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Quote from: Richbased on November 11, 2023, 08:09:00 PM

Tipping Manchester city, Real Madrid and Bayern munich as the possible UEFA Champions league winners isn't bad I mean over the years, these aforementioned clubs have really dominated the champions league but I see some turn around this time.
Currently the clubs are in good form and looks like teams that wouldn't be defeated except they meet each other but believe this is football as history are meant to be broken so I foresee a weaker team surprising the bigger clubs in this season champions league trophy.

Even though it is possible for weaker teams to surprise the big clubs this season, everyone will definitely be waiting more for the big clubs to compete with clubs whose strengths are not much different. This season could be fiercer than last season, because the strengths of each team have improved and have opportunities that are not much different if we look at it now. Although the surprise that comes from a small team cannot be denied by every fan.

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Quote from: bbigtart on November 12, 2023, 04:39:01 AM

Barcelona is no longer on the list of those considered and favored in the Champions League, because there are no Messi and Neymar, they are considered a team that does not have the winning mentality in the UCL League.

If you look at what has happened to Barcelona in recent seasons, your statement can be said to be true, that when their star players were no longer at the club, Barcelona began to experience decline and in fact this was also caused by mistakes in managing the club so that Barcelona had a lot of debt, so Barcelona couldn't afford it to regenerate players on time because the key to a club continuing to perform well is regenerating players so that they can produce new stars.
Real Madrid is also no longer with their stars but without financial constraints, they can buy players and now these new players will have the opportunity to become new stars, so it is difficult for Barcelona to compete in the Champions League not entirely because there are no more Neymar and Messi there but also the management's inability manage the club well, but will Barcelona also be a weak team this season in the champions league? It doesn't seem as weak as imagined, just competing to get further will be quite difficult.

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Quote from: asriloni on November 11, 2023, 07:55:39 PM

The strongest candidate to win the trophy along with real madrid and bayern munich. I don't really see any other strong candidates besides these clubs. City, Madrid, and Bayern are the favorites to win the trophy this season, proving that this is not a farmer league. My reason is caused by there have been major improvements that happened in the club. It will be so good to see city face a strong club in the next stage. Manchester city may still try to continue the result from the previous season as city was perfectly winning the trophy. Pep is trying so hard to keep city in the same track this time. There are no lots of change happened in the club. City is still 90% with the same players like the previous seasons.

I lean more towards Man City potentially facing Bayern Munich in the Final. These two deserve to meet and it will definitely be a very hot final match. I actually have high hopes for Madrid, but judging from the limited players, especially pure strikers, Madrid will have difficulty achieving this in the UCL this season. I know it is very common for us to label Madrid as having a winning mentality, winning the most trophies and so on. However, there is little big competition this season which will be the difference because the presence of a core striker who is hungry for goals is really needed to continue to lead a competition as big as the UCL.

Seeing that Bayern Munich already has Kane and other players who are very solid in attack, Man City only needs Kevin de Bruyne to return to the main squad, but currently there are options like Doku who continues to rise rapidly under the control of Pep Guardiola. Therefore, the strongest candidates who are most suitable for the final are Man City and Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 11, 2023, 11:59:46 PM

Quote from: Richbased on November 11, 2023, 08:09:00 PM

Quote from: asriloni on November 11, 2023, 07:55:39 PM

The strongest candidate to win the trophy along with real madrid and bayern munich. I don't really see any other strong candidates besides these clubs. City, Madrid, and Bayern are the favorites to win the trophy this season, proving that this is not a farmer league. My reason is caused by there have been major improvements that happened in the club. It will be so good to see city face a strong club in the next stage. Manchester city may still try to continue the result from the previous season as city was perfectly winning the trophy. Pep is trying so hard to keep city in the same track this time. There are no lots of change happened in the club. City is still 90% with the same players like the previous seasons.

