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Quote from: Adams0001 on July 25, 2024, 06:13:45 PM

Everyone believes that Real Madrid will win the Champions League and La Liga because Mbappe is coming, but I am confident it will be difficult for any club to upset Real Madrid, but they will undoubtedly find a club that will face Madrid and win. Real Madrid has the most experience in the Champions League competition, with 15 UCL trophies.

Real Madrid is the most winners in UCL, it is not surprising if everyone favors Real Madrid as the candidate of UCL winner again for the next season. Moreover, Real Madrid can sign a top striker and a real machine goal, Mbappe. People will assume Real Madrid to be easier to win UCL next season because they have an additional power in attacking line. Even Real Madrid has no strong striker last season, they still could win UCL. With Mbappe, their chance to win UCL again this season should be higher.

Quote from: Adams0001 on July 25, 2024, 06:13:45 PM

Manchester City is the only club attempting to bring Real Madrid down and win the title. If not for penalty shootouts, Manchester City has the potential to defeat Madrid, Manchester City played well against Real Madrid, but Madrid's defense forced them to a penalty shootout. It will be interesting to see if Madrid can win back-to-back UCL titles under Ancelotti, who will undoubtedly do his best.

I think it is not only Man City that can defeat Real Madrid. In the few seasons ago, other teams also can defeat Real Madrid although it wasn't an easy match. Barcelona is one of the team that often defeated Real Madrid. Even if they are in bad financial condition, it is not impossible that they can defeat Real Madrid in UCL. Barcelona knows well Real Madrid, Real Madrid can't underestimate them although Real Madrid squad looks so strong.

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Quote from: lizarder on July 25, 2024, 02:01:22 PM

Compared to Arsenal and Barcelona, I prefer Bayern Munich because even though they don't have an experienced coach, their mentality and experience have been tested enough. Leverkusen is not at that level because they are not a seeded team even though they played quite consistently last season. The Champions League is different and there are many clubs that might be favored but ultimately fail to advance to the next round.

Next season will also be very different in the Champions League because it is possible that your favorite team will not be able to advance to a fairly crucial round next season, although Bayern Munich players still have a better mentality when playing in the Champions League. But as long as there is Real Madrid and also several teams whose strengths can be quite balanced, it will always be more difficult to place a certain team to become champions and also to be able to advance to more rounds in the Champions League next season.

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Quote from: baeva on July 25, 2024, 05:54:45 PM

It's an obvious choice for them, they are truly a royal club, the most titled club in the history of the Champions League, of course they will focus on this tournament, moreover now they have a new star player in the team on whom everyone has high hopes, so I think in the next few years they will win at least once. But the fact is that with the conditions they have now, they could easily win La Liga.

Madrid is the best team in the UCL ever and the fact that they have Mbappe now means that they would want to try and win it again this year since the UCL is one of the biggest trophies that Mbappe is yet to win even though he fought very hard to win it during his time at PSG. Despite this fact, I still maintain my stance that Madrid might not win the UCL despite everyone's predictions. Mbappe's lack of UCL reminds me of Harry Kane's lack of a trophy Tongue

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Quote from: Nheer on July 25, 2024, 06:00:17 PM

Quote from: bastisisca on July 25, 2024, 01:14:06 PM

I think you're honestly wrong, in my opinion Real Madrid gives more importance to the Champions League, in fact the season in which Barcelona won (two years ago) they actually abandoned La Liga to focus on the Champions League. I don't know about Manchester City, but for Real Madrid the priority is the Champions League.

Sometimes it’s difficult to predict what will happen but i don’t think Barca will have a chance in winning the La Liga this season with the differences in quality between their signings and that of Madrid but we never can tell.

Anything pertaining La Liga right now will most likely be Championed by the current formidable Madrid team, The present Barcelona team no longer has the kind of players that matches the level of current Real Madrid team, And I believe that Madrid will be dominating for a least another couple of seasons and until Barcelona is able to fix up its team or we could eventually have another team win La Liga trophy base on how Madrid has been able to make its squad get stronger in the last couple of seasons, and this isn’t a different case this season.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on July 25, 2024, 02:19:05 PM

Quote from: hahay on July 25, 2024, 01:25:57 PM

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So yes, I personally believe that Real Madrid always has a very good chance of getting the trophy every season because after all, Real Madrid really has an advantage in all aspects compared to other teams. But even though I believe that, at least I also still recognize that failure can still occur, because every competition will certainly have a team that wins and a team that loses.

