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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on November 10, 2023, 02:50:21 PM

They got so close and lost to Real Madrid. I must say pain, loses and failures are also good for one to accept. You have to be a beautiful loser at times before you finally win.
I was happy he was winning the treble only sad he did it with Manchester City Grin

. Aside Manchester United, they're now the other club in the Premier League to have joined Manchester United in doing same.

Congratulations to him, he should turn the Premier League to a famers league successfully if he eventually wins the Premier League once again. Lol.
He has plans winning the treble once more this year, that would be difficult but not impossible to achieve. It's Pep Guardiola off course. ( The Perfectionists )

I'd love to see him managing the Spanish National Team or The England National Team. Which ever country he represents will have a chance of winning the next FIFA World Cup Competition.

Manchester City players must have understood that it isn't really impossible for them to do treble after the previous season. Grin

Guardiola has a system running like clockwork for years. But he had to wait for this huge achievement for many years. Can he repeat this success this season? I think yes, why not? They are already very strong in the English Premier League as you also said. Maybe Tottenham and Arsenal are also challenging for the title but I still expect Guardiola to be the winner at the end.

They can surely win the FA Cup again as well. However the Champions League is more complicated than even the English Premier League. They will need to stay strong against the biggest contenders again.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 13, 2023, 04:54:14 AM

Meanwhile for Galatasaray, playing at their own base means they will go all out to get full points to shift Copenhagen's position. and in other matches, Copenhagen will have difficulty overthrowing Bayern, especially since the match will be held at the Allianz Arena. However, let's see how the match will be held. Maybe, there will be a surprise that we will see.

I think Galatasaray is capable of beating Manchester United at home, especially considering that the previous match between the two was very fierce but the result was that Galatasaray was much better prepared than Manchester United, in my opinion Manchester United will still show their best game and as much as possible they will make it difficult for Galatasaray to get points because of course Manchester United sometimes surprises them in decisive matches.

Copenhagen is not an opponent that makes things difficult for Munich, of course it is difficult for them to beat Munich. What we know is that they are the favorite club which is predicted to win the UCL title this season. Munich is a club that never underestimates its opponents, even against clubs that are not favorites, they always play. maximum, so it's not surprising that Munich often wins with big scores and scores lots of goals against the opponent's goal.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 12, 2023, 11:28:46 PM

For the UCL itself, the three teams Dortmund, PSG and AC Milan have relatively small difference in points and there will be fierce competition for safe positions.

In the two remaining matches, if the four teams want to qualify, they must not lose at all, but the fifth match will probably be decisive and I think PSG and AC Milan have a chance of winning this fifth match considering that they will be the hosts of the match.
We saw how AC Milan managed to get their first win when playing at home and PSG also managed to win when playing at home, but they must not be careless because this is a group with a high level of difficulty in getting through to the knockout phase.

Quote from: len01 on November 13, 2023, 05:36:08 AM

and regarding betting on this match, it looks like I will avoid betting on the Man United match because if I force myself to bet on this team being unstable there will definitely be surprises.

Ignoring betting on Manchester United matches, especially in the Champions League, is the best choice because they will always be surprising, they can win but also lose when they are not predicted to lose, and even Manchester United will face difficulties in qualifying for the knockout phase even though the opportunity is still there but if the performance they remain the same so don't expect them to qualify because Galasataray will probably be the team that accompanies Bayern Munich to the knockout phase.

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Whoever watched the two games between Bayern Munich and Galatasaray in the UEFA Champions League competition this season must attest to the fact that the Turkish champions really fought a good fight but were unfortunate to lose the two games in the hands of Bayern Munich. The reason for their defeats in those two games is because they played against a Bayern Munich team that are currently considered as one of the best teams in Europe. But against Manchester United at home in their next fixture, I think Galatasaray are gonna get all three points from that game and join Bayern Munich to qualify to the knockout stages

In the case of Manchester United, you can't be sure of anything. The team is able to gather at times and hold a decent match, but then immediately after that lose. The fact that Galatasaray will be the host of the match makes me give some advantage to this club, because playing with their own fiercely ill stands is an important factor when playing with modern Manchester United. However, Manchester United can gather for a separate match, especially since the team has a good chance of getting out of the group, at least on paper. Therefore, I still believe that Galatasaray at least will not lose at home.