Tipping Manchester city, Real Madrid and Bayern munich as the possible UEFA Champions league winners isn't bad I mean over the years, these aforementioned clubs have really dominated the champions league but I see some turn around this time.
Currently the clubs are in good form and looks like teams that wouldn't be defeated except they meet each other but believe this is football as history are meant to be broken so I foresee a weaker team surprising the bigger clubs in this season champions league trophy.

Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich are considered to be the most consistent and strongest teams in the Champions League this season. Although Real Madrid have some weaknesses in attack, Ancelotti continues to try his best to fix these weaknesses. And because of this, Real Madrid's performance is still very consistent. On the other hand Bayern Munich team is very strong. And I would say Munich have the strongest squad in the Champions League. Manchester City midfield is a bit weak. However, due to Guardiola's excellent match tactics, we are getting good performances from this team in every match. I personally don't see Barcelona as favorites for the Champions League anymore. The performance of this team is very erratic.

of the several teams you mentioned that have a fairly perfect line up for me at the moment Bayern Munich but it will not guarantee to win the title in the UCL and even though Real Madrid has weaknesses in the attack line but look Madrid is very perfect with the players they currently have when Bellingham is able to play the role of striker in Madrid and just imagine if Madrid were able to bring in a great striker it would definitely be perfect.
and for Man City I agree with your statement in the midfield there is a slight decline in performance unlike last season and this is not a difficult situation for Guardiola because the transfer market will reopen to be able to get the best players to strengthen the midfield.

for now, Barcelona may have to accept the fact that they dont really expect to get a title in the UCL because in terms of players, perhaps the talent they have is not strong enough to compete in the UCL and my only hope is that Barcelona will focus on La Liga and improve its finances to quickly recover its finances and be able to win more talented players to chase the title at UCL again.

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Quote from: asriloni on November 11, 2023, 07:55:39 PM

The strongest candidate to win the trophy along with real madrid and bayern munich. I don't really see any other strong candidates besides these clubs. City, Madrid, and Bayern are the favorites to win the trophy this season, proving that this is not a farmer league. My reason is caused by there have been major improvements that happened in the club. It will be so good to see city face a strong club in the next stage. Manchester city may still try to continue the result from the previous season as city was perfectly winning the trophy. Pep is trying so hard to keep city in the same track this time. There are no lots of change happened in the club. City is still 90% with the same players like the previous seasons.

In my opinion, Real Madrid is always the favorite to win the UCL League every year, but if Man City's performance remains consistent then they will always compete with Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, even though they play in the farmers' league, they have a chance. good history in the UCL and their mentality is indeed strong, especially since the arrival of Harry Kane, even so, if Bayern Munich met the teams above earlier, they would not have won. In my opinion, the strongest predictions for the UCL League champions this season are Real Madrid, second, Man City, third, Bayer Munich.

Barcelona is no longer on the list of those considered and favored in the Champions League, because there are no Messi and Neymar, they are considered a team that does not have the winning mentality in the UCL League.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 11, 2023, 06:08:08 PM

Group F must be the most complicated group now though. Because there is only one point gap between all the teams. Anything can happen on the remaining game weeks. Even PSG can find themselves out of the Champions League if they don't make up for that Milan loss. As Milan couldn't score until this game most people must have thought PSG would win here.
But it is plain logic of course. I didn't like that. I considered PSG's away performance at the same time. The Newcastle game came to my mind and I was confident about both teams to score and over 2.5 goals at the same time.

This group was very to predict when we saw a good performance from PSG I think this team got a good chance to finish this stage at the first place in the table and this is reason to say Enrique is safe in PSG but the problems are about the second team and I think the chance for Ac MIlan is higher than Newcastle because Ac MIlan was more stable and they had better performance than Newcastle so far in this season.

