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November 22, 2023, 11:21:44 AM
At a time when the competition was very difficult in Group F, AC Milan actually had to lose an important player in their team due to injury, of course this would be quite a big loss, as we all know currently the AC Milan team is inconsistent, which means the squad in their team is not yet qualified and It is almost certain that there are no players who are ready to maintain the team's performance if player rotation occurs.

I think AC Milan's percentage of qualifying from the group is now getting smaller, the competition in Group F is very fierce with teams that have good quality such as PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.
This is very good for Dortmund because with Milan not benefiting, Dortmund chances are now more optimistic than before. It would not be surprising that Milan had to face a quite disappointing season, stagnant at domestic level and unable to reduce the points from Juventus. PSG will also not have an easy time facing Newcastle, in their last meeting Newcastle really knew the club weak points. Strengthening the rear defense so that Mbappe does not move freely has become a top priority. PSG never changed their tactics and continued to rely on attacks from Mbappe side. Newcastle, the club, was very adamant about not being nervous early and while the opportunity was still open, Eddie Howe's troops had to use all their abilities.

As far as the outcome of this game is concerned, I don't have any strong preferences, as long as Dortmund comes out on top, which would be satisfactory for me. Due to injuries, AC Milan has unfortunately lost some key players, creating a golden opportunity for Dortmund to secure a spot in the top 16.
Terzic needs to use a lot of benefits owned by dortmund due to the crisis faced by acmilan. Milan is in a very big disadvantage. Missing leao will become the main problem for this club.

Dortmund is in need of replicating the same score as the match against Newcastle in order to achieve their objective. A narrow victory would be more than adequate to secure the club's progression to the next stage.

Gogo dortmund! You can destroy acmilan!
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November 22, 2023, 11:17:47 AM
Initial predictions in group A are about Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Galatasaray and also Copenhagen. But in reality, these predictions did not work well because yes, only Bayern Munich continued to succeed according to expectations and predictions but about Manchester United it was like a mistake. But in reality, at this moment Copenhagen is in second place with 4 points and then Galatasaray with 4 points too, at the bottom of the standings is Manchester United with 3 points. With the points achieved and the points gap being this close, it looks like they can still compete to finish as runners up. It will be interesting to look forward to, and maybe Manchester United will manage to recover, who knows.

Yes, they have chances, but their main problem is that in order to be guaranteed to get into the 1/8 they have to win both remaining games. Lagging behind two teams by one point, even taking into account the fact that on paper these teams are weaker, United is in a dependent position because in the last round one of these teams can win (in the Copenhagen - Galatasaray game this is very likely) and send United to Europa League. And as we know, even an unmotivated Bayern is difficult to beat, so United’s chances are slim.
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November 22, 2023, 11:17:01 AM

Personally I don't give United any chances to actually catch 3rd place that will push them to Europa League because like you said above , they are really vulnerable and not only in UCL but in all competitions they are currently engage ( UCL , Premier League , FA Cup , etc ). They will play against Galatasaray and I think Galata will take this one or at least a draw that will secure 3rd spot for them to catch Europa League.
It's natural to think that way about Manchester United, but for me personally I still give them a chance to go to the Europa League or even accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16, even though I know it will be very difficult with their current performance. But 1 point is a distance they can still chase with 2 matches remaining in the Champions League this group stage.
Europa league could be the right place for manchester united but yeah MU was also failed in europa league last season. I expect nothing if ten hag's club will able to go to the top 16. Mu may probably lose easily against its opponent with the current performance.
MU was not in a good shape and it seems money has become the only main target by manchester united at this moment in UCL. The performance of manchester united was so bad.
Ten hag may able to see his team to be humiliated in the top16 by its opponent if MU will able to qualify. The match against galatasaray will be a key but im doubting united to wint he game.
United is always showing average performance and nothing being improved since last season. The only thing that i aware if manchester united has more problem rather than last season.

