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December 21, 2023, 05:55:06 AM
I believe there might be a surprise in the PSG and Real Sociedad matchup. Most people rate Real Sociedad lower than PSG, but their form this season has been quite good. I think they are even better than PSG at the moment, not just because they dominate their group with unbeaten performances.
If you look at the statistics and analysis, it seems that both clubs are playing very well in the domestic league and it seems that their meeting will be an interesting match to watch, but as we know, maybe Sociedad doesn't seem to be a very difficult opponent for PSG because it seems that PSG can beat Sociedad with It was easy in the first meeting because they were playing at home, of course PSG had to take that opportunity to maintain the aggregate goal difference.

Mbappe still has a chance with PSG to enter the next round by beating Sociedad in the round of 16 meeting, this is an interesting meeting for PSG and Sociedad to show each other's strengths but even so Sociedad will definitely also show their best game even though PSG is still the favorite in this meeting. there are always surprises at UCL.
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December 21, 2023, 05:41:03 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.
Well, you're entitled to your opinion in terms of reasoning this way, and it means there's no need to play the game between the above-mentioned clubs, Barcelona vs. Napoli and Arsenal vs. FC Porto games.  However, sometimes we tend to think or reason in such a way and that's human for us, but that isn't always how things work when it comes to a game of football.

For instance, Since I had one terrible experience with a game, I double chanced on Metz, And that season they were at the top of the table and playing with a team close to relegation, and during the game, first half they've already beaten their visitors 2-0 and 83 minutes of the game 2-1, and the 94th minutes 2-2, waiting for the last 1 minutes to complete, and the visitors scored a 3rd goal that got them 3 points, that was an unforgettable loss of game for me because I so much believed that there's no way Metz would have lost that game, So for me, I don't use the word sure win because there's no such certainty in football and until FT,  anything can always happen.
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December 21, 2023, 05:34:02 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.
Barcelona have also been inconsistent this season, especially in the LaLiga, but mind you that every match in the CL RO16 is going to be tough, i understand that some teams are underdogs when you compare them to their oppositions, but in the two games you highlighted above, neither of those teans are underdogs, it is going to be a 50-50 game that anybody can win. Barcelona and Arsenal are very much beatable, and it would be a mistake to write off Napoli and Porto.
The Napoli we saw last season can comfortably beat the current Barcelona team, but it's quite unfortunate that the Napoli we are seeing now are just a Shadow of the last season team. This match is going to be keenly contested. Both Barcelona and Napoli are not doing very well in their respective leagues. Both Napoli and Barcelona can advance to the next round so it will be difficult to determine who will qualify.
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December 21, 2023, 05:30:27 AM

Barcelona have also been inconsistent this season, especially in the LaLiga, but mind you that every match in the CL RO16 is going to be tough, i understand that some teams are underdogs when you compare them to their oppositions, but in the two games you highlighted above, neither of those teans are underdogs, it is going to be a 50-50 game that anybody can win. Barcelona and Arsenal are very much beatable, and it would be a mistake to write off Napoli and Porto.
Napoli and Barcelona this season do not look as good as they did last season, but as we remember, Barcelona in the last Champions League could not even get out of the group, this season they were more lucky with their opponents, but now they are weaker, so compare them with Arsenal is difficult. Porto remains a dark horse, but I would still classify them as a strong middle team rather than a top club.
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December 21, 2023, 05:09:34 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.

What I think we need to pay attention is PSG vs Real Sociedad and Inter vs Atletico Madrid, I believe most people will think PSG and Inter will win since both of them were strong in the last season, but I believe this time Real Sociedad and Atletico Madrid able to prove themselves even though they're underdog.
I have a slightly different opinion than you. I think the Barca and Napoli pair is quite unpredictable; they are the reigning champions of both the Spanish and Italian leagues. Currently, the form of both Barca and Napoli is not good, but when they face each other, the result is hard to predict. Napoli's style of play remains challenging for teams from England and Spain. Therefore, it's not easy for Barca to overcome Napoli in this round.

