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Mate, I know Paris Saint-German has all it takes to beat any club in the Uefa Champions League, but I want to say that this present PSG team does not have the capability to beat any club In the Uefa Champions League. Real Madrid is one of the favorite clubs that can win this Uefa Champions League trophy this season.

Who has a better chance of winning the UCL trophy this season? Favorite clubs are chosen by professional gamblers based on an analysis of their performance. You want to know why the performances and statistics of Real Madrid and Paris Saint-Germain differ? PSG is exceedingly incompatible when it comes to anticipating in major tournaments, whereas Real Madrid has the likes of experience and good form. Winning the UEFA Champions League becomes easy for Los Blancos because they have been there many times before, with nothing new for them to witness other than a change in their squad.

PSG does have squad depth that is very reliable. But PSG's mentality is actually not as good as Real Madrid. In the UCL, more things are needed to be used as a reference for favoring a team. Because we have seen several clubs with squads that are actually good but they still fail to get past the group stage. PSG always manages to get through the group stage. And this season it's the same. It's just that this season we can see that PSG is having difficulty qualifying from the group stage. But fortunately in the end PSG succeeded. But I also don't think that PSG will succeed in going further than the round of 16. But actually I hope PSG can play better in the UCL this time. Because I actually want to see Mbappe play at a higher level in the UCL. And it's a shame that PSG always fails to reach the highest peak in the UCL. And I think seeing how PSG is this season also still makes me doubt them. So I also prefer Real Madrid as a favorite compared to PSG. But because I am an Italian football lover, I still support Napoli and Inter Milan.

I agree that Paris Saint-German has a good squad depth but the PSG squad is not performing well this season, even in their League, PSG still finds it difficult to win matches. I wish PSG was in a better position to win this year's Uefa Champions League because they have spent a lot of money so that they can win the Uefa Champions League.

Compared to the last few seasons, PSG's squad this season is relatively weak. World best players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe were in PSG squad. But they did not have an experienced coach. So we haven't seen a better performance from PSG in the Champions League. PSG have an experienced coach this season, but their squad has been somewhat weakened. If PSG had got a coach like Luis Enrique in the previous two seasons, maybe we would have seen PSG in the Champions League final.

PSG's performance has been erratic. The Champions League is very competitive. Champions League title is not possible if performance is erratic. I'd say PSG will probably qualify for the semi-finals. Their overall performance needs to improve further if they want to win the Champions League title

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Mate, I know Paris Saint-German has all it takes to beat any club in the Uefa Champions League, but I want to say that this present PSG team does not have the capability to beat any club In the Uefa Champions League. Real Madrid is one of the favorite clubs that can win this Uefa Champions League trophy this season.

Who has a better chance of winning the UCL trophy this season? Favorite clubs are chosen by professional gamblers based on an analysis of their performance. You want to know why the performances and statistics of Real Madrid and Paris Saint-Germain differ? PSG is exceedingly incompatible when it comes to anticipating in major tournaments, whereas Real Madrid has the likes of experience and good form. Winning the UEFA Champions League becomes easy for Los Blancos because they have been there many times before, with nothing new for them to witness other than a change in their squad.

PSG does have squad depth that is very reliable. But PSG's mentality is actually not as good as Real Madrid. In the UCL, more things are needed to be used as a reference for favoring a team. Because we have seen several clubs with squads that are actually good but they still fail to get past the group stage. PSG always manages to get through the group stage. And this season it's the same. It's just that this season we can see that PSG is having difficulty qualifying from the group stage. But fortunately in the end PSG succeeded. But I also don't think that PSG will succeed in going further than the round of 16. But actually I hope PSG can play better in the UCL this time. Because I actually want to see Mbappe play at a higher level in the UCL. And it's a shame that PSG always fails to reach the highest peak in the UCL. And I think seeing how PSG is this season also still makes me doubt them. So I also prefer Real Madrid as a favorite compared to PSG. But because I am an Italian football lover, I still support Napoli and Inter Milan.

I agree that Paris Saint-German has a good squad depth but the PSG squad is not performing well this season, even in their League, PSG still finds it difficult to win matches. I wish PSG was in a better position to win this year's Uefa Champions League because they have spent a lot of money so that they can win the Uefa Champions League.

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Mate, I know Paris Saint-German has all it takes to beat any club in the Uefa Champions League, but I want to say that this present PSG team does not have the capability to beat any club In the Uefa Champions League. Real Madrid is one of the favorite clubs that can win this Uefa Champions League trophy this season.

