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November 10, 2023, 06:38:17 PM
Missing points against Copenhagen is surely a big mistake. It is the weakest team in group A. Now, the remaining matches will be harder than the previous match. I also don't see a big chance for Man United to win in the next 2 matches. Against Galatasaray and Bayern Munich, they are probably defeated. Moreover, if Man United players still play underperformance. I even think that Galatasaray and Bayern Munich will win against Man United with big scores. Honestly, it is sad to see the current condition of Man United, they seems have no good progress in this competition. Ten Hag didn't manage Man United in a proper way.


Manchester united are now nowhere when it comes to rating English teams in UEFA Champions League competition this season. They're in group A and I essentially expects outstanding results from them only if it's not too late. We should stop pointing fingers ag Erik Ten Hag because he's not joking but means serious business, he has done an excellent job but it's just that his best is not good enough to take the Red Devils to next level. Manchester united screwed useful opportunities to top up their points on the table when they will record thrilled winnings against their opponents but reverse was the case. 
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November 10, 2023, 06:32:19 PM
Why haven't M.United fired Erik ten Hag yet? Is there no other manager? I don't understand the purpose of the M.United management.

I definitely don't think they can win against Bayern and Galatasaray.
I also don't think Manchester United would be able to beat Bayern and Galatasaray, thus they already have one foot out of the CL, and elimination from the CL would be a disaster for the club. Last season they thought they were making progress and now this season they are taking 10 steps backward; it is a bad feeling for the club and anyone associated with them.

Having said that, i'm pretty sure Erik Ten Hag would be sacked sooner or later, the club are prolly tired of hiring and firing managers, but if things continue to become worse, they'll have no choice but to fire him and hire a new manager, whom i don't think will also succeed.
I agree with you on this, if Erik Ten Hag continues to get poor results in his matches and does not qualify Manchester United in the last 16 of the UEFA Champions League I think he will be sacked by Manchester United owners. I think Erik Ten Hag should give Sancho playing time since he lacks players, and look for a replacement for Anthony Santos because since this season Anthony has not been a productive player, is either Anthony passing the ball to his half. Anthony is not playing like a $100 million player and Erik Ten Hag keeps on selecting him in every match of Manchester United .
Many good players were criticizing him right now. Even berbatov said that if antony was doing something useless regarding when he was playing football. Berbatov has urged him to stop doing stupid things.
He was just ruining his career in manchester united. Antony was not zidane or ronaldinho but he is always doing stupid things like 360 spin which is useless and clueless.
This player shall have stopped to do that caused by it was only giving bad impression to his gameplay in the field. People are seeing it as stupid things but antony keeps did it.
Many people are only laughing on his useless technique.
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November 10, 2023, 06:11:44 PM
Given how the game went for them against Copenhagen, I think there isn't much hope left for them. They lost the game and they also lost Rashford who will be suspended because of his red card. Winning against Galatasaray is tough when you can't win against Copenhagen in Denmark. They are still not 100% out of the Champions League, but they are making so many mistakes during the games, giving away this 2-0 lead due to a fatal decision made by Rashford. Ten Hag is going crazy I suppose, but there isn't much he can do now in that short period of time.
Missing points against Copenhagen is surely a big mistake. It is the weakest team in group A. Now, the remaining matches will be harder than the previous match. I also don't see a big chance for Man United to win in the next 2 matches. Against Galatasaray and Bayern Munich, they are probably defeated. Moreover, if Man United players still play underperformance. I even think that Galatasaray and Bayern Munich will win against Man United with big scores. Honestly, it is sad to see the current condition of Man United, they seems have no good progress in this competition. Ten Hag didn't manage Man United in a proper way.

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November 10, 2023, 06:05:27 PM
Group A is pretty complicated now. Bayern Munich have already guaranteed qualifying for last 16 as the leader though. But the competition is really tough between the rest of the teams. Copenhagen have improved their morale quite highly. Turkish people are expecting Galatasaray to be as successful as possible here this season.

Honestly they should be able to make it to last 16 in this situation. Because obviously Galatasaray's effort is higher than Copenhagen and Manchester United both. But when it comes to scoring productivity Copenhagen were really amazing recently. If Galatasaray solve their finishing problems they can still beat both of them.
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November 10, 2023, 05:41:26 PM
Why haven't M.United fired Erik ten Hag yet? Is there no other manager? I don't understand the purpose of the M.United management.

I definitely don't think they can win against Bayern and Galatasaray.
I also don't think Manchester United would be able to beat Bayern and Galatasaray, thus they already have one foot out of the CL, and elimination from the CL would be a disaster for the club. Last season they thought they were making progress and now this season they are taking 10 steps backward; it is a bad feeling for the club and anyone associated with them.

