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November 15, 2024, 03:22:21 PM
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I wouldn't be too certain about what you have just said. Real Madrid is not a club that usually loses several games just like the one against Barcelona. They often times show a strong reaction, which doesn't necessarily mean that they will win their next game guaranteed, but I don't think that Liverpool will beat them 4-0 or so. There is going to be far more resistance because whenever Real Madrid loses like that, their level of awareness in the following games rises sharply to the point that they do at least know how to not get destroyed once again. Liverpool is in great shape, but I don't think they will be pushing for a 3rd and a 4th goal if they take the lead. It's probably more about ball control and solid defense then.
I'm not saying Liverpool will beat Real Madrid exactly with a score of 4-0 like when Real Madrid lost in El Clasico, but I'm just considering that Liverpool could win even if Real Madrid is the favourite. However, this time Liverpool are the favorites based on the odds, so you definitely know which one you should choose if you want to bet.

Liverpool are in good form so far, while Real Madrid is unstable. Real Madrid dropped a lot of points in the Champions League so far and I don't think they will easily win against Liverpool. If I had to choose, then I would have to choose not to bet on this match and just watch it. That's because I doubt that either one will win.
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November 15, 2024, 03:16:09 PM
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I also have the same fear on that match but funny enough some gamblers will tell you that those are the best matches to bet on than the ones with very small odds however from this 3.5 odds they gave real Madrid don't be surprised that gamblers who would go for that match will choose real Madrid over Liverpool even if they have a higher odd because changes can happen at anytime and who knows if real Madrid will come up because it only takes a moment to see another shape on a club, meanwhile for those who have a weak mind should avoid that match.
Consider the odds offered as the same trap as the previous El Clasico match where Real Madrid, the favorite, It was actually Barcelona who won the match. At that time Barcelona was completely underrated based on the odds, but anyone who bet on Barcelona actually secured a big win. The Liverpool vs Real Madrid match is probably no different, but personally one can never guarantee that because this is football. I only consider such odds as a trap, which is probably safe if just betting for fun.

Considering that this match takes place at the end of the month, I think some changes can still be expected including changes to the odds for both teams. Real Madrid actually deserves to be the favorite based on the depth of their squad, but considering their unstable performance plus it is an away match, Liverpool is the favorite with doubt.

I wouldn't be too certain about what you have just said. Real Madrid is not a club that usually loses several games just like the one against Barcelona. They often times show a strong reaction, which doesn't necessarily mean that they will win their next game guaranteed, but I don't think that Liverpool will beat them 4-0 or so. There is going to be far more resistance because whenever Real Madrid loses like that, their level of awareness in the following games rises sharply to the point that they do at least know how to not get destroyed once again. Liverpool is in great shape, but I don't think they will be pushing for a 3rd and a 4th goal if they take the lead. It's probably more about ball control and solid defense then.
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November 15, 2024, 03:11:36 PM
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I also have the same fear on that match but funny enough some gamblers will tell you that those are the best matches to bet on than the ones with very small odds however from this 3.5 odds they gave real Madrid don't be surprised that gamblers who would go for that match will choose real Madrid over Liverpool even if they have a higher odd because changes can happen at anytime and who knows if real Madrid will come up because it only takes a moment to see another shape on a club, meanwhile for those who have a weak mind should avoid that match.
Consider the odds offered as the same trap as the previous El Clasico match where Real Madrid, the favorite, It was actually Barcelona who won the match. At that time Barcelona was completely underrated based on the odds, but anyone who bet on Barcelona actually secured a big win. The Liverpool vs Real Madrid match is probably no different, but personally one can never guarantee that because this is football. I only consider such odds as a trap, which is probably safe if just betting for fun.