Real Madrid is the favorite to win in La Liga and the Champions League so it's not strange if people think Real Madrid is focused on the UCL. As far as I know there is no team that is thinking about focusing on the UCL and ignoring the competition in the League. Usually every top team will target to win the League and UCL. Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL but it seems unlikely that they will ignore the domestic competition. Real Madrid can get both and almost every season can get one of them. They have a solid squad. I think even this season they have a better squad than the previous season.

Everyone believes that Real Madrid will win the Champions League and La Liga because Mbappe is coming, but I am confident it will be difficult for any club to upset Real Madrid, but they will undoubtedly find a club that will face Madrid and win. Real Madrid has the most experience in the Champions League competition, with 15 UCL trophies. Manchester City is the only club attempting to bring Real Madrid down and win the title. If not for penalty shootouts, Manchester City has the potential to defeat Madrid, Manchester City played well against Real Madrid, but Madrid's defense forced them to a penalty shootout. It will be interesting to see if Madrid can win back-to-back UCL titles under Ancelotti, who will undoubtedly do his best. Because Manchester City is playing Real Madrid very well, but Madrid plays a defensive game that forces them to a penalty shootout. Let's see how next season goes and if Madrid can go back to back in the UCL since Zinedine does. Ancelotti will do his best to win the title.

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 25, 2024, 01:14:06 PM

I think you're honestly wrong, in my opinion Real Madrid gives more importance to the Champions League, in fact the season in which Barcelona won (two years ago) they actually abandoned La Liga to focus on the Champions League. I don't know about Manchester City, but for Real Madrid the priority is the Champions League.

The Champions League is their league so even if they are not focused winning the champions league shouldn’t be much of a problem for them but they are not a team to lose focus especially not under Ancellotti who has won almost every trophy with them now. I don’t think Madrid will prioritize the Champions League over any other competition, they will want to win everything all, anything they can get their hands on.

Sometimes it’s difficult to predict what will happen but i don’t think Barca will have a chance in winning the La Liga this season with the differences in quality between their signings and that of Madrid but we never can tell.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on July 25, 2024, 02:19:05 PM

Real Madrid is the favorite to win in La Liga and the Champions League so it's not strange if people think Real Madrid is focused on the UCL. As far as I know there is no team that is thinking about focusing on the UCL and ignoring the competition in the League. Usually every top team will target to win the League and UCL. Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL but it seems unlikely that they will ignore the domestic competition. Real Madrid can get both and almost every season can get one of them. They have a solid squad. I think even this season they have a better squad than the previous season.

This your conclusion about Real Madrid’s squad depth to be better than that of the previous season can be as a result of Mbappe that joined them for next season. They are showing a great squad to us all there and I don’t expect nothing but the less. Even so, other teams can also prove themself worthy of their squad when they meet each other head to head. Every team always fights for the best and fighting for two trophies or more should be the aim of every club, so they should not be left out in the trophy race if they lose one of them along the season. Real Madrid is a team that has never won treble before so wining more than two trophies or fighting for two or more trophies at a time will be something worth trying.

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Manchester City and Real Madrid always give a lot of importance to their domestic league and Champions League but we don't see that in case of Arsenal. Arsenal may take the English Premier League tournament very seriously but they are not too interested in the Champions League tournament. If they had given more importance to the Champions League tournament, their performances in the Champions League would not have been so bad on a regular basis, while in the English Premier League they are rightly second in the points table. Real Madrid and Manchester City are as much expected in the Champions League as we are in Arsenal, so Arsenal should prepare for the Champions League and prepare accordingly.

Real Madrid will certainly be ahead of the rest of the teams next season with the way the teams have been so far and Manchester City could do well there as well but Arsenal have yet to change their squad so it wouldn't be a surprise if their performance is similar to last season.

I think you're honestly wrong, in my opinion Real Madrid gives more importance to the Champions League, in fact the season in which Barcelona won (two years ago) they actually abandoned La Liga to focus on the Champions League. I don't know about Manchester City, but for Real Madrid the priority is the Champions League.

It's an obvious choice for them, they are truly a royal club, the most titled club in the history of the Champions League, of course they will focus on this tournament, moreover now they have a new star player in the team on whom everyone has high hopes, so I think in the next few years they will win at least once. But the fact is that with the conditions they have now, they could easily win La Liga.

