also becomes a favorite so yes, candidate and favorite are something that cannot be separated I guess.

Also, Barcelona's decline in performance this season is a fact and not just a hoax so yes, I think Barcelona is not a candidate, and also not a favorite. Because after all, at least we can also consider that last season when Barcelona managed to win the La Liga title but yes, in reality Barcelona still failed in the Champions League and also in the Europa League.

So yes, considering that and this season Barcelona has experienced a decline in performance compared to last season, even though Barcelona has qualified for the last 16 of the Champions League this time. But yes, still, Barcelona doesn't have a good chance of going further, and that is the reality. However, if to beat Napoli, of course Barcelona can still do it and have a good chance of getting to the quarter-finals but it won't be any more than that.
Not surprisingly, Barcelona is only one candidate out of 16 other teams in the last 16 of the Champions League, but they are not the main favorites to win the title. You have to understand it well, but if it is said that the favorite and the candidate are the same then Barcelona is not the main candidate or not the main favorite. Barcelona's decline in performance only occurred in La Liga, while Barcelona improved in the Champions League with its success in qualifying for the round of 16.

This fact that must be acknowledged, of course. Because in the previous two seasons Barcelona always failed to qualify for the round of 16 and go down to the Europa League. This season is of course different because Barcelona benefited from a relatively easy group and qualified for the round of 16.
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December 27, 2023, 01:17:30 PM
It is a big concern for Barcelona that they have quality strikers in their squad but no quality defenders in their squad. I would not say that the defender is the most important position but I would say that every position on the football field is very important for the team. If the strike position from defense is strong then that team gets maximum good performance from the players. When the transfer window was open Barcelona should have focused on strengthening the defense but they didn't focus with the defense which they can now clearly see the results of. Although this season ended badly for them, they will definitely try to strengthen their team in the next season.
Not only the front line but indeed in all lines of performance the Barcelona team is currently experiencing problems when the team is not well organized then the front line which does not get a good supply of the ball will also have very difficult times, so I don't think that Barcelona has problems only on the front line but in all their lines and indeed with the current conditions it will definitely make it quite difficult for Barcelona to be able to compete in the UCL with the top European teams.

You are right, Barcelona's problem is not only their front line. The performance of their midfielders is also quite erratic. The performance of the front line players is poor due to insufficient support from the midfield. Also, Barcelona's defense is quite weak this season, if we compare it to the previous season. Barcelona have to concede a lot of goals due to defenders not doing well. I would say Xavi should work more on his defense now. Barcelona's overall performance is likely to improve if the defense tightens up. Xavi should also bring changes to his match strategy. Bonding between players also needs to be strengthened. I believe that Barcelona can dominate the Champions League if the understanding between the players is better.
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December 27, 2023, 01:00:39 PM
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It can be concluded that this season Barcelona is not in such good condition that their own performance has also declined this season. I'm not really sure that Barcelona will last long enough in the Champions League this season and I'm even starting to doubt that Barcelona will win another trophy in their own domestic league this season.
Let the doubts be yours, while the trust and confidence in Barcelona's ability to have a great season in the Champions League and La Liga belongs to the Barcelona fans. It is very unnatural if you and anyone else believes that Barcelona can win the Champions League title this season because you are not a fan, meaning that every time you talk about Barcelona there will always be negative sentiments that you will express.

I remember that no team that won the Champions League title had a smooth unbeaten run and didn't drop any points since the group stage. That's one fact in recent seasons, but I wouldn't say Barcelona have a better chance of winning the title than Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Manchester City. Barcelona is just one candidate, but they are not the favourites. Barcelona's main task now is to prepare themselves to beat Napoli in the round of 16 and this is not easy, but they have to try to get through to the quarter-finals.

I think candidates and favorites are the same thing and maybe there is no difference, so when you say Barcelona are only candidates and not favorites, I think there is something strange. After all, when a team becomes a candidate then yes, at the same time the team also becomes a favorite so yes, candidate and favorite are something that cannot be separated I guess.

Also, Barcelona's decline in performance this season is a fact and not just a hoax so yes, I think Barcelona is not a candidate, and also not a favorite. Because after all, at least we can also consider that last season when Barcelona managed to win the La Liga title but yes, in reality Barcelona still failed in the Champions League and also in the Europa League.