I believe there might be a surprise in the PSG and Real Sociedad matchup. Most people rate Real Sociedad lower than PSG, but their form this season has been quite good. I think they are even better than PSG at the moment, not just because they dominate their group with unbeaten performances.
I agree with you, even though Barcelona is the favorite in the match against Napoli, this will not necessarily match expectations because Barcelona is in an unstable condition and Napoli is not an easy team and of course this will be a match that is difficult to predict because the performance of both teams is the same. the same is not very consistent in the domestic league, but even so, I hope Barcelona can win this match because in my opinion, even though Barcelona is unstable, I hope Barcelona can appear surprising in the next match even though they have to fight hard because the first match will be held at Napoli headquarters.

The match between PSG vs Real Sociedad is indeed a match that must be watched carefully because this match is very important for both of them, but even so, it looks like PSG will remain the favorite here because PSG has shown progress, especially in the domestic league, its performance is still consistent, for Real Sociedad this is This is their first time competing in the Champions League but Real Sociedad was able to qualify for the round of 16. This is a good start and now they have to fight hard against a team that has more experience competing in the Champions League.
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December 21, 2023, 05:00:06 AM
Well, in the round of 16, matches often end in surprises. We have to remember last season's round of 16. At that time, the favorite team stopped in the round of 16. And maybe this time the same thing will happen. But for the Arsenal vs Porto match, maybe I will still have confidence that Arsenal will be the winner and qualify for the next stage. But for the Barcelona vs Napoli match, I think this one is more difficult for us to predict. Even Barcelona is not as good as we think at the moment. Lewandowski even seems to have lost his sharpness this season. This 35 year old man even had difficulty scoring goals this season. So I also prefer to think that the Barcelona vs Napoli match has a 50:50 chance. Because anything can still happen. Napoli also seems to be trying to focus more on Serie A and the Champions League because they have been eliminated from the Coppa Italia.
maybe I have a slightly different opinion from you, Arsenal vs Porto, I predict that Arsenal can get past Porto and move on to the next match and for Barcelona I actually doubt that Barcelona can't beat Napoli because in the transfer market Barcelona will still be a little confused about whether to keep Felix or not. on the one hand, the financial crisis experienced by Barcelona will not be able to keep Felix, while selling Lewandowski to a saudi arabian team makes more sense to get money, but Lewandowski refuses to go to saudi arabia.
so Barcelona finances are what makes performance doubtful because the new players who will be recruited are still unclear.

different from Arsenal which has better finances and can get the talented players they want and bringing in new talented players gives quite a good increase in performance and it seems like my reasons make sense to me and as you said often the round of 16 brings surprises and surprises will come from Barcelona who may not qualify.
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December 21, 2023, 03:46:14 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.
Barcelona have also been inconsistent this season, especially in the LaLiga, but mind you that every match in the CL RO16 is going to be tough, i understand that some teams are underdogs when you compare them to their oppositions, but in the two games you highlighted above, neither of those teans are underdogs, it is going to be a 50-50 game that anybody can win. Barcelona and Arsenal are very much beatable, and it would be a mistake to write off Napoli and Porto.
Well, in the round of 16, matches often end in surprises. We have to remember last season's round of 16. At that time, the favorite team stopped in the round of 16. And maybe this time the same thing will happen. But for the Arsenal vs Porto match, maybe I will still have confidence that Arsenal will be the winner and qualify for the next stage. But for the Barcelona vs Napoli match, I think this one is more difficult for us to predict. Even Barcelona is not as good as we think at the moment. Lewandowski even seems to have lost his sharpness this season. This 35 year old man even had difficulty scoring goals this season. So I also prefer to think that the Barcelona vs Napoli match has a 50:50 chance. Because anything can still happen. Napoli also seems to be trying to focus more on Serie A and the Champions League because they have been eliminated from the Coppa Italia.
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December 21, 2023, 03:41:32 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.
Barcelona have also been inconsistent this season, especially in the LaLiga, but mind you that every match in the CL RO16 is going to be tough, i understand that some teams are underdogs when you compare them to their oppositions, but in the two games you highlighted above, neither of those teans are underdogs, it is going to be a 50-50 game that anybody can win. Barcelona and Arsenal are very much beatable, and it would be a mistake to write off Napoli and Porto.
Well, I think you have a valid opinion on this and I think that Napoli and Porto have the same chance of overthrowing the superior team that is their opponent. Barcelona has had quite a hard time lately in the domestic league and they are still struggling to get back into the competition for the domestic league title. Usually the results obtained in the domestic league will also reflect their performance in the Champions League competition and that is why currently Barcelona may not be able to completely become the leading team against Napoli. In fact, this is the first time Barcelona has reached the last 16 after two seasons ago they dropped to the European league after failing to qualify in the group stage.