We have never seen a better performance than Milan in the Champions League. I think Milan are probably more worried about Serie A matches this season. They are less interested in Champions League matches. However, so far both Milan and Newcastle are likely to qualify for the round of 16. I considered PSG as the favorite in Group F. But PSG's qualification for the round of 16 has now become uncertain after losing two matches. PSG will need to win their next match against Newcastle and avenge their previous humiliating defeat.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on November 11, 2023, 06:08:08 PM

Group F must be the most complicated group now though. Because there is only one point gap between all the teams. Anything can happen on the remaining game weeks. Even PSG can find themselves out of the Champions League if they don't make up for that Milan loss. As Milan couldn't score until this game most people must have thought PSG would win here.

But it is plain logic of course. I didn't like that. I considered PSG's away performance at the same time. The Newcastle game came to my mind and I was confident about both teams to score and over 2.5 goals at the same time.

This group was very to predict when we saw a good performance from PSG I think this team got a good chance to finish this stage at the first place in the table and this is reason to say Enrique is safe in PSG but the problems are about the second team and I think the chance for Ac MIlan is higher than Newcastle because Ac MIlan was more stable and they had better performance than Newcastle so far in this season.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on November 11, 2023, 11:59:46 PM

Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich are considered to be the most consistent and strongest teams in the Champions League this season. Although Real Madrid have some weaknesses in attack, Ancelotti continues to try his best to fix these weaknesses. And because of this, Real Madrid's performance is still very consistent. On the other hand Bayern Munich team is very strong. And I would say Munich have the strongest squad in the Champions League. Manchester City midfield is a bit weak. However, due to Guardiola's excellent match tactics, we are getting good performances from this team in every match. I personally don't see Barcelona as favorites for the Champions League anymore. The performance of this team is very erratic.

These three club are indeed the stronger candidate in the Champions League, not only this season but also the previous season, but if you look at it, it seem that Manchester City is trying hard to winner the Champions League title again this season like the previous season. We can not be sure which of the three club will win most deserved to wins the title because these three clubs are still performing strongs this season in the Champions League and have not suffered defeat so far.

Barcelona is not a strong candidate because its performance has not been completely stable so far, but Barcelona is still fighting hard for it, and is trying to get the best position in the Champions League even though it is not a strongst candidate to winner the title.

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Quote from: Richbased on November 11, 2023, 08:09:00 PM

Quote from: asriloni on November 11, 2023, 07:55:39 PM

The strongest candidate to win the trophy along with real madrid and bayern munich. I don't really see any other strong candidates besides these clubs. City, Madrid, and Bayern are the favorites to win the trophy this season, proving that this is not a farmer league. My reason is caused by there have been major improvements that happened in the club. It will be so good to see city face a strong club in the next stage. Manchester city may still try to continue the result from the previous season as city was perfectly winning the trophy. Pep is trying so hard to keep city in the same track this time. There are no lots of change happened in the club. City is still 90% with the same players like the previous seasons.

Tipping Manchester city, Real Madrid and Bayern munich as the possible UEFA Champions league winners isn't bad I mean over the years, these aforementioned clubs have really dominated the champions league but I see some turn around this time.
Currently the clubs are in good form and looks like teams that wouldn't be defeated except they meet each other but believe this is football as history are meant to be broken so I foresee a weaker team surprising the bigger clubs in this season champions league trophy.

Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich are considered to be the most consistent and strongest teams in the Champions League this season. Although Real Madrid have some weaknesses in attack, Ancelotti continues to try his best to fix these weaknesses. And because of this, Real Madrid's performance is still very consistent. On the other hand Bayern Munich team is very strong. And I would say Munich have the strongest squad in the Champions League. Manchester City midfield is a bit weak. However, due to Guardiola's excellent match tactics, we are getting good performances from this team in every match. I personally don't see Barcelona as favorites for the Champions League anymore. The performance of this team is very erratic.

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Rafael Leão the palayer of AC MIlan got injured while playing for his team in the Serie A against Lecce.
He got injured in the game between Lecce and AC Milan just eight minutes after the start of the game and he couldn't continue the match.
Now there is a chance for Leão to be absent in the game AC Milan is going to have against Dortmund.