Then then it depends on how they try to make it happen, what kind of effort they make it will be very decisive. And if they are still the same as before, then there is no chance for them, unless they have very big luck.
What can we expect from a club that may also lost its goal keeper? Manchester united didn't even have good secondary goal keeper. The club is in a disaster and none expected onana to be injured.
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November 22, 2023, 11:14:47 AM
Galatasaray is very good in times of performance than Manchester United because Galatasaray has made a lot of good winings on this season champions League if you check there previous meetings against other teams you will agree with me that Galatasaray is in a good form compare to Manchester United because they have made more winings than Manchester United.

And perhaps I don't think Manchester United stannce a chance against Galatasaray because if I can recal very well on there last meeting which was within October Galatasaray win Manchester United when they were playing away, so however if Galatasaray could win Manchester United away is it when they are playing from home they will not win them?
It's really sad Manchester united hasn't been brilliant with their performance in the champion's league this season, they have lost too often they are almost not sure of qualifying for the next round of the champions league currently due to their low points they have gathered so far and they happen to be at they bottom of their group standing.

Galatasaray is a team I see as an average team before now because even in their domestic league they are not amongst the best but they look like they play better in the UCL than they do In their local league, aside Bayern Munich, they seem to be contendable with every other team in their group, but then leat see what will be of them if they eventually make it pass the group stage of the champions league.
Yeah is actually very sad honestly because gone are days when Manchester United performance can never be compare with that of Galatasaray because then Manchester United is far better than Galatasaray but now they are struggling to win matches and however if they play the same way they did on there first meeting with Galatasaray they will surely lose the match to Galatasaray again.

For me is very obvious that Manchester United will not qualify to another round because they are still on the button of there group table and however there chances of wining Galatasaray is very low.
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November 22, 2023, 11:05:34 AM

Personally I don't give United any chances to actually catch 3rd place that will push them to Europa League because like you said above , they are really vulnerable and not only in UCL but in all competitions they are currently engage ( UCL , Premier League , FA Cup , etc ). They will play against Galatasaray and I think Galata will take this one or at least a draw that will secure 3rd spot for them to catch Europa League.
It's natural to think that way about Manchester United, but for me personally I still give them a chance to go to the Europa League or even accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16, even though I know it will be very difficult with their current performance. But 1 point is a distance they can still chase with 2 matches remaining in the Champions League this group stage.
Then then it depends on how they try to make it happen, what kind of effort they make it will be very decisive. And if they are still the same as before, then there is no chance for them, unless they have very big luck.
So you're saying that Manchester United must at least hold Bayern Munich to a draw and win against Galatassaray to achieve that? although there is a possibility for that but I don't think it will be enough. We both know that Copenhagen and Galatassaray have points that are slightly superior to Manchester United and I think second place will only belong to one of those teams. Moreover, Galatassaray here is the team that has quite the advantage because they have played against Bayern Munich first, even though the result was a loss, they still have two chances against Manchester United and Copenhagen.

I think Galatassaray's win rate against the other two teams is at 80% and I think they will repeat this good result in the final group stage against Manchester United.
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November 22, 2023, 10:49:35 AM

Galatasaray is a team I see as an average team before now because even in their domestic league they are not amongst the best but they look like they play better in the UCL than they do In their local league, aside Bayern Munich, they seem to be contendable with every other team in their group, but then leat see what will be of them if they eventually make it pass the group stage of the champions league.

How do you say this part? Are you sure you know the Süper League? Galatasaray is currently one of the two best teams in the League.
Have you watched the Bayern Munich-Galatasaray games? If you had watched it, I don't think you would say these things.

Initial predictions in group A are about Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Galatasaray and also Copenhagen. But in reality, these predictions did not work well because yes, only Bayern Munich continued to succeed according to expectations and predictions but about Manchester United it was like a mistake. But in reality, at this moment Copenhagen is in second place with 4 points and then Galatasaray with 4 points too, at the bottom of the standings is Manchester United with 3 points. With the points achieved and the points gap being this close, it looks like they can still compete to finish as runners up. It will be interesting to look forward to, and maybe Manchester United will manage to recover, who knows.
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November 22, 2023, 10:38:31 AM
One of the factors that affect most team or rather club is having excessive star players because most people feel that having all the strong players in one team could boost there performance but on the contrary it doesn't work that way instead it will reduce their performance because nobody will listen to each other.