Who has a better chance of winning the UCL trophy this season? Favorite clubs are chosen by professional gamblers based on an analysis of their performance. You want to know why the performances and statistics of Real Madrid and Paris Saint-Germain differ? PSG is exceedingly incompatible when it comes to anticipating in major tournaments, whereas Real Madrid has the likes of experience and good form. Winning the UEFA Champions League becomes easy for Los Blancos because they have been there many times before, with nothing new for them to witness other than a change in their squad.

PSG does have squad depth that is very reliable. But PSG's mentality is actually not as good as Real Madrid. In the UCL, more things are needed to be used as a reference for favoring a team. Because we have seen several clubs with squads that are actually good but they still fail to get past the group stage. PSG always manages to get through the group stage. And this season it's the same. It's just that this season we can see that PSG is having difficulty qualifying from the group stage. But fortunately in the end PSG succeeded. But I also don't think that PSG will succeed in going further than the round of 16. But actually I hope PSG can play better in the UCL this time. Because I actually want to see Mbappe play at a higher level in the UCL. And it's a shame that PSG always fails to reach the highest peak in the UCL. And I think seeing how PSG is this season also still makes me doubt them. So I also prefer Real Madrid as a favorite compared to PSG. But because I am an Italian football lover, I still support Napoli and Inter Milan.

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Mate, I know Paris Saint-German has all it takes to beat any club in the Uefa Champions League, but I want to say that this present PSG team does not have the capability to beat any club In the Uefa Champions League. Real Madrid is one of the favorite clubs that can win this Uefa Champions League trophy this season.

Isn't your first sentence a contradiction to itself? You know they have all it takes, but they don't have the capability...

Anyway, I think of all the top teams we know in Europe, PSG would be the one that is least likely to win the Champions League. I would put them far behind Inter Milan. The problem is that their rank in Ligue 1 can be misleading because it looks all wonderful when they are leading the table, but what is it worth when you play against Manchester City? Beating Lens or Nice can't be compared to playing against Manchester City. That is why it's often difficult to tell where PSG is at and I believe the games in the Champions League group have shown that PSG is not on top of things all the time. The defeat against Newcastle, the close games against Dortmund.

I agree with you that PSG doesn't really have a big chance of winning the UCL title because maybe this round of 16 will be the end of their struggle in the UCL competition. If they can continue to win and qualify for the top 8 then that will be great achievement.
There are many strong and great teams in the round of 16, they are even much better in terms of ability or strength when compared to PSG, especially if they really lose their mainstay players then it is clear that the chance of getting close to UCL title feels impossible.
Moreover, even in perfect conditions for the group phase, PSG cannot dominate and cannot lead in group F, Dortmund, which is team in declining condition, can be much better especially with other team that are even greater later.

There are three team that are felt to be the strongest candidates for the UCL title, even though they are not that good in the Domestic League, but focusing on the UCL during this group phase has really produced amazing results.
They are Manchester City, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, these three team for their respective Domestic Leagues are still behind and cannot yet occupy first place but for the UCL they are out of bounds.
If they have to compete with these three, I sure PSG will only go home faster.

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Quote from: Mayor of ogba on December 15, 2023, 08:14:14 PM

Mate, I know Paris Saint-German has all it takes to beat any club in the Uefa Champions League, but I want to say that this present PSG team does not have the capability to beat any club In the Uefa Champions League. Real Madrid is one of the favorite clubs that can win this Uefa Champions League trophy this season.

Who has a better chance of winning the UCL trophy this season? Favorite clubs are chosen by professional gamblers based on an analysis of their performance. You want to know why the performances and statistics of Real Madrid and Paris Saint-Germain differ? PSG is exceedingly incompatible when it comes to anticipating in major tournaments, whereas Real Madrid has the likes of experience and good form. Winning the UEFA Champions League becomes easy for Los Blancos because they have been there many times before, with nothing new for them to witness other than a change in their squad.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 15, 2023, 07:57:59 PM

The following is the income of each team in the 23/24 Champions League group stage and as can be seen, Real Madrid and Manchester City dominate the income figures. The two championship candidate teams received 42 million euros for successfully advancing to the round of 16 with 6 complete wins. On the other hand, Barcelona also received enough fresh funds of 32 million euros which they will definitely use to spend on players in January.

But not only Barcelona but other teams also seem to be doing the same thing and it depends on the management to arrange it. Apart from that, teams that do not qualify will still receive an injection of funds, even though the amount is not that large. That's why the Champions League is always a target for big teams in Europe to compete every season because the income from the group stages alone is quite tempting.