Having said that, i'm pretty sure Erik Ten Hag would be sacked sooner or later, the club are prolly tired of hiring and firing managers, but if things continue to become worse, they'll have no choice but to fire him and hire a new manager, whom i don't think will also succeed.
I agree with you on this, if Erik Ten Hag continues to get poor results in his matches and does not qualify Manchester United in the last 16 of the UEFA Champions League I think he will be sacked by Manchester United owners. I think Erik Ten Hag should give Sancho playing time since he lacks players, and look for a replacement for Anthony Santos because since this season Anthony has not been a productive player, is either Anthony passing the ball to his half. Anthony is not playing like a $100 million player and Erik Ten Hag keeps on selecting him in every match of Manchester United .
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November 10, 2023, 05:28:53 PM
I'm not so sure about Milan to lose to Dortmund in San Siro to be honest. Because they have gained some momentum finally by the important win against PSG in San Siro. These 2 goals were the first ones Milan scored in the group as well. However I think these goals will motivate them to be better at finishing in the remaining matches.

I must admit that Dortmund have been the best team at defending here so far. They conceded only 2 goals which were both against PSG. But I don't know if they can show the same away performance against Milan as they had against Newcastle before.

As a reminder Newcastle wasted many goal opportunities in that match as well.

One thing that people ought not to forget so easily is football records and history as most times the record some of these Teams keeps also reflect in their current matches. Now AC milan has the second highest champions league trophy so far, and AC milan is one of the best and competitive team in Serie A, though Dortmund has also been in an impressive form both in the German Bundesliga and the champions league as well but since they still stand at a reliable position in their on group, i think AC milan will be the ones to be much anxious of winning Dortmund in other to boost their chances of qualifying for the round of 16. So AC Milan match with Borussia Dortmund is one of the toughest match of the champions league. So let's wait in anticipation of the outcome of the result in their next match.
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November 10, 2023, 05:08:24 PM
Manchester United lost 4-3 to Copenhagen, I don't think their morale is good at all, they are in the last place in the group. We can say that Galatasaray is better in terms of play, even if it has a cheaper squad.
Yeah of course Galatasaray is far better than Manchester United in times of performance this season, because the way Manchester United are performing i don't think they have plans on going far on any of the league this season because there last 13 matches has been very poor imagine a club playing 13 matches and won only 6 and lose 8 matches that's a very poor performance.

So perhaps we can never compare Manchester United performance to Galatasaray because there last meeting was very tough on Manchester United because Galatasaray was more in a good form than Manchester so they won Manchester United, however also checking based on the statistics of Galatasaray last 13 matches they have won 10 out of 13, so perhaps this is what determines a team with a good performance.
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November 10, 2023, 05:03:11 PM
Pep Guardiola always likes to improve his goal. After his successes last season, he wants to experience the same successes again and achieve this repeatedly. If it was any other man I would say it would be difficult but since it is Pep Guardiola it is possible.

I would also like to see Pep Guardiola in charge of a national team. It is easier to be successful in clubs than in national teams, but it is not easy to be successful in the national team. Pep Guardiola can set himself this goal.
Pep Guardiola performance is quite good in coaching the team, especially since he has been part of success with Manchester City and also 2 other teams before. I don't think he will think about coaching the national team in the near future because he looks so comfortable coaching the team for now. Pep Guardiola strength, which may be quite impressive, is none other than because he is always able to produce stars in the team he manages. I think Pep Guardiola wants to give Manchester City lots of titles this season, he wants to repeat the great success achieved in the previous season. I think Manchester City, with their consistency in the Champions League, makes them very favorites to win the UCL trophy this season.
You should pit into consideration that Champions league is not EPL, that Manchester City is a local champion on. The champion league comprises of the best clubs and I don't think that it will be east this time for Manchester City to win it the back to back. Don't forget that we still have the league favorite in the competitions with other clubs that were not strong last season but now they are strong. I am talking about clubs like Bayern Munich, I don't think that it will be easy for City to win it since if there is any slight mistake, the trophy can slip away from your hands. I am not underestimating Pep and his men but football is full of surprises.
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November 10, 2023, 04:46:39 PM
Pep Guardiola always likes to improve his goal. After his successes last season, he wants to experience the same successes again and achieve this repeatedly. If it was any other man I would say it would be difficult but since it is Pep Guardiola it is possible.

