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November 11, 2023, 11:43:37 AM

Group F is indeed the hell group in the Champions League this season and the competition between these 4 teams will continue in the remaining two matches. I really appreciate Dortmund and Milan because these two teams had lost their opportunities before but now they are able to rise to improve their position in Group F standings. Apart from that, I think PSG and Newcastle have lost control of what they had previously produced so they have to fight again to can advance to the next round. The next match for these 4 teams will still be very tough and maybe we all cannot predict which teams will qualify for the next round considering that everyone still has the same chance.

These clubs have the same chances. The next matches probably the final match for dortmund. Dortmund will be qualifying for the next stage as long as it will able to beat its opponent. I think that if we will also see another match in the group F will be determining the second place as well.
The upcoming match day will be very important matchday for any club. It's caused by the club that will be winning the upcoming game will be very close to the next stage.

My prediction if dortmund and acmilan will be going to the next stage.
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November 11, 2023, 11:11:16 AM
Milan started to rise by the crucial win against PSG in San Siro. They really needed that to increase their chance to move on in the Champions League. However the points are too close to each other anyway. Even Dortmund and PSG are in a position that they can finish as 3rd and 4th in Group F.  Grin

For the next match week my predictions are like these:

PSG would beat Newcastle in Parc des Princes and have their revenge at the same time. They are playing home matches much better than away ones.

I think that Milan can beat Dortmund in San Siro also. Dortmund would be a quite challenging opponent though. But still Milan can get another close win such as 1-0 or 2-1.
I do not have any predictions on who will win, but I can easily say that we have no clue which team will be first and which team will be second. The amount of talent in that group alone could be very good, most of the teams in that group could be better ranked in some other group, better than most other players, it's a true death group and some good team will be sent off being fourth. Think about it, in a group with Dortmund, Milan, PSG and Newcastle, someone has to be fourth and that's the important part of it.

I agree that it's not going to be that easy, but it is going to be something that is mathematically a must, in a group with four teams, one must be fourth. None of the teams deserve that but one has to be there. The third at least has a chance at europa, they will try their best and do as good as they possibly could, even though europa has some good teams too, they are going to definitely try to be as good as they possibly could in the long run.
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November 11, 2023, 10:35:02 AM
Dortmund have very tough opponents in their next two matches. PSG and Milan are experienced teams in the Champions League. And it will be very difficult for Dortmund to win against these two teams. However, Milan's performance is now somewhat erratic. If Dortmund can beat Milan they will qualify for the next round.

On the other hand, nothing can be predicted about PSG's performance. However, if PSG is able to avenge their previous defeat against Newcastle, it will be easier for PSG to qualify for the knockout rounds as well. But so far every team has potential to do well. I look forward to seeing PSG's performance in the home match against Newcastle. It remains to be seen whether PSG can avenge their earlier humiliating defeat.
Milan or PSG are indeed part of the experienced teams in the UCL, but we must not forget that Dortmund is also part of the experienced clubs in the UCL, so the opportunity to qualify from this round is very big and to compete against Milan, it will most likely be a little difficult to beat Milan because this team has a fairly strong defense in the UCL and on the one hand the attack line led Giroud will definitely have very good results when competing at home.

but when playing against PSG, even though you have an opinion, PSG still does not have clarity in terms of consistency, but the opportunity to get 3 points is greater for Dortmund, who will compete at home to avenge their defeat at that time and of course the candidate in group F is stronger, Dortmund or PSG.