Considering that this match takes place at the end of the month, I think some changes can still be expected including changes to the odds for both teams. Real Madrid actually deserves to be the favorite based on the depth of their squad, but considering their unstable performance plus it is an away match, Liverpool is the favorite with doubt.
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November 15, 2024, 02:55:29 PM
surely Manchester City is one of the favorite teams to win the title since it is a stable and strong team
Furthermore Pep Guardiola is a young and modern coach. all his techniques are extremely useful and cutting edge
I see Manchester City as the only one who can win this year

I doubt this Pep Guardiola's ageing squad would be able to lift up this current champions league competition,  asides that, they have inconsistent kdb and also the Ballon d'Or winner Rodri who's currently injured until next season. I thought the return of Ilkay Gundogan would have helped matters but they're still subpar lately. Talks of winning Fenyoord when they're yet to win Tottenham cracks me up. Can we just take the season gradually? City are not even favorites for the premier league and you lots be talking bout the champions league?  Smiley

It's surprising I guess, when he said Manchester City is the only team that will win the trophy this season? Wow, maybe he is a big fan of Manchester City, so he can be so sure Manchester City will be able to win in the Champion League. Even though in reality, Manchester City have just received consecutive defeats but he is still full of confidence for Manchester City to get the trophy. Because at least, in the Premier League we still have Liverpool who still manage to be consistent with good results, as well as in the Champions League. And also,  teams from other leagues are also quite impressive so far and thus, it is not right if you say Manchester City is the only candidate team to win the Champions League trophy, because there are still other teams that also have  good performance this season.
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November 15, 2024, 02:53:02 PM


Even though Liverpool's odds is 2.02 compared to Real Madrid 3.50, I will not carry them over Real Madrid. Liverpool has been in a good run of form both in the Premier League and the Champions League this season compared to Real Madrid’s form in the LaLiga and Champions league this season too, statistically Madrid has produced more wins than Liverpool in their past encounters. The match will be tough and Madrid might find it difficult but I believe Real Madrid will have a slim victory by 1-0.

I also have the same fear on that match but funny enough some gamblers will tell you that those are the best matches to bet on than the ones with very small odds however from this 3.5 odds they gave real Madrid don't be surprised that gamblers who would go for that match will choose real Madrid over Liverpool even if they have a higher odd because changes can happen at anytime and who knows if real Madrid will come up because it only takes a moment to see another shape on a club, meanwhile for those who have a weak mind should avoid that match.
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November 15, 2024, 02:44:38 PM
Manchester City still have four players who are still recovering from injuries and that will certainly still make Manchester City uncomfortable in winning the match even though Manchester City will be playing at home and will face Feyenoord as their visitors in the next match in this season's Champions League. However, I would also place Manchester City as the favourites to win the match and if that does not happen, Manchester City will be in a fairly crucial position in the Champions League table so a draw is at least necessary for Manchester City to avoid putting themselves in a worse position in the standings.
Feyenoord is not a very tough opponent and even though Man City lost four players due to injury, I am very sure they can beat Feyenoord. I also don't see any possibility of the match ending in a draw because in terms of strength Man City is much better and has a greater chance of winning the match.

Man City is much more likely to win the match because the opponent they are facing is not that strong. I am optimistic that Man City will win the match easily and they will score two more goals in the match.
Yes, that's right. Feyenoord is indeed not a tough opponent because in terms of player quality they are also inferior to Man City, especially since this match will be played at Man City's home ground. However, don't underestimate Feyenoord because Feyenoord could take advantage of Man City's unstable performance to steal points at Man City's home ground.

What I know, Man City's recent slump, they even experienced four consecutive defeats because they underestimated their opponents and added to that, many of Man City's core players were injured, especially the most vital one was Rodri's injury because he was the soul of Man City's midfield all this time.

So if Feyenoord manages to exploit this weakness, it is not impossible that Man City will extend their losing streak. What I want to say is that even though Man City is superior in all aspects, anything can happen in football, including Feyenoord beating Man City in front of their own supporters.
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November 15, 2024, 02:19:29 PM
Liverpool's performance this season seems to be better than Real Madrid's, so Real Madrid's defeat in that encounter seems to be a consideration that cannot be ignored. Real Madrid has been inconsistent in its form, while Liverpool has improved under the tutelage of its new coach. But because Ancelotti is an experienced coach, I think he has a good solution to improve the team's performance and Real Madrid is expected to be able to qualify for the round of 16 without having to go to the playoffs.

But no matter how optimistic people are about Real Madrid, what is certain is that things could still be different. Real Madrid has had many players injured so far, while several key players have failed to find their best form this season. Bellingham is starting to improve because he has found his first goal of the season, while Mbappe is uncertain.