predicting Man United away match will be very difficult, while this team is very unstable, as you said, sometimes Man United can perform very amazingly and this difficulty comes when Man United plays at home and is also defeated by Galatasaray, but the defeat occurs after Casemiro gets a card. red so the match was initially a draw but surprisingly the Galatasaray players got 1 additional score to win the match and now Man United have to appear away which really will be very difficult to win the match like its impossible and I'm quite unsure if MU can win but at least a draw might be more certain.

and regarding betting on this match, it looks like I will avoid betting on the Man United match because if I force myself to bet on this team being unstable there will definitely be surprises.

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Not only did they lose Rafael Leao but AC Milan also had to lose Olivier Giroud in the next few matches because of the red card he received.
These two players could cause Milan big loss because these two players have become the key to Milan strength and in the match against Dortmund there may be series of pressures experienced by Milan.

Stefano Pioli had to rack his brains by using several ways to use other players to fill the void left by Rafael Leao and Olivier Giroud.
Now there will only be squad with limited players, in fact I not sure Milan can have maximum results in the match against Dortmund.

But the match against Dortmund is still at the end of the month so there is chance that Stefano Pioli will have quite long time to prepare everything.

Losing Rafael Leao must be a big hit to the team and to the squad because he is one of the best players of that team if not for the best player, but they lost Giroud to red card as well which means that he is going to miss the next game as well. I do not know what they are going to do, because next game they are going to play is Fiorentina, who may not be as good as they used to be, but not a team to striffle with neither, they are still pretty decent and could end up with an upset.

I think Milan needs to bring in all the rest of the players and do a proper training to rest them, there are ways to make the players rest better at the club and feel better, then just let them sit at home, because most of these million dollar players do not actually "rest" when left alone, but when you bring them to the club they are forced to rest, and massaged and basically all around relax. They need to put 100% in order to get the win without a doubt.

In the future, they have two matches this month and it is certain that these two players will not be able to play for AC Milan, whereas in these two matches the opponents will be Fiorentina in Serie A and Dortmund in the UCL.
Indeed, Fiorentina is not dangerous team, but they have produced enough wins to occupy 6th place with 20 points.
This match is threat for Milan because there is possibility that Fiorentina can take advantage of the absence of two great Milan players to beat them and improve their standings by getting full points in this match.
Likewise with the UCL which is definitely an opportunity for Dortmund to win and be far above in Group F.

Until now, we don't know what Milan will do to face these two matches without their mainstay players.
But this is heavy pressure for Milan in this season, which is still relatively early.

For the UCL itself, the three teams Dortmund, PSG and AC Milan have relatively small difference in points and there will be fierce competition for safe positions.

Until the last minutes in this group, you can't predict which team is going to be in the next stage and we knew it when the Champions League started because this group has four strong teams like Dortmund, Newcastle, PSG, and AC Milan.
PSG is currently in good form and they are close to getting into the next stage but between AC Milan, Newcastle, and Dortmund it's harder to predict.
I think Dortmund and PSG are going to be the first and second teams in this gorp.

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At the moment, is becoming clear that Manchester City will still take the trophy in that season and the reason being that, the club have been on a run up in all measure matches since the last 9games and that to a large extent is going to tell have the club performance is going to be in the next few matches to come, this is what we have to look out for in whatever discussion we have and at whatever time.

Even though there have been a few pockets of decline in performance in the last few days, it still seems that Manchester still maintains the most formidable team and also can deliver at each of their matches.

Manchester City may be your favorite club but they are not exactly invisible this season like they were before. This is the champions league we are talking about, it’s not a farmers league. I think it is still early to call Manchester City favorites to win the trophy because there are other top teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich who also record one hundred percent success rate in the champions league.

This will not be business as usual for Manchester City in this season, although Manchester City has done extremely well in the last few seasons and that is something that we have to commend them for, because os not easy for a club to sustain and maintained an steady winning across all leagues for multiple seasons just like Manchester city did in the last two seasons.

But this time, things have changed, and Manchester City may be going in for a long period of head-tight confrontation with some of the other stronger teams who may have suffered set back in the last few seasons to warrant Manchester City's success in those past seasons, but at this point, those clubs have recovered and there are really good and ready to take Manchester city head on and possibly dropping them out of the award in this season in all things being equal for those clubs.