So however when PSG bought so many stars like Lionel Messi, Mbappe, Neymar, sagio Ramos and so many other good quality players with the belief that they would outperform other clubs but on the contrary they were finding it difficult to perform or wining most of there matches, and even some smaller clubs use to win them, so perhaps with that squad they have losing matches shouldn't have be an option for them, but however since some of there players like Lionel Messi and some other left, PSG was able to breathe and they are playing well more than before.
I agree, having too many stars never been key to success because having better and competitive squad is much better and ideal option even all coaches are having their own strategy and things can go either way, but recently we have good results from few coaches as they were doing without big names but still they need to have few good which can lead from the front PSG was having too many mess-ups but now in this season things are going completely on different way which is positive for them even still long way to go for them, but current squad is having good results after some poor weeks.

Now in this season mostly were feeling they could be down and out but Luis Enrique done good job and pumping youngsters which can bring better results here we need some good support for him from the Management as well which is dreaming for the Champions League for long time but never have any positive return but at this point we can expect from them to do better and then go for the title in coming years in this season things are not ideal in presence of too many strong teams which are at his best.
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November 22, 2023, 10:13:13 AM

Personally I don't give United any chances to actually catch 3rd place that will push them to Europa League because like you said above , they are really vulnerable and not only in UCL but in all competitions they are currently engage ( UCL , Premier League , FA Cup , etc ). They will play against Galatasaray and I think Galata will take this one or at least a draw that will secure 3rd spot for them to catch Europa League.
It's natural to think that way about Manchester United, but for me personally I still give them a chance to go to the Europa League or even accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16, even though I know it will be very difficult with their current performance. But 1 point is a distance they can still chase with 2 matches remaining in the Champions League this group stage.
Then then it depends on how they try to make it happen, what kind of effort they make it will be very decisive. And if they are still the same as before, then there is no chance for them, unless they have very big luck.
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November 22, 2023, 09:56:17 AM
I think this is right. Manchester United, if for some lucky reason they qualify for the next round in the Champions League, would be smashed there. I think they wouldn't even remain in the Europa League very long. This team is not in shape for any competition outside the Premier League and even there it seems to not be a good enough level for them to achieve anything meaningful this season.
It seems impossible if Manchester United manages to win the remaining two matches because this match is quite tough. Manchester United seems to be having difficulty facing competitors in Group A. How could it not be that so far Manchester United has only been able to get 3 points and they are at the bottom of the standings, only a miracle can do it bringing this club to qualify for the round of 16, to be in third place to appear in the European league also seems difficult for Manchester United. In my opinion, the opportunity to enter the European league is Copenhagen but if Manchester City is able to perform amazingly to at least get a draw in two matches Later, at least Manchester United will be in third placed.
But looking at Copenhagen performance in the next two match, if Copenhagen is unable to win, Manchester United will occupy that position.
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November 22, 2023, 09:32:27 AM
One of the factors that affect most team or rather club is having excessive star players because most people feel that having all the strong players in one team could boost there performance but on the contrary it doesn't work that way instead it will reduce their performance because nobody will listen to each other.

So however when PSG bought so many stars like Lionel Messi, Mbappe, Neymar, sagio Ramos and so many other good quality players with the belief that they would outperform other clubs but on the contrary they were finding it difficult to perform or wining most of there matches, and even some smaller clubs use to win them, so perhaps with that squad they have losing matches shouldn't have be an option for them, but however since some of there players like Lionel Messi and some other left, PSG was able to breathe and they are playing well more than before.
Learning from PSG when signing many top players they can't manage well with some of star player not playing as working team but more ego of them, PSG' manager when have many top players Christophe Galtier faced difficult how to make their teams playing well as one unity team regarding many of the show their individual skill only. PSG can't win UEFA Champion League tittle although have signed Lionel Messi and there are most danger attacking line such as Neymar and Mbappe.