The only reason to actually doubt Real Madrid is because they have many injured players. Ok, Google if they did not have any injured players I think we could easily say that Real Madrid has a better chance to win the match. Because we all know how good Real Madrid is when it comes to performing in the Champions League matches. As a lot of players in the Real Madrid squad are actually injured, and Liverpool is spending one of the best times that they have in recent times, I think there are enough reasons to doubt that Real Madrid is not going to win the match, keep in mind their best scorer C.Rolando is not with them now. A win for Liverpool is expected in this case. That is something we similarly especially when the opponent is Real Madrid.

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November 15, 2024, 01:35:09 PM
Liverpool current condition is certainly very supportive to get 3 points from Real Madrid. But personally I will not underestimate Madrid because we have to remember in the past when Liverpool was favored but it backfired which ended in defeat with an aggregate of 6-2. At least with the new format Liverpool did not play Leg 1 and 2. Real Madrid game is unstable and this is the right time for Arne Slot to design a strategy to beat Ancelotti.

Liverpool is doing very good this season and they are in a better condition to be able to win the  premier league and that is one of the reasons that will give them full access to be able to win Madrid also in their next game because Madrid are busy struggling and they won't be able to win the number one in the premier league, if it was the Madrid thay we know last season and other seasons then it would been a difficult game for them to be able to win Madrid the highest that can happen is that they will draw the match either 0:0 or they will drag it with goals but as for this game Liverpool have the leverage of winning and no matter what Madrid want to do this game will not favour them because they already have a poor background in their domestic league so it will be another great challenge for them to be able to win most of there games.
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November 15, 2024, 01:19:42 PM
Liverpool current condition is certainly very supportive to get 3 points from Real Madrid. But personally I will not underestimate Madrid because we have to remember in the past when Liverpool was favored but it backfired which ended in defeat with an aggregate of 6-2. At least with the new format Liverpool did not play Leg 1 and 2. Real Madrid game is unstable and this is the right time for Arne Slot to design a strategy to beat Ancelotti.

Right, they are in a very positive trend and at the same time this match is played at Anfield, but we will not rule out that Liverpool has a less than good record when meeting Madrid in the Champions League. based on H2H from the last 8 meetings, Liverpool have always struggled to beat Real Madrid both away and at home. so, this match will clearly be very important for Liverpool and The Red fans. at least, Arne Slot remains focused on his plan and winning the match can also add a strong impetus to be more confident for the team in playing every match in various competitions. so, this match will still be a crucial match even though Liverpool is in a safe position in the group stage standings. in the preliminary round of the new format Champions League, Real Madrid is arguably the only very tough opponent even though there are still other matches. I see the betting exchange for this match, Liverpool is slightly more favored by the bookies. it's natural, even though based on H2H Liverpool always has difficulties. however, Madrid is currently in a condition that is not so good. Although Madrid still has the probability to secure full points, the impact of injured players will greatly affect Carlo Ancelotti's team. On the other hand, Madrid needs full points to secure their position and sweep the rest of their matches with a win. However, Don Carlo inevitably relies on the players available to replace injured players. The rest, the team mentality and individual quality of the players will be more prominent in every Madrid match. Well, it's interesting and worth following the matches in this competition.
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November 15, 2024, 12:18:31 PM

I doubt this Pep Guardiola's ageing squad would be able to lift up this current champions league competition,  asides that, they have inconsistent kdb and also the Ballon d'Or winner Rodri who's currently injured until next season. I thought the return of Ilkay Gundogan would have helped matters but they're still subpar lately. Talks of winning Fenyoord when they're yet to win Tottenham cracks me up. Can we just take the season gradually? City are not even favorites for the premier league and you lots be talking bout the champions league?  Smiley
City are still playing in the Champions League, which means they have a chance to win again, and I don't think it will be a problem for them to get to the playoffs, and by the time that happens, a lot can change. Yes, they are not in the best of times now, but everything can change, and not only for City or Real, who currently have injured players, but also for Liverpool, who now seem to be doing great. City have also gone through difficult times in previous seasons, so we shouldn't write them off yet.
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November 15, 2024, 12:12:28 PM
surely Manchester City is one of the favorite teams to win the title since it is a stable and strong team
Furthermore Pep Guardiola is a young and modern coach. all his techniques are extremely useful and cutting edge
I see Manchester City as the only one who can win this year