Arsenal may be very strong in the domestic league but this is also the first time they have qualified for the round of 16 after a long hiatus. Of course, they will also adapt and will not necessarily be assured of the victory that has been assigned to them. Porto is a tough opponent to beat, especially since they won the 2004 edition of the Champions League and Arsenal have never won the Champions League title. So yes, everything is equal in every way and this will be an exciting match.
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December 21, 2023, 03:33:20 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.
Barcelona have also been inconsistent this season, especially in the LaLiga, but mind you that every match in the CL RO16 is going to be tough, i understand that some teams are underdogs when you compare them to their oppositions, but in the two games you highlighted above, neither of those teans are underdogs, it is going to be a 50-50 game that anybody can win. Barcelona and Arsenal are very much beatable, and it would be a mistake to write off Napoli and Porto.
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December 21, 2023, 03:18:50 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.
Arsenal has been inconsistent in the past, which is why there is uncertainty surrounding their ability to defeat Porto. These clubs are equal and it makes sense to talk about them. Additionally, I am concerned about the financial condition of Barcelona because it will have a significant impact on the club's performance.
Barcelona has confirmed to sell some players.

What I think we need to pay attention is PSG vs Real Sociedad and Inter vs Atletico Madrid, I believe most people will think PSG and Inter will win since both of them were strong in the last season, but I believe this time Real Sociedad and Atletico Madrid able to prove themselves even though they're underdog.
Sociedad was as strong as inter. Since last season, Atletico Madrid has opted for minimal changes to its lineup. It seems you are going all in la liga teams right now. I would pick intermilan over atletico madrid.
Im still questioning the performance from sociedad against french club. PSG was strong enough and i think psg has bigger chance to win gainst sociedad.
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December 21, 2023, 02:10:49 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.

C'mon bro, you're not new to football. You can't really believe a sure win is possible in a competition like this. This is the champions league where anything is possible. We've seen giants of the game get knocked out my unexpected teams.
I can partially agree with Arsenal definitely knocking out Porto because Arsenal is in a good form and Porto are really bad currently, but Barcelona and Napoli are on equal form if you look at it more closely. Barcelona have been horrible, probably worst than Napoli who have also been bad. So saying it's a sure win for Barcelona is not true to me. Barcelona has a upper hand, but ist not a sure win.

You must also remember that they matches would be player in February next year, that relatively a long time from now. Teams can loose form or gain from during this period. Players can get injured and coaches can be changed and make the team better within this period.
Barcelona and Arsenal are favorites, but you can't be a hundred percent certain that they'll win.
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December 21, 2023, 01:41:36 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.

What I think we need to pay attention is PSG vs Real Sociedad and Inter vs Atletico Madrid, I believe most people will think PSG and Inter will win since both of them were strong in the last season, but I believe this time Real Sociedad and Atletico Madrid able to prove themselves even though they're underdog.
I have a slightly different opinion than you. I think the Barca and Napoli pair is quite unpredictable; they are the reigning champions of both the Spanish and Italian leagues. Currently, the form of both Barca and Napoli is not good, but when they face each other, the result is hard to predict. Napoli's style of play remains challenging for teams from England and Spain. Therefore, it's not easy for Barca to overcome Napoli in this round.

I believe there might be a surprise in the PSG and Real Sociedad matchup. Most people rate Real Sociedad lower than PSG, but their form this season has been quite good. I think they are even better than PSG at the moment, not just because they dominate their group with unbeaten performances.
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December 21, 2023, 01:24:05 AM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.