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Quote from: entertheabyss on July 25, 2024, 03:37:51 PM

Barcelona are no longer considered top competitor for the UCL because they've failed entirely to bounce back to their feet in major tournaments. They can't prove themselves worthy enough to face the top elite clubs. While Real Madrid have focus and priorities to meet every season. Los Blancos have everything to worry about and winning becomes very compulsory for them. Carlo Ancelotti is here to make sure they achieve the ultimate goals which is been set out for them. The UEFA Champions League have been their main priority every single time.

Barcelona is still very much Worthy to face top elite teams and still pose a threat to them, I know you would want to make reference to all that they have got as a challenge to tackle in recent times but then look at their performance so far, they have been struggling but still managed to get decent finish and positions so they aren't so terrible that we wouldn't be able to have something to really write home about them but then let's take another look at the fact that if they face top elite teams, they are going to win if given the chances so taking them for granted may literally just be the worst thing we may be doing at rhia time.

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Quote from: RockBell on July 25, 2024, 02:52:19 PM

Real Madrid will always pay attention to any competition, but it is true that they pay more attention to the Champions League because, when you think about it, the Champions League is one of the biggest leagues that people pay a lot of attention to. Winning the Champions League means you are not an ordinary club because if clubs from different leagues compete and you win out of all those clubs, it means you have level. Before this season they allowed Barcelona to win the la Liga and even when they focused on the champions league they still did not win but last season they were able to win the two at the same time this shows how good Real Madrid can be, Manchester city also put a lot of seriousness into winning, instead of Real Madrid fighting with Barcelona Manchester City have now occupied that position.

Champions League have turned to a big league that’s why every clubs want to feel the test of winning the champions league which is why even last season Real Madrid is more concentrated on champions than others league, but with their much effort they still win the la Liga league they have much up and opportunities that’s why they able to win the two league, even some peoples was saying that Barcelona is going to over the Real Madrid because they see them pay attention on the champions, they think that they can not make the la liga and they prove their strong performance and dominate the two league which is a big record for them. Manchester City also try to put their seriousness due their inconsistent it doesn’t happen, if not they might win the league but unfortunately not possible.

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Quote from: HajiBagi on July 25, 2024, 05:05:46 AM

I believe Real Madrid than any other team when it comes to champion league and I believe they can still win the champion League this season, Real Madrid without Mbape could still win the champion League and now that Mbape has joined the team what are we expecting from them, we can’t expect Real Madrid to lose or without getting to champion league final round for the champions league, Real Madrid will be a nightmare for every team in the champion league this coming season because no any team that will want to face Real Madrid, although I know we are talking about football and anything can happen but when a team has a good squad the team is expected to be strong and play very well.

Last season that Real Madrid won the champions, there was no Mbappe, so even in the coming season without Mbappe, they can do it. However, I can’t confidently give Real Madrid a chance of winning the champions league next season, but they are enough to be the champions of the league, there is no doubt, but for the fact that Manchester City is still in this race, I can’t say anything yet. I will wait and see how the season goes first. Though I can see that you believe and put high hope on Real Madrid, even before the season starts, I can’t say is bad, but we need to see how their chances of getting go first before judging.

Quote from: naira on July 25, 2024, 08:22:21 AM

I want to include 5 clubs that are favored to win the UCL trophy next season: Man City, Madrid, Liverpool, Arsenal and Barcelona. Meanwhile, Bayern Munich has not been able to confirm the squad that will be overhauled so it is still too early for Kompany to win the UCL trophy. Leverkusen certainly has many people who have made this club a new favorite, with an impressive one season performance but personally I still don't expect much from Xabi Alonso first season in the UCL and PSG after Mbappe departure this club's goal collection will drop drastically and have an impact on performance team as a whole so there is no guarantee that PSG can advance further, even the semifinals will be too difficult.

If I were, I would include Bayern Munich in my list rather than Barcelona. I don’t know what you see in Barcelona and exclude Bayern Munich. Until now, Bayern Munich is better than Barcelona in the Champions League. Last season, Bayern Munich did better than Barcelona in the Champions League. This is not the Bundesliga. Even though they changed their coach, I’m still expecting Kompany to do much better than the Barcelona squad because, even with that, Bayern Munich players have better chances of performance than the Barcelona squad.

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 25, 2024, 01:14:06 PM

Quote from: Lidger on July 24, 2024, 01:34:45 PM

Manchester City and Real Madrid always give a lot of importance to their domestic league and Champions League but we don't see that in case of Arsenal. Arsenal may take the English Premier League tournament very seriously but they are not too interested in the Champions League tournament. If they had given more importance to the Champions League tournament, their performances in the Champions League would not have been so bad on a regular basis, while in the English Premier League they are rightly second in the points table. Real Madrid and Manchester City are as much expected in the Champions League as we are in Arsenal, so Arsenal should prepare for the Champions League and prepare accordingly.