Manchester City won the Champions League title in the last season and obviously, that's a good reason to say they are the favorite team for the tournament even during this the season but the fact about Manchester City and Pep Guardiola is they lost some power. Manchester City sold some players and they couldn't spend money and buy better players like other teams did during the summer and that's why I think other teams like Bayern Munich will have more chance of this.

Manchester City is no doubt the champion and at the same time the title holder so for that, their still have the better chances of finishing the season in a strong fit, more also we have to take into account their inabality to make a right replacement for the those players that left the club during the last transfer market.

Manchester City should have made adequate plans to have a suitable replacement before letting their talented players off the huck from the club at least they should have learned from other clubs' experiences who have taken similar steps and failed in the past.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on November 13, 2023, 04:06:31 AM

I agree with you. That is why being a team that has won the Champions League in a row like Real Madrid has done is a prestigious record that is very proud and will become a historical record. I can say that it will be a little difficult for City to become champions of the Champions League again. This opportunity will still exist, but I think currently Munich is the favorite to win. I bet this year's UCL will be taken to Germany. I also predict that by looking at the participating clubs this year, I see City's chances of reaching the final or semifinals. This is my personal opinion.

To win the UCL trophy in a row will be quite a tough thing for a team other than Real Madrid. But for Manchester City they still have hope of winning a trophy this season because they have the same strong squad depth as last season. Maybe they need Kevin leadership to achieve all that because he is one of the most important players in the Manchester City squad. To maintain balance, of course they must be able to maintain their performance quite well this season.

Munich, maybe they are quite strong this season, they have improved quite well in strengthening to become stronger. Yes, Bayern Munich is the strongest candidate if you look at their quality this season and to win the UCL trophy they have to try quite hard this season. Apart from that, we will also see which teams will reach the round of 16.

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Quote from: Weawant on November 13, 2023, 03:50:30 AM

Manchester united playing Galatasaray at Galatasaray's home in their next champions league fixture is definitely going to be another though one for Manchester united as that fixture is a determinant for Galatasaray and they will be playing form home against Manchester united.

Galatasaray would not want to give a chance to Manchester united on this one because if they loose they are definitely going to be affected with their chances to qualify, they have four points with Copenhagen which is at the second position on the table, if they win and Copenhagen loose to Bayern Munich they are definitely sure of qualifying but if they draw then Copenhagen will have to loose for them to be sure of qualifying so the best alternative for them is to win which they are definitely going to make to that in their home, currently it looks like Manchester united with their current form needs a miracle to qualify.

Manchester United is a traditional club in Europe and also gave bigger records in the UEFA Champions League competition than their opponents in their next fixture of the competition Galatasaray but that doesn't mean that they have a better chance if winning that encounter than the Turkish champions.
Galatasaray who defeated Manchester United at Old Trafford in their second game of the season in the competition I think are physically, tactically and mentally better to win that game when the play host the the English Premier League club. Galatasaray will be playing that game knowing fully well that they need nothing but a win if they must reach the knockout stages and that's why they'll definitely give their best in the game to make sure they take all three points from that game

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Quote from: Weawant on November 13, 2023, 03:50:30 AM

Manchester united playing Galatasaray at Galatasaray's home in their next champions league fixture is definitely going to be another though one for Manchester united as that fixture is a determinant for Galatasaray and they will be playing form home against Manchester united.

Galatasaray would not want to give a chance to Manchester united on this one because if they loose they are definitely going to be affected with their chances to qualify, they have four points with Copenhagen which is at the second position on the table, if they win and Copenhagen loose to Bayern Munich they are definitely sure of qualifying but if they draw then Copenhagen will have to loose for them to be sure of qualifying so the best alternative for them is to win which they are definitely going to make to that in their home, currently it looks like Manchester united with their current form needs a miracle to qualify.