I doubt this Pep Guardiola's ageing squad would be able to lift up this current champions league competition,  asides that, they have inconsistent kdb and also the Ballon d'Or winner Rodri who's currently injured until next season. I thought the return of Ilkay Gundogan would have helped matters but they're still subpar lately. Talks of winning Fenyoord when they're yet to win Tottenham cracks me up. Can we just take the season gradually? City are not even favorites for the premier league and you lots be talking bout the champions league?  Smiley
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November 15, 2024, 11:55:25 AM
Manchester City still have four players who are still recovering from injuries and that will certainly still make Manchester City uncomfortable in winning the match even though Manchester City will be playing at home and will face Feyenoord as their visitors in the next match in this season's Champions League. However, I would also place Manchester City as the favourites to win the match and if that does not happen, Manchester City will be in a fairly crucial position in the Champions League table so a draw is at least necessary for Manchester City to avoid putting themselves in a worse position in the standings.

surely Manchester City is one of the favorite teams to win the title since it is a stable and strong team
Furthermore Pep Guardiola is a young and modern coach. all his techniques are extremely useful and cutting edge
I see Manchester City as the only one who can win this year
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November 15, 2024, 11:50:48 AM
It is clear that Liverpool are favourites in the upcoming game, but this does not mean that they will try to take the full three points. They have practically guaranteed themselves a place in the top 8, why should they strain themselves/risk if a draw suits them just fine? There is no difference between 1st or 3rd-4th-5th place. In parallel, every point in the Premier League is worth all the gold, I think that they are focusing primarily on the Premier League now.
You may not see the need for the strain for three points but for Liverpool it doesn't just end at the three points and staying at the top of the table but setting a record is also part of it all , so they can possibly decide to strain to get the complete three points and have a Fri feet at the top of the table while they also attempt pitching a record with the new UCL format. except the the premier league gets placed above the UCL for Liverpool then we could anticilatsßv
Liverpool current condition is certainly very supportive to get 3 points from Real Madrid. But personally I will not underestimate Madrid because we have to remember in the past when Liverpool was favored but it backfired which ended in defeat with an aggregate of 6-2. At least with the new format Liverpool did not play Leg 1 and 2. Real Madrid game is unstable and this is the right time for Arne Slot to design a strategy to beat Ancelotti.

Liverpool have been doing well since the season began, because after Klopp's departure and the arrival of a new coach, he has been performing well and winning games in the league and the Champions League. Real Madrid are good, and even when they play poorly in the league, they usually do well in the Champions League. This does not mean that because Liverpool is in good shape this season, they will have opportunities to defeat Real Madrid in the UCL as well. But with how madrid are today and having many players who are hurt, Liverpool can have the chance and defeat madrid, but he won't be so easy to win madrid in the ucl, because they have already lost two matches in the ucl and they will try to win the remaining matches so that they can get the opportunity to qualifying to next round.

Ancelotti knows how to play large clubs in the UEFA Champions League, and I am confident that even if Liverpool defeats Madrid, he will not win by more than one goal, and they will most likely draw. Liverpool are at the top of the league table, and even UCL they are better shape, and they will strive to keep their records intact. Let's see how the game ends after the international break, because the game will be tough.
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November 15, 2024, 11:26:39 AM


Real Madrid's current performance is not pleasing to their fans. Real fans are not getting the results they expected from Real. But Real Madrid never let their fans down in the end. Although they are somewhat consistent in the Lila Liga, they are not performing well in the Champions League.

In the 2024-25 season of the Champions League, Real Madrid has played a total of four matches so far, winning two and losing two matches, with 6 points and occupying the 18th position in the points table. Of course, this position does not suit Real Madrid, which highlights their failure.

I am not worried about them yet, because this is not the first time I have seen such a performance from them. They have performed like this in the past and here too they are proving that they are capable of a comeback win.
Their next Champions League match can be another match for them to drop points because winning Liverpool will not be easy as you may think, and despite their Champions League experience, I think it is time to accept the fact that Madrid team of this season is not enough to compete in this Champions League because they lack squad depth which is why small injuries is affecting their performance.

