After Real Madrid qualified to the champions league final,and they heard it's Dortmund they will be facing ,I know they will be very happy, because they will think they can just over ride Dortmund and win them without stress,but if they should have this kind of mentality,then they must be joking because Dortmund is more dangerous than PSG and Bayern.Dortmund have a very solid defence,and their defence is even more solid than that of Madrid's own,this will be an advantage to Dortmund. Because they have the ability to defend a goal till the game ends,While Madrid's defence is not that solid.
Dortmund is not an easy team to deal with. The last time they faced each other was in 2017. There were two matches in 2017 in Champion's League, Real Madrid beat Dortmund in both of them but more previous matches were draw and in 2014 Dortmund beat Real Madrid. I think these stats aren't good indicators today because 7 years have passed and teams look very different with different players but now this is the final, very important match for both teams but more important for Dortmund because Dortmund have only won the Champions League once, in 1997 while Real Madrid won it many times. In 1 June, Dortmund will have to chance it for the second time and for the first time in 21th century. I think they'll be more motivated to win compared to Real Madrid but if coaches favour them, then there is nothing we can do to stop them from winning. I hope the game will be fair and not like we saw it against Bayern Munich. I hope Dortmund wins the UCL.
Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season - page 92. (Read 141700 times)
Atletico Madrid is a strong team, but Dortmund was able to beat them in the semifinals. The atmosphere of the Champions League final will make both teams equally under pressure, a balance of support from visitors is also expected so that both teams will fight for their fate without taking sides.
Real Madrid have a lot of final experience, they are the kings of the Champions League title, but who will guarantee that they win it this season?
Even if Real Madrid's chances are very high, the risk of defeat is still there and it should not be ignored. It is not always possible for Real Madrid to maintain its finals record by winning the title, it is possible to see Real Madrid succumb to other teams from a probability point of view.
For me, if you look at the two teams between Dortmund and Real Madrid, of course their journey to get to the final was quite difficult because Dortmund had quite tough opponents from the group phase to the semifinals. Likewise with Real Madrid, they had quite strong opponents but they managed to beat all their opponents. In the final round, of course both teams will play better than what they have shown. For Real Madrid, they have the mentality and have many players who are quality enough so that they will be quite the favorite to win the UCL trophy.Real Madrid have a lot of final experience, they are the kings of the Champions League title, but who will guarantee that they win it this season?
Even if Real Madrid's chances are very high, the risk of defeat is still there and it should not be ignored. It is not always possible for Real Madrid to maintain its finals record by winning the title, it is possible to see Real Madrid succumb to other teams from a probability point of view.
With Dortmund impressive performance in the Champions League, it is clear that Real Madrid must play more carefully because Dortmund wants to aim for a trophy for the second time in the Champions League. For Dortmund they have reached the final 3 times and in the final this season they will face a team that is strong enough so they have to have a neat strategy to beat Real Madrid.
After Real Madrid qualified to the champions league final,and they heard it's Dortmund they will be facing ,I know they will be very happy, because they will think they can just over ride Dortmund and win them without stress,but if they should have this kind of mentality,then they must be joking because Dortmund is more dangerous than PSG and Bayern.Dortmund have a very solid defence,and their defence is even more solid than that of Madrid's own,this will be an advantage to Dortmund. Because they have the ability to defend a goal till the game ends,While Madrid's defence is not that solid.
Dortmund is not an easy team to deal with. The last time they faced each other was in 2017. There were two matches in 2017 in Champion's League, Real Madrid beat Dortmund in both of them but more previous matches were draw and in 2014 Dortmund beat Real Madrid. I think these stats aren't good indicators today because 7 years have passed and teams look very different with different players but now this is the final, very important match for both teams but more important for Dortmund because Dortmund have only won the Champions League once, in 1997 while Real Madrid won it many times. In 1 June, Dortmund will have to chance it for the second time and for the first time in 21th century. I think they'll be more motivated to win compared to Real Madrid but if coaches favour them, then there is nothing we can do to stop them from winning. I hope the game will be fair and not like we saw it against Bayern Munich. I hope Dortmund wins the UCL. 