Real Madrid will certainly be ahead of the rest of the teams next season with the way the teams have been so far and Manchester City could do well there as well but Arsenal have yet to change their squad so it wouldn't be a surprise if their performance is similar to last season.

I think you're honestly wrong, in my opinion Real Madrid gives more importance to the Champions League, in fact the season in which Barcelona won (two years ago) they actually abandoned La Liga to focus on the Champions League. I don't know about Manchester City, but for Real Madrid the priority is the Champions League.

I'm curious, how do you imagine this? “Oh, there’s a La Liga game today, but we won’t stress because the Champions League is more important”? Real is equally fighting for the two main titles of the season - La Liga and the Champions League. Sometimes (like that season) the randomness is such that in one tournament the results are significantly better than in another, and by the way, this impression that season was also due to the fact that Barcelona had an incredible (in terms of efficiency) season.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on July 25, 2024, 02:19:05 PM

Real Madrid is the favorite to win in La Liga and the Champions League so it's not strange if people think Real Madrid is focused on the UCL. As far as I know there is no team that is thinking about focusing on the UCL and ignoring the competition in the League. Usually every top team will target to win the League and UCL. Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL but it seems unlikely that they will ignore the domestic competition. Real Madrid can get both and almost every season can get one of them. They have a solid squad. I think even this season they have a better squad than the previous season.

Yes, exactly. A team as big as Real Madrid cannot possibly only chase one trophy, of course all the competitions they participate in must be won. In fact, I see Real Madrid with the squad they have now, especially after Mbappe's arrival, they are very ambitious about winning the treble winner for the first time. because so far Real Madrid has never succeeded in winning the Trible Winner despite winning the UCL league trophy in a row.

Mbappe's presence at Real Madrid certainly has a big influence on the team, especially since he came to Real Madrid for no other reason than to win lots of trophies. I think Mbappe's ambitions are the same as Ronaldo's ambitions when he was at Real Madrid, apart from wanting to chase lots of trophies he also wants to chase individual records. So I predict Real Madrid will win a lot of trophies this season.

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 25, 2024, 01:14:06 PM

I think you're honestly wrong, in my opinion Real Madrid gives more importance to the Champions League, in fact the season in which Barcelona won (two years ago) they actually abandoned La Liga to focus on the Champions League. I don't know about Manchester City, but for Real Madrid the priority is the Champions League.

Champions league have been the most loved league by all team and any team that gets to participate in them will strive ti make it far because of the plenty benefits that comes with playing them and bonuses from one stage to another in the competition. A lot of teams will prioritize the champions league ahead of all other competitions they’ll be playing in but that is not the case for some teams that knows they can’t go far even if they try. It’s a choice and every team differs on how they see it, as for Real Madrid, I think they value the champions league more that the La Liga.

Quote from: lizarder on July 25, 2024, 02:01:22 PM

PSG cannot be underestimated even though Mbappe is no longer playing there because PSG's game next season will be much more solid because they don't have to think about one person. Luis Enrique is one of the coaches who has the ability to bring PSG to play better and I'm sure they will be much better than last season.

So PSG have always been depending on Mbappe all this years? Now that he has left they’ll have to ride on their own and I don’t think they’ll have a hard time to get on themselves and let it go. PSG is not a weak team and with the quality of players they have now, they can as well be champions and go far in the competition. Luis Enrique is a trusted coach and I’m sure he won’t fail the team this season again.

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I was actually thinking of adding APOEL and Qarabag also but changed my mind later on. I wish I did though as total odds were going to be much better.

Anyway it is a good start to the season and I hope to maintain it. If I don't lose my balance until the 2nd leg games, I can try my luck once again. Dynamo Kyiv were really great by the way.

When they got 1-0 behind first, I must admit I got a little nervous. But that comeback was a huge one. The Fenerbahçe game made me worried for real though. They had issues with keeping a score advantage but thankfully they won in the end.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on July 25, 2024, 02:19:05 PM

Real Madrid is the favorite to win in La Liga and the Champions League so it's not strange if people think Real Madrid is focused on the UCL. As far as I know there is no team that is thinking about focusing on the UCL and ignoring the competition in the League. Usually every top team will target to win the League and UCL. Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL but it seems unlikely that they will ignore the domestic competition. Real Madrid can get both and almost every season can get one of them. They have a solid squad. I think even this season they have a better squad than the previous season.