The matches Real Madrid lose in the Champions League were against Lille and AC Milan which normally they are not supposed to lose the matches, this means that their performance is not up to standard because these two teams are not capable of winning Real Madrid in their normal form.

However, Liverpool will be another tough match for Real Madrid followed by Atalanta, I think it’s high time for Madrid to wake up and add more players to their squad in the January transfer window or promote some players from their academy to help the team to achieve success.
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November 15, 2024, 11:21:33 AM
Liverpool current condition is certainly very supportive to get 3 points from Real Madrid. But personally I will not underestimate Madrid because we have to remember in the past when Liverpool was favored but it backfired which ended in defeat with an aggregate of 6-2. At least with the new format Liverpool did not play Leg 1 and 2. Real Madrid game is unstable and this is the right time for Arne Slot to design a strategy to beat Ancelotti.
And actually, Real Madrid hasn't lost to Liverpool for quite a long time. And conversely, it has been a long time since Liverpool last managed to beat Real Madrid. So Liverpool currently has a good opportunity to break their record of always losing to Real Madrid in many seasons. I don't even remember when Liverpool won.

But I still agree that we cannot underestimate a strong club like Real Madrid. Because even in the worst conditions, Real Madrid could surprise us by still beating Liverpool. But I noticed that most of us are now starting to prefer Liverpool as favorites for the upcoming match. Because the reasons are understandable. Namely Liverpool is the most solid this season. This is different from Real Madrid, which actually looks unstable throughout this season, especially in the UCL. So I understand why there won't be many people betting on Real Madrid this time.
The two teams has met several times in recent seasons,  like you say so far Madrid has still been able to maintain their winning record over Liverpool when they meet in the Champions League, but I think the head to head of the two teams so far certainly cannot be a reference for us to favorite Madrid in the match, indeed we cannot predict the exact result in a match but I think we also must to think realistically if we look at the condition of the two teams today, So far Liverpool has a consistent performance with the support of a sharp attacking line and also a solid defense, while Madrid, who have been superior to Liverpool, are not in their best form this season after their unstable attack and defense, so in this case, I personally tend to favor Liverpool in the match but in betting of course BTTS will be an alternative for me in the match.

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November 15, 2024, 11:10:39 AM
In my opinion, Real Madrid is not a team that is easily intimidated by opponents, even from the Liverpool team that is on fire. We know how Real Madrid is in the Champions League, how they have risen in the Champions League so don't underestimate Real Madrid even though they are currently unstable.


Real Madrid's current performance is not pleasing to their fans. Real fans are not getting the results they expected from Real. But Real Madrid never let their fans down in the end. Although they are somewhat consistent in the Lila Liga, they are not performing well in the Champions League.

In the 2024-25 season of the Champions League, Real Madrid has played a total of four matches so far, winning two and losing two matches, with 6 points and occupying the 18th position in the points table. Of course, this position does not suit Real Madrid, which highlights their failure.

I am not worried about them yet, because this is not the first time I have seen such a performance from them. They have performed like this in the past and here too they are proving that they are capable of a comeback win.
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November 15, 2024, 10:10:32 AM
Liverpool current condition is certainly very supportive to get 3 points from Real Madrid. But personally I will not underestimate Madrid because we have to remember in the past when Liverpool was favored but it backfired which ended in defeat with an aggregate of 6-2. At least with the new format Liverpool did not play Leg 1 and 2. Real Madrid game is unstable and this is the right time for Arne Slot to design a strategy to beat Ancelotti.
Yep, Liverpool is really lucky that's a new format, so they can take advantage of playing at home to intimidate Real Madrid in order for them to win the match. However, if not for the present condition of Real Madrid, I don't think that any club can intimidate them away from home, but Real Madrid needs to prepare seriously for this match, if they don't want that to happen. This is because Liverpool is in a consistent state, and have the quality to win at home.

It's easy to see why he said Liverpool would take all three points from Real Madrid. This season, Real Madrid did not have a good start. Los Blancos are lacking stability. This is a golden opportunity to assert their dominance over Real Madrid, a club that has long regarded Liverpool as underdogs.