So yes, considering that and this season Barcelona has experienced a decline in performance compared to last season, even though Barcelona has qualified for the last 16 of the Champions League this time. But yes, still, Barcelona doesn't have a good chance of going further, and that is the reality. However, if to beat Napoli, of course Barcelona can still do it and have a good chance of getting to the quarter-finals but it won't be any more than that.
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December 27, 2023, 12:29:33 PM
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It can be concluded that this season Barcelona is not in such good condition that their own performance has also declined this season. I'm not really sure that Barcelona will last long enough in the Champions League this season and I'm even starting to doubt that Barcelona will win another trophy in their own domestic league this season.
Let the doubts be yours, while the trust and confidence in Barcelona's ability to have a great season in the Champions League and La Liga belongs to the Barcelona fans. It is very unnatural if you and anyone else believes that Barcelona can win the Champions League title this season because you are not a fan, meaning that every time you talk about Barcelona there will always be negative sentiments that you will express.

I remember that no team that won the Champions League title had a smooth unbeaten run and didn't drop any points since the group stage. That's one fact in recent seasons, but I wouldn't say Barcelona have a better chance of winning the title than Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Manchester City. Barcelona is just one candidate, but they are not the favourites. Barcelona's main task now is to prepare themselves to beat Napoli in the round of 16 and this is not easy, but they have to try to get through to the quarter-finals.
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December 27, 2023, 12:24:40 PM
Barcelona and Napoli both have equal performance but in terms of players Napoli has more quality players while Barcelona only has free players from the transfer market last season but in terms of experience of course Barcelona is much more experienced in the champions league but the problem is experience and quality players sometimes doesn't have a big impact because there are always surprises beyond our expectations.
I still believe that Barcelona must be able to get past the round of 16 but this will be a really, really tough job because against Napoli it is not easy, they have a scoring machine like Osimhen and have a pretty good defense.
I just hope that Barcelona can qualify in the first match against Napoli. I am sure that Barcelona can win, but if Barcelona loses in the first match, I have to accept that this club cannot qualify.
You are right in times of champions League experience between Barcelona and Napoli is obvious that Barcelona is more experience because I believe they have won the champions League up to five times while Napoli has not won the champions league up to that so is really obvious that Barcelona has more champions league experience more than Napoli but however it was quite unfortunate for them that with all the experience they have on the champions League they don't have they experience players that can take them to were they are supposed to be, so I agree with you that Barcelona is more experience while Napoli has more quality players than Barcelona.
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December 27, 2023, 12:21:36 PM
So in essence, even though Leipzig are not the favorites, it is hoped that they can give a surprise, especially when they face Real Madrid in the round of 16. I think this is very normal and it is impossible for football to always run as usual. I also hope that Leipzig can give Real Madrid a tough match and if they can win in one of the legs it will certainly be a good achievement. Playing against Real Madrid is something that most teams avoid and unfortunately Leipzig have to face them again after qualifying from the group stage.

In my opinion, the only thing we can hope for from the Real Madrid vs Leipzig fixture is a good game, nothing else. Real Madrid are already through to the quarter-finals.