Yes, PSG had too many stars in their previous tournament, and there were many internal problems, leading to a lack of team unity in the match. I feel like they are playing for money. Their morale seemed to be at zero. Coach Galtier was unable to solve this problem. To put it bluntly, he did not have the talent to lead big teams. We should know that the egos of superstars are enormous, and managing them is a complex problem.

Difference with Manchester City dominance by many top players but Pep Guardiola can manage well with team working and many of them not ego for priority their team mates who has bigger chance for scoring goals. In this season, PSG have secure six points left two matches if want qualify to next round and Luis Henrique have to motivate his player how most important on Champion League matches left if want get one position in 16 round.

We cannot compare it with Pep Guardiola. He is a football genius. After a long journey of pursuing glory, Man City has become the Champions League champion. Also, during this time, Pep Guardiola constantly had to fight with doubts and judgments, saying that he could never win the European championship without the help of the genius Lionel Messi. But with a group of young players, he built a powerful Man City empire, completing the excellent treble. PSG's new coach, Luis Enrique, is doing his role well. The team is gradually entering stability. But if they reach the round of 16, the possibility of being eliminated early is possible because they do not have enough strength to dream of winning the championship trophy this season.
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November 22, 2023, 09:28:30 AM

Galatasaray is a team I see as an average team before now because even in their domestic league they are not amongst the best but they look like they play better in the UCL than they do In their local league, aside Bayern Munich, they seem to be contendable with every other team in their group, but then leat see what will be of them if they eventually make it pass the group stage of the champions league.

How do you say this part? Are you sure you know the Süper League? Galatasaray is currently one of the two best teams in the League.
Have you watched the Bayern Munich-Galatasaray games? If you had watched it, I don't think you would say these things.
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November 22, 2023, 09:22:03 AM
Galatasaray is very good in times of performance than Manchester United because Galatasaray has made a lot of good winings on this season champions League if you check there previous meetings against other teams you will agree with me that Galatasaray is in a good form compare to Manchester United because they have made more winings than Manchester United.

And perhaps I don't think Manchester United stannce a chance against Galatasaray because if I can recal very well on there last meeting which was within October Galatasaray win Manchester United when they were playing away, so however if Galatasaray could win Manchester United away is it when they are playing from home they will not win them?
It's really sad Manchester united hasn't been brilliant with their performance in the champion's league this season, they have lost too often they are almost not sure of qualifying for the next round of the champions league currently due to their low points they have gathered so far and they happen to be at they bottom of their group standing.

Galatasaray is a team I see as an average team before now because even in their domestic league they are not amongst the best but they look like they play better in the UCL than they do In their local league, aside Bayern Munich, they seem to be contendable with every other team in their group, but then leat see what will be of them if they eventually make it pass the group stage of the champions league.
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November 22, 2023, 09:14:59 AM
Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.
Clubs keeps fighting to transform to a better form. We know how vulnerable Manchester United can be this season, losing against elite teams and firmly holding their ground against average clubs. Manchester united might not be in their best form but they're actually having good scores from league games but the only place they've failed is the UEFA Champions League. Erik Ten Hag have tried to lift the club to the specialised top positions. Manchester United faces Galatasaray next in UEFA CL, can the Red Devils be able to recover lost points against their rivals this season.

Ten hag unable to solves the problem in manchester or he was also adding another problem like being involved in the conflict against sancho which was unnecessary thing. Ten hag shall be open with any complaints that came toward him.
The response to the sancho's disappointment gave me an impression if ten hag is pretty much the same like a dictator in the club. He was a coach but he shall have also welcome to the any suggestions that came toward him.
It doesn't even matter whether it was from public or his players. He needs to accept if it it's related to the truth. Sancho was only demanding more time to play from him but ten hag was always refusing it.