Bellingham ghosted in the semi final to be honest, if he doesn’t play well in the final he shouldn’t be anywhere near Ballon d’Or, the biggest players turn up in the biggest games.
Real always seem to find a way to win even when they are not favourites. It’s clear they are not the best team in Europe but here they are again, in the final. Neuer made an awful mistake and the whole tie swung in Real’s favour.
I will be supporting Dortmund in the final, it would be such an amazing achievement if they win it, whereas with Real this is just business.
Real always seem to find a way to win even when they are not favourites. It’s clear they are not the best team in Europe but here they are again, in the final. Neuer made an awful mistake and the whole tie swung in Real’s favour.
I will be supporting Dortmund in the final, it would be such an amazing achievement if they win it, whereas with Real this is just business.
They are the best team in the world, so calling them the best team in Europe would be technically incorrect (although the meaning will not change since Europe is number 1 in football).
But I understand that you doubt Real Madrid? May I suggest that you think City are stronger than them (or anyone else)? The strength of the team is determined by the results: in the confrontation between Real and City, which can be said to have lasted for 3 years in a row, Real won a convincing victory, the overall score was 2-1
The chances of victory are greater for Real Madrid because they have experience, good squad strength both in the domestic league and the big league, they are much more consistent from the matches they have played this season, some analysts are more doubtful about Dortmund because they are not so experienced in the Champion league and they are not consistent in the Bundes league, of course this is one of the parameters that can be assessed, besides that, the popularity of Real Madrid is much greater than Dortmund, so there must be more who make it the favorite team, as well as Real Madrid players have many popular players, not the same as Dortmund players, so it is very reasonable to consider Dortmund a team that is still Under Dog.
By analysis and feeling I am also more inclined to Real Madrid to win the champions league trophy this season, to hell with all the possibilities that Dortmund has a chance to show itself in the final later, if they can beat Real Madrid, it will be a Dortmund boom to become one of the popular players this season.
By analysis and feeling I am also more inclined to Real Madrid to win the champions league trophy this season, to hell with all the possibilities that Dortmund has a chance to show itself in the final later, if they can beat Real Madrid, it will be a Dortmund boom to become one of the popular players this season.
Real Madrid have devoted most of their time for this champions league to the extent that even at some point when they had serious challenges they still overcame and move forward like the match they played against Manchester city, that match was more like a final because the both teams literally were the strongest in the champions league but still they were able to eliminate Manchester city. Now when they met Bayern Munich they almost lost hope if not for the late minutes goals that was scored by Joselu that made them reach the final stage of the champions league.
Real Madrid have really made a lot of commitment for this champions league so it will be very bad if after all their efforts and resilience they were unable to lift the trophy so they will surely fight till the end so they won't give Borussia Dortmund any chance at all. on the other way round, checking at how Borussia Dortmund were able to make their way to the final stages they might still do incredible things that will marvel everyone so let us not also belittle them but however Real Madrid would not want to miss this golden opportunity after all they have done it severally.
The performance of both clubs looked very tense. Real Madrid could hardly create a goal opportunity for more than 80 minutes, while Bayern Munich took the lead with 1 goal in the 68th minute, making all Real Madrid fans feel anxious if Real Madrid lost in that match. but who would have thought that Carlo Ancelotti took the right steps, he put Juselu in at the last minute, with a span of 9 minutes, he was able to score 2 goals, he became the hero of Real Madrid's victory this time, thanks to him, now Real Madrid can reach the final, Carlo Ancelotti can always provide the right strategy in taking quite difficult steps, Joselu can be relied on as a substitute if Real Madrid experiences difficulties.