I am very doubtful about the performance that Dortmund is going to show in the upcoming matches. Because I don't think we will actually see them performing well enough. My prediction is that they are going to show a pretty average performance. So far they have been inconsistent and I do not expect them to improve anytime soon. So I am not going to be surprised if I actually even see them losing all the matches that they are going to play in the Champions League, to be honest. And it is definitely hard to trust them.
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November 11, 2023, 10:31:29 AM
Group F is indeed the hell group in the Champions League this season and the competition between these 4 teams will continue in the remaining two matches. I really appreciate Dortmund and Milan because these two teams had lost their opportunities before but now they are able to rise to improve their position in Group F standings. Apart from that, I think PSG and Newcastle have lost control of what they had previously produced so they have to fight again to can advance to the next round. The next match for these 4 teams will still be very tough and maybe we all cannot predict which teams will qualify for the next round considering that everyone still has the same chance.
With only 3 points separating the top and bottom of the table, it will be a race that will continue until all the group stage matches are played. It is honestly very difficult to predict who will be able to qualify from this group F. The reason is that almost all clubs have the ability to be able to turn things around in the remaining 2 matches.
So it is appropriate if this group is said to be a group of hell. Other groups already have their representatives, although they are still looking for one more position because in some groups there is still competition between 2 clubs or even 3 clubs.
Who do you think will qualify?
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November 11, 2023, 10:13:39 AM
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It seems to me it is quite likely PSG will beat Newcastle on their own stadium, and if that is the case the key here will be the result of the match between Milan and Dortmund, If Dortmund wins then it is over and PSG and Dortmund will move to the next round, if there is a tie then Dortmund could probably move to the next round with another tie against PSG due to their goal differential, and if Milan wins then they will still need to get a win over Newcastle, but it should not be that difficult as at that point Newcastle should be eliminated already and will have no chance to advance to the next round or to move to the Europa league.
For me the worst scenario is that PSG and Newcastle are eliminated here, and that is not very good considering the attributes they have should be a guarantee that they can qualify from the group stage. Furthermore, if you look at the next two matches, overall the four clubs have the ambition to beat each other. Even though Dortmund currently have the most points in group F, I still doubt they will qualify, even though I really understand that this is all just prejudice. Because we know that among the 8 groups here, group F is the most difficult to predict.
Dortmund or Milan are the most likely choices to qualify from this round and of course you know that of the 4 clubs in this group, Milan and Dortmund have more experience, even though PSG has mainstay players, the fact is that in the past few seasons they have always failed.
Next, Newcastle is actually a very worthy club to qualify with pretty good players, but I am not at all ready to continue to the next round because in terms of page numbers it is the same as PSG so I agree with you that PSG and Newcastle will most likely not qualify for this round.
It is true that in terms of experience AC Milan and Dortmund are better than PSG and Newcastle, this creates a difference in mentality between the four clubs in Group F. If this really happens, then PSG and Newcastle will suffer greatly and lament their fate. But before that, we will of course first see how the domestic matches of the four clubs in their respective leagues are going. Because, this will more or less have an impact on the match on matchday 5. On the other hand, if PSG fails, it will make Mbappe leave the club faster, maybe the January transfer market could be the right option.
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November 11, 2023, 09:55:35 AM
I am more inclined to believe that it will be Milan.
They, like no one else, deserve to leave the group.
Let's be honest - all the other opponents simply slipped through the matches, either due to luck or the stars became so that they had an equal number of points.
Dormund simply went through all the games like clockwork.
PSG - I don’t see it as an option, but I’ll just keep quiet about Newcastle.
There are only two teams that will qualify for the next round and the four teams in Group F are still quite likely with the condition that Dortmund and PSG suffered defeat in the fifth match while AC Milan and Newcastle could win the match. Of course this is not an easy scenario that can be run by AC Milan or Newcastle, but in football there is nothing impossible when they are able to see opportunities to win the match.

Newcastle has a good capital when entertaining PSG because in the first leg won with a large score, while AC Milan might be a little heavier because in the first leg drew when facing Dortmund. Even so, I put confidence in PSG and AC Milan who will qualify for the next round because mentally and the experience of the two teams is far more prepared.
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November 11, 2023, 09:08:24 AM


Group F is indeed the hell group in the Champions League this season and the competition between these 4 teams will continue in the remaining two matches. I really appreciate Dortmund and Milan because these two teams had lost their opportunities before but now they are able to rise to improve their position in Group F standings. Apart from that, I think PSG and Newcastle have lost control of what they had previously produced so they have to fight again to can advance to the next round. The next match for these 4 teams will still be very tough and maybe we all cannot predict which teams will qualify for the next round considering that everyone still has the same chance.
Agree with you that they switched positions, and this is what we call real competition, Hell competition in the group phase. This is a group that must be avoided if you want to bet on their matches, because it will be very difficult to predict considering that the four clubs are very ambitious to qualify for the last 16. I think PSG will be superior in the next two matches, when they face Newcastle and Dortmund. I hope that can happen, and they need to show the power of money to work, what's the point of having expensive players in the squad if they can't do much.