I would also like to see Pep Guardiola in charge of a national team. It is easier to be successful in clubs than in national teams, but it is not easy to be successful in the national team. Pep Guardiola can set himself this goal.
Pep Guardiola performance is quite good in coaching the team, especially since he has been part of success with Manchester City and also 2 other teams before. I don't think he will think about coaching the national team in the near future because he looks so comfortable coaching the team for now. Pep Guardiola strength, which may be quite impressive, is none other than because he is always able to produce stars in the team he manages. I think Pep Guardiola wants to give Manchester City lots of titles this season, he wants to repeat the great success achieved in the previous season. I think Manchester City, with their consistency in the Champions League, makes them very favorites to win the UCL trophy this season.

In the Premier League, Manchester City performance has also returned to winning ways and they managed to lead the standings this week. I think in the Premier League it will be quite difficult for other team to break Manchester City dominance. Arsenal and Liverpool have not been consistent enough in their performance so Manchester City can always take advantage of gaps when other team are unstable in their performance.
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November 10, 2023, 04:46:00 PM
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I'm not a Manchester United fan, but I too think Copenhagen look at least better, and they proved that yesterday. It's already worth recognising that Manchester United are hardly capable of playing in the Champions League. After their defeat I even doubt they even have a chance to qualify for the Europa League, they are playing very badly. That they will concede in the last minutes I understood yesterday when the score was still in MU's favour. They are not able to keep the score down and control the game lately

I think it's very difficult to control the pressure when you only have 10 players on the pitch. Manchester United have not been good in defense this season and they have paid dearly for that. Ten Hag and the whole team are responsible for the bad result even when they had a big chance to secure the match with a win.

I don't care what will happen to Manchester United in the next two matches because I don't think they are worthy of competing higher in the Champions League this season. Even if Manchester United qualify for the round of 16 by any means, they will only fail there without having much chance of qualifying for the quarter-finals. Everything is uncertain, they have a chance even though currently the chance is very low.

Yeah, I don't think it makes sense for them to get out of the group either, besides it's already impossible for them, obviously this isn't their last defeat in the group. I thought about the Europa League, that they could prove themselves there and reach at least the semi-finals, but I realise that even that is an impossible task for them.
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November 10, 2023, 04:40:51 PM
We beat Manchester United at Old Trafford and we can do it again in Istanbul. I believe in that. But I am very sorry that we didn't get points in both games against Bayern Munich, even despite playing very well. If we had taken 1 point from Bayern Munich, we could have made the group more complicated. I believe that we will go to the next round after finishing 2nd in this group. But the two games we played against Bayern Munich made me sad. It is a sad thing that we were so close to getting points from Bayern Munich and we couldn't do it.
Sure, Galatasaray should be able to win Manchester United in the second leg of the match. Manchester United is playing nothing this season, out of 4 matches played, they lost 3 matches, and they were able to win just one match. I won’t be surprised if Galatasaray ends up winning Manchester United. As we can see, the Manchester United team looks horrible, and I am expecting any club to be able to win them now.
 
Your group looks competitive already, just that no club can compete with Bayern Munich, which is currently in first place, other clubs, including Galatasaray, are fighting for second place and even third place. We all know that the first position belongs to Bayern Munich, but we can’t say who will be taking the second position yet, so I can say 3 clubs are still looking for 2nd place.
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November 10, 2023, 04:27:16 PM
Pep Guardiola always likes to improve his goal. After his successes last season, he wants to experience the same successes again and achieve this repeatedly. If it was any other man I would say it would be difficult but since it is Pep Guardiola it is possible.
We really understand how ambitious but realistic Pep Guardiola is. Because of that, he always tries his best in sometimes brilliant ways to bring his team to always be at the forefront. Man City's success last season made him rise again and he is believed to be a professional and experienced coach. And of course this season, Pep also certainly has quite a heavy burden, namely defending the UCL title and hopefully being at Man City again. And not only that, Pep certainly wants his players to also score more goals in every match. Because scoring more and more goals at UCL also provides an achievement in itself. If one of his students becomes a top scorer again, wouldn't this also be a proud struggle and achievement, especially in a UCL class, right? What's more, this is UCL, where Man City was the UCL title holder last season. So of course Pep also wants to present his best performance with the team this season, hoping to defend the UCL title and surpass last season's goal tally.
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November 10, 2023, 04:17:54 PM
In the fifth matchday match, I'm pretty sure Dortmund will be able to overcome Milan even though the match will be held at the San Siro. I wonder, what if Dortmund was able to win the match, what would happen to Milan. Well, I think there is a big burden on Pioli's shoulders to overcome Borussia Dortmund later. Moreover, this match will be watched by Rossoneri fans at their headquarters.