Many people making Real Madrid the favorite to win the Champions League title. Real Madrid's victory this time proves that Real Madrid is still a very influential club in the Champions League. Bayern Munich has tried its best to beat Real Madrid. The appearance of the Bayern Munich goalkeeper also appeared extraordinary, he protected Bayern's goal. Munich was very good even though Real Madrid had taken a lot of shots but still it didn't mean anything because in the end Real Madrid was able to break through that very strong defense in a short period of time. Real Madrid was very happy because they came back in the final again.
Yes, your statement is correct. Real Madrid is a regular in the Champions League final. By advancing to the final to face Dortmund, this will be the 18th top match for Madrid. Moreover, if they are able to bring home the trophy this season, it will be the 15th title in the club's history. Real Madrid's dominance in Europe will be increasingly difficult for any club to compete with.Many people making Real Madrid the favorite to win the Champions League title. Real Madrid's victory this time proves that Real Madrid is still a very influential club in the Champions League. Bayern Munich has tried its best to beat Real Madrid. The appearance of the Bayern Munich goalkeeper also appeared extraordinary, he protected Bayern's goal. Munich was very good even though Real Madrid had taken a lot of shots but still it didn't mean anything because in the end Real Madrid was able to break through that very strong defense in a short period of time. Real Madrid was very happy because they came back in the final again.
I cannot deny that Real Madrid is the only European team to have won 14 Champions League titles in the history of the competition. Real Madrid have also dominated the Champions League title in the last 10 seasons and they have 5 titles in that time, in fact this season they have a big chance of getting their 6th since 2014.
So far, no other team in Europe has been able to win the same number of titles as Real Madrid. Which is one of the reasons why many people flock to become Real Madrid fans compared to others. I obviously like the La Liga team's style of play even though I am a fan of tiki taka or short passing game strategies, so I know who is the favorite to win the title this season.
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The match isn’t going to be an easy one, but I will say a higher percentage of people believe Real Madrid will win the match. If I am honest with you, I am among the people who think Real Madrid are going to win the Champions League. I am not underestimating Dortmund or saying their performance isn’t good, but I just have the feeling that Real Madrid will win the Champions League. I am more satisfied with Real Madrid pattern of play compared to Dortmund. We can’t just conclude yet who will win the match till it’s being played, but the match is going to be a difficult one for both Dortmund and Real Madrid.Real Madrid have a lot of final experience, they are the kings of the Champions League title, but who will guarantee that they win it this season?
Even if Real Madrid's chances are very high, the risk of defeat is still there and it should not be ignored. It is not always possible for Real Madrid to maintain its finals record by winning the title, it is possible to see Real Madrid succumb to other teams from a probability point of view.
This is going to be the final of the Champions League competition. Let’s be honest everyone is expecting that Real Madrid is going to beat Dortmund pretty easily in the final of the Champions League.
The match isn’t going to be an easy one, but I will say a higher percentage of people believe Real Madrid will win the match. If I am honest with you, I am among the people who think Real Madrid are going to win the Champions League. I am not underestimating Dortmund or saying their performance isn’t good, but I just have the feeling that Real Madrid will win the Champions League. I am more satisfied with Real Madrid pattern of play compared to Dortmund. We can’t just conclude yet who will win the match till it’s being played, but the match is going to be a difficult one for both Dortmund and Real Madrid. 
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Something is meant to be believed based on signs and the performance of a team, but to be sincere, I have never put it in mind that Dortmund will make it to the final, where they are now. and still, I have a higher belief in Real Madrid than Dortmund when it comes to who will go home with the trophy, so don't even bother much because, based on my belief, I don't think Dortmund will make it and win the trophy, even though they have a concrete defense. I know they will still lose it to the final, and what people need to understand is that Real Madrid are not PSG. If Dortmund made it against PSG, that doesn't mean they will still have that on Real Madrid, so let's wait and witness the game. But no matter what, I will never think that Real Madrid will lose the trophy.I am very optimistic about Real Madrid's chances at final. Real Madrid have never lost in a Champions League final apart from the 1962, 1964, 1981 seasons, meaning they have won 14 titles from the 17 finals they have played in. Real Madrid will try hard to win their 15th title in the Champions League this season, they have a big chance and if they get it then big bonuses for all players and staff are worth giving.