No doubt that allegri said that if getting UCL spot means getting a trophy. Even those clubs were getting very high income only through qualifying for the knock out stage. I can't even believe if it real madrid and bayern were getting highest of income from UCL.
I can understand that why majority of small clubs were also seeing the income from UCL as very high income. That chart has proven that if it was giving very big amounts of money.

Any teams in the various league was aiming to get more money through participating in the UCL. UCL is very very valuable competition for any football teams in european continent. Im thinking about missing this competition by failed to qualify for the top 16 is very bad.
MU and newcatle have become the big teams that were missing it. It's very disappointment for all of clubs that were out from the league caused by it's very important for all of them to get more money.

Im thinking about it will be a disaster if the club was missing an opportunity in UCL. it's caused by the money can be used to strengthen the club as well. MU and newcastle performed so poorly this season.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 15, 2023, 07:57:59 PM

The following is the income of each team in the 23/24 Champions League group stage and as can be seen, Real Madrid and Manchester City dominate the income figures. The two championship candidate teams received 42 million euros for successfully advancing to the round of 16 with 6 complete wins. On the other hand, Barcelona also received enough fresh funds of 32 million euros which they will definitely use to spend on players in January.

But not only Barcelona but other teams also seem to be doing the same thing and it depends on the management to arrange it. Apart from that, teams that do not qualify will still receive an injection of funds, even though the amount is not that large. That's why the Champions League is always a target for big teams in Europe to compete every season because the income from the group stages alone is quite tempting.

The income from this group phase is very large for small clubs and also clubs that are having financial problems such as Sevilla who are reportedly having problems so that it is really affecting their performance, unfortunately, they failed to get third place in the group phase to be able to continue their journey in the European league to be able to increase income for their club because of course it will be useful for buying players later.
From the income list, it shows that rich teams will get richer and strengthen their financial capabilities to be able to buy players in the transfer market later and because these teams are still continuing to the next round, the more money they can earn, but for popular teams like Real Madrid, Manchester City, Barcelona and several others, of course the income from the Champions League is only part of it because they have other sources of income so they are always able to spend a lot in the transfer market.

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I don't see Paris Saint-German as a club that will win the Uefa Champions League trophy this season because PSG struggled to reach the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I see PSG as a club that will be knocked out of the Uefa Champions League when they play the round of 16.

Although PSG seems not as strong as Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, or Man City but they are not impossible to reach the final round and even win the UCL trophy. Sure, PSG got difficulty in the group F, they didn't seem like a favorite team to win UCL. However, UCL often brings surprises, smaller team doesn't always mean to be defeated in the knock-out round. You can't claim PSG will be eliminated soon in the round of 16. PSG isn't a bad team, dude. They have capability to beat any team in UCL this season if they can play solidly as a team.

Mate, I know Paris Saint-German has all it takes to beat any club in the Uefa Champions League, but I want to say that this present PSG team does not have the capability to beat any club In the Uefa Champions League. Real Madrid is one of the favorite clubs that can win this Uefa Champions League trophy this season.

Isn't your first sentence a contradiction to itself? You know they have all it takes, but they don't have the capability...

Anyway, I think of all the top teams we know in Europe, PSG would be the one that is least likely to win the Champions League. I would put them far behind Inter Milan. The problem is that their rank in Ligue 1 can be misleading because it looks all wonderful when they are leading the table, but what is it worth when you play against Manchester City? Beating Lens or Nice can't be compared to playing against Manchester City. That is why it's often difficult to tell where PSG is at and I believe the games in the Champions League group have shown that PSG is not on top of things all the time. The defeat against Newcastle, the close games against Dortmund.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on December 15, 2023, 05:56:50 PM

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I don't see Paris Saint-German as a club that will win the Uefa Champions League trophy this season because PSG struggled to reach the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I see PSG as a club that will be knocked out of the Uefa Champions League when they play the round of 16.

Although PSG seems not as strong as Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, or Man City but they are not impossible to reach the final round and even win the UCL trophy. Sure, PSG got difficulty in the group F, they didn't seem like a favorite team to win UCL. However, UCL often brings surprises, smaller team doesn't always mean to be defeated in the knock-out round. You can't claim PSG will be eliminated soon in the round of 16. PSG isn't a bad team, dude. They have capability to beat any team in UCL this season if they can play solidly as a team.