Dortmund leads the top of the standings overshadowed by PSG and Milan, if Milan manages to win their meeting, I am very sure that in the last match Dortmund will also lose points to PSG. These are some of the scenarios that could possibly happen, but who knows, luck will favor Newcastle, who are currently in the bottom position in the standings.
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November 11, 2023, 08:59:27 AM
Pep Guardiola always likes to improve his goal. After his successes last season, he wants to experience the same successes again and achieve this repeatedly. If it was any other man I would say it would be difficult but since it is Pep Guardiola it is possible.

I would also like to see Pep Guardiola in charge of a national team. It is easier to be successful in clubs than in national teams, but it is not easy to be successful in the national team. Pep Guardiola can set himself this goal.
It will not be easy for anyone to repeat the same success this season in the Champions League, because all teams always learn from the mistakes they have made in the past so this season each team has also made very important changes to each of their respective lines of players. I also don't doubt Pep Guardiola's intelligence in terms of training players, but when it comes to the Champions League trophy, this is something that should not be taken lightly because every player who competes in the Champions League will continue to strive to get better.

Since the last two decades, only Real Madrid can win Champion League Trophy back to back season. Champions League competition need more Mentality factor than other competitions. we remember Mancity every season since Guardiola were always a favorite team to win Champions League, but only last season, They succeeded. this is a proof that mentality is a strong factor.

but I wont surprise if Mancity win again this season, because their mentality is having a massive upgrade, and Guardiola knows every factor he needs when it comes to winning trophies. The drop off Madrid's, Barcelona's and Bayern's quality are also another factor for mancity to win it again this season.
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November 11, 2023, 08:42:07 AM


Group F is indeed the hell group in the Champions League this season and the competition between these 4 teams will continue in the remaining two matches. I really appreciate Dortmund and Milan because these two teams had lost their opportunities before but now they are able to rise to improve their position in Group F standings. Apart from that, I think PSG and Newcastle have lost control of what they had previously produced so they have to fight again to can advance to the next round. The next match for these 4 teams will still be very tough and maybe we all cannot predict which teams will qualify for the next round considering that everyone still has the same chance.
The competitive contest in group F becomes more tougher as these four teams share closer points together. Borrusia Dortmund topping first with 7 points, Paris Saint-Germain with 6 points, AC Milan with 5 points and then we have Newcastle United with 4 points. As it stands, every one of these teams have full potentials to qualify for the next round, also the exact same energy hitting up from these teams, two will qualify and the other two will dropped, that's how the system operates. I'm looking forward to see Dortmund and PSG qualify, they're my favorite in group F and have the strength to represent well against other clubs.
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November 11, 2023, 08:28:12 AM
I am more inclined to believe that it will be Milan.
They, like no one else, deserve to leave the group.
Let's be honest - all the other opponents simply slipped through the matches, either due to luck or the stars became so that they had an equal number of points.
Dormund simply went through all the games like clockwork.
PSG - I don’t see it as an option, but I’ll just keep quiet about Newcastle.
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November 11, 2023, 08:21:13 AM

2 matches remain and it is quite a difficult match for Dortmund, currently Milan is trying hard to get through to the round of 16, Milan has a big advantage because they are playing at home and in the previous match Dortmund and Milan both did not score goals and the match ended in a goalless draw, I think in the next match Milan will give more resistance and try to beat Dortmund at the San Siro stadium.