Milan wasted opportunities to win and failed to defend well, the match was a draw, and the biggest loss was that Pioli lost Rafael Leao in that match. Losing Leao in Milan's main squad is absolutely like losing ¼ of their attack power, because after all he is the main part of Milan attack this season.

Dortmund will be very comfortable when facing the Rossoneri without having full strength, even though I also know that the German club is fearless against its opponents. But this time it made things a little easier for their defense without Leao, so they were at an advantage.

But on the other hand, I still hope that the injury is not serious, so that in the match between Dortmund versus Milan we will have a fierce game because both clubs are playing with intact squads.

The mina players are being so wasteful. I don't know what's wrong with acmilan but this club is playing so terrible against lecce. The club said nothing happened but the fact if milan's defenders are always performing so poorly. Like they were in the mentality crisis which is not good for me to be honest. Seeing milan was getting draw against lecce made me feel milan cannot get into the knock out round of UCL. The defenders are so weak and they lose what they have shown at the early season.
Everything about milan is still uncertain. Im doubting milan to win against dortmund and newcastle if this club is still playing like shit.

The draw against lecce was unacceptable since milan is still in the process to build its confidence again. Milan is once again showing the inconsistentcy of club.
This club seems lack of commitment from any of its players.

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Milan wasted opportunities to win and failed to defend well, the match was a draw, and the biggest loss was that Pioli lost Rafael Leao in that match. Losing Leao in Milan's main squad is absolutely like losing ¼ of their attack power, because after all he is the main part of Milan attack this season.

Dortmund will be very comfortable when facing the Rossoneri without having full strength, even though I also know that the German club is fearless against its opponents. But this time it made things a little easier for their defense without Leao, so they were at an advantage.

But on the other hand, I still hope that the injury is not serious, so that in the match between Dortmund versus Milan we will have a fierce game because both clubs are playing with intact squads.

Not only did they lose Rafael Leao but AC Milan also had to lose Olivier Giroud in the next few matches because of the red card he received.
These two players could cause Milan big loss because these two players have become the key to Milan strength and in the match against Dortmund there may be series of pressures experienced by Milan.

Stefano Pioli had to rack his brains by using several ways to use other players to fill the void left by Rafael Leao and Olivier Giroud.
Now there will only be squad with limited players, in fact I not sure Milan can have maximum results in the match against Dortmund.

But the match against Dortmund is still at the end of the month so there is chance that Stefano Pioli will have quite long time to prepare everything.

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Quote from: marcous on November 11, 2023, 06:56:51 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 11, 2023, 06:39:45 PM

Rafael Leão the palayer of AC MIlan got injured while playing for his team in the Serie A against Lecce.
He got injured in the game between Lecce and AC Milan just eight minutes after the start of the game and he couldn't continue the match.
Now there is a chance for Leão to be absent in the game AC Milan is going to have against Dortmund.

Milan wasted opportunities to win and failed to defend well, the match was a draw, and the biggest loss was that Pioli lost Rafael Leao in that match. Losing Leao in Milan's main squad is absolutely like losing ¼ of their attack power, because after all he is the main part of Milan attack this season.

Dortmund will be very comfortable when facing the Rossoneri without having full strength, even though I also know that the German club is fearless against its opponents. But this time it made things a little easier for their defense without Leao, so they were at an advantage.

But on the other hand, I still hope that the injury is not serious, so that in the match between Dortmund versus Milan we will have a fierce game because both clubs are playing with intact squads.

Milan will really be in a difficult situation if the injuries suffered by Rafael Leao and Davide Calabria become more serious. But it looks like the injuries suffered by Rafael Leao and Davide Calabria will not be more serious. But still they definitely had to rest for a while. But I'm pretty sure they will both return to play against Dortmund in the next 2 weeks. But if Rafael Leao hasn't recovered by then or if the results of the medical examination show that it is a serious injury, then Dortmund will really benefit. And I don't like how a match goes with one of the teams playing not at their full strength.