I know that football can be unpredictable at times, but things like this happen mostly when the bigger team is not in very hot form. Like when Ajax trashed Madrid in the UCL. Currently, Real Madrid is very good even though they don't play convincingly, they know how to win so I see this game as an easy fixture for Madrid.
We just hope Leipzig put in their all so both legs of the fixture become very interesting.
Real Madrid's current concern is their atacking line. Yes, if Leipzig manage to make their forward line helpless, then their chances of losing will be even greater. While we know that Real Madrid's attack line at this time still cannot be said to be very good so that it becomes their weak point. Leipzig could apply a strategy to take them to the penalty shootout later. And that's even better, because in a clear penalty shootout I believe it is a round where the two clubs will compete with each other.
The scenario that happens could be Leipzig to force Real Madrid to play goalless in the 2 matches they play. This is definitely a challenge for Anceloti, this season is his last with Real Madrid, so he will definitely do his best.
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December 27, 2023, 12:21:03 PM
It is a big concern for Barcelona that they have quality strikers in their squad but no quality defenders in their squad. I would not say that the defender is the most important position but I would say that every position on the football field is very important for the team. If the strike position from defense is strong then that team gets maximum good performance from the players. When the transfer window was open Barcelona should have focused on strengthening the defense but they didn't focus with the defense which they can now clearly see the results of. Although this season ended badly for them, they will definitely try to strengthen their team in the next season.
Not only the front line but indeed in all lines of performance the Barcelona team is currently experiencing problems when the team is not well organized then the front line which does not get a good supply of the ball will also have very difficult times, so I don't think that Barcelona has problems only on the front line but in all their lines and indeed with the current conditions it will definitely make it quite difficult for Barcelona to be able to compete in the UCL with the top European teams.
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December 27, 2023, 12:16:16 PM
I'm not much positive about Barcelona's chance to eliminate Napoli honestly. Because their game is just not good enough. I believe that they haven't faced a real challenge yet. Porto were the second strongest team in the group but Barcelona won against them twice anyway. But I think Napoli are a bigger challenge than Porto for them.

Napoli have a stronger squad in the first place. They have a very dangerous player like Osimhen in their offense line. They are just trying to improve their form lately. But until this matchup I think Napoli will be in a better shape than now. If Barcelona don't make improvement at the same time then they can really say goodbye to the CL early.

But I think Barcelona was lucky during this season of the Champions League because we know they are not in their best form and this Barcelona we currently see can definitely lose games easily against other teams. While Barcelona is also not in the form to face with stronger teams, however Napoli has players like Osimhen as you just said and since Barcelona's defenders are weak this can be dangerous.
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December 27, 2023, 12:08:19 PM
But I think Barcelona was lucky during this season of the Champions League because we know they are not in their best form and this Barcelona we currently see can definitely lose games easily against other teams. While Barcelona is also not in the form to face with stronger teams, however Napoli has players like Osimhen as you just said and since Barcelona's defenders are weak this can be dangerous.
Barcelona wasn't in their good form, but it's a big joke if they're lose against Shakhtar Donetsk and Royal Antwerp because both of them are in different level. If Manchester United was in this group, I believe Manchester United will able to qualify for knockout stage.

Either Barcelona or Napoli win the match, their next match is against Arsenal which I think they would lose.

Many members of the squad are failing to meet expectations this season and it has harmed the chances of the club including the UCL. The defense is the one that suffers the most. All clubs that are matched with Barcelona can score goals.

It was a big joke when Barcelona lost to Shakhtar Donetsk and Royal Antwerp. Anyhow, it further demonstrated how disarray Barcelona is when the only winless club in La Liga caused a stir and almost pulled off an upset, but ultimately lost by 3-2. Napoli renewed its services with Osimhen, the club is also facing its own problems, but this match is almost even.
Barcelona and Napoli both have equal performance but in terms of players Napoli has more quality players while Barcelona only has free players from the transfer market last season but in terms of experience of course Barcelona is much more experienced in the champions league but the problem is experience and quality players sometimes doesn't have a big impact because there are always surprises beyond our expectations.
I still believe that Barcelona must be able to get past the round of 16 but this will be a really, really tough job because against Napoli it is not easy, they have a scoring machine like Osimhen and have a pretty good defense.
I just hope that Barcelona can qualify in the first match against Napoli. I am sure that Barcelona can win, but if Barcelona loses in the first match, I have to accept that this club cannot qualify.

Barcelona and Napoli are both clubs in a drastic decline in performance, both clubs this season have really lost their concentration on defending their defending champions in their respective leagues, talking about the experience of playing in the Champions League, both of them have their own experiences, only Barcelona  is superior to Napoli because Barcelona is always a favorite to be in the Champions League Final compared to Napoli, Barcelona even won the trophy several times, even though it was still in the Lionel Messi era, Barcelona was a favorite in the Champions League, different from this season, Barcelona is not as frequent as before.  Even though they are in the final, it is sometimes difficult for them to even qualify for the round of 16. Even though they have more experience, a decline in performance cannot be avoided for both clubs.
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