Honestly, looking at United at the moment I really doubt it. especially when they visited Rams Park, Galatasaray's headquarters. So far, they haven't shown many changes well. In fact, two United players have been injured again, although their status is not yet certain. but the impact is very clear, if Hojlund and Eriksen are absent, then I am not sure about United's chances in the away match at Galatasaray headquarters. although in reality, United also needs to win in the Champions League group stage match. I think Ten Hag has to take a stand, and doesn't need to force his squad even though he doesn't have to just give up. There is always a chance, even though the probability is very slim if the scenario is that the players are injured. Their minimum could be to finish in 3rd place to enter the European League playoffs, if the scenario is that United collapses at Galatasaray's headquarters.

Meanwhile for Galatasaray, playing at their own base means they will go all out to get full points to shift Copenhagen's position. and in other matches, Copenhagen will have difficulty overthrowing Bayern, especially since the match will be held at the Allianz Arena. However, let's see how the match will be held. Maybe, there will be a surprise that we will see.

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Losing Rafael Leao must be a big hit to the team and to the squad because he is one of the best players of that team if not for the best player, but they lost Giroud to red card as well which means that he is going to miss the next game as well. I do not know what they are going to do, because next game they are going to play is Fiorentina, who may not be as good as they used to be, but not a team to striffle with neither, they are still pretty decent and could end up with an upset.

I think Milan needs to bring in all the rest of the players and do a proper training to rest them, there are ways to make the players rest better at the club and feel better, then just let them sit at home, because most of these million dollar players do not actually "rest" when left alone, but when you bring them to the club they are forced to rest, and massaged and basically all around relax. They need to put 100% in order to get the win without a doubt.

AC Milan going down to injury crisis and red card crisis could start going down the drail just like Tottenham FC and it’s a worrisome thing for this team who’s gearing up for top spot, Fiorentina could be seen as a lowkey team who could ball you when even when they know they stand little or no chance in the game.

They will play with all determinations and try to cause an offset for Milan in their next match, now the reason for squad depth arises, does Milan have the squad depth to gun for the title? I think the coach has a lot to do in coming weeks if he’s to keep up on top spot, because their rivals intermilan and Juventus are currently doing well so to keep up with them they need to be at their best and improve their performance.

This AC Milan we see in this season is not stable enough and they are not in a good situation at all because Rafael Leao was not the only injured player in this team but there are many other injured players in AC Milan. I think Rafael Leao and some other players got injured mostly because of bad training or the mistakes of some coaches or doctors because having many injured players is not normal at all.

I would give very low rating if i can. Acmilan played so badly like the club has a lot of internal conflicts that have been affecting the performance from the club. I can't even be positive anymore. Acmilan will be also missing some important players.
The story of acmilan in UCL this season will come to its end soon. The chance owned by acmilan to pass the group stage is very small and im not even interesting to pick it caused by the chance to lose is pretty high.
The main problem acmilan will play without leao. We do know that leao was something who contributed a lot for napoli. This is also building the opinion if acmilan will be losing against its opponent through easy game.
Pioli is now facing a very difficult situation at this moment. It seems like that pioli will be losing its position as acmilan's coach.

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At the moment, is becoming clear that Manchester City will still take the trophy in that season and the reason being that, the club have been on a run up in all measure matches since the last 9games and that to a large extent is going to tell have the club performance is going to be in the next few matches to come, this is what we have to look out for in whatever discussion we have and at whatever time.

Even though there have been a few pockets of decline in performance in the last few days, it still seems that Manchester still maintains the most formidable team and also can deliver at each of their matches.

Manchester City may be your favorite club but they are not exactly invisible this season like they were before. This is the champions league we are talking about, it’s not a farmers league. I think it is still early to call Manchester City favorites to win the trophy because there are other top teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich who also record one hundred percent success rate in the champions league.

This will not be business as usual for Manchester City in this season, although Manchester City has done extremely well in the last few seasons and that is something that we have to commend them for, because os not easy for a club to sustain and maintained an steady winning across all leagues for multiple seasons just like Manchester city did in the last two seasons.

But this time, things have changed, and Manchester City may be going in for a long period of head-tight confrontation with some of the other stronger teams who may have suffered set back in the last few seasons to warrant Manchester City's success in those past seasons, but at this point, those clubs have recovered and there are really good and ready to take Manchester city head on and possibly dropping them out of the award in this season in all things being equal for those clubs.