Apart from that, Milan also has a tough match next week in Serie A, namely against Fiorentina. I think Milan really has to be able to look after their players so they can avoid potential injuries. Don't let them experience the same thing as last season. Well, last season Milan experienced a slight setback when their players suffered injuries. Luckily last season there were no serious injuries. And hopefully this season will be the same.

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Quote from: asriloni on November 11, 2023, 07:55:39 PM

The strongest candidate to win the trophy along with real madrid and bayern munich. I don't really see any other strong candidates besides these clubs. City, Madrid, and Bayern are the favorites to win the trophy this season, proving that this is not a farmer league. My reason is caused by there have been major improvements that happened in the club. It will be so good to see city face a strong club in the next stage. Manchester city may still try to continue the result from the previous season as city was perfectly winning the trophy. Pep is trying so hard to keep city in the same track this time. There are no lots of change happened in the club. City is still 90% with the same players like the previous seasons.

Tipping Manchester city, Real Madrid and Bayern munich as the possible UEFA Champions league winners isn't bad I mean over the years, these aforementioned clubs have really dominated the champions league but I see some turn around this time.
Currently the clubs are in good form and looks like teams that wouldn't be defeated except they meet each other but believe this is football as history are meant to be broken so I foresee a weaker team surprising the bigger clubs in this season champions league trophy.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on November 11, 2023, 03:32:57 PM

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At the moment, is becoming clear that Manchester City will still take the trophy in that season and the reason being that, the club have been on a run up in all measure matches since the last 9games and that to a large extent is going to tell have the club performance is going to be in the next few matches to come, this is what we have to look out for in whatever discussion we have and at whatever time.

Even though there have been a few pockets of decline in performance in the last few days, it still seems that Manchester still maintains the most formidable team and also can deliver at each of their matches.

Manchester City may be your favorite club but they are not exactly invisible this season like they were before. This is the champions league we are talking about, it’s not a farmers league. I think it is still early to call Manchester City favorites to win the trophy because there are other top teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich who also record one hundred percent success rate in the champions league.

The strongest candidate to win the trophy along with real madrid and bayern munich. I don't really see any other strong candidates besides these clubs. City, Madrid, and Bayern are the favorites to win the trophy this season, proving that this is not a farmer league. My reason is caused by there have been major improvements that happened in the club. It will be so good to see city face a strong club in the next stage. Manchester city may still try to continue the result from the previous season as city was perfectly winning the trophy. Pep is trying so hard to keep city in the same track this time. There are no lots of change happened in the club. City is still 90% with the same players like the previous seasons.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 11, 2023, 06:39:45 PM

Rafael Leão the palayer of AC MIlan got injured while playing for his team in the Serie A against Lecce.
He got injured in the game between Lecce and AC Milan just eight minutes after the start of the game and he couldn't continue the match.
Now there is a chance for Leão to be absent in the game AC Milan is going to have against Dortmund.

Milan wasted opportunities to win and failed to defend well, the match was a draw, and the biggest loss was that Pioli lost Rafael Leao in that match. Losing Leao in Milan's main squad is absolutely like losing ¼ of their attack power, because after all he is the main part of Milan attack this season.

Dortmund will be very comfortable when facing the Rossoneri without having full strength, even though I also know that the German club is fearless against its opponents. But this time it made things a little easier for their defense without Leao, so they were at an advantage.

But on the other hand, I still hope that the injury is not serious, so that in the match between Dortmund versus Milan we will have a fierce game because both clubs are playing with intact squads.