What I think we need to pay attention is PSG vs Real Sociedad and Inter vs Atletico Madrid, I believe most people will think PSG and Inter will win since both of them were strong in the last season, but I believe this time Real Sociedad and Atletico Madrid able to prove themselves even though they're underdog.
How can you call Athletico Madrid under dog,do you know what they are capable of doing? I even think they can surprise  Inter Milan because they are doing an incredible work this season,they are not far behind in the Lalliga table,and with their performances this season,you can't underrate them like that.
I know Milan are ontop of their league table,and with what they did last season has given them the confidence to press more this season, couple with the ability and confidence to progress to the next stage of the competition,but facing Athletico Madrid is really a hard nut to crack,and they must be ready to fight it hard if they are to ever win in this encounter,else, Athletico will surprise them.
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December 20, 2023, 10:39:44 PM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.
Surely win for Barcelona and Arsenal, seriously Despairo?

I agree that Napoli and Porto are worse than themselves in the last season but are Barcelona and Arsenal are the same as they were in the past season or are they better?

Both Barcelona and Arsenal are not better than themselves one season ago and Barcelona are even worse. Porto is very experienced in Champions League and you have to know in the last season, they went to quarter finals before lost to Inter Milan. Arsenal lost to another Portuguese club, Sporting Lisbon in Europa League, even at their home stadium.

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What I think we need to pay attention is PSG vs Real Sociedad and Inter vs Atletico Madrid, I believe most people will think PSG and Inter will win since both of them were strong in the last season, but I believe this time Real Sociedad and Atletico Madrid able to prove themselves even though they're underdog.
PSG seems to get a very lucky draw for this round with risk of meeting many big clubs because of their second position in their group. Inter Milan are at same quality level as Atletico Madrid and even they were a runner-up in the past season, this pair is unpredictable for a winner.
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December 20, 2023, 10:26:14 PM
I think there's no need to discuss about Barcelona vs Napoli and Arsenal vs FC Porto, it's a sure win for both Barcelona and Arsenal, Napoli and FC Porto aren't that good compared to last season.

What I think we need to pay attention is PSG vs Real Sociedad and Inter vs Atletico Madrid, I believe most people will think PSG and Inter will win since both of them were strong in the last season, but I believe this time Real Sociedad and Atletico Madrid able to prove themselves even though they're underdog.
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December 20, 2023, 10:04:05 PM
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It seems like Arsenal have a favourable matchup for themselves to reach the quarter finals. I mean I don't think Porto are good enough to eliminate Arsenal in the Champions League. Porto lost both of their games against Barcelona in the group stage for example. I think Barcelona are even playing worse than Arsenal these days.

Considering that Arsenal should be able to get past them easily. Maybe Porto can defend them stronger home and they might get a draw as well. But at Emirates I would just expect Arsenal to destroy them by a gap of a few goals.  Smiley
I don't have any fear about that game between Arsenal and Porto because, Arsenal are capable to win that game to qualify for quarter finals and they are ready to challenge any team that will face them in the quarter finals and they will surely get victory from them to qualify for UEFA champions league final. Porto don't have a talented players like the talented players Arsenal coach signed in this summer and, they have showed some good results to the whole world that will make them to beat Porto 4:1 for the favour of Arsenal to carry more boldness in their remaining games.

If you see Arsenal results in many competitions this season, you will know that Porto will not be allow to use home advantage to draw this game with Arsenal because their coach is a type of person that know how to use another strong player to replace the one that is weak in the field to ensure his team succeed at the end.
FC Porto is not that good to beat Arsenal and reach the quarter-final of the Uefa Champions League this season. The game will be a little bit tough for Arsenal, but Arsenal will use home advantage to beat FC Porto and reach the quarter-final of the Uefa Champions League.
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December 20, 2023, 09:48:04 PM
Ancelotti is a great manager and from the look of things, he is so confident of his squad this season than that of the last season. If this squad was the one that faced Manchester City last season, they wouldn't have been humiliated. This is because there are alot of energy and toughness in the club compared to last season.