If PSG previously beat Dortmund at home, I think Dortmund will avenge that defeat when they host PSG because currently Dortmund is in high confidence after beating Newcastle twice.
In fact, in group F, all teams can still catch each other with a small difference in points, so that every match will always be utilized well and as much as possible minimize carelessness. Both PSG, Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle are almost difficult to predict. However, if one of the 4 clubs is able to emerge as group winners, their mentality in the UCL will be even more mature. Even though they have experience, Milan cannot underestimate Dortmund, who are now starting to refuse to give up what they have fought for when facing Newcastle.
We may be get a shocking result from this group. All of clubs are still having possibilities to pass the group stage. It makes the situation is far harder to predict. Newcastle and acmilan are not in the good shapes at this moment. Milan got a better result after it was beating PSG but this does mean milan can win in upcoming game easily. It is proving to be a difficult task to ascertain the outcome from this particular group. The upcoming match will be milan - dortmund, PSG - newcastle. It is an arduous task to forecast the victorious team for the upcoming game, and my disappointment deepens as I witness Newcastle's performance.
This club is performing so poorly. Newcastle is now the worst in the club. All of clubs in this group has only 1 point gap difference. It makes the standing can change anytime. I think that the competition will be very strict until the last matchday.

It seems PSG and dortmund will be winning the upcoming games. In order for Dortmund's club to secure a victory in this group, it is crucial that they emerge victorious in the upcoming game.
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November 11, 2023, 08:17:51 AM


Group F is indeed the hell group in the Champions League this season and the competition between these 4 teams will continue in the remaining two matches. I really appreciate Dortmund and Milan because these two teams had lost their opportunities before but now they are able to rise to improve their position in Group F standings. Apart from that, I think PSG and Newcastle have lost control of what they had previously produced so they have to fight again to can advance to the next round. The next match for these 4 teams will still be very tough and maybe we all cannot predict which teams will qualify for the next round considering that everyone still has the same chance.
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November 11, 2023, 08:06:35 AM

2 matches remain and it is quite a difficult match for Dortmund, currently Milan is trying hard to get through to the round of 16, Milan has a big advantage because they are playing at home and in the previous match Dortmund and Milan both did not score goals and the match ended in a goalless draw, I think in the next match Milan will give more resistance and try to beat Dortmund at the San Siro stadium.

If PSG previously beat Dortmund at home, I think Dortmund will avenge that defeat when they host PSG because currently Dortmund is in high confidence after beating Newcastle twice.
In fact, in group F, all teams can still catch each other with a small difference in points, so that every match will always be utilized well and as much as possible minimize carelessness. Both PSG, Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle are almost difficult to predict. However, if one of the 4 clubs is able to emerge as group winners, their mentality in the UCL will be even more mature. Even though they have experience, Milan cannot underestimate Dortmund, who are now starting to refuse to give up what they have fought for when facing Newcastle.
The chances for the four clubs are still relatively the same, apart from qualifying, they also have the same chance of failing, because the competition is really tight in Group F. Newcastle is the team with the most difficult position in the standings, but that doesn't mean PSG and AC Milan can underestimate them in the next two remaining matches. Of course, the slightest mistake they make will change their fate, whether they play in the European League or fail miserably. On the other hand, almost the same competition also occurs in group E, although the intensity of the competition gives little room to ATM. But I still see Lazio and Feyenoord as direct threats for ATM, even though Diego Simeone's squad has not been defeated in the previous 4 matches.
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November 11, 2023, 08:05:34 AM
Every team in Group F is equally strong. There is no way to say that any particular group is more powerful. This is why Group F has become so competitive. It is not yet possible to say which two teams will qualify for the next round.

Dortmund are in good form after beating Newcastle in their last two matches. The top spot in the table is now occupied by Dortmund. PSG on the other hand lost two and won two. PSG will play their last two games against Newcastle and Dortmund. PSG lost their first match against Newcastle by a big margin. And so it cannot be said that PSG will win the match in the second leg.

AC Milan will play against Newcastle and Dortmund. In the first leg matches against Newcastle and Dortmund, the Milan side drew goalless against both these teams. So it cannot be said for sure whether they will win in the second leg match. So far, all four teams have a chance to qualify for the next round. Even bottom-of-the-table Newcastle have a chance.
Group F, Group E, Group B and Group H. We still cannot determine which 2 teams will actually qualify from the group stage. However, only Group F still provides the opportunity for the 4 clubs in it to qualify for the next stage. If Milan loses against PSG, perhaps this will ensure that Milan will not qualify for the next stage. But because Milan was able to win surprisingly against PSG. So this means that Milan still has a chance. Even Newcastle still has a chance. The remaining 2 matches will really be very hot matches in Group F. Because the 4 clubs will still be fighting to qualify.