Manchester City won the Champions League title in the last season and obviously, that's a good reason to say they are the favorite team for the tournament even during this the season but the fact about Manchester City and Pep Guardiola is they lost some power. Manchester City sold some players and they couldn't spend money and buy better players like other teams did during the summer and that's why I think other teams like Bayern Munich will have more chance of this.

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Becoming a stable club is not as easy as Man City imagines, because the UCL is very difficult to predict when all clubs try to show different performances in their respective domestic competitions.

I agree with you. That is why being a team that has won the Champions League in a row like Real Madrid has done is a prestigious record that is very proud and will become a historical record. I can say that it will be a little difficult for City to become champions of the Champions League again. This opportunity will still exist, but I think currently Munich is the favorite to win. I bet this year's UCL will be taken to Germany. I also predict that by looking at the participating clubs this year, I see City's chances of reaching the final or semifinals. This is my personal opinion.

The two teams are doing greatly well in the champions league and I won’t say one of the teams have the better chances of winning the Champions League. The competition is still at his early stage, so we won’t know how far this teams will advance but getting to semifinals and finals is almost certain for them from the way they are currently performing. If they don’t meet in the knockout stage early, I’m anticipating for them to meet in the semifinals or finals. How they perform in that match will determine who will win the champions league title.

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But this time, things have changed, and Manchester City may be going in for a long period of head-tight confrontation with some of the other stronger teams who may have suffered set back in the last few seasons to warrant Manchester City's success in those past seasons, but at this point, those clubs have recovered and there are really good and ready to take Manchester city head on and possibly dropping them out of the award in this season in all things being equal for those clubs.

Yes, you are right about Man City having to accept the fact that no matter how perfect their current squad is, weaknesses will always be there and will be easy targets for opponents. In the Champions League we will now be faced with unexpected competitors and Man City must be prepared with their record from last season continuing to be at stake. Bayern Munich appeared more aggressive and had an ideal squad when Harry Kane arrived, so they could be the toughest challenger to win the trophy which is Bayern Munich only dream. Indirectly, this is a challenge for Man City who feel that this season is going well but do not think that other clubs have made significant improvements to prepare for competition in the UCL competition. Becoming a stable club is not as easy as Man City imagines, because the UCL is very difficult to predict when all clubs try to show different performances in their respective domestic competitions.

I agree with this because some clubs can definitely be troublesome now even if they weren't favorites before but for the Champions League everything is unpredictable because there could be some clubs that will surprise.
Bayern, Manchester City and Madrid are still one of the favorite clubs that they are definitely possible to talk further in the Champions League but for some other clubs there could be some surprises that occur such as when in the previous 2 seasons Villarreal managed to be in the quarter-finals or indeed last season 2 Serie A clubs reached the Semi-finals so indeed all possibilities about club surprises will still occur for now.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 13, 2023, 03:34:47 AM

Becoming a stable club is not as easy as Man City imagines, because the UCL is very difficult to predict when all clubs try to show different performances in their respective domestic competitions.

I agree with you. That is why being a team that has won the Champions League in a row like Real Madrid has done is a prestigious record that is very proud and will become a historical record. I can say that it will be a little difficult for City to become champions of the Champions League again. This opportunity will still exist, but I think currently Munich is the favorite to win. I bet this year's UCL will be taken to Germany. I also predict that by looking at the participating clubs this year, I see City's chances of reaching the final or semifinals. This is my personal opinion.

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Manchester united playing Galatasaray at Galatasaray's home in their next champions league fixture is definitely going to be another though one for Manchester united as that fixture is a determinant for Galatasaray and they will be playing form home against Manchester united.

Galatasaray would not want to give a chance to Manchester united on this one because if they loose they are definitely going to be affected with their chances to qualify, they have four points with Copenhagen which is at the second position on the table, if they win and Copenhagen loose to Bayern Munich they are definitely sure of qualifying but if they draw then Copenhagen will have to loose for them to be sure of qualifying so the best alternative for them is to win which they are definitely going to make to that in their home, currently it looks like Manchester united with their current form needs a miracle to qualify.

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Tipping Manchester city, Real Madrid and Bayern munich as the possible UEFA Champions league winners isn't bad I mean over the years, these aforementioned clubs have really dominated the champions league but I see some turn around this time.
Currently the clubs are in good form and looks like teams that wouldn't be defeated except they meet each other but believe this is football as history are meant to be broken so I foresee a weaker team surprising the bigger clubs in this season champions league trophy.

Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich are considered to be the most consistent and strongest teams in the Champions League this season. Although Real Madrid have some weaknesses in attack, Ancelotti continues to try his best to fix these weaknesses. And because of this, Real Madrid's performance is still very consistent. On the other hand Bayern Munich team is very strong. And I would say Munich have the strongest squad in the Champions League. Manchester City midfield is a bit weak. However, due to Guardiola's excellent match tactics, we are getting good performances from this team in every match. I personally don't see Barcelona as favorites for the Champions League anymore. The performance of this team is very erratic.

of the several teams you mentioned that have a fairly perfect line up for me at the moment Bayern Munich but it will not guarantee to win the title in the UCL and even though Real Madrid has weaknesses in the attack line but look Madrid is very perfect with the players they currently have when Bellingham is able to play the role of striker in Madrid and just imagine if Madrid were able to bring in a great striker it would definitely be perfect.
and for Man City I agree with your statement in the midfield there is a slight decline in performance unlike last season and this is not a difficult situation for Guardiola because the transfer market will reopen to be able to get the best players to strengthen the midfield.

for now, Barcelona may have to accept the fact that they dont really expect to get a title in the UCL because in terms of players, perhaps the talent they have is not strong enough to compete in the UCL and my only hope is that Barcelona will focus on La Liga and improve its finances to quickly recover its finances and be able to win more talented players to chase the title at UCL again.

Even though we do not see too many problems for Real Madrid, even though they do not have the best-attacking setup right now, I think we are going to see some problems for them in the future. Especially when they are going to face bigger opponents. When they are going to face Manchester City Bayern Munich and other opponents like that, they are definitely going to feel the need for a great striker. That's why I was honestly a little amazed to see that Real Madrid did not do almost anything to get Harry Kane. Of course, the money that Keram was asking for was too much. But they definitely could have made an effort.

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Quote from: Wiwo on November 12, 2023, 06:55:59 PM

But this time, things have changed, and Manchester City may be going in for a long period of head-tight confrontation with some of the other stronger teams who may have suffered set back in the last few seasons to warrant Manchester City's success in those past seasons, but at this point, those clubs have recovered and there are really good and ready to take Manchester city head on and possibly dropping them out of the award in this season in all things being equal for those clubs.

Yes, you are right about Man City having to accept the fact that no matter how perfect their current squad is, weaknesses will always be there and will be easy targets for opponents. In the Champions League we will now be faced with unexpected competitors and Man City must be prepared with their record from last season continuing to be at stake. Bayern Munich appeared more aggressive and had an ideal squad when Harry Kane arrived, so they could be the toughest challenger to win the trophy which is Bayern Munich only dream. Indirectly, this is a challenge for Man City who feel that this season is going well but do not think that other clubs have made significant improvements to prepare for competition in the UCL competition. Becoming a stable club is not as easy as Man City imagines, because the UCL is very difficult to predict when all clubs try to show different performances in their respective domestic competitions.

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Not only for AC Milan, but for all clubs the last 2 matches will be a life and death match, the article all clubs still have a chance to be able to qualify with a record in the last 2 matches they can achieve very positive results or they managed to collect 6 points. with a situation like this, then there is no other choice for all clubs to play all out in their matches.
It is not wrong when this group is said to be the hell group this season, seeing their very tight competition and beating each other of course this makes us curious who 2 clubs will be able to secure tickets to go to the round of 16.

The four teams in Group F have almost the same quality, so it's natural that the competition is very tight and up to now (two matches remaining) the four teams have almost the same chance of getting through to the know out round, only Dortmund are slightly favored because so far they have collected 7 points, Dortmund only need 1 more win to ensure they qualify for the round of 16.

And for AC Miln, PSG and Newcastle have the same possibility of qualifying, and this is really very difficult to predict because all of these teams have equal quality.

Yes Borussia Dortmund do have a greater chance of qualifying, but that does not mean it will be a guarantee for them to be able to really qualify. Other clubs will try their best to thwart anyone who has a chance of qualifying to win.
Speaking of Newcastle, they are the youngest club in this grup, or you could say they are newcomers to the Chmpions League, but I am impressed because even though their experience is not as good as the other 3 clubs, they can provide a strong competition. Although now they are the club that is at the bottom of the table.