Mate, I know Paris Saint-German has all it takes to beat any club in the Uefa Champions League, but I want to say that this present PSG team does not have the capability to beat any club In the Uefa Champions League. Real Madrid is one of the favorite clubs that can win this Uefa Champions League trophy this season.

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The following is the income of each team in the 23/24 Champions League group stage and as can be seen, Real Madrid and Manchester City dominate the income figures. The two championship candidate teams received 42 million euros for successfully advancing to the round of 16 with 6 complete wins. On the other hand, Barcelona also received enough fresh funds of 32 million euros which they will definitely use to spend on players in January.

But not only Barcelona but other teams also seem to be doing the same thing and it depends on the management to arrange it. Apart from that, teams that do not qualify will still receive an injection of funds, even though the amount is not that large. That's why the Champions League is always a target for big teams in Europe to compete every season because the income from the group stages alone is quite tempting.

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Manchester United seems to have definitely understood the current situation and it would be very naive if there was no action on this so I think sooner or later Ten Hag's position in the coach will not be safe at this time even though previously many Manchester United officials and legends still continued to support Ten Hag as coach but now it seems that this will be very different in terms of the results received by Manchester United at this time.

According to some German media, they are already looking for a new coach and I can completely understand that. It was clear from the start that they wouldn't be able to beat Bayern in this game and it was clear to me that a new coach would come after the disaster in the CL. In the meantime it is definitely the best decision for the team.

MU has got a new candidate to be a new coach and it was graham potter, he was former chelsea coach last season. Manchester united was not UCL level. It was far below from it. Even copenhagen played better than manchester united itself.
The only problem if the new candidate to be a coach for MU was not experienced coach. He was a flop in chelsea last season with very low win rate. Im wondering what reason why he has been linked to the manchester united.

Waiting for the match between arsenal vs intermilan/PSG. Arsenal must not be lucky enough if the club is going to face a big club that is being placed in the pot2.
Real madrid is the strongest from the pot 1.

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Quote from: marcous on December 15, 2023, 03:41:03 PM

Seeing PSG ambition to win the UCL trophy, I was reminded of Chelsea history under Abramovich ownership. Not a little money has been poured out in the transfer market, quite a lot of star players have come and gone, and we have seen several managers fired because they always failed to realize the dream of the club owner, namely bringing home the UCL trophy. But in the end they managed to achieve it after being patient for a long time, Di Matteo became interim coach at that time.

Coaches doesn't matter, when a club is ready to win matches, there's absolutely no stopping. Let me points out this straight, UCL title defines your existence either you're improving or degrading in football. Then and now are both different periods in football, the game is consider difficult presently but easy back then. Paris Saint Germain are capable of winning the UEFA Champions League title this season, I keep saying this. Don't ever underrate any club, and every team have their own moments of smiling and lifting major titles this season.

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In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag may be one of the worst coaches to ever come to Manchester United. I still don't understand how he can be in charge of the team. Don't they see that they were defeated at Old Trafford in their UCL group and finished last in the group? The money spent on transfers is very high and these inefficient players are purchased or the player cannot be productive. In this situation, I am surprised to see that he is still in charge of the team.

The team can’t just give judgement on sacking him all of a sudden without any prior notice or warning. I just have a strong feeling that even if Eric Ten Hag is underperforming and not winning matches for his team, he will be left in the club till the end of the season before they will want to change him. Every manager has a trying times when there will be so many pressure on them and this is what Eric Ten Hag is passing through now. The ability of the manager to manage the team out of the trying times do signify how good a Manager is and will make a meaningful impact when signed.

I agree with you that Erik Ten Hag will stay with Manchester United until the end of the season, the current problem does not come from Ten Hag there are also other factors such as mass injuries so he finds it difficult to place players and implement strategies, this reason makes sense because last season Ten Hag succeeded in bringing Manchester United to finish in 3rd place. In my opinion, Ten Hag's only mistake was when bringing in players which was not optimal which also impacts their performance in the Champions League. It must be admitted that this is the worst season for Manchester United in the Champions League only collected 4 points from 6 matches and finished in 4th place in the group lol. But honestly, after leaving the Champions League they can focus more on local competitions without having to divide their concentration on the Champions League.

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From what we can see Manchester United is not in a difficult group in the Champions League but they failed to do well so it is quite appropriate that their strength is still not strong at European level because they are still unable to compete with Copenhagen and Galatasaray. I think this failure should be a valuable lesson for them to improve again in the winter transfer window because after being eliminated from the Champions League, Manchester United must focus their energy only on the Premier League.