But I'm really looking forward to Newcastle facing PSG again. Will they still produce good results like at the first meeting a few weeks ago or will this time be different. I think the match will be really, really fierce. But if PSG loses. I think their club's self-esteem will really fall. Because PSG actually has the best players in their team. Even PSG currently has the fastest striker.
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November 11, 2023, 07:58:05 AM
Group F which is called group of death is getting even more interesting day by day. After Milan defeated PSG in San Siro things got even more complicated in the group. There is only one point between each team right now. I actually had the possibility of Milan's doing this to PSG in my mind. Because we have all seen how bad PSG have been in away matches.

They lost even with a bigger score against Newcastle. I mean that Milan didn't even have a goal scored until this match. PSG kind of helped them do even more than that.

The remaining 2 weeks are going to be quite interesting in this group. I think PSG would beat Newcastle home but I'm not so sure about the away match against Dortmund.  Sad

I'm supporting the motion of Paris Saint Germans winning and beating Newcastle at home during the next fixture but you see the game against Borrussia Dortmund will sure be hell. They've met five times if you go see them last meetings and Borrussia Dortmund has accumulated more points at home. They drew one and won the other. I'm not sure PSG would go home easily with all three points.

The Milan lose was mind blowing, I was so sure of PSG winning but Newcastle showed class and zeal to get that winning.

That Group is hell!  After winning Paris Saint Germans at home, can they do that with the next two games? PSG has been inconsistent even with Luis Enrique who has Champions League experience.

This group is really something. The competition is incredible. The teams are also solid. Right now Dortmund is at the top of the group. But I honestly do not know which team is actually going to stay at the top of the table, to be honest. As we have already said differences in terms of points are almost non-existent.  All the teams are very close in terms of points. All the teams in this group have only one point of difference between the team that is above them.

PSG has been inconsistent, but I still think that they will be able to finish in the top two from this group. I actually have doubts about Dortmund.

Parisians might be inconsistent with how they've performed lately not just that, but with how they have kicked off the new season with the appointment of Luis Enrique as head coach.
The table tougher than we think even though we expected some difficulties. My tow picks to get qualified have to be Borrussia Dortmund and Paris Saint Germans.

Paris Saint Germans have a good coach that'll guide them out. Borrussia Dortmund at the top now, if they can get four points from the two games left, then they can successfully jump out of this group.
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November 11, 2023, 07:42:05 AM
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It seems to me it is quite likely PSG will beat Newcastle on their own stadium, and if that is the case the key here will be the result of the match between Milan and Dortmund, If Dortmund wins then it is over and PSG and Dortmund will move to the next round, if there is a tie then Dortmund could probably move to the next round with another tie against PSG due to their goal differential, and if Milan wins then they will still need to get a win over Newcastle, but it should not be that difficult as at that point Newcastle should be eliminated already and will have no chance to advance to the next round or to move to the Europa league.
For me the worst scenario is that PSG and Newcastle are eliminated here, and that is not very good considering the attributes they have should be a guarantee that they can qualify from the group stage. Furthermore, if you look at the next two matches, overall the four clubs have the ambition to beat each other. Even though Dortmund currently have the most points in group F, I still doubt they will qualify, even though I really understand that this is all just prejudice. Because we know that among the 8 groups here, group F is the most difficult to predict.
Dortmund or Milan are the most likely choices to qualify from this round and of course you know that of the 4 clubs in this group, Milan and Dortmund have more experience, even though PSG has mainstay players, the fact is that in the past few seasons they have always failed.
Next, Newcastle is actually a very worthy club to qualify with pretty good players, but I am not at all ready to continue to the next round because in terms of page numbers it is the same as PSG so I agree with you that PSG and Newcastle will most likely not qualify for this round.
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November 11, 2023, 07:33:50 AM
Dortmund have very tough opponents in their next two matches. PSG and Milan are experienced teams in the Champions League. And it will be very difficult for Dortmund to win against these two teams. However, Milan's performance is now somewhat erratic. If Dortmund can beat Milan they will qualify for the next round.
It's time for dortmund to do revenge against PSG. Dortmund was getting draw against acmilan in the last match and i think picking double chance for this match is pretty good choice.
PSG is still becoming the main threat for dortmund caused by PSG was beating dortmund 2-0 in the previous game. Although the upcoming game is expected to work in Dortmund's favor, their inconsistency raises doubts about whether they will fully capitalize on the advantage.