Meanwhile, Terzic will prepare strategies and ways to understand AC Milan's style of play. This match will be an exciting and interesting fight. Dortmund will be more careful, but every attack they build has a more effective level of danger than Milan. well, this is just my personal opinion and assumption.

As for PSG, it seems we agree that they have a higher probability of overthrowing Newcastle in the next meeting. and if so, that means Eddie Howe's squad has no chance of qualifying even if they win the match against Milan later. let's just calculate the difference in points between these four teams, and the fifth matchday will be the deciding factor. which means, if PSG wins against Newcastle and Dortmund beats Milan. These two teams have the right to advance to the next phase. btw, correct me if I analyzed it wrong.

I'm not so sure about Milan to lose to Dortmund in San Siro to be honest. Because they have gained some momentum finally by the important win against PSG in San Siro. These 2 goals were the first ones Milan scored in the group as well. However I think these goals will motivate them to be better at finishing in the remaining matches.

I must admit that Dortmund have been the best team at defending here so far. They conceded only 2 goals which were both against PSG. But I don't know if they can show the same away performance against Milan as they had against Newcastle before.

As a reminder Newcastle wasted many goal opportunities in that match as well.
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November 10, 2023, 04:03:50 PM

There are eight groups in the Champions League which are very interesting to discuss on their journey to qualify for the round of 16, but group A is in first place because there is Manchester United. We all certainly understand the scenario for United to qualify from the group phase, and it is indeed a little more complicated than before. Galatasaray have already beaten United at Old Trafford, however they will try their best to win for the second time, and make Ten Hag and his team suffer and cry over their fate.

On paper United are actually superior in many ways, but the mentality of Ten Hag squad is now full of question marks, due to the series of bad results they have obtained. So I'm not favoring United when they visit Turkey this time, I am surprised that Copenhagen is in the runner up position now, even though previously they were not at all considered to be superior.
Manchester United are one very top team in England not just on paper but in terms of past glories, them having just 3 points out of 4 outings in their group is very worrisome. Ten Hag has a lot of job on his hands because the team is going down the drail and out of most competitions, they've already been kicked out of the Caraboa Cup which they're the defending  champions which is very bad.

ETH has a lot to do if he wants to scale through the champions league group stage, currently bookers will give Galatasaray the better odds to defeat Manchester United because Galatasaray needs this win also, Erik Ten Hag has a lot to do on both team spirit and team's tactics, Let's see how things go in the coming week for this derailing Manchester United side.
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November 10, 2023, 03:32:52 PM
Pep Guardiola's ultimate goal was to win the Champions League title. Because it was the only big target they couldn't achieve until the previous season. Guardiola finally reached his target in that season. Now I'm just wondering how much longer he will continue to do his job at Manchester City.

The reason why I'm wondering this is that I remember a statement made by him in the past. It was indicating that he would think of leaving Manchester City in the near future.

But for a long time I haven't heard such saying from him. Even though they won the Champions League title as well he still looks determined to go for more.  Smiley

They got so close and lost to Real Madrid. I must say pain, loses and failures are also good for one to accept. You have to be a beautiful loser at times before you finally win.
I was happy he was winning the treble only sad he did it with Manchester City  Grin. Aside Manchester United, they're now the other club in the Premier League to have joined Manchester United in doing same.

Congratulations to him, he should turn the Premier League to a famers league successfully if he eventually wins the Premier League once again. Lol.
He has plans winning the treble once more this year, that would be difficult but not impossible to achieve. It's Pep Guardiola off course. ( The Perfectionists )

I'd love to see him managing the Spanish National Team or The England National Team. Which ever country he represents will have a chance of winning the next FIFA World Cup Competition.

Pep Guardiola always likes to improve his goal. After his successes last season, he wants to experience the same successes again and achieve this repeatedly. If it was any other man I would say it would be difficult but since it is Pep Guardiola it is possible.

I would also like to see Pep Guardiola in charge of a national team. It is easier to be successful in clubs than in national teams, but it is not easy to be successful in the national team. Pep Guardiola can set himself this goal.
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November 10, 2023, 03:23:31 PM
Manchester United still have a chance to qualify for the knockout rounds if they win against Galatasaray. Kenna Copenhagen and Galatasaray got 4 points and Manchester United got 3 points. So the Manchester United team can go to the next round if they win the next two matches. But the problem is that Manchester United will play their last match against Bayern Munich. And now it is difficult for United to beat a strong team like Munich. This is why Galatasaray is now considered the favourite for second place in the table.
Manchester United opportunity qualify depend on the winning two matches later against Galatasaray and Bayern Munich beside they have waiting with Copenhagen matches result. Current standings they have remaining one points from realistic target as qualify with finish on second standings position if next match take three points from Galatasaray opponent and another match Bayern Munich defeated Copenhagen. Its will be excited but still not guarantee if the scenario or result above is true depend last match Manchester United have face Bayern Munich on last match.