Hey 'Arne Slot', Dani Carvajal's injury has exposed a major weakness on the right flank. This is his chance to exploit it. Liverpool should play By playing at pace and pressing aggressively, Liverpool can weaken Real's defense. Mohamed Salah will be the key. I believe Arne Slot can do it.
About Los Blancos. To maintain their hopes of making the top eight, Real Madrid needs to get points against Liverpool.Coach Ancelotti is having difficulty in the right-back position. I think Ancelotti was forced to push Valverde down to this position, due to the lack of viable options on the bench.
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November 15, 2024, 09:44:16 AM
Liverpool current condition is certainly very supportive to get 3 points from Real Madrid. But personally I will not underestimate Madrid because we have to remember in the past when Liverpool was favored but it backfired which ended in defeat with an aggregate of 6-2. At least with the new format Liverpool did not play Leg 1 and 2. Real Madrid game is unstable and this is the right time for Arne Slot to design a strategy to beat Ancelotti.
Yep, Liverpool is really lucky that's a new format, so they can take advantage of playing at home to intimidate Real Madrid in order for them to win the match. However, if not for the present condition of Real Madrid, I don't think that any club can intimidate them away from home, but Real Madrid needs to prepare seriously for this match, if they don't want that to happen. This is because Liverpool is in a consistent state, and have the quality to win at home.
In my opinion, Real Madrid is not a team that is easily intimidated by opponents, even from the Liverpool team that is on fire. We know how Real Madrid is in the Champions League, how they have risen in the Champions League so don't underestimate Real Madrid even though they are currently unstable.

I remember a few seasons ago they were also underestimated in the UCL league, but they managed to beat PSG, Man City, and Chelsea, which at that time in all those matches Real Madrid managed to make a Comeback also like last season. Real Madrid when making mistakes that make them slump does not mean they are silent with their slump but they will immediately rise.

So I think Real Madrid's rise begins when they visit Liverpool's headquarters, especially since Thibaut Courtois is rumored to be returning and starting against Leganes after the international break which means he can be played again against Liverpool.
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November 15, 2024, 09:06:02 AM
Manchester City still have four players who are still recovering from injuries and that will certainly still make Manchester City uncomfortable in winning the match even though Manchester City will be playing at home and will face Feyenoord as their visitors in the next match in this season's Champions League. However, I would also place Manchester City as the favourites to win the match and if that does not happen, Manchester City will be in a fairly crucial position in the Champions League table so a draw is at least necessary for Manchester City to avoid putting themselves in a worse position in the standings.
Feyenoord is not a very tough opponent and even though Man City lost four players due to injury, I am very sure they can beat Feyenoord. I also don't see any possibility of the match ending in a draw because in terms of strength Man City is much better and has a greater chance of winning the match.

Man City is much more likely to win the match because the opponent they are facing is not that strong. I am optimistic that Man City will win the match easily and they will score two more goals in the match.
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November 15, 2024, 08:52:47 AM
Liverpool current condition is certainly very supportive to get 3 points from Real Madrid. But personally I will not underestimate Madrid because we have to remember in the past when Liverpool was favored but it backfired which ended in defeat with an aggregate of 6-2. At least with the new format Liverpool did not play Leg 1 and 2. Real Madrid game is unstable and this is the right time for Arne Slot to design a strategy to beat Ancelotti.
And actually, Real Madrid hasn't lost to Liverpool for quite a long time. And conversely, it has been a long time since Liverpool last managed to beat Real Madrid. So Liverpool currently has a good opportunity to break their record of always losing to Real Madrid in many seasons. I don't even remember when Liverpool won.

But I still agree that we cannot underestimate a strong club like Real Madrid. Because even in the worst conditions, Real Madrid could surprise us by still beating Liverpool. But I noticed that most of us are now starting to prefer Liverpool as favorites for the upcoming match. Because the reasons are understandable. Namely Liverpool is the most solid this season. This is different from Real Madrid, which actually looks unstable throughout this season, especially in the UCL. So I understand why there won't be many people betting on Real Madrid this time.
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