He doesn't have respect for his player. It was destroying the situation in the club while at the same time MU has many important schedules. I would not be surprised if MU will lose against galatasaray soon.
The squad is not so depth atm.
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November 22, 2023, 09:13:10 AM
Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.
Clubs keeps fighting to transform to a better form. We know how vulnerable Manchester United can be this season, losing against elite teams and firmly holding their ground against average clubs. Manchester united might not be in their best form but they're actually having good scores from league games but the only place they've failed is the UEFA Champions League. Erik Ten Hag have tried to lift the club to the specialised top positions. Manchester United faces Galatasaray next in UEFA CL, can the Red Devils be able to recover lost points against their rivals this season.

Personally I don't give United any chances to actually catch 3rd place that will push them to Europa League because like you said above , they are really vulnerable and not only in UCL but in all competitions they are currently engage ( UCL , Premier League , FA Cup , etc ). They will play against Galatasaray and I think Galata will take this one or at least a draw that will secure 3rd spot for them to catch Europa League.

I think this is right. Manchester United, if for some lucky reason they qualify for the next round in the Champions League, would be smashed there. I think they wouldn't even remain in the Europa League very long. This team is not in shape for any competition outside the Premier League and even there it seems to not be a good enough level for them to achieve anything meaningful this season.
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November 22, 2023, 09:06:26 AM
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 Arsenal are not enlisted as the best team in UEFA Champions League, remember they have not feature in the Champions league for a long time and watching them bouncing back to actions doesn't surprise me. Arsenal cannot bark as a confident EPL club, rather they do fumbled like an any other EPL club just like Newcastle United and Manchester United.
Currently based on performance in both their domestic League, and the four matches they have played in the Champions League so far, they are not among the best, but cannot be looked down on because they have the hope of winning any team presently in the Champions League because they have the squad to play and win against any big team in the world right mow.

I know that experience matters in Champions League that is why I am directly saying that Arsenal are capable of winning the Champions League, but based on their performance since last season, they will try and they will go far in the Champions League this season.

Anything can happen in a football competition that will surprise you like what happened between Manchester city and Chelsea in the premier league that ended up draw 4-4, but it will be difficult for Arsenal to win the champion league title easily because there are many teams that are well organized to frustrate their efforts not to allow them to win the title. They have defeated many teams in this season, and draw with some small teams but Manchester city and Liverpool will not allow them to win the title but they can struggle for second position to make their fans happy. If you watch some of the tough matches Arsenal played with Chelsea and Brentford, you will know that they can end up in second position in this season , but it will be difficult for them to win the title.

The result from any big matches in EPL are very hard to predict. This totally depends on how good the club is. I meant the line will be also determining the gameplay from the club too. There have been many big matches but only a few matches that was able giving us a different atmosphere like city vs chelsea. As long as we are seeing two clubs used fully offensive strategy and we will able to see a very attractive match. Arsenal has been knwon as a bottle club. Im not even putting more expectation to this club even though arsenal was being placed at the first place.
City can surpass it anytime and arsenal never had winning mentality. So many times this club repeats the same mistake over and over. People were also feeling so tired with it.
I must say it's amazing if chelsea will able to finish at the top 4.
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November 22, 2023, 08:53:00 AM
Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.
Clubs keeps fighting to transform to a better form. We know how vulnerable Manchester United can be this season, losing against elite teams and firmly holding their ground against average clubs. Manchester united might not be in their best form but they're actually having good scores from league games but the only place they've failed is the UEFA Champions League. Erik Ten Hag have tried to lift the club to the specialised top positions. Manchester United faces Galatasaray next in UEFA CL, can the Red Devils be able to recover lost points against their rivals this season.