Quote from: baeva on November 12, 2023, 03:28:54 PM

It's even hard for me to guess which team will drop out of the tournament altogether and which team will go to the Europa League. At the moment it looks like any of the 4 teams in Group F could end up in 3rd or 4th place. None of the teams even have an uninterrupted positive momentum, each team has already suffered a defeat

I don't think it's just you that finds it difficult to predict who will qualify, who will go to the Europa League and who will have to go home early, everyone will have the same thoughts about predicting this group.
Who can answer is themselves, I mean in the last 2 matches who will show something extraordinary, they will be able to qualify from this difficult group. Oh yes, also don't forget about luck, because it could be a factor that will determine their fate whether they can qualify or even be eliminated.

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Not only did they lose Rafael Leao but AC Milan also had to lose Olivier Giroud in the next few matches because of the red card he received.
These two players could cause Milan big loss because these two players have become the key to Milan strength and in the match against Dortmund there may be series of pressures experienced by Milan.

Stefano Pioli had to rack his brains by using several ways to use other players to fill the void left by Rafael Leao and Olivier Giroud.
Now there will only be squad with limited players, in fact I not sure Milan can have maximum results in the match against Dortmund.

But the match against Dortmund is still at the end of the month so there is chance that Stefano Pioli will have quite long time to prepare everything.

Losing Rafael Leao must be a big hit to the team and to the squad because he is one of the best players of that team if not for the best player, but they lost Giroud to red card as well which means that he is going to miss the next game as well. I do not know what they are going to do, because next game they are going to play is Fiorentina, who may not be as good as they used to be, but not a team to striffle with neither, they are still pretty decent and could end up with an upset.

I think Milan needs to bring in all the rest of the players and do a proper training to rest them, there are ways to make the players rest better at the club and feel better, then just let them sit at home, because most of these million dollar players do not actually "rest" when left alone, but when you bring them to the club they are forced to rest, and massaged and basically all around relax. They need to put 100% in order to get the win without a doubt.

In the future, they have two matches this month and it is certain that these two players will not be able to play for AC Milan, whereas in these two matches the opponents will be Fiorentina in Serie A and Dortmund in the UCL.
Indeed, Fiorentina is not dangerous team, but they have produced enough wins to occupy 6th place with 20 points.
This match is threat for Milan because there is possibility that Fiorentina can take advantage of the absence of two great Milan players to beat them and improve their standings by getting full points in this match.
Likewise with the UCL which is definitely an opportunity for Dortmund to win and be far above in Group F.

Until now, we don't know what Milan will do to face these two matches without their mainstay players.
But this is heavy pressure for Milan in this season, which is still relatively early.

For the UCL itself, the three teams Dortmund, PSG and AC Milan have relatively small difference in points and there will be fierce competition for safe positions.

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At the moment, is becoming clear that Manchester City will still take the trophy in that season and the reason being that, the club have been on a run up in all measure matches since the last 9games and that to a large extent is going to tell have the club performance is going to be in the next few matches to come, this is what we have to look out for in whatever discussion we have and at whatever time.

Even though there have been a few pockets of decline in performance in the last few days, it still seems that Manchester still maintains the most formidable team and also can deliver at each of their matches.

Manchester City may be your favorite club but they are not exactly invisible this season like they were before. This is the champions league we are talking about, it’s not a farmers league. I think it is still early to call Manchester City favorites to win the trophy because there are other top teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich who also record one hundred percent success rate in the champions league.

This will not be business as usual for Manchester City in this season, although Manchester City has done extremely well in the last few seasons and that is something that we have to commend them for, because os not easy for a club to sustain and maintained an steady winning across all leagues for multiple seasons just like Manchester city did in the last two seasons.

But this time, things have changed, and Manchester City may be going in for a long period of head-tight confrontation with some of the other stronger teams who may have suffered set back in the last few seasons to warrant Manchester City's success in those past seasons, but at this point, those clubs have recovered and there are really good and ready to take Manchester city head on and possibly dropping them out of the award in this season in all things being equal for those clubs.

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