On the other hand, nothing can be predicted about PSG's performance. However, if PSG is able to avenge their previous defeat against Newcastle, it will be easier for PSG to qualify for the knockout rounds as well. But so far every team has potential to do well. I look forward to seeing PSG's performance in the home match against Newcastle. It remains to be seen whether PSG can avenge their earlier humiliating defeat.
PSG is a bit harder to be dortmund's opponent compared with acmilan. Acmilan was lucky enough to win against PSG in the previous match but it doesn't mean acmilan will perform so well for the second time.
Anything can happen during the game but mostly of people are likely to betting on the PSG instead of dortmund.

PSG vs dortmund = PSG

Acmilan vs dortmund = dortmund.
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November 11, 2023, 07:17:06 AM

2 matches remain and it is quite a difficult match for Dortmund, currently Milan is trying hard to get through to the round of 16, Milan has a big advantage because they are playing at home and in the previous match Dortmund and Milan both did not score goals and the match ended in a goalless draw, I think in the next match Milan will give more resistance and try to beat Dortmund at the San Siro stadium.

If PSG previously beat Dortmund at home, I think Dortmund will avenge that defeat when they host PSG because currently Dortmund is in high confidence after beating Newcastle twice.
In fact, in group F, all teams can still catch each other with a small difference in points, so that every match will always be utilized well and as much as possible minimize carelessness. Both PSG, Dortmund, Milan and Newcastle are almost difficult to predict. However, if one of the 4 clubs is able to emerge as group winners, their mentality in the UCL will be even more mature. Even though they have experience, Milan cannot underestimate Dortmund, who are now starting to refuse to give up what they have fought for when facing Newcastle.
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November 11, 2023, 06:35:20 AM
Though Bayern Munich's last two wins against Galatasaray in the UEFA Champions League competition hasn't wasn't too convincing, but we mustn't shy away from the fact that Bayern Munich were the better side in those the fixtures. As a top club, they're smaller clubs that are very difficult to beat whenever you face them but the ability to be able to steal a win from them no matter how poor your performance is what really makes you big club.
We've seen the general performance of Bayern Munich this season and can confess to the fact that they've been absolutely impressive and would definitely have a good season if they continue to with their current performance

I can agree with you on that Bayern Munich must be thankful for their being a very experienced team on one hand. If it weren't for that feature of them I can't imagine how their condition would be in Group A now. However experience helps you until a point. After that you need to put more effort into your games to be competitive for the CL title as I said.

For example with this effort level Bayern Munich can be eliminated by a team like Manchester City without big problems. The team effort should be more consistent otherwise Kane's great scoring skills wouldn't be enough.

we must also take into account that Galatasaray is not exactly a small team, they have excellent players and Icardi who is a real predator in the penalty area, Bayern Munich won through suffering but against an excellent team
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November 11, 2023, 06:15:17 AM
Though Bayern Munich's last two wins against Galatasaray in the UEFA Champions League competition hasn't wasn't too convincing, but we mustn't shy away from the fact that Bayern Munich were the better side in those the fixtures. As a top club, they're smaller clubs that are very difficult to beat whenever you face them but the ability to be able to steal a win from them no matter how poor your performance is what really makes you big club.
We've seen the general performance of Bayern Munich this season and can confess to the fact that they've been absolutely impressive and would definitely have a good season if they continue to with their current performance

I can agree with you on that Bayern Munich must be thankful for their being a very experienced team on one hand. If it weren't for that feature of them I can't imagine how their condition would be in Group A now. However experience helps you until a point. After that you need to put more effort into your games to be competitive for the CL title as I said.

For example with this effort level Bayern Munich can be eliminated by a team like Manchester City without big problems. The team effort should be more consistent otherwise Kane's great scoring skills wouldn't be enough.
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