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Yes, the end of the match was simply amazing, but there are still questions for the referee, despite the fact that he added so much extra time that actually equals a whole in overtime, he made a mistake that put Real into the final and gave Bayern no chance. We're talking about offside, which as it turned out in the aftermath was wrongly determined, but he didn't even bother to review the moment. I'm a bit annoyed that Real's referee often decides everything, and I don't think I'm the only one who gets annoyed by it.The referee should not be able to ignore the rules in making decisions regarding Offside and the line referee does not need to rush to raise the flag as a sign of offside because if it is considered that the incident is still unclear, there will be VAR which can help the referee make a fair decision without harming any party. This incident reminds me of when Real Madrid beat Barcelona in El Clasico some time ago when the referee did not review Var on the goal scored by Lamine Yamal, but whatever happened on the pitch the result of the match could not be changed and Real Madrid managed to qualify for the final.
Unfortunately yes, no one reviewed and it is obvious that after the match the result and especially the goal will not be reviewed, what is done is done. But I wouldn't be surprised if a similar situation happens in the final, the referees are very often on RM's side, let's see what happens, I will support Borussia one way or another
You are right. I just remembered that Bellingham originally came from Dortmund from 2020 until last season. And yes, this will be a match that will bring Bellingham together with his former colleagues on the field. but this time Bellingham will be the opponent for all his former colleagues at Dortmund. This will be very interesting. But when Belllingham was at Dortmund he was not very productive. But after joining Real Madrid, Bellingham became very productive. At Dortmund he only scored 12 goals in 3 seasons. But at Real Madrid Bellingham has scored more than 20 goals if I remember correctly.
I see that there are a lot of Madrid players who will definitely face their former team in the UCL, but indeed every Madrid player's mentality is in place to be a player with a steel mentality and not get carried away by their feelings when facing their former team, Madrid is a team that will definitely be UCL champions this season, their chances are very big and that cannot be denied.
The chances of victory are greater for Real Madrid because they have experience, good squad strength both in the domestic league and the big league, they are much more consistent from the matches they have played this season, some analysts are more doubtful about Dortmund because they are not so experienced in the Champion league and they are not consistent in the Bundes league, of course this is one of the parameters that can be assessed, besides that, the popularity of Real Madrid is much greater than Dortmund, so there must be more who make it the favorite team, as well as Real Madrid players have many popular players, not the same as Dortmund players, so it is very reasonable to consider Dortmund a team that is still Under Dog.
When you are doing something you are used to doing everyday and you encountered a difficulty at one stage, what helps must of the time is your past experience and that's what Real Madrid has, so many of the players that were present in that semi final has experience semi final many times, Modric has literally been in most of the title Real Madrid has won and some new players are just determined to win. I look at the story of Joselu how he came to support Real Madrid in 2022 when he wasn't there yet in the club and see the incredible come back he gave Real Madrid against Bayern Munich.
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By analysis and feeling I am also more inclined to Real Madrid to win the champions league trophy this season, to hell with all the possibilities that Dortmund has a chance to show itself in the final later, if they can beat Real Madrid, it will be a Dortmund boom to become one of the popular players this season.
Real Madrid can beat Dortmund hands down but there is this rumors going about Lunin going to be change with Cortois. I don't if this is true or rumor or perhaps Anceloti is trying to confused Cortois with them, I don't know but I think I prefer Lunin continue what he has started since the team has been winning all this while, he should take the credit for the golden glove.
You are right. I just remembered that Bellingham originally came from Dortmund from 2020 until last season. And yes, this will be a match that will bring Bellingham together with his former colleagues on the field. but this time Bellingham will be the opponent for all his former colleagues at Dortmund. This will be very interesting. But when Belllingham was at Dortmund he was not very productive. But after joining Real Madrid, Bellingham became very productive. At Dortmund he only scored 12 goals in 3 seasons. But at Real Madrid Bellingham has scored more than 20 goals if I remember correctly.