What I have discovered about the Real Madrid of today is that almost all the players are becoming utility players, which means they can play in any position in order to help the club success. That is a good fighting spirit.
I am not entirely sure about that part. They do lack a striker, last season they had Benzema, but at the same time they have Jude who proved to be a great player. I would say they are at around equal levels compared to last season, they are not really that much better or worse. If City played like they did last season then they would have won again, they played a wonderful game against Real Madrid and got an easy win.

However, this season City is not that great neither, ever since they lost KDB they are not that great, and that's understandable because KDB is a great player and that's why it takes time for everyone to get used to it, the whole team is trying to figure out a way to be great without KDB passing like he always does.
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December 20, 2023, 07:01:09 PM
I'm not very comfortable with Barcelona about their draw honestly. Napoli are going to be a really big challenge for them. Because Osimhen is having his usual form back again after getting rid of a bad injury. I expect a much more effective performance from Napoli in the attacking area. I'm just wondering how Mazzarri will deal with the team from now on. Napoli made an early change about their manager so let's see how good they will be until the Champions League matches.

I think theres really no need to be worried as a fan, either fan for napoli or a barcelona fan.
Why? because between Napoli and Barcelona; there are no differences; both teams are struggling with injury and form and have inconsistent seasons too. While Napoli is struggling to retain the league in serie a as defending champions; Barcelona are struggling to do the same too

The champions league tie is open, any of the teams can win
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December 20, 2023, 06:56:39 PM
I'm not very comfortable with Barcelona about their draw honestly. Napoli are going to be a really big challenge for them.
Absolutely; it is a 50-50 game because there are no favorites in this match and it can go anyway. Barcelona finished top of their group, so they would be gutted to have drawn a strong opposition in Napoli, but good thing for them is that they get to play the second leg at home. Xavi was unsuccessful in taking his team out of the CL group stages last season, but now they have broken that barrier and they can take that as a success; now the goal is to take it a step further. I know there is currently no chance of Barca winning the CL this season, but if they can make it to the QF, then it is a step forward for the club considering their present situation.
If Barcelona is really determined to make a strong wave in this season's Champions League. I do not think that Napoli will be a very big of a problem to them. This is because the Napoli of last season is not the same as the Napoli we have this season. They have dropped inform since after their last season coach left them. So Barcelona has a very big chance to handle Napoli.

But they should not feel relaxed in the match because Napoli still has someone like Victor who can make a wonderful goal or an assist within a twinkle of an eye. But considering that Barcelona under Xavi has been having a terrible experience in the champions league even when they are in better form, I will not be surprised if they are eliminated now they aren't in strong form.
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December 20, 2023, 06:54:50 PM
I'm not very comfortable with Barcelona about their draw honestly. Napoli are going to be a really big challenge for them. Because Osimhen is having his usual form back again after getting rid of a bad injury. I expect a much more effective performance from Napoli in the attacking area.
Serie a club has always become the obstacles for barcelona since the previous seasons. People are still remember it correctly when barcelona kicked by intermilan from the group stage last season. I think that napoli will be repeating it against barcelona.
I don't know what but the gameplay of barcelona was not effective once it was facing the serie a club. Some things need to be changed. Barcelona can't really stick to use the same strategy anytime.
Xavi needs to open his mindset about the modern football strategy. Im not feeling confidence with barcelona this time. Im guessing barcelona probably lose in the first leg.

I'm just wondering how Mazzarri will deal with the team from now on. Napoli made an early change about their manager so let's see how good they will be until the Champions League matches.

Mazzarri needs to learn from the previous matches of barcelona. Im guessing him will told his team to fully defensive once it will be playing away and offensively once it will be playing at home. I remind you that if napoli was able making real madrid struggle.
People knew that how strong madrid is. Napoli needs to find its best again. This club may be relying upon osimhen and kvarat as its winger. Let's wait what kind of strategy is being prepared by napoli to beat barcelona.
I would like to see napoli to go to the next stage rather than barcelona. Xavi may be missing some players as well caused by barcelona put all of them for sale to raise money to pay the debts.
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