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Rafael Leão the palayer of AC MIlan got injured while playing for his team in the Serie A against Lecce.
He got injured in the game between Lecce and AC Milan just eight minutes after the start of the game and he couldn't continue the match.
Now there is a chance for Leão to be absent in the game AC Milan is going to have against Dortmund.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 11, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

It was an important win for Arsenal against Sevilla last week. Because obviously this win has put Arsenal in a much better position in the group. There are still 2 more matches to go but I don't think Arsenal will lose their lead. Their performance against Sevilla was rock solid. It was a really one-sided deserved win and Arsenal needed this kind of a win as well.

Because I think Arsenal haven't been performing very impressive in the English Premier League so far. This kind of performances would motivate them for more. But it is difficult to predict how far they can go here for now.

With this win now their spot at the top in this group is already fixed with others have to fight for the second spot with Lens could be dropped in next match as they are going to play at the emirates which is not good place for them and Sevilla is going to host PSV where we will have good game between these two clubs and winner could be having good advantage for the second spot even last group game is also having good twist with PSV will host Arsenal and Lens will be host Sevilla mean we will have all three teams in good intention but with current form and quality I am feeling PSV will be able to go through and Sevilla will be stayed into Europa Cup and Lens will be out of the event with their good performance but still things can take good change in any game.

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Group F must be the most complicated group now though. Because there is only one point gap between all the teams. Anything can happen on the remaining game weeks. Even PSG can find themselves out of the Champions League if they don't make up for that Milan loss. As Milan couldn't score until this game most people must have thought PSG would win here.

But it is plain logic of course. I didn't like that. I considered PSG's away performance at the same time. The Newcastle game came to my mind and I was confident about both teams to score and over 2.5 goals at the same time.

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I believe PSG and Dortmund will qualify from Group F since they have been performing well this season, and I do not believe Newcastle can overcome PSG at home because they are currently performing well and the only team they will prepare for is Dortmund. I can say they can perform poorly in their matches at times, and they will face AC Milan in their next match in the Champions League, I think Dortmund or AC Milan will qualify to the next round.

Athletico Madrid will qualify from group E, but the rest cannot be predicted because Lazio and Feyenoord are playing well, and Lazio have a tough game tomorrow against Roma in the league, and everyone knows Arsenal and PSV will qualify Because Lens are not performing well like last season and Psv are in great position this season they are topping there league table, apart from Athletico Madrid I don't think the rest are better than psv in the group stage and group E Barcelona and Porto because since Pepe comes back they are strong again and they can defeat Shakhtar Donetsk because they are playing at home and they won't make any mistakes to lose against them.

Every team that qualify for the UEFA Champions League is a champion because it's not easy to be included in the top four. UEFA Champions League competition is the best tournament so far in the past decades because it's built only for Champions and not some random competitive average clubs. You're giving us your opinions regarding the team's that will qualify from their perspective UCL groups and the ones that will dropped. You're forgetting something, this is football and it comes with surprising results and we have no options than to accept them.

There is a battle for the first two places in the group in the Champions League. The tightest group is group F. This group, referred to by many as the death group, had great surprise results. Dortmund, which was last in the group before the last two matches, suddenly became the leader with 2 wins against Newcastle. It's really hard to predict that group.

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Quote from: CLS63 on November 11, 2023, 05:25:02 PM

It was an important win for Arsenal against Sevilla last week. Because obviously this win has put Arsenal in a much better position in the group. There are still 2 more matches to go but I don't think Arsenal will lose their lead. Their performance against Sevilla was rock solid. It was a really one-sided deserved win and Arsenal needed this kind of a win as well.

Because I think Arsenal haven't been performing very impressive in the English Premier League so far. This kind of performances would motivate them for more. But it is difficult to predict how far they can go here for now.

I would say that for Arsenal the qualification is now guaranteed, it will be enough to win against Lens in the next match to be qualified as first in the standings or if Arsenal - Lens ended in a draw they would still be qualified but not sure of remaining first in the standings. so for them the important thing is not to lose the next match, they have the strength to be able to beat Lens and that would make their fans happy

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