I see that there are a lot of Madrid players who will definitely face their former team in the UCL, but indeed every Madrid player's mentality is in place to be a player with a steel mentality and not get carried away by their feelings when facing their former team, Madrid is a team that will definitely be UCL champions this season, their chances are very big and that cannot be denied.
After Real Madrid qualified to the champions league final,and they heard it's Dortmund they will be facing ,I know they will be very happy, because they will think they can just over ride Dortmund and win them without stress,but if they should have this kind of mentality,then they must be joking because Dortmund is more dangerous than PSG and Bayern.Dortmund have a very solid defence,and their defence is even more solid than that of Madrid's own,this will be an advantage to Dortmund. Because they have the ability to defend a goal till the game ends,While Madrid's defence is not that solid.
Yes indeed, it seems that Dortmund is able to utilize or maximize counterattacks to defeat Real Madrid in the final match later. Indeed, at least I also admit that Real Madrid has a good defense too but anyway, the fact is that Real Madrid can still concede in previous matches. Therefore, it seems that Dortmund will be able to maximize counterattacks to beat Real Madrid, because everything is still possible. After all, at first Dortmund were also not predicted to be able to qualify for the final match, but in fact Dortmund managed to qualify for the final match and maybe, Dortmund will still make a big surprise also in the final match later, who knows.
Something is meant to be believed based on signs and the performance of a team, but to be sincere, I have never put it in mind that Dortmund will make it to the final, where they are now. and still, I have a higher belief in Real Madrid than Dortmund when it comes to who will go home with the trophy, so don't even bother much because, based on my belief, I don't think Dortmund will make it and win the trophy, even though they have a concrete defense. I know they will still lose it to the final, and what people need to understand is that Real Madrid are not PSG. If Dortmund made it against PSG, that doesn't mean they will still have that on Real Madrid, so let's wait and witness the game. But no matter what, I will never think that Real Madrid will lose the trophy.
Real Madrid seems to be the best team this year, but things may change in the final match. Both teams have a high chance in the Champions League final. Even though there is a difference between the strengths of the teams, we can see every result with the match atmosphere.
Of course, statistically speaking, Real Madrid is much stronger and the probability of winning is much higher. It is necessary to look at the betting odds and make a good evaluation, the result of the match may end as we predicted
Unpredictable with Dortmund success reach to Champion League final in this season and had very good performance since phase round until semifinal round. Most of opponent team kicked out by Dortmund are favorite team since quarter final round against Atletico Madrid until semifinal phase eliminated the favorite team PSG. I doubt with opportunity will Real Madrid become the another favorite team will beat by Dortmund in Champion League final match? Of course, statistically speaking, Real Madrid is much stronger and the probability of winning is much higher. It is necessary to look at the betting odds and make a good evaluation, the result of the match may end as we predicted
Currently, Madrid had impressive performance and become most ever team made come back on crucial matches left few minutes before end, Madrid in this season won all matches against Bundesliga teams since phase round until semifinal round. Its make easily for Madrid beating Dortmund in the final match and won their 15 of UEFA Champion League tittles?
Yes indeed, it seems that Dortmund is able to utilize or maximize counterattacks to defeat Real Madrid in the final match later. Indeed, at least I also admit that Real Madrid has a good defense too but anyway, the fact is that Real Madrid can still concede in previous matches. Therefore, it seems that Dortmund will be able to maximize counterattacks to beat Real Madrid, because everything is still possible. After all, at first Dortmund were also not predicted to be able to qualify for the final match, but in fact Dortmund managed to qualify for the final match and maybe, Dortmund will still make a big surprise also in the final match later, who knows.