Hanadawa, no one denies that Real Madrid are the favorites to win La Liga and the Champions League because the composition of players that Real Madrid has is getting stronger after the arrival of Kylan Mbappe. If in the 2024-2025 season there are other teams that are included in the candidates for the Champions League, don't argue.
In terms of statistical figures, we can say that Real Madrid are great and deserve to be favorites, but from other calculations that do not include numbers, Real Madrid can be thwarted as the favorite team.

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 25, 2024, 01:14:06 PM

I think you're honestly wrong, in my opinion Real Madrid gives more importance to the Champions League, in fact the season in which Barcelona won (two years ago) they actually abandoned La Liga to focus on the Champions League. I don't know about Manchester City, but for Real Madrid the priority is the Champions League.

Barcelona are no longer considered top competitor for the UCL because they've failed entirely to bounce back to their feet in major tournaments. They can't prove themselves worthy enough to face the top elite clubs. While Real Madrid have focus and priorities to meet every season. Los Blancos have everything to worry about and winning becomes very compulsory for them. Carlo Ancelotti is here to make sure they achieve the ultimate goals which is been set out for them. The UEFA Champions League have been their main priority every single time.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on July 25, 2024, 02:19:05 PM

Quote from: hahay on July 25, 2024, 01:25:57 PM

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So yes, I personally believe that Real Madrid always has a very good chance of getting the trophy every season because after all, Real Madrid really has an advantage in all aspects compared to other teams. But even though I believe that, at least I also still recognize that failure can still occur, because every competition will certainly have a team that wins and a team that loses.

Real Madrid is the favorite to win in La Liga and the Champions League so it's not strange if people think Real Madrid is focused on the UCL. As far as I know there is no team that is thinking about focusing on the UCL and ignoring the competition in the League. Usually every top team will target to win the League and UCL. Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL but it seems unlikely that they will ignore the domestic competition. Real Madrid can get both and almost every season can get one of them. They have a solid squad. I think even this season they have a better squad than the previous season.

It is understandable and quite reasonable why Madrid are favored as champion candidates next season, Ancelotti squad has not undergone many changes. Toni Kroos, Nacho Fernandes, Joselu, Rafa Marin left for reasons we already know, then Mbappe and Endrick came in. Therefore, I think Madrid will be sharper and more aggressive in terms of strength after these slight changes. Indeed, losing players of the caliber of Kroos and Nacho could affect the stability of their performance if not resolved properly.

Apart from that, if we talk about the priority scale, a club of Madrid caliber certainly targets success in every competition. The reason is very easy to understand too, achieving success will automatically bring profits, so that in the end Madrid can maintain its status as one of Europe elite clubs. Meanwhile, regarding the challenges that Madrid will face in the Champions League, perhaps Man City is the only club out of all the contestants that is ready to become a direct challenger, of course I do not mean to underestimate other teams.

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Quote from: bastisisca on July 25, 2024, 01:14:06 PM

I think you're honestly wrong, in my opinion Real Madrid gives more importance to the Champions League, in fact the season in which Barcelona won (two years ago) they actually abandoned La Liga to focus on the Champions League. I don't know about Manchester City, but for Real Madrid the priority is the Champions League.

Real Madrid will always pay attention to any competition, but it is true that they pay more attention to the Champions League because, when you think about it, the Champions League is one of the biggest leagues that people pay a lot of attention to. Winning the Champions League means you are not an ordinary club because if clubs from different leagues compete and you win out of all those clubs, it means you have level. Before this season they allowed Barcelona to win the la Liga and even when they focused on the champions league they still did not win but last season they were able to win the two at the same time this shows how good Real Madrid can be, Manchester city also put a lot of seriousness into winning, instead of Real Madrid fighting with Barcelona Manchester City have now occupied that position.

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Quote from: hahay on July 25, 2024, 01:25:57 PM

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So yes, I personally believe that Real Madrid always has a very good chance of getting the trophy every season because after all, Real Madrid really has an advantage in all aspects compared to other teams. But even though I believe that, at least I also still recognize that failure can still occur, because every competition will certainly have a team that wins and a team that loses.

Real Madrid is the favorite to win in La Liga and the Champions League so it's not strange if people think Real Madrid is focused on the UCL. As far as I know there is no team that is thinking about focusing on the UCL and ignoring the competition in the League. Usually every top team will target to win the League and UCL. Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL but it seems unlikely that they will ignore the domestic competition. Real Madrid can get both and almost every season can get one of them. They have a solid squad. I think even this season they have a better squad than the previous season.

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