So Erik Ten Hag can use the January transfer window to improve their weaknesses by recruiting new players. Yes, after the failure in the Champions League, Erik position is increasingly insecure and he must be able to restore the full trust of Manchester United officials by winning every match in the Premier League and being able to return to the top 4 ranking.

The inability to progress from group stage is a proof that Manchester United need to evaluate totally. This setback is a big reason for introspection and strategic planning. But I dont think utilizing the winter transfer window to strengthen the squad could be the best solution. Erik Ten Hag, facing an increasingly insecure position, must indeed demonstrate his managerial acumen and ability to react to a big failure. He can't keep using transfer window to solve the problme as they have already spent too much, but they still have no improvement.

It's time to focus energy on rebulding while concentrating on Premier League. The domestic league provides a platform for Manchester United to regain momentum and assess everything needed. Erik Ten Hag, for the last chance, need to show his ability to navigate the challenges, instill confidence in the squad, and gain positive results in the Premier League that will play a pivotal cause in restoring the trust of Manchester United officials and fans. Erik Ten Hag's leadership and decisions in this period will be crucial for the team's resurgence.

Erik Ten Hag needs to revive his players enthusiasm because failure in the Champions League could have a bad impact on their mentality. Erik must be able to maximize the strength of the existing squad to support their performance in the second half of the season and a slight change in strategy will succeed in bringing them back to their winning track. In the previous match we saw how Manchester United played quite badly when they faced Bournemouth where they were not able to adapt their game as well as possible when they had the opportunity.

I agree with what you say because this failure was Erik mistake in setting strategy and he had difficulty scapegoating his players. There are many upcoming matches that they can make the most of to change their performance in the Premier League so a big evaluation must be immediately thought about after their elimination from the Champions League. Tomorrow's match will be quite difficult for them because Liverpool is a team that is quite strong lately and it is very likely that Manchester United will need time to come back to winning ways.

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Drawing round of 16 will be held this monday and there will be a two categorized that the teams who able to being an group champion will be into pot 1 and the teams who only finish at second place will be into pot 2 and here is the taams below based on the pot

Pot 1
Bayern Munich, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Real Sociedad, Atletico Madrid, Borussia Dortmund, Manchester City, and Barcelona

Pot2
Copenhagen, PSV Eindhoven, Napoli, Inter Milan, Lazio, Paris Saint-Germain (PSG), RB Leipzig, and FC Porto

With these categorized there are possibilities we will see the potention of big matches at round of 16 and because PSG only able to finish at second place then they have possibilities to met strong teams just like Bayern Munich or Real Madrid even so with Inter Milan that as the finalist of last season unfortunately they only can occupy second place under Sociedad and this make their current status as underdog and Inter Milan also has a potention to met strong teams just like Manchester City or Barcelona so this is very interesting to know

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Quote from: Mayor of ogba on December 15, 2023, 02:39:10 PM

I don't see Paris Saint-German as a club that will win the Uefa Champions League trophy this season because PSG struggled to reach the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League. I see PSG as a club that will be knocked out of the Uefa Champions League when they play the round of 16.

Although PSG seems not as strong as Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, or Man City but they are not impossible to reach the final round and even win the UCL trophy. Sure, PSG got difficulty in the group F, they didn't seem like a favorite team to win UCL. However, UCL often brings surprises, smaller team doesn't always mean to be defeated in the knock-out round. You can't claim PSG will be eliminated soon in the round of 16. PSG isn't a bad team, dude. They have capability to beat any team in UCL this season if they can play solidly as a team.

Quote from: ShowOff on December 15, 2023, 02:54:23 PM

Until tomorrow and beyond, money doesn't guarantee everything is fine for the club. PSG has spent a lot of money to win the Champions League title, yet they still failed despite reaching the final a few seasons ago. Manchester United needed big changes including getting the club acquired by new investors, but that still failed when the Glazer family still refused to do so.

Money cannot buy everything. PSG or Man United may sign star players but they can't buy the teamwork or winning mentality. This things are just made by playing as a solid team, this is missing from them. If they want to win a trophy or a title, they must know how to play as a team. If they just focus on individual skills, they will never achieve a prestigious title like UCL trophy.

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Quote from: ginsan on December 15, 2023, 05:22:36 PM

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From what we can see Manchester United is not in a difficult group in the Champions League but they failed to do well so it is quite appropriate that their strength is still not strong at European level because they are still unable to compete with Copenhagen and Galatasaray. I think this failure should be a valuable lesson for them to improve again in the winter transfer window because after being eliminated from the Champions League, Manchester United must focus their energy only on the Premier League.