I agree that Borussia Dortmund is a strong team and they did their best in UCL compared to their performance and results in Bundesliga this season, after what we have witnessed against PSG who could beat Barcelona and did a great comeback, they failed to break Dortmund defensive lines. However, Real Madrid is always strong when it comes to breaking and scoring against teams who plays in defense more, also has a good defense themselves to prevent counter attacks, which means that the white house has more chances in the finals if Dortmund couldn’t find another gameplay in my opinion.
After Real Madrid qualified to the champions league final,and they heard it's Dortmund they will be facing ,I know they will be very happy, because they will think they can just over ride Dortmund and win them without stress,but if they should have this kind of mentality,then they must be joking because Dortmund is more dangerous than PSG and Bayern.Dortmund have a very solid defence,and their defence is even more solid than that of Madrid's own,this will be an advantage to Dortmund. Because they have the ability to defend a goal till the game ends,While Madrid's defence is not that solid.
Yes indeed, it seems that Dortmund is able to utilize or maximize counterattacks to defeat Real Madrid in the final match later. Indeed, at least I also admit that Real Madrid has a good defense too but anyway, the fact is that Real Madrid can still concede in previous matches. Therefore, it seems that Dortmund will be able to maximize counterattacks to beat Real Madrid, because everything is still possible. After all, at first Dortmund were also not predicted to be able to qualify for the final match, but in fact Dortmund managed to qualify for the final match and maybe, Dortmund will still make a big surprise also in the final match later, who knows.
Fair to give Real Madrid 60% odds and Dortmund 40% odds? Guys what the hell are you thinking? WHY only this little gap between this two teams? Is a non sense.
In the best case scenario for Borussia Adortmund i can give them 20% odds and im being really in their favour.
All this without taking into account what we know about Real Madrid in Champions League
In the best case scenario for Borussia Adortmund i can give them 20% odds and im being really in their favour.
All this without taking into account what we know about Real Madrid in Champions League
I will keep this conversation brief, I don't even need to look at the options and whatever the bookmakers have to say or what percentage they give whoever they want.
Real Madrid has already gone ahead to print jersey 15 for everybody already in the Real Madrid squad, that is already a confidence level from another dimension. We don't need to be told that Real Madrid will be winners, we also don't need the much deliberation.
I'm already predicting who will be winning the next super cup finals between Real Madrid and Bayern Leverkusen.
Kylian Mbappe did announced his plans to finally leave and as well thanked coaches who has helped him into the player he currently is, he has an elite and killer mentality, I wonder the transformation he'll get if he is the number one source of goals for Josep Pep Guardiola. Real Madrid I know cannot wait to have him with the rest of the club.
One more thing to say is not to discourage Harry Kane but keep going hard, in my head I don't need no one to tell me that, Bayern Munich failed Harry Kane even in one of his best seasons for the club.
After Real Madrid qualified to the champions league final,and they heard it's Dortmund they will be facing ,I know they will be very happy, because they will think they can just over ride Dortmund and win them without stress,but if they should have this kind of mentality,then they must be joking because Dortmund is more dangerous than PSG and Bayern.Dortmund have a very solid defence,and their defence is even more solid than that of Madrid's own,this will be an advantage to Dortmund. Because they have the ability to defend a goal till the game ends,While Madrid's defence is not that solid.
Fair to give Real Madrid 60% odds and Dortmund 40% odds? Guys what the hell are you thinking? WHY only this little gap between this two teams? Is a non sense.
In the best case scenario for Borussia Adortmund i can give them 20% odds and im being really in their favour.
All this without taking into account what we know about Real Madrid in Champions League
In the best case scenario for Borussia Adortmund i can give them 20% odds and im being really in their favour.
All this without taking into account what we know about Real Madrid in Champions League
Real Madrid seems to be the best team this year, but things may change in the final match. Both teams have a high chance in the Champions League final. Even though there is a difference between the strengths of the teams, we can see every result with the match atmosphere.
Of course, statistically speaking, Real Madrid is much stronger and the probability of winning is much higher. It is necessary to look at the betting odds and make a good evaluation, the result of the match may end as we predicted
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