Personally I don't give United any chances to actually catch 3rd place that will push them to Europa League because like you said above , they are really vulnerable and not only in UCL but in all competitions they are currently engage ( UCL , Premier League , FA Cup , etc ). They will play against Galatasaray and I think Galata will take this one or at least a draw that will secure 3rd spot for them to catch Europa League.
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November 22, 2023, 08:48:57 AM
At a time when the competition was very difficult in Group F, AC Milan actually had to lose an important player in their team due to injury, of course this would be quite a big loss, as we all know currently the AC Milan team is inconsistent, which means the squad in their team is not yet qualified and It is almost certain that there are no players who are ready to maintain the team's performance if player rotation occurs.

I think AC Milan's percentage of qualifying from the group is now getting smaller, the competition in Group F is very fierce with teams that have good quality such as PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.
This is very good for Dortmund because with Milan not benefiting, Dortmund chances are now more optimistic than before. It would not be surprising that Milan had to face a quite disappointing season, stagnant at domestic level and unable to reduce the points from Juventus. PSG will also not have an easy time facing Newcastle, in their last meeting Newcastle really knew the club weak points. Strengthening the rear defense so that Mbappe does not move freely has become a top priority. PSG never changed their tactics and continued to rely on attacks from Mbappe side. Newcastle, the club, was very adamant about not being nervous early and while the opportunity was still open, Eddie Howe's troops had to use all their abilities.
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November 22, 2023, 08:32:13 AM
Perhaps more time is needed, but you must agree that at the end of last season Manchester United looked much better than now. The most important thing is that ten Hag understands what the problem is with such a decline and is able to correct it, because he may not have much time. What if Manchester United’s participation in the Champions League ends now at the group stage, will Ten Hagu be allowed to remain as the team’s coaches?

Manchester United can beat Galatasaray, but it will be an away game, and they will also have a chance in the match with Bayern, since for Bayern this match will not decide anything, but even in this case Bayern will be a very strong team.
Clubs keeps fighting to transform to a better form. We know how vulnerable Manchester United can be this season, losing against elite teams and firmly holding their ground against average clubs. Manchester united might not be in their best form but they're actually having good scores from league games but the only place they've failed is the UEFA Champions League. Erik Ten Hag have tried to lift the club to the specialised top positions. Manchester United faces Galatasaray next in UEFA CL, can the Red Devils be able to recover lost points against their rivals this season.
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A team should never be underrated though, but Galatasaray should not be a threat to Manchester United if they had a good season from the Premier League. How well you play in the Premier League reflects on the Champions League games too.

Galatasaray also cannot be underestimated, and it seems to me that in the state in which Manchester United is now there is a danger of losing to Manchester United. Since the Red Devils are not in the best shape right now, the same cannot be said about Galatasaray. Therefore, there is still a risk of loss.
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November 22, 2023, 08:22:20 AM

At a time when the competition was very difficult in Group F, AC Milan actually had to lose an important player in their team due to injury, of course this would be quite a big loss, as we all know currently the AC Milan team is inconsistent, which means the squad in their team is not yet qualified and It is almost certain that there are no players who are ready to maintain the team's performance if player rotation occurs.

I think AC Milan's percentage of qualifying from the group is now getting smaller, the competition in Group F is very fierce with teams that have good quality such as PSG, Newcastle and Dortmund.
Indeed, in group F now the atmosphere is simply tense.
Milan will not have an easy game and perhaps they will be defeated by Borussia and this will be a shift to last position and perhaps they will remain penultimate in the group. A miracle is needed for Milan fans.
The remaining two matches in the UCL will be life and death matches for the clubs in Group F, after four matches, none of them managed to secure a ticket to the round of 16. The difference in points between the four clubs is also very thin, Newcastle, who is in the bottom position, still has a chance of qualifying for the next round.

Milan who host Dortmund in the 5th game, must take advantage of the home game to open up their opportunities, victory is a price that cannot be negotiated if you want to maintain your chances. Dortmund, PSG, Milan and Newcastle will have two tough matches, they have to avoid the slightest mistakes in order to get a place to play in the next round.
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