Seems have favorite for Galatasaray qualify in Group A with Bayern Munich depend their matches left against Manchester United and Copenhagen, if can win next match from United will make it easily to next round and make United will eliminate from Champion League.
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November 10, 2023, 02:50:21 PM
Pep Guardiola's ultimate goal was to win the Champions League title. Because it was the only big target they couldn't achieve until the previous season. Guardiola finally reached his target in that season. Now I'm just wondering how much longer he will continue to do his job at Manchester City.

The reason why I'm wondering this is that I remember a statement made by him in the past. It was indicating that he would think of leaving Manchester City in the near future.

But for a long time I haven't heard such saying from him. Even though they won the Champions League title as well he still looks determined to go for more.  Smiley

They got so close and lost to Real Madrid. I must say pain, loses and failures are also good for one to accept. You have to be a beautiful loser at times before you finally win.
I was happy he was winning the treble only sad he did it with Manchester City  Grin. Aside Manchester United, they're now the other club in the Premier League to have joined Manchester United in doing same.

Congratulations to him, he should turn the Premier League to a famers league successfully if he eventually wins the Premier League once again. Lol.
He has plans winning the treble once more this year, that would be difficult but not impossible to achieve. It's Pep Guardiola off course. ( The Perfectionists )

I'd love to see him managing the Spanish National Team or The England National Team. Which ever country he represents will have a chance of winning the next FIFA World Cup Competition.
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November 10, 2023, 02:30:11 PM
There are no better hopes for Manchester United in their current condition in the Champions League, because Galatasaray will continue to exert their abilities to get second place in the group standings to ensure they qualify for the next round. Moreover, Galatasaray is also quite aware that Manchester United's condition is not in good condition so Galatasaray will continue to take advantage of this in the next match because Galatasaray has the same number of points as Copenhagen in the current group standings.
Copenhagen, Galatasaray and Bayern Munich, united have lost against all these clubs. Manchester United gave everyone hope and didn't come through when everyone expected them to triggered winning results. One thing Erik Ten Hag must know is the relenting efforts from his players, underperforming weigh below their expectations. Manchester united messed up big time, the second leg against Copenhagen was supposed to be a winning game but  they screwed up everything. The Red Devils will be looking for a must win in UCL next game because that's the only way to stay put for the purpose to qualify for next round.
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November 10, 2023, 02:11:55 PM
There are no better hopes for Manchester United in their current condition in the Champions League, because Galatasaray will continue to exert their abilities to get second place in the group standings to ensure they qualify for the next round. Moreover, Galatasaray is also quite aware that Manchester United's condition is not in good condition so Galatasaray will continue to take advantage of this in the next match because Galatasaray has the same number of points as Copenhagen in the current group standings.
Manchester United have become the team that any team can bully in the competition. All their opponents understand their current weakness and vulnerability and are taking advantage of it, so they have confidence that even if Manchester United score first, they can still loose the game because they are very bad defending their goals. Manchester United do not deserve to qualify to the next round of the competition, they will waste the chance if they somehow find a way to make it through with Bayern.
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November 10, 2023, 02:08:07 PM
Checking the current situation of Galatasaray and Manchester United that's to say Galatasaray got a good chance to be the second team of this group going to the next stage because Manchester United is not in a good situation at all and they are not in a good form have beat a team like Galatasaray.
There are no better hopes for Manchester United in their current condition in the Champions League, because Galatasaray will continue to exert their abilities to get second place in the group standings to ensure they qualify for the next round. Moreover, Galatasaray is also quite aware that Manchester United's condition is not in good condition so Galatasaray will continue to take advantage of this in the next match because Galatasaray has the same number of points as Copenhagen in the current group standings.

Manchester United still have a chance to qualify for the knockout rounds if they win against Galatasaray. Kenna Copenhagen and Galatasaray got 4 points and Manchester United got 3 points. So the Manchester United team can go to the next round if they win the next two matches. But the problem is that Manchester United will play their last match against Bayern Munich. And now it is difficult for United to beat a strong team like Munich. This is why Galatasaray is now considered the favourite for second place in the table.
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