So Erik Ten Hag can use the January transfer window to improve their weaknesses by recruiting new players. Yes, after the failure in the Champions League, Erik position is increasingly insecure and he must be able to restore the full trust of Manchester United officials by winning every match in the Premier League and being able to return to the top 4 ranking.

The inability to progress from group stage is a proof that Manchester United need to evaluate totally. This setback is a big reason for introspection and strategic planning. But I dont think utilizing the winter transfer window to strengthen the squad could be the best solution. Erik Ten Hag, facing an increasingly insecure position, must indeed demonstrate his managerial acumen and ability to react to a big failure. He can't keep using transfer window to solve the problme as they have already spent too much, but they still have no improvement.

It's time to focus energy on rebulding while concentrating on Premier League. The domestic league provides a platform for Manchester United to regain momentum and assess everything needed. Erik Ten Hag, for the last chance, need to show his ability to navigate the challenges, instill confidence in the squad, and gain positive results in the Premier League that will play a pivotal cause in restoring the trust of Manchester United officials and fans. Erik Ten Hag's leadership and decisions in this period will be crucial for the team's resurgence.

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Quote from: Hvdv on December 15, 2023, 02:03:45 PM

In my opinion, Erik Ten Hag may be one of the worst coaches to ever come to Manchester United. I still don't understand how he can be in charge of the team. Don't they see that they were defeated at Old Trafford in their UCL group and finished last in the group? The money spent on transfers is very high and these inefficient players are purchased or the player cannot be productive. In this situation, I am surprised to see that he is still in charge of the team.

The team can’t just give judgement on sacking him all of a sudden without any prior notice or warning. I just have a strong feeling that even if Eric Ten Hag is underperforming and not winning matches for his team, he will be left in the club till the end of the season before they will want to change him. Every manager has a trying times when there will be so many pressure on them and this is what Eric Ten Hag is passing through now. The ability of the manager to manage the team out of the trying times do signify how good a Manager is and will make a meaningful impact when signed.

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Quote from: ShowOff on December 15, 2023, 03:33:05 PM

This may sound unpleasant to Ten Hag, but the failure of a team to achieve its best performance is the coach's responsibility. Ten Hag has good abilities in managing a team, but when there is a lot of pressure on his shoulders then I think his job will become even more difficult.

Manchester United will sure be better when the management or ownership is changed and they’ll be more fortunate to have an Arab owner because of recent we can see the developing love for football by the Arabians and how much they’re ready to invest. Yea, you can see how successful Manchester City are because of proper investments by the Arabs and that’s one major reason the fans wants the Arab to takeover Manchester United.

Chelsea has made some investments too but I think they weren’t the main priority that’s one reason for the team’s downfall and now ETH who got his signings yet isn’t doing well is losing the faith of the fans and that could be a looming disaster too cause alot of talks about him losing his managerial role is beginning to fly around with names like Graham Poter being mentioned as one of the possible replacement. Hmmm, what a joke well let's see what the takeover process unfolds.

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Quote from: QueenVera on December 15, 2023, 04:53:14 PM

I think the problem isn’t ETH but the players especially some lazy set of players who feel they’re too big for some of his routines during training and who doesn’t know the real meaning of playing for the Manchester United badge. Yes, he might be kind of strict but they should know it’s for a cause, to get trophies. And the board too who got most of these lazy players in wouldn’t want to go against them due to some benefits.

So I think the main issue is the Takeover; when finally completed, I feel effective change will spark up in this Manchester United team under the same ETH, and I hope Sir Jim would do a total clean up in the footballing sector of the club and help them get better, especially selling those deadwoods that's got nothing to offer them anymore, cause they're the bad eggs that are hindering the clubs progress too, Martial for example.

I go madt and get paranoid whenever I read about the fans or anyone complaining about how strict Erik Ten Hag has been with the players. Ain't that what a manager is suppose to do?
Do you also recall when they said Ole Gunner Solskjaer was too soft on the boys? That he gives them too much freedom? To be very honest here, I no longer know what the fans and the players want for the club. Whoever doesn't meet up with the standards set by Erik Ten Hag should be sent parking. What the actual Fvck is wrong with Manchester United? The whole club is in a state of confusion from head to low.

Jim Radcliffe pushing to sign Graham Potter if he takes over sent me crazy. That's a failed Manager for Manchester United? He reminds me of David Moyes at Manchester United. I smirk on that news!

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